Just saw radiator water drop by the bell housing
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Re: Just saw radiator water drop by the bell housing
Who sealed the the 4.0's water passages, and how, where they
drilled and plugged, as I did on 348" Chevy conversion, or just Bondoed,
as: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/new/40conv.html
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Just a wild assed guess. Your 'mechanic' was messing with head gasket
> bolts and one water channel is in the back corner. You 'really' can't
> do that on a normal build, let alone a build where the head doesn't mate
> up correctly to the engine.
>
> Mike
drilled and plugged, as I did on 348" Chevy conversion, or just Bondoed,
as: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/new/40conv.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Just a wild assed guess. Your 'mechanic' was messing with head gasket
> bolts and one water channel is in the back corner. You 'really' can't
> do that on a normal build, let alone a build where the head doesn't mate
> up correctly to the engine.
>
> Mike
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Re: Just saw radiator water drop by the bell housing
Bill, I just had the first chance to look at my old engine sitting in my
garage in the daylight, and it has been rebuilt, much to my surprise.
Mine had the cam changed as part of it's rebuild because the bottom
right top side 'freeze' plug is new an has sealant on it.
See my 'what kind of cam in my 86 post'.
You had a gas washed engine and your cam looks stock still?????
For that money they didn't replace the cam bearings???????
Please say I am wrong......
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> Here's a pic of the engine before it went in. I see the freeze plugs you're
> talking about.
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engineback.jpg
>
> I looked at all the hoses on a first round and didn't find anything. Now
> it's getting dark so I'll try again tomorrow on a second pass and I'll be
> specifically looking for this as I start the engine.
>
> Could be the freeze plug tightens up as the engine warms thus cutting off
> the flow of liquid escaping.
>
> There's a full warranty on the engine so if he has to pull it for a 2.00
> freeze plug (I'm guessing at the price) then it's on his shoulders.
>
> I'll just be down without a running jeep until it's fixed, if that's the
> problem.
>
> So maybe by NEXT FREAKIN summer I'll have a jeep to drive :-)
>
> Bill
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:xzeqc.53611$Z%5.19676@okepread01...
> > William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> > > BTW, it looked like it came from "Inside" the bell housing. At the
> bottom
> > > there's like a one inch rectangular gap that the water fell from. Now
> what
> > > do you think?
> >
> > It is possible a casting/freeze plug has started to leak. There are two
> > located behind the flywheel. Getting to them require removing the engine
> > so check everything else first.
> >
> > Lots of things look like they come from the bell housing, including oil
> > leaks from the valve cover that look like a leaking rear main seal.
> >
> > Dry all the hose connections and start the engine flex each hose around
> the
> > clamps if there is a small leak it will be real easy to spot. Check for
> > real soft hoses, soft spots, or bulges in the hose.
> >
> > > "William Oliveri" wrote ...
> > >> I'll check them but, If that was the case wouldn't I see it more as the
> jeep
> > >> warms up and gets more water pressure?
> >
> > Yes, but with the engine running what sprays out can evaporate or get
> > blown all over by the engine fan. When the engine is turned off the
> > remaining pressure starts the leak. Some evaporates, some runs back.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
garage in the daylight, and it has been rebuilt, much to my surprise.
Mine had the cam changed as part of it's rebuild because the bottom
right top side 'freeze' plug is new an has sealant on it.
See my 'what kind of cam in my 86 post'.
You had a gas washed engine and your cam looks stock still?????
For that money they didn't replace the cam bearings???????
Please say I am wrong......
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> Here's a pic of the engine before it went in. I see the freeze plugs you're
> talking about.
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engineback.jpg
>
> I looked at all the hoses on a first round and didn't find anything. Now
> it's getting dark so I'll try again tomorrow on a second pass and I'll be
> specifically looking for this as I start the engine.
>
> Could be the freeze plug tightens up as the engine warms thus cutting off
> the flow of liquid escaping.
>
> There's a full warranty on the engine so if he has to pull it for a 2.00
> freeze plug (I'm guessing at the price) then it's on his shoulders.
>
> I'll just be down without a running jeep until it's fixed, if that's the
> problem.
>
> So maybe by NEXT FREAKIN summer I'll have a jeep to drive :-)
>
> Bill
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:xzeqc.53611$Z%5.19676@okepread01...
> > William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> > > BTW, it looked like it came from "Inside" the bell housing. At the
> bottom
> > > there's like a one inch rectangular gap that the water fell from. Now
> what
> > > do you think?
> >
> > It is possible a casting/freeze plug has started to leak. There are two
> > located behind the flywheel. Getting to them require removing the engine
> > so check everything else first.
> >
> > Lots of things look like they come from the bell housing, including oil
> > leaks from the valve cover that look like a leaking rear main seal.
