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Outatime 12-21-2006 09:34 PM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
Micah wrote:

> And since the general consensus is it's not my pilot bearing, I guess I
> ASS-UMED right.


I see no evidence to indicate that your TO bearing could not be
ultimately at fault.

ASS-UMING anything is never a good thing. I say a teardown is in order.

Simon Juncal 12-21-2006 10:53 PM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
Outatime wrote:
> Micah wrote:
>
>> And since the general consensus is it's not my pilot bearing, I guess I
>> ASS-UMED right.

>
> I see no evidence to indicate that your TO bearing could not be
> ultimately at fault.
>
> ASS-UMING anything is never a good thing. I say a teardown is in order.



You're both ASSUMING it's the transmission for no good reason.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Simon Juncal 12-21-2006 10:53 PM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
Outatime wrote:
> Micah wrote:
>
>> And since the general consensus is it's not my pilot bearing, I guess I
>> ASS-UMED right.

>
> I see no evidence to indicate that your TO bearing could not be
> ultimately at fault.
>
> ASS-UMING anything is never a good thing. I say a teardown is in order.



You're both ASSUMING it's the transmission for no good reason.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Simon Juncal 12-21-2006 10:53 PM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
Outatime wrote:
> Micah wrote:
>
>> And since the general consensus is it's not my pilot bearing, I guess I
>> ASS-UMED right.

>
> I see no evidence to indicate that your TO bearing could not be
> ultimately at fault.
>
> ASS-UMING anything is never a good thing. I say a teardown is in order.



You're both ASSUMING it's the transmission for no good reason.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Outatime 12-22-2006 07:53 AM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
Simon Juncal wrote:

> You're both ASSUMING it's the transmission for no good reason.


You have a point, Simon. It's as good a place as any to start I
suppose. Back in the good old days, we used a screwdriver or piece of
rubber hose up against a suspect part to find out exactly where a noise
was comming from. The ear doesn't work neary as well as it should for
this sort of work.

Outatime 12-22-2006 07:53 AM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
Simon Juncal wrote:

> You're both ASSUMING it's the transmission for no good reason.


You have a point, Simon. It's as good a place as any to start I
suppose. Back in the good old days, we used a screwdriver or piece of
rubber hose up against a suspect part to find out exactly where a noise
was comming from. The ear doesn't work neary as well as it should for
this sort of work.

Outatime 12-22-2006 07:53 AM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
Simon Juncal wrote:

> You're both ASSUMING it's the transmission for no good reason.


You have a point, Simon. It's as good a place as any to start I
suppose. Back in the good old days, we used a screwdriver or piece of
rubber hose up against a suspect part to find out exactly where a noise
was comming from. The ear doesn't work neary as well as it should for
this sort of work.

Mike Romain 12-22-2006 10:18 AM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
Outatime wrote:
>
> Micah wrote:
>
> > And since the general consensus is it's not my pilot bearing, I guess I
> > ASS-UMED right.

>
> I see no evidence to indicate that your TO bearing could not be
> ultimately at fault.
>
> ASS-UMING anything is never a good thing. I say a teardown is in order.


The pilot bearing 'cannot' be the problem because the noise exists with
the clutch pedal up which means the pilot bearing is 'not' in use at
that time.

The pilot bearing only spins when the clutch is depressed, otherwise it
is fixed solid to the clutch.

A bolt coming loose from the pressure plate after a clutch re+re is not
unusual at all though....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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Mike Romain 12-22-2006 10:18 AM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
Outatime wrote:
>
> Micah wrote:
>
> > And since the general consensus is it's not my pilot bearing, I guess I
> > ASS-UMED right.

>
> I see no evidence to indicate that your TO bearing could not be
> ultimately at fault.
>
> ASS-UMING anything is never a good thing. I say a teardown is in order.


The pilot bearing 'cannot' be the problem because the noise exists with
the clutch pedal up which means the pilot bearing is 'not' in use at
that time.

The pilot bearing only spins when the clutch is depressed, otherwise it
is fixed solid to the clutch.

A bolt coming loose from the pressure plate after a clutch re+re is not
unusual at all though....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 12-22-2006 10:18 AM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
Outatime wrote:
>
> Micah wrote:
>
> > And since the general consensus is it's not my pilot bearing, I guess I
> > ASS-UMED right.

>
> I see no evidence to indicate that your TO bearing could not be
> ultimately at fault.
>
> ASS-UMING anything is never a good thing. I say a teardown is in order.


The pilot bearing 'cannot' be the problem because the noise exists with
the clutch pedal up which means the pilot bearing is 'not' in use at
that time.

The pilot bearing only spins when the clutch is depressed, otherwise it
is fixed solid to the clutch.

A bolt coming loose from the pressure plate after a clutch re+re is not
unusual at all though....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


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