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Simon Juncal 12-21-2006 10:44 AM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
Why are you looking for trans problems? I've re-read your post and
nothing in it suggest the transmission is making a noise... what happens
when you start it out of gear without the clutch depressed? If it has
clutch start then disable it.

I would be looking at the starter, and the fan clutch and work my way in
from there.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Simon Juncal 12-21-2006 10:44 AM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
Why are you looking for trans problems? I've re-read your post and
nothing in it suggest the transmission is making a noise... what happens
when you start it out of gear without the clutch depressed? If it has
clutch start then disable it.

I would be looking at the starter, and the fan clutch and work my way in
from there.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Jon 12-21-2006 10:52 AM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
I'm siding with Simon, here -- you've absolutely ruled out the pilot
bearing by starting in neutral with clutch engaged. You'll absolutely
rule out the transmission if the noise occurs when starting in gear,
clutch disengaged.


Simon Juncal wrote:
> Why are you looking for trans problems? I've re-read your post and
> nothing in it suggest the transmission is making a noise... what happens
> when you start it out of gear without the clutch depressed? If it has
> clutch start then disable it.
>
> I would be looking at the starter, and the fan clutch and work my way in
> from there.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein



Jon 12-21-2006 10:52 AM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
I'm siding with Simon, here -- you've absolutely ruled out the pilot
bearing by starting in neutral with clutch engaged. You'll absolutely
rule out the transmission if the noise occurs when starting in gear,
clutch disengaged.


Simon Juncal wrote:
> Why are you looking for trans problems? I've re-read your post and
> nothing in it suggest the transmission is making a noise... what happens
> when you start it out of gear without the clutch depressed? If it has
> clutch start then disable it.
>
> I would be looking at the starter, and the fan clutch and work my way in
> from there.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein



Jon 12-21-2006 10:52 AM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
I'm siding with Simon, here -- you've absolutely ruled out the pilot
bearing by starting in neutral with clutch engaged. You'll absolutely
rule out the transmission if the noise occurs when starting in gear,
clutch disengaged.


Simon Juncal wrote:
> Why are you looking for trans problems? I've re-read your post and
> nothing in it suggest the transmission is making a noise... what happens
> when you start it out of gear without the clutch depressed? If it has
> clutch start then disable it.
>
> I would be looking at the starter, and the fan clutch and work my way in
> from there.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein



Will Honea 12-21-2006 04:24 PM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
With that BA10, you really should do one more step: tc in neutral,
transmission in various gears. There are some strange interference
possibilities in the BA10 if the thrust spacing is buggered. That should
pretty well eliminate the transmission.

BTW, the BA10 - AX15 swap is NOT a drop-in swap! Do a little research
before you start it. All sorts of bits and pieces get involved, some
being real PITA stuff - like the transfer case input shaft and the pilot
bearing.

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 07:52:53 -0800, Jon wrote:

> I'm siding with Simon, here -- you've absolutely ruled out the pilot
> bearing by starting in neutral with clutch engaged. You'll absolutely
> rule out the transmission if the noise occurs when starting in gear,
> clutch disengaged.
>
>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
>> Why are you looking for trans problems? I've re-read your post and
>> nothing in it suggest the transmission is making a noise... what happens
>> when you start it out of gear without the clutch depressed? If it has
>> clutch start then disable it.
>>
>> I would be looking at the starter, and the fan clutch and work my way in
>> from there.
>>
>> --
>> Simon
>> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein




--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

Will Honea 12-21-2006 04:24 PM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
With that BA10, you really should do one more step: tc in neutral,
transmission in various gears. There are some strange interference
possibilities in the BA10 if the thrust spacing is buggered. That should
pretty well eliminate the transmission.

BTW, the BA10 - AX15 swap is NOT a drop-in swap! Do a little research
before you start it. All sorts of bits and pieces get involved, some
being real PITA stuff - like the transfer case input shaft and the pilot
bearing.

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 07:52:53 -0800, Jon wrote:

> I'm siding with Simon, here -- you've absolutely ruled out the pilot
> bearing by starting in neutral with clutch engaged. You'll absolutely
> rule out the transmission if the noise occurs when starting in gear,
> clutch disengaged.
>
>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
>> Why are you looking for trans problems? I've re-read your post and
>> nothing in it suggest the transmission is making a noise... what happens
>> when you start it out of gear without the clutch depressed? If it has
>> clutch start then disable it.
>>
>> I would be looking at the starter, and the fan clutch and work my way in
>> from there.
>>
>> --
>> Simon
>> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein




--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

Will Honea 12-21-2006 04:24 PM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
With that BA10, you really should do one more step: tc in neutral,
transmission in various gears. There are some strange interference
possibilities in the BA10 if the thrust spacing is buggered. That should
pretty well eliminate the transmission.

BTW, the BA10 - AX15 swap is NOT a drop-in swap! Do a little research
before you start it. All sorts of bits and pieces get involved, some
being real PITA stuff - like the transfer case input shaft and the pilot
bearing.

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 07:52:53 -0800, Jon wrote:

> I'm siding with Simon, here -- you've absolutely ruled out the pilot
> bearing by starting in neutral with clutch engaged. You'll absolutely
> rule out the transmission if the noise occurs when starting in gear,
> clutch disengaged.
>
>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
>> Why are you looking for trans problems? I've re-read your post and
>> nothing in it suggest the transmission is making a noise... what happens
>> when you start it out of gear without the clutch depressed? If it has
>> clutch start then disable it.
>>
>> I would be looking at the starter, and the fan clutch and work my way in
>> from there.
>>
>> --
>> Simon
>> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein




--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

Outatime 12-21-2006 09:34 PM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
Micah wrote:

> And since the general consensus is it's not my pilot bearing, I guess I
> ASS-UMED right.


I see no evidence to indicate that your TO bearing could not be
ultimately at fault.

ASS-UMING anything is never a good thing. I say a teardown is in order.

Outatime 12-21-2006 09:34 PM

Re: Loud grinding on start-up
 
Micah wrote:

> And since the general consensus is it's not my pilot bearing, I guess I
> ASS-UMED right.


I see no evidence to indicate that your TO bearing could not be
ultimately at fault.

ASS-UMING anything is never a good thing. I say a teardown is in order.


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