Mike, just to clarify. Does the "inst lps" fuse also power the tail lights?
This morning, I had no instrument lights, but I did have tail lights. This
would lead me to the dimmer switch if that fuse powers other things, I
think.

Clint

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45366932.74214E5A@sympatico.ca...
> Oops, that dash light fuse is at the top right, not left, sorry and is
> called 'inst lps'.
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> Ok, I will send it off.
>>
>> No, the vanity and dome lights are on a different fuse.
>>
>> The fuse for the dash light is a 5 amp located on the very top left
>> under the hazard flasher relay can.
>>
>> The 'other' fuse for the dash dimmer also controls the tail lights so
>> the dash lights go out when the tail light fuse blows. This is fuse 5
>> or a 10 amp top center of the panel fuse.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Clint wrote:
>> >
>> > If you could e-mail that to me at cneufeld@shaw.ca, I'd appreciate it.
>> > I'll
>> > take a look at the plugs first, and make sure everyone's connected
>> > properly.
>> > That or a fuse would be the most likely, I'd guess. Everything was
>> > working
>> > fine one morning, and dead the next. No middle ground.
>> >
>> > Are the interior lights (vanity lights?) on the same fuse as the
>> > intrument
>> > cluster lights? Because those still work.
>> >
>> > Clint
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:45365A4C.41A8D41D@sympatico.ca...
>> > >I doubt that they all went at once. It is a parallel circuit.
>> > >
>> > > I have the page from my owners manual in jpg format that lists all
>> > > the
>> > > lights on my 88 Cherokee. I could email it to you if you would like.
>> > >
>> > > The 2 lights for the heater control are #74's. I also doubt they are
>> > > both gone, it is usually the plug on them that comes loose or is
>> > > missed
>> > > when it's off.
>> > >
>> > > Mike
>> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> > >
>> > > Clint wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Does anyone know how many bulbs I need? I'd like to find that out
>> > >> BEFORE
>> > >> I
>> > >> pull the dash! :) They indicate that you need 5, but the older ones
>> > >> may
>> > >> need more bulbs. Hmm, now that I think about it, it seems odd that
>> > >> all 5
>> > >> would burn out at once. Or is it possibly just one that burned out,
>> > >> screwing up the circuit for the rest? What is that, a serial
>> > >> circuit?
>> > >>
>> > >> And the page I posted indicated an L194 bulb, but that was for a
>> > >> 91-96
>> > >> Cherokee. Can anyone confirm the kind? I couldn't find it in the
>> > >> FSM.
>> > >>
>> > >> Clint
>> > >>
>> > >> "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.none> wrote in message
>> > >> news:6IdZg.159093$R63.94918@pd7urf1no...
>> > >> > Got in my truck to go to work this morning. Headlights came on
>> > >> > ok,
>> > >> > interior light... But no instrument panel lights.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > So I did some google searching, and found this link:
>> > >> > http://jeepwhitegauges.com/cher9196instructions.htm
>> > >> >
>> > >> > No affliation with the people doing it, but it looks pretty clear
>> > >> > on
>> > >> > how
>> > >> > to take it all apart. This is probably old news for many of you,
>> > >> > but
>> > >> > there's probably newbies like me that need it! :)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Now if I could figure out how to replace the bulb for the
>> > >> > heater/fan
>> > >> > panel...
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Clint
>> > >> >

 

Mike, just to clarify. Does the "inst lps" fuse also power the tail lights?
This morning, I had no instrument lights, but I did have tail lights. This
would lead me to the dimmer switch if that fuse powers other things, I
think.

