Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
 

On Jul 11, 1:53 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> "Jon" <jongodd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1184180864.627591.94160@g4g2000hsf.googlegrou ps.com...
>
> > On Jul 10, 8:39 pm, Dean <JuanSig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well, you know the Chrysler-derived Wrangler automatic -- the GC unit
> > is from the same family of transmissions. I don't see the same
> > failure rates with Wranglers as with heavier OD vehicles, but I'm not
> > a fan of the transmission --
>
> I don't know much about the Grands, even though I had a '93, but is this
> accurate? The XJ's AX4 automatic is known to be a pretty reliable
> transmission, and it seems to me it would have made more sense since they
> already had an OD unit in the lineup they would have used it instead of
> reengineering a Wrangler 3-speed.


Hi Matt,

I was picking up the conversation from his TJ perspective -- so,
before that point: Chrysler steps in, and puts their transmission
into Jeeps -- why pay someone else? Jeeps get the 3 speed version
because the aformentioned OD "add-on" makes for a ridiculously long
transmission.

Don't quote all the digits, but this is my understanding: A-727 > 727
w/lockup > A-518 (4sp) > 4xRH > 4xRE .....A-518 might be the old name
for 4xRH

But don't take my word for it: http://www.jeeptech.com/trans/

And [oops] I do see that early 1993 4.0 GCs have the Aisin unit.

Jon

Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
 

On Jul 11, 1:53 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> "Jon" <jongodd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1184180864.627591.94160@g4g2000hsf.googlegrou ps.com...
>
> > On Jul 10, 8:39 pm, Dean <JuanSig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well, you know the Chrysler-derived Wrangler automatic -- the GC unit
> > is from the same family of transmissions. I don't see the same
> > failure rates with Wranglers as with heavier OD vehicles, but I'm not
> > a fan of the transmission --
>
> I don't know much about the Grands, even though I had a '93, but is this
> accurate? The XJ's AX4 automatic is known to be a pretty reliable
> transmission, and it seems to me it would have made more sense since they
> already had an OD unit in the lineup they would have used it instead of
> reengineering a Wrangler 3-speed.


Hi Matt,

I was picking up the conversation from his TJ perspective -- so,
before that point: Chrysler steps in, and puts their transmission
into Jeeps -- why pay someone else? Jeeps get the 3 speed version
because the aformentioned OD "add-on" makes for a ridiculously long
transmission.

Don't quote all the digits, but this is my understanding: A-727 > 727
w/lockup > A-518 (4sp) > 4xRH > 4xRE .....A-518 might be the old name
for 4xRH

But don't take my word for it: http://www.jeeptech.com/trans/

And [oops] I do see that early 1993 4.0 GCs have the Aisin unit.

Jon

Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
 

On Jul 11, 1:53 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> "Jon" <jongodd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1184180864.627591.94160@g4g2000hsf.googlegrou ps.com...
>
> > On Jul 10, 8:39 pm, Dean <JuanSig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well, you know the Chrysler-derived Wrangler automatic -- the GC unit
> > is from the same family of transmissions. I don't see the same
> > failure rates with Wranglers as with heavier OD vehicles, but I'm not
> > a fan of the transmission --
>
> I don't know much about the Grands, even though I had a '93, but is this
> accurate? The XJ's AX4 automatic is known to be a pretty reliable
> transmission, and it seems to me it would have made more sense since they
> already had an OD unit in the lineup they would have used it instead of
> reengineering a Wrangler 3-speed.


Hi Matt,

I was picking up the conversation from his TJ perspective -- so,
before that point: Chrysler steps in, and puts their transmission
into Jeeps -- why pay someone else? Jeeps get the 3 speed version
because the aformentioned OD "add-on" makes for a ridiculously long
transmission.

Don't quote all the digits, but this is my understanding: A-727 > 727
w/lockup > A-518 (4sp) > 4xRH > 4xRE .....A-518 might be the old name
for 4xRH

But don't take my word for it: http://www.jeeptech.com/trans/

And [oops] I do see that early 1993 4.0 GCs have the Aisin unit.