> >
> > Dry all the hose connections and start the engine flex each hose around
> the
> > clamps if there is a small leak it will be real easy to spot. Check for
> > real soft hoses, soft spots, or bulges in the hose.
> >
> > > "William Oliveri" wrote ...
> > >> I'll check them but, If that was the case wouldn't I see it more as the
> jeep
> > >> warms up and gets more water pressure?
> >
> > Yes, but with the engine running what sprays out can evaporate or get
> > blown all over by the engine fan. When the engine is turned off the
> > remaining pressure starts the leak. Some evaporates, some runs back.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
#87
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Re: Just saw radiator water drop by the bell housing
Bill, I just had the first chance to look at my old engine sitting in my
garage in the daylight, and it has been rebuilt, much to my surprise.
Mine had the cam changed as part of it's rebuild because the bottom
right top side 'freeze' plug is new an has sealant on it.
See my 'what kind of cam in my 86 post'.
You had a gas washed engine and your cam looks stock still?????
For that money they didn't replace the cam bearings???????
Please say I am wrong......
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> Here's a pic of the engine before it went in. I see the freeze plugs you're
> talking about.
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engineback.jpg
>
> I looked at all the hoses on a first round and didn't find anything. Now
> it's getting dark so I'll try again tomorrow on a second pass and I'll be
> specifically looking for this as I start the engine.
>
> Could be the freeze plug tightens up as the engine warms thus cutting off
> the flow of liquid escaping.
>
> There's a full warranty on the engine so if he has to pull it for a 2.00
> freeze plug (I'm guessing at the price) then it's on his shoulders.
>
> I'll just be down without a running jeep until it's fixed, if that's the
> problem.
>
> So maybe by NEXT FREAKIN summer I'll have a jeep to drive :-)
>
> Bill
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:xzeqc.53611$Z%5.19676@okepread01...
> > William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> > > BTW, it looked like it came from "Inside" the bell housing. At the
> bottom
> > > there's like a one inch rectangular gap that the water fell from. Now
> what
> > > do you think?
> >
> > It is possible a casting/freeze plug has started to leak. There are two
> > located behind the flywheel. Getting to them require removing the engine
> > so check everything else first.
> >
> > Lots of things look like they come from the bell housing, including oil
> > leaks from the valve cover that look like a leaking rear main seal.
> >
> > Dry all the hose connections and start the engine flex each hose around
> the
> > clamps if there is a small leak it will be real easy to spot. Check for
> > real soft hoses, soft spots, or bulges in the hose.
> >
> > > "William Oliveri" wrote ...
> > >> I'll check them but, If that was the case wouldn't I see it more as the
> jeep
> > >> warms up and gets more water pressure?
> >
> > Yes, but with the engine running what sprays out can evaporate or get
> > blown all over by the engine fan. When the engine is turned off the
> > remaining pressure starts the leak. Some evaporates, some runs back.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
garage in the daylight, and it has been rebuilt, much to my surprise.
Mine had the cam changed as part of it's rebuild because the bottom
right top side 'freeze' plug is new an has sealant on it.
See my 'what kind of cam in my 86 post'.
You had a gas washed engine and your cam looks stock still?????
For that money they didn't replace the cam bearings???????
Please say I am wrong......
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> Here's a pic of the engine before it went in. I see the freeze plugs you're
> talking about.
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engineback.jpg
>
> I looked at all the hoses on a first round and didn't find anything. Now
> it's getting dark so I'll try again tomorrow on a second pass and I'll be
> specifically looking for this as I start the engine.
>
> Could be the freeze plug tightens up as the engine warms thus cutting off
> the flow of liquid escaping.
>
> There's a full warranty on the engine so if he has to pull it for a 2.00
> freeze plug (I'm guessing at the price) then it's on his shoulders.
>
> I'll just be down without a running jeep until it's fixed, if that's the
> problem.
>
> So maybe by NEXT FREAKIN summer I'll have a jeep to drive :-)
>
> Bill
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:xzeqc.53611$Z%5.19676@okepread01...
> > William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> > > BTW, it looked like it came from "Inside" the bell housing. At the
> bottom
> > > there's like a one inch rectangular gap that the water fell from. Now
> what
> > > do you think?
> >
> > It is possible a casting/freeze plug has started to leak. There are two
> > located behind the flywheel. Getting to them require removing the engine
> > so check everything else first.
> >
> > Lots of things look like they come from the bell housing, including oil
> > leaks from the valve cover that look like a leaking rear main seal.
> >
> > Dry all the hose connections and start the engine flex each hose around
> the
> > clamps if there is a small leak it will be real easy to spot. Check for
> > real soft hoses, soft spots, or bulges in the hose.
