Fort Agent

Canyon rim package 30x9.5x15 Goodyears Factory Issue tires

I have an unusual cupped type wear pattern on my left front tire.
After aprox 6000 miles I rotated out the front left tire to the spare
tire carrier because these cupped wear patterns where causing alot of
vibration.
Another roation because of cupped tire wear on the new left front at
14000 miles caused me to rotate the 2 front tires to the back axle.
Now at 30000 miles the left front tire is again cupped and so worn
that I have grounded the jeep until the problem is fixed.

I understand complety that I have not followed the recommended
rotation pattern or mileage interval

The jeep is still under warranty until may 0f 04 or another 6000 miles
so I took it to the dealer for repair. They said the supension and
alignment checkout ok and that it is lack of proper rotation that is
causing the problem.

My question is why is the left front tire showing this choppy/cupped
wear pattern while the right front is wearing normally? I want to go
to new tires ( Goodwear MT/R 31x10.5) but don't want to replace them
until I know that the problem is fixed.

Is the dealer taking me for a ride ? they are known for good honest
service, but I still question their diagnosis.

The jeep is currently a highway machine and has been most of its life
with very little off road activity.

Thanks for the help
problem.

twaldron

Bad shock.

Fort Agent wrote:

> Canyon rim package 30x9.5x15 Goodyears Factory Issue tires
>
> I have an unusual cupped type wear pattern on my left front tire.
> After aprox 6000 miles I rotated out the front left tire to the spare
> tire carrier because these cupped wear patterns where causing alot of
> vibration.
> Another roation because of cupped tire wear on the new left front at
> 14000 miles caused me to rotate the 2 front tires to the back axle.
> Now at 30000 miles the left front tire is again cupped and so worn
> that I have grounded the jeep until the problem is fixed.
>
> I understand complety that I have not followed the recommended
> rotation pattern or mileage interval
>
> The jeep is still under warranty until may 0f 04 or another 6000 miles
> so I took it to the dealer for repair. They said the supension and
> alignment checkout ok and that it is lack of proper rotation that is
> causing the problem.
>
> My question is why is the left front tire showing this choppy/cupped
> wear pattern while the right front is wearing normally? I want to go
> to new tires ( Goodwear MT/R 31x10.5) but don't want to replace them
> until I know that the problem is fixed.
>
> Is the dealer taking me for a ride ? they are known for good honest
> service, but I still question their diagnosis.
>
> The jeep is currently a highway machine and has been most of its life
> with very little off road activity.
>
> Thanks for the help
> problem.
>
>
>
>

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__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron

Bad shock.

Fort Agent wrote:

> Canyon rim package 30x9.5x15 Goodyears Factory Issue tires
>
> I have an unusual cupped type wear pattern on my left front tire.
> After aprox 6000 miles I rotated out the front left tire to the spare
> tire carrier because these cupped wear patterns where causing alot of
> vibration.
> Another roation because of cupped tire wear on the new left front at
> 14000 miles caused me to rotate the 2 front tires to the back axle.
> Now at 30000 miles the left front tire is again cupped and so worn
> that I have grounded the jeep until the problem is fixed.
>
> I understand complety that I have not followed the recommended
> rotation pattern or mileage interval
>
> The jeep is still under warranty until may 0f 04 or another 6000 miles
> so I took it to the dealer for repair. They said the supension and
> alignment checkout ok and that it is lack of proper rotation that is
> causing the problem.
>
> My question is why is the left front tire showing this choppy/cupped
> wear pattern while the right front is wearing normally? I want to go
> to new tires ( Goodwear MT/R 31x10.5) but don't want to replace them
> until I know that the problem is fixed.
>
> Is the dealer taking me for a ride ? they are known for good honest
> service, but I still question their diagnosis.
>
> The jeep is currently a highway machine and has been most of its life
> with very little off road activity.
>
> Thanks for the help
> problem.
>
>
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron

Bad shock.

