jbjeep

Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle jacks under
the passenger seat instead.



On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is stored
>>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
>>
>>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
>>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have been
>>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
>>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand
>>that
>>> >is a better choice?
>>>
>>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
>>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
>>extremely
>>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can kill
>>you.
>>>
>>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
>>never
>>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>>>
>>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
>>Hi-Lift
>>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter whether
>>you
>>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>>>
>>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your own
>>from a
>>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>>>
>>> Robert Bills
>>> KG6LMV
>>> Orange County CA
>>>
>>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>> http://www.RobertBills.com

jbjeep

Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle jacks under
the passenger seat instead.



On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is stored
>>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
>>
>>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
>>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have been
>>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
>>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand
>>that
>>> >is a better choice?
>>>
>>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
>>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
>>extremely
>>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can kill
>>you.
>>>
>>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
>>never
>>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>>>
>>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
>>Hi-Lift
>>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter whether
>>you
>>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>>>
>>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your own
>>from a
>>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>>>
>>> Robert Bills
>>> KG6LMV
>>> Orange County CA
>>>
>>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>> http://www.RobertBills.com

jbjeep

Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle jacks under
the passenger seat instead.



On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is stored
>>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
>>
>>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
>>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have been
>>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
>>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand
>>that
>>> >is a better choice?
>>>
>>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for changing
>>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
>>extremely
>>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can kill
>>you.
>>>
>>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
>>never
>>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>>>
>>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
>>Hi-Lift
>>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter whether
>>you
>>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>>>
>>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your own
>>from a
>>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>>>
>>> Robert Bills
>>> KG6LMV
>>> Orange County CA
>>>
>>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>> http://www.RobertBills.com

Mike Romain

Well, if you are stuck on getting one, the High Lift isn't too bad of an
imitation of the real one, the Jack All.

The no name ones are junk.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

JeePenn wrote:
>
> I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
> my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
> jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
> or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
>
> 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
> is a better choice?
>
> 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
> and why?
>
> 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
>
> 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
> me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
>
> 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
> a bad situation in the past.
>
> Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.

Mike Romain

Well, if you are stuck on getting one, the High Lift isn't too bad of an
imitation of the real one, the Jack All.

The no name ones are junk.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

JeePenn wrote:
>
> I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
> my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
> jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
> or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
>
> 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
> is a better choice?
>
> 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
> and why?
>
> 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
>
> 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
> me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
>
> 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
> a bad situation in the past.
>
> Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.

Mike Romain

Well, if you are stuck on getting one, the High Lift isn't too bad of an
imitation of the real one, the Jack All.

The no name ones are junk.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

JeePenn wrote:
>
> I have been reading an on-line advertisement for Hi-Lift jacks. I have had
> my 2000 TJ for only a few months but I am beginning to think that having a
> jack like this for the trail would be a good think to have. I am also
> thinking that I want to store the jack externally either on the back bumper
> or the front bumper. I would welcome your opinions on the following:
>
> 1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another brand that
> is a better choice?
>
> 2) As I mentioned above, I am thinking that I want to mount it
> externally. What are your thoughts about where to mount a jack like this
> and why?
>
> 3) Are there any jack accessories that you would recommend and why?
>
> 4) I would also welcome any links to pictures of mounted jacks to give
> me some ideas as to where I can mount a jack.
>
> 5) I would also like to hear how a jack like this has helped you out of
> a bad situation in the past.
>
> Thanks in advance and I always appreciate all responses.

Lon Stowell

Approximately 11/21/03 12:01, Jerry Bransford uttered for posterity:

> I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
> 4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
> the situation I was in. Perhaps I could remove it from my Jeep but I'd
> rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Totally worthless as a jack, but why not use a Come-A-Long rather than
the high lift? Essentially a small ratcheting block and tackle.
I can't find a picture of the heavy style logging version, used to
tighten and hold logs in place on the big trucks. The ones we used
were also strong enough to pull a truck out of a tough place, with
about a 6-8 foot handle for leverage in driving the ratchet.

--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.

Lon Stowell

Approximately 11/21/03 12:01, Jerry Bransford uttered for posterity:

> I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
> 4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
> the situation I was in. Perhaps I could remove it from my Jeep but I'd
> rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Totally worthless as a jack, but why not use a Come-A-Long rather than
the high lift? Essentially a small ratcheting block and tackle.
I can't find a picture of the heavy style logging version, used to
tighten and hold logs in place on the big trucks. The ones we used
were also strong enough to pull a truck out of a tough place, with
about a 6-8 foot handle for leverage in driving the ratchet.

--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.

Lon Stowell

Approximately 11/21/03 12:01, Jerry Bransford uttered for posterity:

> I don't like nor use my Hi-Lift very much... used twice off-road in maybe
> 4-5 years to be exact. But both times, nothing else would have worked in
> the situation I was in. Perhaps I could remove it from my Jeep but I'd
> rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Totally worthless as a jack, but why not use a Come-A-Long rather than
the high lift? Essentially a small ratcheting block and tackle.
I can't find a picture of the heavy style logging version, used to
tighten and hold logs in place on the big trucks. The ones we used
were also strong enough to pull a truck out of a tough place, with
about a 6-8 foot handle for leverage in driving the ratchet.

--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.

twaldron

Guess so...sheesh. Maybe it's just due to all the 'air' Jerry gets when
hits an obstacle. Jerry 'Evel' Bransford. ;)

CRWLR wrote:

> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:fcuvb.5125$Bk1.2022@fed1read05...
>
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:3FBE5C13.B8A974B0@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>I think that was Jerry.
>>>
>>>I also think it broke the the bars loose from the tub if I remember
>>>right.
>>
>>Right on both counts. The weight of the Hi-Lift actually broke the
>>spot-welds behind the firewall that held the nuts the radiator support
>
> rods
>
>>were bolted to.
>>
>
>
> So, what looked like a really good idea didn't pan out so well?
>
>
>
>

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Function: noun
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Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
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