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Paul Calman 11-21-2003 12:41 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
"> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and

extremely
> unstable when jacked up.


I have had to use mine a few dozen times, and it scares the hell out of me
every time. A Bottle jack isn't much help when you are rocker-deep in mud or
snow.
I would like to find a better alternative, but it has to have the length.
My bumpers are made of channel or pipe, and I don't mind a few more dents,
so the Hi-lift works for me. I would be really hesitant to use it on a
unReal Jeep.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 11-21-2003 12:41 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
"> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and

extremely
> unstable when jacked up.


I have had to use mine a few dozen times, and it scares the hell out of me
every time. A Bottle jack isn't much help when you are rocker-deep in mud or
snow.
I would like to find a better alternative, but it has to have the length.
My bumpers are made of channel or pipe, and I don't mind a few more dents,
so the Hi-lift works for me. I would be really hesitant to use it on a
unReal Jeep.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 11-21-2003 12:41 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
"> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and

extremely
> unstable when jacked up.


I have had to use mine a few dozen times, and it scares the hell out of me
every time. A Bottle jack isn't much help when you are rocker-deep in mud or
snow.
I would like to find a better alternative, but it has to have the length.
My bumpers are made of channel or pipe, and I don't mind a few more dents,
so the Hi-lift works for me. I would be really hesitant to use it on a
unReal Jeep.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



twaldron 11-21-2003 01:12 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
You've gotten some good answers already, so let me just say that there
was a site that had pics of a guy who mounted his in his engine
compartment u-bolted laterally to the grill support struts. He removed
the base first and was careful not to short out the battery when
removing/installing the jack. I guess you wait for it to cool down or
wear gloves. :)

JeePenn wrote:

> I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
> my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
> jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
> or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
>
>
>
> 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
> is a better choice?
>
> 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
> and why?
>
> 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
>
> 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
> me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
>
> 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
> a bad situation in the past.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.
>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron 11-21-2003 01:12 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
You've gotten some good answers already, so let me just say that there
was a site that had pics of a guy who mounted his in his engine
compartment u-bolted laterally to the grill support struts. He removed
the base first and was careful not to short out the battery when
removing/installing the jack. I guess you wait for it to cool down or
wear gloves. :)

JeePenn wrote:

> I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
> my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
> jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
> or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
>
>
>
> 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
> is a better choice?
>
> 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
> and why?
>
> 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
>
> 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
> me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
>
> 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
> a bad situation in the past.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.
>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 11-21-2003 01:12 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
You've gotten some good answers already, so let me just say that there
was a site that had pics of a guy who mounted his in his engine
compartment u-bolted laterally to the grill support struts. He removed
the base first and was careful not to short out the battery when
removing/installing the jack. I guess you wait for it to cool down or
wear gloves. :)

JeePenn wrote:

> I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
> my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
> jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
> or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
>
>
>
> 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
> is a better choice?
>
> 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
> and why?
>
> 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
>
> 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
> me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
>
> 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
> a bad situation in the past.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.
>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


Cal Wheeler 11-21-2003 01:14 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
Mike Romain wrote:

> I personally don't think those 'widow makers' should be used on a Jeep.
>
> They are extremely unstable and like to just up and fire by themselves
> with the handle going 100 mph plus. Woe to anything that gets in it way
> too!
>
> The last one I tried was new and the damn thing tried to take my face
> off.


I know someone makes a plastic plate for the foot. Is there not someone
who makes a strut/gusset system that would fold up compact, but make the
thing a lot more stable?

You'd think they would, if they don't.
>
> I carry a small floor jack. It tucks in behind the passenger seat
> great.


There ya go.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JeePenn wrote:
>
>>I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
>>my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
>>jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
>>thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
>>or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
>>
>>1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
>>is a better choice?
>>
>>2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
>>externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
>>and why?
>>
>>3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
>>
>>4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
>>me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
>>
>>5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
>>a bad situation in the past.
>>
>>Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.



Cal Wheeler 11-21-2003 01:14 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
Mike Romain wrote:

> I personally don't think those 'widow makers' should be used on a Jeep.
>
> They are extremely unstable and like to just up and fire by themselves
> with the handle going 100 mph plus. Woe to anything that gets in it way
> too!
>
> The last one I tried was new and the damn thing tried to take my face
> off.


I know someone makes a plastic plate for the foot. Is there not someone
who makes a strut/gusset system that would fold up compact, but make the
thing a lot more stable?

You'd think they would, if they don't.
>
> I carry a small floor jack. It tucks in behind the passenger seat
> great.


There ya go.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JeePenn wrote:
>
>>I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
>>my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
>>jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
>>thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
>>or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
>>
>>1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
>>is a better choice?
>>
>>2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
>>externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
>>and why?
>>
>>3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
>>
>>4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
>>me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
>>
>>5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
>>a bad situation in the past.
>>
>>Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.



Cal Wheeler 11-21-2003 01:14 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
Mike Romain wrote:

> I personally don't think those 'widow makers' should be used on a Jeep.
>
> They are extremely unstable and like to just up and fire by themselves
> with the handle going 100 mph plus. Woe to anything that gets in it way
> too!
>
> The last one I tried was new and the damn thing tried to take my face
> off.


I know someone makes a plastic plate for the foot. Is there not someone
who makes a strut/gusset system that would fold up compact, but make the
thing a lot more stable?

You'd think they would, if they don't.
>
> I carry a small floor jack. It tucks in behind the passenger seat
> great.


There ya go.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JeePenn wrote:
>
>>I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
>>my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
>>jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
>>thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
>>or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
>>
>>1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
>>is a better choice?
>>
>>2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
>>externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
>>and why?
>>
>>3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
>>
>>4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
>>me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
>>
>>5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
>>a bad situation in the past.
>>
>>Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.



Mike Romain 11-21-2003 01:40 PM

Re: Lets Talk Jacks
 
I think that was Jerry.

I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
right.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

twaldron wrote:
>
> You've gotten some good answers already, so let me just say that there
> was a site that had pics of a guy who mounted his in his engine
> compartment u-bolted laterally to the grill support struts. He removed
> the base first and was careful not to short out the battery when
> removing/installing the jack. I guess you wait for it to cool down or
> wear gloves. :)
>
> JeePenn wrote:
>
> > I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
> > my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
> > jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> > thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
> > or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
> > is a better choice?
> >
> > 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> > externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
> > and why?
> >
> > 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
> >
> > 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
> > me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
> >
> > 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
> > a bad situation in the past.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.
> >
> >

>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________



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