Lets Talk Jacks
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Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle jacks under
the passenger seat instead.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is stored
>>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
>>
>>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
>>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have been
>>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
>>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand
>>that
>>> >is a better choice?
>>>
>>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
>>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
>>extremely
>>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can kill
>>you.
>>>
>>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
>>never
>>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>>>
>>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
>>Hi-Lift
>>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter whether
>>you
>>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>>>
>>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your own
>>from a
>>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>>>
>>> Robert Bills
>>> KG6LMV
>>> Orange County CA
>>>
>>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>> http://www.RobertBills.com
the passenger seat instead.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is stored
>>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
>>
>>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
>>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have been
>>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
>>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand
>>that
>>> >is a better choice?
>>>
>>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
>>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
>>extremely
>>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can kill
>>you.
>>>
>>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
>>never
>>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>>>
>>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
>>Hi-Lift
>>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter whether
>>you
>>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>>>
>>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your own
>>from a
>>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>>>
>>> Robert Bills
>>> KG6LMV
>>> Orange County CA
>>>
>>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>> http://www.RobertBills.com
Guest
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Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle jacks under
the passenger seat instead.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is stored
>>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
>>
>>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
>>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have been
>>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
>>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand
>>that
>>> >is a better choice?
>>>
>>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
>>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
>>extremely
>>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can kill
>>you.
>>>
>>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
>>never
>>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>>>
>>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
>>Hi-Lift
>>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter whether
>>you
>>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>>>
>>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your own
>>from a
>>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>>>
>>> Robert Bills
>>> KG6LMV
>>> Orange County CA
>>>
>>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>> http://www.RobertBills.com
the passenger seat instead.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is stored
>>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
>>
>>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
>>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have been
>>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
>>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand
>>that
>>> >is a better choice?
>>>
>>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
>>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
>>extremely
>>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can kill
>>you.
>>>
>>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
>>never
>>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>>>
>>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
>>Hi-Lift
>>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter whether
>>you
>>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>>>
>>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your own
>>from a
>>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>>>
>>> Robert Bills
>>> KG6LMV
>>> Orange County CA
>>>
>>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>> http://www.RobertBills.com
Guest
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Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle jacks under
the passenger seat instead.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is stored
>>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
>>
>>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
>>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have been
>>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
>>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand
>>that
>>> >is a better choice?
>>>
>>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
>>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
>>extremely
>>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can kill
>>you.
>>>
>>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
>>never
>>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>>>
>>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
>>Hi-Lift
>>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter whether
>>you
>>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>>>
>>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your own
>>from a
>>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>>>
>>> Robert Bills
>>> KG6LMV
>>> Orange County CA
>>>
>>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>> http://www.RobertBills.com
the passenger seat instead.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is stored
>>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
>>
>>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
>>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have been
>>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
>>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand
>>that
>>> >is a better choice?
>>>
>>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
>>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
>>extremely
>>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can kill
>>you.
>>>
>>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
>>never
>>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>>>
>>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
>>Hi-Lift
>>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter whether
>>you
>>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>>>
>>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your own
>>from a
>>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>>>
>>> Robert Bills
>>> KG6LMV
>>> Orange County CA
>>>
>>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>> http://www.RobertBills.com
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Well, if you are stuck on getting one, the High Lift isn't too bad of an
imitation of the real one, the Jack All.
The no name ones are junk.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JeePenn wrote:
>
> I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
> my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
> jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
> or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
>
> 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
> is a better choice?
>
> 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
> and why?
>
> 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
>
> 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
> me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
>
> 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
> a bad situation in the past.
>
> Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.
imitation of the real one, the Jack All.
The no name ones are junk.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JeePenn wrote:
>
> I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
> my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
> jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
> or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
>
> 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
> is a better choice?
>
> 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
> and why?
>
> 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
>
> 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
> me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
>
> 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
> a bad situation in the past.
>
> Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.
Guest
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Well, if you are stuck on getting one, the High Lift isn't too bad of an
imitation of the real one, the Jack All.
The no name ones are junk.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JeePenn wrote:
>
> I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
> my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
> jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
> or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
>
> 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
> is a better choice?
>
> 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
> and why?
>
> 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
>
> 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
> me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
>
> 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
> a bad situation in the past.
>
> Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.
imitation of the real one, the Jack All.
The no name ones are junk.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JeePenn wrote:
>
> I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
> my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
> jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
> or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
>
> 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
> is a better choice?
>
> 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
> and why?
>
> 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
>
> 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
> me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
>
> 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
> a bad situation in the past.
>
> Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.