> >
> > > "William Oliveri" wrote ...
> > >> I'll check them but, If that was the case wouldn't I see it more as the
> jeep
> > >> warms up and gets more water pressure?
> >
> > Yes, but with the engine running what sprays out can evaporate or get
> > blown all over by the engine fan. When the engine is turned off the
> > remaining pressure starts the leak. Some evaporates, some runs back.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
#88
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Re: Just saw radiator water drop by the bell housing
Bill, I just had the first chance to look at my old engine sitting in my
garage in the daylight, and it has been rebuilt, much to my surprise.
Mine had the cam changed as part of it's rebuild because the bottom
right top side 'freeze' plug is new an has sealant on it.
See my 'what kind of cam in my 86 post'.
You had a gas washed engine and your cam looks stock still?????
For that money they didn't replace the cam bearings???????
Please say I am wrong......
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> Here's a pic of the engine before it went in. I see the freeze plugs you're
> talking about.
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engineback.jpg
>
> I looked at all the hoses on a first round and didn't find anything. Now
> it's getting dark so I'll try again tomorrow on a second pass and I'll be
> specifically looking for this as I start the engine.
>
> Could be the freeze plug tightens up as the engine warms thus cutting off
> the flow of liquid escaping.
>
> There's a full warranty on the engine so if he has to pull it for a 2.00
> freeze plug (I'm guessing at the price) then it's on his shoulders.
>
> I'll just be down without a running jeep until it's fixed, if that's the
> problem.
>
> So maybe by NEXT FREAKIN summer I'll have a jeep to drive :-)
>
> Bill
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:xzeqc.53611$Z%5.19676@okepread01...
> > William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> > > BTW, it looked like it came from "Inside" the bell housing. At the
> bottom
> > > there's like a one inch rectangular gap that the water fell from. Now
> what
> > > do you think?
> >
> > It is possible a casting/freeze plug has started to leak. There are two
> > located behind the flywheel. Getting to them require removing the engine
> > so check everything else first.
> >
> > Lots of things look like they come from the bell housing, including oil
> > leaks from the valve cover that look like a leaking rear main seal.
> >
> > Dry all the hose connections and start the engine flex each hose around
> the
> > clamps if there is a small leak it will be real easy to spot. Check for
> > real soft hoses, soft spots, or bulges in the hose.
> >
> > > "William Oliveri" wrote ...
> > >> I'll check them but, If that was the case wouldn't I see it more as the
> jeep
> > >> warms up and gets more water pressure?
> >
> > Yes, but with the engine running what sprays out can evaporate or get
> > blown all over by the engine fan. When the engine is turned off the
> > remaining pressure starts the leak. Some evaporates, some runs back.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
garage in the daylight, and it has been rebuilt, much to my surprise.
Mine had the cam changed as part of it's rebuild because the bottom
right top side 'freeze' plug is new an has sealant on it.
See my 'what kind of cam in my 86 post'.
You had a gas washed engine and your cam looks stock still?????
For that money they didn't replace the cam bearings???????
Please say I am wrong......
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> Here's a pic of the engine before it went in. I see the freeze plugs you're
> talking about.
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engineback.jpg
>
> I looked at all the hoses on a first round and didn't find anything. Now
> it's getting dark so I'll try again tomorrow on a second pass and I'll be
> specifically looking for this as I start the engine.
>
> Could be the freeze plug tightens up as the engine warms thus cutting off
> the flow of liquid escaping.
>
> There's a full warranty on the engine so if he has to pull it for a 2.00
> freeze plug (I'm guessing at the price) then it's on his shoulders.
>
> I'll just be down without a running jeep until it's fixed, if that's the
> problem.
>
> So maybe by NEXT FREAKIN summer I'll have a jeep to drive :-)
>
> Bill
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:xzeqc.53611$Z%5.19676@okepread01...
> > William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> > > BTW, it looked like it came from "Inside" the bell housing. At the
> bottom
> > > there's like a one inch rectangular gap that the water fell from. Now
> what
> > > do you think?
> >
> > It is possible a casting/freeze plug has started to leak. There are two
> > located behind the flywheel. Getting to them require removing the engine
> > so check everything else first.
> >
> > Lots of things look like they come from the bell housing, including oil
> > leaks from the valve cover that look like a leaking rear main seal.
> >
> > Dry all the hose connections and start the engine flex each hose around
> the
> > clamps if there is a small leak it will be real easy to spot. Check for
> > real soft hoses, soft spots, or bulges in the hose.
> >
> > > "William Oliveri" wrote ...
> > >> I'll check them but, If that was the case wouldn't I see it more as the
> jeep
> > >> warms up and gets more water pressure?
