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Mike Romain 11-21-2003 01:40 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
I think that was Jerry.

I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
right.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

twaldron wrote:
>
> You've gotten some good answers already, so let me just say that there
> was a site that had pics of a guy who mounted his in his engine
> compartment u-bolted laterally to the grill support struts. He removed
> the base first and was careful not to short out the battery when
> removing/installing the jack. I guess you wait for it to cool down or
> wear gloves. :)
>
> JeePenn wrote:
>
> > I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
> > my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
> > jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> > thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
> > or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
> > is a better choice?
> >
> > 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> > externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
> > and why?
> >
> > 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
> >
> > 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
> > me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
> >
> > 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
> > a bad situation in the past.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.
> >
> >

>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________


Mike Romain 11-21-2003 01:40 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
I think that was Jerry.

I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
right.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

twaldron wrote:
>
> You've gotten some good answers already, so let me just say that there
> was a site that had pics of a guy who mounted his in his engine
> compartment u-bolted laterally to the grill support struts. He removed
> the base first and was careful not to short out the battery when
> removing/installing the jack. I guess you wait for it to cool down or
> wear gloves. :)
>
> JeePenn wrote:
>
> > I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
> > my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
> > jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> > thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
> > or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
> > is a better choice?
> >
> > 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> > externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
> > and why?
> >
> > 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
> >
> > 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
> > me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
> >
> > 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
> > a bad situation in the past.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.
> >
> >

>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________


Jerry Bransford 11-21-2003 03:01 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
the situation I was in. Perhaps I could remove it from my Jeep but I'd
rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand

that
> >is a better choice?

>
> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and

extremely
> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can kill

you.
>
> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts

never
> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>
> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the

Hi-Lift
> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter whether

you
> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>
> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your own

from a
> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com




Jerry Bransford 11-21-2003 03:01 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
the situation I was in. Perhaps I could remove it from my Jeep but I'd
rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand

that
> >is a better choice?

>
> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and

extremely
> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can kill

you.
>
> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts

never
> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>
> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the

Hi-Lift
> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter whether

you
> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>
> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your own

from a
> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com




Jerry Bransford 11-21-2003 03:01 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
the situation I was in. Perhaps I could remove it from my Jeep but I'd
rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand

that
> >is a better choice?

>
> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and

extremely
> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can kill

you.
>
> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts

never
> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>
> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the

Hi-Lift
> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter whether

you
> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>
> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your own

from a
> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com




Jerry Bransford 11-21-2003 03:03 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
> I think that was Jerry.
>
> I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
> right.


Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support rods
were bolted to.

Jerry
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> twaldron wrote:
> >
> > You've gotten some good answers already, so let me just say that there
> > was a site that had pics of a guy who mounted his in his engine
> > compartment u-bolted laterally to the grill support struts. He removed
> > the base first and was careful not to short out the battery when
> > removing/installing the jack. I guess you wait for it to cool down or
> > wear gloves. :)
> >
> > JeePenn wrote:
> >
> > > I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I

have had
> > > my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that

having a
> > > jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> > > thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back

bumper
> > > or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand

that
> > > is a better choice?
> > >
> > > 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> > > externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like

this
> > > and why?
> > >
> > > 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and

why?
> > >
> > > 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to

give
> > > me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
> > >
> > > 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you

out of
> > > a bad situation in the past.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.
> > >
> > >

> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > Function: noun
> > Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > World War II.
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________




Jerry Bransford 11-21-2003 03:03 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
> I think that was Jerry.
>
> I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
> right.


Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support rods
were bolted to.

Jerry
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> twaldron wrote:
> >
> > You've gotten some good answers already, so let me just say that there
> > was a site that had pics of a guy who mounted his in his engine
> > compartment u-bolted laterally to the grill support struts. He removed
> > the base first and was careful not to short out the battery when
> > removing/installing the jack. I guess you wait for it to cool down or
> > wear gloves. :)
> >
> > JeePenn wrote:
> >
> > > I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I

have had
> > > my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that

having a
> > > jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> > > thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back

bumper
> > > or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand

that
> > > is a better choice?
> > >
> > > 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> > > externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like

this
> > > and why?
> > >
> > > 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and

why?
> > >
> > > 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to

give
> > > me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
> > >
> > > 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you

out of
> > > a bad situation in the past.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.
> > >
> > >

> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > Function: noun
> > Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > World War II.
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________




Jerry Bransford 11-21-2003 03:03 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
> I think that was Jerry.
>
> I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
> right.


Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support rods
were bolted to.

Jerry
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> twaldron wrote:
> >
> > You've gotten some good answers already, so let me just say that there
> > was a site that had pics of a guy who mounted his in his engine
> > compartment u-bolted laterally to the grill support struts. He removed
> > the base first and was careful not to short out the battery when
> > removing/installing the jack. I guess you wait for it to cool down or
> > wear gloves. :)
> >
> > JeePenn wrote:
> >
> > > I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I

have had
> > > my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that

having a
> > > jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> > > thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back

bumper
> > > or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand

that
> > > is a better choice?
> > >
> > > 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> > > externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like

this
> > > and why?
> > >
> > > 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and

why?
> > >
> > > 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to

give
> > > me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
> > >
> > > 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you

out of
> > > a bad situation in the past.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.
> > >
> > >

> >
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > Function: noun
> > Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > World War II.
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________




CRWLR 11-21-2003 03:15 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is stored
in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?

I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have been
better suited, but they are never around when you need them.





"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand

that
> >is a better choice?

>
> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and

extremely
> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can kill

you.
>
> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts

never
> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>
> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the

Hi-Lift
> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter whether

you
> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>
> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your own

from a
> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com



CRWLR 11-21-2003 03:15 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is stored
in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?

I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have been
better suited, but they are never around when you need them.





"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand

that
> >is a better choice?

>
> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and

extremely
> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can kill

you.
>
> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts

never
> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>
> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the

Hi-Lift
> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter whether

you
> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>
> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your own

from a
> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com




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