Guest
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Well, if you are stuck on getting one, the High Lift isn't too bad of an
imitation of the real one, the Jack All.
The no name ones are junk.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JeePenn wrote:
>
> I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
> my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
> jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
> or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
>
> 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
> is a better choice?
>
> 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
> and why?
>
> 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
>
> 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
> me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
>
> 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
> a bad situation in the past.
>
> Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.
imitation of the real one, the Jack All.
The no name ones are junk.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
JeePenn wrote:
>
> I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
> my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
> jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
> or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
>
> 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
> is a better choice?
>
> 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
> and why?
>
> 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
>
> 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
> me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
>
> 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
> a bad situation in the past.
>
> Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.
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Approximately 11/21/03 12:01, Jerry Bransford uttered for posterity:
> I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
> 4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
> the situation I was in. Perhaps I could remove it from my Jeep but I'd
> rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Totally worthless as a jack, but why not use a Come-A-Long rather than
the high lift? Essentially a small ratcheting block and tackle.
I can't find a picture of the heavy style logging version, used to
tighten and hold logs in place on the big trucks. The ones we used
were also strong enough to pull a truck out of a tough place, with
about a 6-8 foot handle for leverage in driving the ratchet.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
> I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
> 4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
> the situation I was in. Perhaps I could remove it from my Jeep but I'd
> rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Totally worthless as a jack, but why not use a Come-A-Long rather than
the high lift? Essentially a small ratcheting block and tackle.
I can't find a picture of the heavy style logging version, used to
tighten and hold logs in place on the big trucks. The ones we used
were also strong enough to pull a truck out of a tough place, with
about a 6-8 foot handle for leverage in driving the ratchet.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
Guest
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Approximately 11/21/03 12:01, Jerry Bransford uttered for posterity:
> I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
> 4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
> the situation I was in. Perhaps I could remove it from my Jeep but I'd
> rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Totally worthless as a jack, but why not use a Come-A-Long rather than
the high lift? Essentially a small ratcheting block and tackle.
I can't find a picture of the heavy style logging version, used to
tighten and hold logs in place on the big trucks. The ones we used
were also strong enough to pull a truck out of a tough place, with
about a 6-8 foot handle for leverage in driving the ratchet.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
> I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
> 4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
> the situation I was in. Perhaps I could remove it from my Jeep but I'd
> rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Totally worthless as a jack, but why not use a Come-A-Long rather than
the high lift? Essentially a small ratcheting block and tackle.
I can't find a picture of the heavy style logging version, used to
tighten and hold logs in place on the big trucks. The ones we used
were also strong enough to pull a truck out of a tough place, with
about a 6-8 foot handle for leverage in driving the ratchet.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Approximately 11/21/03 12:01, Jerry Bransford uttered for posterity:
> I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
> 4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
> the situation I was in. Perhaps I could remove it from my Jeep but I'd
> rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Totally worthless as a jack, but why not use a Come-A-Long rather than
the high lift? Essentially a small ratcheting block and tackle.
I can't find a picture of the heavy style logging version, used to
tighten and hold logs in place on the big trucks. The ones we used
were also strong enough to pull a truck out of a tough place, with
about a 6-8 foot handle for leverage in driving the ratchet.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
> I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
> 4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
> the situation I was in. Perhaps I could remove it from my Jeep but I'd
> rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Totally worthless as a jack, but why not use a Come-A-Long rather than
the high lift? Essentially a small ratcheting block and tackle.
I can't find a picture of the heavy style logging version, used to
tighten and hold logs in place on the big trucks. The ones we used
were also strong enough to pull a truck out of a tough place, with
about a 6-8 foot handle for leverage in driving the ratchet.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
Guest
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Guess so...sheesh. Maybe it's just due to all the 'air' Jerry gets when
hits an obstacle. Jerry 'Evel' Bransford. ;)
CRWLR wrote:
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:fcuvb.5125$Bk1.2022@fed1read05...
>
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>I think that was Jerry.
>>>
>>>I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
>>>right.
>>
>>Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
>>spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support
>
> rods
>
>>were bolted to.
>>
>
>
> So, what looked like a really good idea didn't pan out so well?
>
>
>
>
--
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tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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hits an obstacle. Jerry 'Evel' Bransford. ;)
CRWLR wrote:
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:fcuvb.5125$Bk1.2022@fed1read05...
>
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>I think that was Jerry.
>>>
>>>I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
>>>right.
>>
>>Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
>>spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support
>
> rods
>
>>were bolted to.
>>
>
>
> So, what looked like a really good idea didn't pan out so well?
>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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