> >
> > Yes, but with the engine running what sprays out can evaporate or get
> > blown all over by the engine fan. When the engine is turned off the
> > remaining pressure starts the leak. Some evaporates, some runs back.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
#89
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Re: Just saw radiator water drop by the bell housing
Bill, I just had the first chance to look at my old engine sitting in my
garage in the daylight, and it has been rebuilt, much to my surprise.
Mine had the cam changed as part of it's rebuild because the bottom
right top side 'freeze' plug is new an has sealant on it.
See my 'what kind of cam in my 86 post'.
You had a gas washed engine and your cam looks stock still?????
For that money they didn't replace the cam bearings???????
Please say I am wrong......
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> Here's a pic of the engine before it went in. I see the freeze plugs you're
> talking about.
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engineback.jpg
>
> I looked at all the hoses on a first round and didn't find anything. Now
> it's getting dark so I'll try again tomorrow on a second pass and I'll be
> specifically looking for this as I start the engine.
>
> Could be the freeze plug tightens up as the engine warms thus cutting off
> the flow of liquid escaping.
>
> There's a full warranty on the engine so if he has to pull it for a 2.00
> freeze plug (I'm guessing at the price) then it's on his shoulders.
>
> I'll just be down without a running jeep until it's fixed, if that's the
> problem.
>
> So maybe by NEXT FREAKIN summer I'll have a jeep to drive :-)
>
> Bill
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:xzeqc.53611$Z%5.19676@okepread01...
> > William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> > > BTW, it looked like it came from "Inside" the bell housing. At the
> bottom
> > > there's like a one inch rectangular gap that the water fell from. Now
> what
> > > do you think?
> >
> > It is possible a casting/freeze plug has started to leak. There are two
> > located behind the flywheel. Getting to them require removing the engine
> > so check everything else first.
> >
> > Lots of things look like they come from the bell housing, including oil
> > leaks from the valve cover that look like a leaking rear main seal.
> >
> > Dry all the hose connections and start the engine flex each hose around
> the
> > clamps if there is a small leak it will be real easy to spot. Check for
> > real soft hoses, soft spots, or bulges in the hose.
> >
> > > "William Oliveri" wrote ...
> > >> I'll check them but, If that was the case wouldn't I see it more as the
> jeep
> > >> warms up and gets more water pressure?
> >
> > Yes, but with the engine running what sprays out can evaporate or get
> > blown all over by the engine fan. When the engine is turned off the
> > remaining pressure starts the leak. Some evaporates, some runs back.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
garage in the daylight, and it has been rebuilt, much to my surprise.
Mine had the cam changed as part of it's rebuild because the bottom
right top side 'freeze' plug is new an has sealant on it.
See my 'what kind of cam in my 86 post'.
You had a gas washed engine and your cam looks stock still?????
For that money they didn't replace the cam bearings???????
Please say I am wrong......
Mike
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> Ok,
>
> Here's a pic of the engine before it went in. I see the freeze plugs you're
> talking about.
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engineback.jpg
>
> I looked at all the hoses on a first round and didn't find anything. Now
> it's getting dark so I'll try again tomorrow on a second pass and I'll be
> specifically looking for this as I start the engine.
>
> Could be the freeze plug tightens up as the engine warms thus cutting off
> the flow of liquid escaping.
>
> There's a full warranty on the engine so if he has to pull it for a 2.00
> freeze plug (I'm guessing at the price) then it's on his shoulders.
>
> I'll just be down without a running jeep until it's fixed, if that's the
> problem.
>
> So maybe by NEXT FREAKIN summer I'll have a jeep to drive :-)
>
> Bill
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:xzeqc.53611$Z%5.19676@okepread01...
> > William Oliveri did pass the time by typing:
> > > BTW, it looked like it came from "Inside" the bell housing. At the
> bottom
> > > there's like a one inch rectangular gap that the water fell from. Now
> what
> > > do you think?
> >
> > It is possible a casting/freeze plug has started to leak. There are two
> > located behind the flywheel. Getting to them require removing the engine
> > so check everything else first.
> >
> > Lots of things look like they come from the bell housing, including oil
> > leaks from the valve cover that look like a leaking rear main seal.
> >
> > Dry all the hose connections and start the engine flex each hose around
> the
> > clamps if there is a small leak it will be real easy to spot. Check for
> > real soft hoses, soft spots, or bulges in the hose.
> >
> > > "William Oliveri" wrote ...
> > >> I'll check them but, If that was the case wouldn't I see it more as the
> jeep
> > >> warms up and gets more water pressure?
> >
> > Yes, but with the engine running what sprays out can evaporate or get
> > blown all over by the engine fan. When the engine is turned off the
> > remaining pressure starts the leak. Some evaporates, some runs back.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
> >
> >
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