Re: Lets Talk Jacks
Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the high-lift only
when there is no other choice. On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:22 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote: >>Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the trail? >>Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he suggests >>that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift. >> >>I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool, but I >>think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it presents. I >>know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I needed >>to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and put >>it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it couldn't >>fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could not >>strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that >>day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most >>dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near by >>tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and use >>it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a >>bottle jack would not have done the trick. >> >> >> >> >> >>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message >>news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com. .. >>> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle >>jacks under >>> the passenger seat instead. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is >>stored >>> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job? >>> >> >>> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could >>> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have >>been >>> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message >>> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com... >>> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another >>brand >>> >>that >>> >>> >is a better choice? >>> >>> >>> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for >>changing >>> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and >>> >>extremely >>> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can >>kill >>> >>you. >>> >>> >>> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts >>> >>never >>> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged." >>> >>> >>> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the >>> >>Hi-Lift >>> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter >>whether >>> >>you >>> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version. >>> >>> >>> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your >>own >>> >>from a >>> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood. >>> >>> >>> >>> Robert Bills >>> >>> KG6LMV >>> >>> Orange County CA >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm >>> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com >>> |
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
> Totally worthless as a jack, but why not use a Come-A-Long rather than
> the high lift? I carry one of those, too, but these pine branches won't hold up the rig. -- Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
> Totally worthless as a jack, but why not use a Come-A-Long rather than
> the high lift? I carry one of those, too, but these pine branches won't hold up the rig. -- Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
> Totally worthless as a jack, but why not use a Come-A-Long rather than
> the high lift? I carry one of those, too, but these pine branches won't hold up the rig. -- Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
Me, too. Sometimes there is just no substitute for a high-lift.
-- Jim -- 98 TJ SE 90 SJ GW http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98 "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard enough..." "4x4" in caps is "$X$" "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message news:mkatrv8sc20jldlsrv8vqmcnd8vmvakevb@4ax.com... > Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the high-lift only > when there is no other choice. > > > > On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:22 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the trail? > >>Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he suggests > >>that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift. > >> > >>I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool, but I > >>think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it presents. I > >>know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I needed > >>to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and put > >>it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it couldn't > >>fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could not > >>strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that > >>day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most > >>dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near by > >>tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and use > >>it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a > >>bottle jack would not have done the trick. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message > >>news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com. .. > >>> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle > >>jacks under > >>> the passenger seat instead. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is > >>stored > >>> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job? > >>> >> > >>> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could > >>> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have > >>been > >>> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message > >>> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com... > >>> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another > >>brand > >>> >>that > >>> >>> >is a better choice? > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for > >>changing > >>> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and > >>> >>extremely > >>> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can > >>kill > >>> >>you. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts > >>> >>never > >>> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged." > >>> >>> > >>> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the > >>> >>Hi-Lift > >>> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter > >>whether > >>> >>you > >>> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your > >>own > >>> >>from a > >>> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Robert Bills > >>> >>> KG6LMV > >>> >>> Orange County CA > >>> >>> > >>> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm > >>> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com > >>> > |
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
Me, too. Sometimes there is just no substitute for a high-lift.
-- Jim -- 98 TJ SE 90 SJ GW http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98 "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard enough..." "4x4" in caps is "$X$" "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message news:mkatrv8sc20jldlsrv8vqmcnd8vmvakevb@4ax.com... > Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the high-lift only > when there is no other choice. > > > > On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:22 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the trail? > >>Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he suggests > >>that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift. > >> > >>I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool, but I > >>think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it presents. I > >>know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I needed > >>to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and put > >>it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it couldn't > >>fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could not > >>strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that > >>day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most > >>dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near by > >>tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and use > >>it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a > >>bottle jack would not have done the trick. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message > >>news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com. .. > >>> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle > >>jacks under > >>> the passenger seat instead. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is > >>stored > >>> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job? > >>> >> > >>> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could > >>> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have > >>been > >>> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message > >>> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com... > >>> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another > >>brand > >>> >>that > >>> >>> >is a better choice? > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for > >>changing > >>> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and > >>> >>extremely > >>> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can > >>kill > >>> >>you. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts > >>> >>never > >>> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged." > >>> >>> > >>> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the > >>> >>Hi-Lift > >>> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter > >>whether > >>> >>you > >>> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your > >>own > >>> >>from a > >>> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Robert Bills > >>> >>> KG6LMV > >>> >>> Orange County CA > >>> >>> > >>> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm > >>> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com > >>> > |
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
Me, too. Sometimes there is just no substitute for a high-lift.
-- Jim -- 98 TJ SE 90 SJ GW http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98 "You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard enough..." "4x4" in caps is "$X$" "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message news:mkatrv8sc20jldlsrv8vqmcnd8vmvakevb@4ax.com... > Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the high-lift only > when there is no other choice. > > > > On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:22 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the trail? > >>Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he suggests > >>that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift. > >> > >>I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool, but I > >>think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it presents. I > >>know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I needed > >>to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and put > >>it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it couldn't > >>fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could not > >>strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that > >>day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most > >>dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near by > >>tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and use > >>it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a > >>bottle jack would not have done the trick. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message > >>news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com. .. > >>> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle > >>jacks under > >>> the passenger seat instead. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is > >>stored > >>> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job? > >>> >> > >>> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could > >>> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have > >>been > >>> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message > >>> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com... > >>> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another > >>brand > >>> >>that > >>> >>> >is a better choice? > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for > >>changing > >>> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and > >>> >>extremely > >>> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can > >>kill > >>> >>you. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts > >>> >>never > >>> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged." > >>> >>> > >>> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the > >>> >>Hi-Lift > >>> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter > >>whether > >>> >>you > >>> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your > >>own > >>> >>from a > >>> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Robert Bills > >>> >>> KG6LMV > >>> >>> Orange County CA > >>> >>> > >>> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm > >>> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com > >>> > |
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message news:mkatrv8sc20jldlsrv8vqmcnd8vmvakevb@4ax.com... > Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the high-lift only > when there is no other choice. > > That's when I use mine too. It's better than getting my wife to lift while I drive ... |
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message news:mkatrv8sc20jldlsrv8vqmcnd8vmvakevb@4ax.com... > Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the high-lift only > when there is no other choice. > > That's when I use mine too. It's better than getting my wife to lift while I drive ... |
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message news:mkatrv8sc20jldlsrv8vqmcnd8vmvakevb@4ax.com... > Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the high-lift only > when there is no other choice. > > That's when I use mine too. It's better than getting my wife to lift while I drive ... |
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