Fort Agent wrote:

> Canyon rim package 30x9.5x15 Goodyears Factory Issue tires
>
> I have an unusual cupped type wear pattern on my left front tire.
> After aprox 6000 miles I rotated out the front left tire to the spare
> tire carrier because these cupped wear patterns where causing alot of
> vibration.
> Another roation because of cupped tire wear on the new left front at
> 14000 miles caused me to rotate the 2 front tires to the back axle.
> Now at 30000 miles the left front tire is again cupped and so worn
> that I have grounded the jeep until the problem is fixed.
>
> I understand complety that I have not followed the recommended
> rotation pattern or mileage interval
>
> The jeep is still under warranty until may 0f 04 or another 6000 miles
> so I took it to the dealer for repair. They said the supension and
> alignment checkout ok and that it is lack of proper rotation that is
> causing the problem.
>
> My question is why is the left front tire showing this choppy/cupped
> wear pattern while the right front is wearing normally? I want to go
> to new tires ( Goodwear MT/R 31x10.5) but don't want to replace them
> until I know that the problem is fixed.
>
> Is the dealer taking me for a ride ? they are known for good honest
> service, but I still question their diagnosis.
>
> The jeep is currently a highway machine and has been most of its life
> with very little off road activity.
>
> Thanks for the help
> problem.
>
>
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Stephen Cowell

"Fort Agent" <joe@dokes.com> wrote in message
news:a0704bbd33d39559c5a5d7bd31caf3ad@news.teranew s.com...
> Canyon rim package 30x9.5x15 Goodyears Factory Issue tires
>
> I have an unusual cupped type wear pattern on my left front tire.
> After aprox 6000 miles I rotated out the front left tire to the spare
> tire carrier because these cupped wear patterns where causing alot of
> vibration.
....
> The jeep is currently a highway machine and has been most of its life
> with very little off road activity.

That's your answer then... you Jeep is not getting enough 'rim'.... ;>)

Seriously, cupping on only one side is caused by something
being loose. Tie rod end, ball joint, wheel bearing, etc.
Take it to a real front-end shop and have it thoroughly gone
over... then take the bill to your dealer.
__
Steve
..

Stephen Cowell

"Fort Agent" <joe@dokes.com> wrote in message
news:a0704bbd33d39559c5a5d7bd31caf3ad@news.teranew s.com...
> Canyon rim package 30x9.5x15 Goodyears Factory Issue tires
>
> I have an unusual cupped type wear pattern on my left front tire.
> After aprox 6000 miles I rotated out the front left tire to the spare
> tire carrier because these cupped wear patterns where causing alot of
> vibration.
....
> The jeep is currently a highway machine and has been most of its life
> with very little off road activity.

That's your answer then... you Jeep is not getting enough 'rim'.... ;>)

Seriously, cupping on only one side is caused by something
being loose. Tie rod end, ball joint, wheel bearing, etc.
Take it to a real front-end shop and have it thoroughly gone
over... then take the bill to your dealer.
__
Steve
..

Stephen Cowell

"Fort Agent" <joe@dokes.com> wrote in message
news:a0704bbd33d39559c5a5d7bd31caf3ad@news.teranew s.com...
> Canyon rim package 30x9.5x15 Goodyears Factory Issue tires
>
> I have an unusual cupped type wear pattern on my left front tire.
> After aprox 6000 miles I rotated out the front left tire to the spare
> tire carrier because these cupped wear patterns where causing alot of
> vibration.
....
> The jeep is currently a highway machine and has been most of its life
> with very little off road activity.

That's your answer then... you Jeep is not getting enough 'rim'.... ;>)

Seriously, cupping on only one side is caused by something
being loose. Tie rod end, ball joint, wheel bearing, etc.
Take it to a real front-end shop and have it thoroughly gone
over... then take the bill to your dealer.
__
Steve
..

CRWLR

Cupping is typically an indication that the shocks are bad. There can be
other things to look at, but the shocks should be one of the eariler
inspections.

CRWLR

Cupping is typically an indication that the shocks are bad. There can be
other things to look at, but the shocks should be one of the eariler
inspections.

CRWLR

Cupping is typically an indication that the shocks are bad. There can be
other things to look at, but the shocks should be one of the eariler
inspections.