Jon

Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
 

On Jul 11, 2:16 pm, Jon <jongodd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 11, 1:53 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
> > "Jon" <jongodd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1184180864.627591.94160@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > > On Jul 10, 8:39 pm, Dean <JuanSig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Well, you know the Chrysler-derived Wrangler automatic -- the GC unit
> > > is from the same family of transmissions. I don't see the same
> > > failure rates with Wranglers as with heavier OD vehicles, but I'm not
> > > a fan of the transmission --
>
> > I don't know much about the Grands, even though I had a '93, but is this
> > accurate? The XJ's AX4 automatic is known to be a pretty reliable
> > transmission, and it seems to me it would have made more sense since they
> > already had an OD unit in the lineup they would have used it instead of
> > reengineering a Wrangler 3-speed.
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> I was picking up the conversation from his TJ perspective -- so,
> before that point: Chrysler steps in, and puts their transmission
> into Jeeps -- why pay someone else? Jeeps get the 3 speed version
> because the aformentioned OD "add-on" makes for a ridiculously long
> transmission.
>
> Don't quote all the digits, but this is my understanding: A-727 > 727
> w/lockup > A-518 (4sp) > 4xRH > 4xRE .....A-518 might be the old name
> for 4xRH
>
> But don't take my word for it: http://www.jeeptech.com/trans/
>
> And [oops] I do see that early 1993 4.0 GCs have the Aisin unit.
>
> Jon

ARR....replace "Jeeps" in previous post with "Wranglers". Old habits
die hard.

Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
 

On Jul 11, 2:16 pm, Jon <jongodd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 11, 1:53 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
> > "Jon" <jongodd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1184180864.627591.94160@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > > On Jul 10, 8:39 pm, Dean <JuanSig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Well, you know the Chrysler-derived Wrangler automatic -- the GC unit
> > > is from the same family of transmissions. I don't see the same
> > > failure rates with Wranglers as with heavier OD vehicles, but I'm not
> > > a fan of the transmission --
>
> > I don't know much about the Grands, even though I had a '93, but is this
> > accurate? The XJ's AX4 automatic is known to be a pretty reliable
> > transmission, and it seems to me it would have made more sense since they
> > already had an OD unit in the lineup they would have used it instead of
> > reengineering a Wrangler 3-speed.
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> I was picking up the conversation from his TJ perspective -- so,
> before that point: Chrysler steps in, and puts their transmission
> into Jeeps -- why pay someone else? Jeeps get the 3 speed version
> because the aformentioned OD "add-on" makes for a ridiculously long
> transmission.
>
> Don't quote all the digits, but this is my understanding: A-727 > 727
> w/lockup > A-518 (4sp) > 4xRH > 4xRE .....A-518 might be the old name
> for 4xRH
>
> But don't take my word for it: http://www.jeeptech.com/trans/
>
> And [oops] I do see that early 1993 4.0 GCs have the Aisin unit.
>
> Jon

ARR....replace "Jeeps" in previous post with "Wranglers". Old habits
die hard.

Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
 

On Jul 11, 2:16 pm, Jon <jongodd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 11, 1:53 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
> > "Jon" <jongodd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1184180864.627591.94160@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > > On Jul 10, 8:39 pm, Dean <JuanSig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Well, you know the Chrysler-derived Wrangler automatic -- the GC unit
> > > is from the same family of transmissions. I don't see the same
> > > failure rates with Wranglers as with heavier OD vehicles, but I'm not
> > > a fan of the transmission --
>
> > I don't know much about the Grands, even though I had a '93, but is this
> > accurate? The XJ's AX4 automatic is known to be a pretty reliable
> > transmission, and it seems to me it would have made more sense since they
> > already had an OD unit in the lineup they would have used it instead of
> > reengineering a Wrangler 3-speed.
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> I was picking up the conversation from his TJ perspective -- so,
> before that point: Chrysler steps in, and puts their transmission
> into Jeeps -- why pay someone else? Jeeps get the 3 speed version
> because the aformentioned OD "add-on" makes for a ridiculously long
> transmission.
>
> Don't quote all the digits, but this is my understanding: A-727 > 727
> w/lockup > A-518 (4sp) > 4xRH > 4xRE .....A-518 might be the old name
> for 4xRH
>
> But don't take my word for it: http://www.jeeptech.com/trans/
>
> And [oops] I do see that early 1993 4.0 GCs have the Aisin unit.
>
> Jon

ARR....replace "Jeeps" in previous post with "Wranglers". Old habits
die hard.

Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
 

On Jul 11, 2:16 pm, Jon <jongodd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 11, 1:53 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
> > "Jon" <jongodd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1184180864.627591.94160@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > > On Jul 10, 8:39 pm, Dean <JuanSig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Well, you know the Chrysler-derived Wrangler automatic -- the GC unit
> > > is from the same family of transmissions. I don't see the same
> > > failure rates with Wranglers as with heavier OD vehicles, but I'm not
> > > a fan of the transmission --
>
> > I don't know much about the Grands, even though I had a '93, but is this
> > accurate? The XJ's AX4 automatic is known to be a pretty reliable
> > transmission, and it seems to me it would have made more sense since they
> > already had an OD unit in the lineup they would have used it instead of
> > reengineering a Wrangler 3-speed.
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> I was picking up the conversation from his TJ perspective -- so,
> before that point: Chrysler steps in, and puts their transmission
> into Jeeps -- why pay someone else? Jeeps get the 3 speed version
> because the aformentioned OD "add-on" makes for a ridiculously long
> transmission.
>
> Don't quote all the digits, but this is my understanding: A-727 > 727
> w/lockup > A-518 (4sp) > 4xRH > 4xRE .....A-518 might be the old name
> for 4xRH
>
> But don't take my word for it: http://www.jeeptech.com/trans/
>
> And [oops] I do see that early 1993 4.0 GCs have the Aisin unit.
>
> Jon

ARR....replace "Jeeps" in previous post with "Wranglers". Old habits
die hard.

Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
 

"Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184188607.613487.83170@d55g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...

>
> Hi Matt,
>
> I was picking up the conversation from his TJ perspective -- so,
> before that point: Chrysler steps in, and puts their transmission
> into Jeeps -- why pay someone else? Jeeps get the 3 speed version
> because the aformentioned OD "add-on" makes for a ridiculously long
> transmission.

>
> Don't quote all the digits, but this is my understanding: A-727 > 727
> w/lockup > A-518 (4sp) > 4xRH > 4xRE .....A-518 might be the old name
> for 4xRH
>
> But don't take my word for it: http://www.jeeptech.com/trans/

Got it. FYI, TJ's started getting a OD transmission in the last few years,
2002 IIRC.

Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
 

"Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184188607.613487.83170@d55g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...

>
> Hi Matt,
>
> I was picking up the conversation from his TJ perspective -- so,
> before that point: Chrysler steps in, and puts their transmission
> into Jeeps -- why pay someone else? Jeeps get the 3 speed version
> because the aformentioned OD "add-on" makes for a ridiculously long
> transmission.

>
> Don't quote all the digits, but this is my understanding: A-727 > 727
> w/lockup > A-518 (4sp) > 4xRH > 4xRE .....A-518 might be the old name
> for 4xRH
>
> But don't take my word for it: http://www.jeeptech.com/trans/

Got it. FYI, TJ's started getting a OD transmission in the last few years,
2002 IIRC.

Re: Looking for a Grand Cherokee
 

"Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184188607.613487.83170@d55g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...

>
> Hi Matt,
>
> I was picking up the conversation from his TJ perspective -- so,
> before that point: Chrysler steps in, and puts their transmission
> into Jeeps -- why pay someone else? Jeeps get the 3 speed version
> because the aformentioned OD "add-on" makes for a ridiculously long
> transmission.

>
> Don't quote all the digits, but this is my understanding: A-727 > 727
> w/lockup > A-518 (4sp) > 4xRH > 4xRE .....A-518 might be the old name
> for 4xRH
>
> But don't take my word for it: http://www.jeeptech.com/trans/

Got it. FYI, TJ's started getting a OD transmission in the last few years,
2002 IIRC.