Lets Talk Jacks
11-21-2003, 03:15 PM
#31
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Re: Lets Talk Jacks
Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is stored
in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have been
better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand
that
> >is a better choice?
>
> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
extremely
> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can kill
you.
>
> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
never
> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>
> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
Hi-Lift
> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter whether
you
> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>
> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your own
from a
> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have been
better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand
that
> >is a better choice?
>
> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
extremely
> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can kill
you.
>
> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
never
> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>
> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
Hi-Lift
> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter whether
you
> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>
> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your own
from a
> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
11-21-2003, 03:17 PM
#32
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Re: Lets Talk Jacks
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
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> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
> > I think that was Jerry.
> >
> > I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
> > right.
>
> Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
> spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support
rods
> were bolted to.
>
So, what looked like a really good idea didn't pan out so well?
11-21-2003, 03:17 PM
#33
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Re: Lets Talk Jacks
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
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> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
> > I think that was Jerry.
> >
> > I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
> > right.
>
> Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
> spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support
rods
> were bolted to.
>
So, what looked like a really good idea didn't pan out so well?
11-21-2003, 03:17 PM
#34
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Re: Lets Talk Jacks
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:fcuvb.5125$Bk1.2022@fed1read05...
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
> > I think that was Jerry.
> >
> > I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
> > right.
>
> Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
> spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support
rods
> were bolted to.
>
So, what looked like a really good idea didn't pan out so well?
11-21-2003, 03:37 PM
#35
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Re: Lets Talk Jacks
>I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
>4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
>the situation I was in.
Not even a tow strap and a buddy in another jeep?
Admittedly, a hi-lift may be the only solution to being stuck when you are
traveling alone, but there are usually much better ways when you are traveling
in a group.
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
>4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
>the situation I was in.
Not even a tow strap and a buddy in another jeep?
Admittedly, a hi-lift may be the only solution to being stuck when you are
traveling alone, but there are usually much better ways when you are traveling
in a group.
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
11-21-2003, 03:37 PM
#36
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Re: Lets Talk Jacks
>I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
>4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
>the situation I was in.
Not even a tow strap and a buddy in another jeep?
Admittedly, a hi-lift may be the only solution to being stuck when you are
traveling alone, but there are usually much better ways when you are traveling
in a group.
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
>4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
>the situation I was in.
Not even a tow strap and a buddy in another jeep?
Admittedly, a hi-lift may be the only solution to being stuck when you are
traveling alone, but there are usually much better ways when you are traveling
in a group.
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
11-21-2003, 03:37 PM
#37
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Re: Lets Talk Jacks
>I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
>4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
>the situation I was in.
Not even a tow strap and a buddy in another jeep?
Admittedly, a hi-lift may be the only solution to being stuck when you are
traveling alone, but there are usually much better ways when you are traveling
in a group.
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
>4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
>the situation I was in.
Not even a tow strap and a buddy in another jeep?
Admittedly, a hi-lift may be the only solution to being stuck when you are
traveling alone, but there are usually much better ways when you are traveling
in a group.
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
11-21-2003, 03:51 PM
#38
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Re: Lets Talk Jacks
I wasn't stuck Robert, I had to get a wheel off both times (one flat, one
broken axle) and the extremely off-camber/uneven terrain wouldn't permit the
use of the bottle jack.
Jerry
--
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"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031121153748.27776.00000706@mb-m06.aol.com...
> >I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
> >4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
> >the situation I was in.
>
>
> Not even a tow strap and a buddy in another jeep?
>
> Admittedly, a hi-lift may be the only solution to being stuck when you are
> traveling alone, but there are usually much better ways when you are
traveling
> in a group.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
broken axle) and the extremely off-camber/uneven terrain wouldn't permit the
use of the bottle jack.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031121153748.27776.00000706@mb-m06.aol.com...
> >I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
> >4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
> >the situation I was in.
>
>
> Not even a tow strap and a buddy in another jeep?
>
> Admittedly, a hi-lift may be the only solution to being stuck when you are
> traveling alone, but there are usually much better ways when you are
traveling
> in a group.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
11-21-2003, 03:51 PM
#39
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Re: Lets Talk Jacks
I wasn't stuck Robert, I had to get a wheel off both times (one flat, one
broken axle) and the extremely off-camber/uneven terrain wouldn't permit the
use of the bottle jack.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031121153748.27776.00000706@mb-m06.aol.com...
> >I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
> >4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
> >the situation I was in.
>
>
> Not even a tow strap and a buddy in another jeep?
>
> Admittedly, a hi-lift may be the only solution to being stuck when you are
> traveling alone, but there are usually much better ways when you are
traveling
> in a group.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
broken axle) and the extremely off-camber/uneven terrain wouldn't permit the
use of the bottle jack.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031121153748.27776.00000706@mb-m06.aol.com...
> >I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
> >4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
> >the situation I was in.
>
>
> Not even a tow strap and a buddy in another jeep?
>
> Admittedly, a hi-lift may be the only solution to being stuck when you are
> traveling alone, but there are usually much better ways when you are
traveling
> in a group.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
11-21-2003, 03:51 PM
#40
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Re: Lets Talk Jacks
I wasn't stuck Robert, I had to get a wheel off both times (one flat, one
broken axle) and the extremely off-camber/uneven terrain wouldn't permit the
use of the bottle jack.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031121153748.27776.00000706@mb-m06.aol.com...
> >I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
> >4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
> >the situation I was in.
>
>
> Not even a tow strap and a buddy in another jeep?
>
> Admittedly, a hi-lift may be the only solution to being stuck when you are
> traveling alone, but there are usually much better ways when you are
traveling
> in a group.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
broken axle) and the extremely off-camber/uneven terrain wouldn't permit the
use of the bottle jack.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20031121153748.27776.00000706@mb-m06.aol.com...
> >I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
> >4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
> >the situation I was in.
>
>
> Not even a tow strap and a buddy in another jeep?
>
> Admittedly, a hi-lift may be the only solution to being stuck when you are
> traveling alone, but there are usually much better ways when you are
traveling
> in a group.
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> http://www.RobertBills.com