Clint

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45366932.74214E5A@sympatico.ca...
> Oops, that dash light fuse is at the top right, not left, sorry and is
> called 'inst lps'.
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> Ok, I will send it off.
>>
>> No, the vanity and dome lights are on a different fuse.
>>
>> The fuse for the dash light is a 5 amp located on the very top left
>> under the hazard flasher relay can.
>>
>> The 'other' fuse for the dash dimmer also controls the tail lights so
>> the dash lights go out when the tail light fuse blows. This is fuse 5
>> or a 10 amp top center of the panel fuse.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Clint wrote:
>> >
>> > If you could e-mail that to me at cneufeld@shaw.ca, I'd appreciate it.
>> > I'll
>> > take a look at the plugs first, and make sure everyone's connected
>> > properly.
>> > That or a fuse would be the most likely, I'd guess. Everything was
>> > working
>> > fine one morning, and dead the next. No middle ground.
>> >
>> > Are the interior lights (vanity lights?) on the same fuse as the
>> > intrument
>> > cluster lights? Because those still work.
>> >
>> > Clint
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:45365A4C.41A8D41D@sympatico.ca...
>> > >I doubt that they all went at once. It is a parallel circuit.
>> > >
>> > > I have the page from my owners manual in jpg format that lists all
>> > > the
>> > > lights on my 88 Cherokee. I could email it to you if you would like.
>> > >
>> > > The 2 lights for the heater control are #74's. I also doubt they are
>> > > both gone, it is usually the plug on them that comes loose or is
>> > > missed
>> > > when it's off.
>> > >
>> > > Mike
>> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> > >
>> > > Clint wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Does anyone know how many bulbs I need? I'd like to find that out
>> > >> BEFORE
>> > >> I
>> > >> pull the dash! :) They indicate that you need 5, but the older ones
>> > >> may
>> > >> need more bulbs. Hmm, now that I think about it, it seems odd that
>> > >> all 5
>> > >> would burn out at once. Or is it possibly just one that burned out,
>> > >> screwing up the circuit for the rest? What is that, a serial
>> > >> circuit?
>> > >>
>> > >> And the page I posted indicated an L194 bulb, but that was for a
>> > >> 91-96
>> > >> Cherokee. Can anyone confirm the kind? I couldn't find it in the
>> > >> FSM.
>> > >>
>> > >> Clint
>> > >>
>> > >> "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.none> wrote in message
>> > >> news:6IdZg.159093$R63.94918@pd7urf1no...
>> > >> > Got in my truck to go to work this morning. Headlights came on
>> > >> > ok,
>> > >> > interior light... But no instrument panel lights.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > So I did some google searching, and found this link:
>> > >> > http://jeepwhitegauges.com/cher9196instructions.htm
>> > >> >
>> > >> > No affliation with the people doing it, but it looks pretty clear
>> > >> > on
>> > >> > how
>> > >> > to take it all apart. This is probably old news for many of you,
>> > >> > but
>> > >> > there's probably newbies like me that need it! :)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Now if I could figure out how to replace the bulb for the
>> > >> > heater/fan
>> > >> > panel...
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Clint
>> > >> >

 

Mike, just to clarify. Does the "inst lps" fuse also power the tail lights?
This morning, I had no instrument lights, but I did have tail lights. This
would lead me to the dimmer switch if that fuse powers other things, I
think.

Clint

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45366932.74214E5A@sympatico.ca...
> Oops, that dash light fuse is at the top right, not left, sorry and is
> called 'inst lps'.
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> Ok, I will send it off.
>>
>> No, the vanity and dome lights are on a different fuse.
>>
>> The fuse for the dash light is a 5 amp located on the very top left
>> under the hazard flasher relay can.
>>
>> The 'other' fuse for the dash dimmer also controls the tail lights so
>> the dash lights go out when the tail light fuse blows. This is fuse 5
>> or a 10 amp top center of the panel fuse.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Clint wrote:
>> >
>> > If you could e-mail that to me at cneufeld@shaw.ca, I'd appreciate it.
>> > I'll
>> > take a look at the plugs first, and make sure everyone's connected
>> > properly.
>> > That or a fuse would be the most likely, I'd guess. Everything was
>> > working
>> > fine one morning, and dead the next. No middle ground.
>> >
>> > Are the interior lights (vanity lights?) on the same fuse as the
>> > intrument
>> > cluster lights? Because those still work.
>> >
>> > Clint
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:45365A4C.41A8D41D@sympatico.ca...
>> > >I doubt that they all went at once. It is a parallel circuit.
>> > >
>> > > I have the page from my owners manual in jpg format that lists all
>> > > the
>> > > lights on my 88 Cherokee. I could email it to you if you would like.
>> > >
>> > > The 2 lights for the heater control are #74's. I also doubt they are
>> > > both gone, it is usually the plug on them that comes loose or is
>> > > missed
>> > > when it's off.
>> > >
>> > > Mike
>> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> > >
>> > > Clint wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Does anyone know how many bulbs I need? I'd like to find that out
>> > >> BEFORE
>> > >> I
>> > >> pull the dash! :) They indicate that you need 5, but the older ones
>> > >> may
>> > >> need more bulbs. Hmm, now that I think about it, it seems odd that
>> > >> all 5
>> > >> would burn out at once. Or is it possibly just one that burned out,
>> > >> screwing up the circuit for the rest? What is that, a serial
>> > >> circuit?
>> > >>
>> > >> And the page I posted indicated an L194 bulb, but that was for a
>> > >> 91-96
>> > >> Cherokee. Can anyone confirm the kind? I couldn't find it in the
>> > >> FSM.
>> > >>
>> > >> Clint
>> > >>
>> > >> "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.none> wrote in message
>> > >> news:6IdZg.159093$R63.94918@pd7urf1no...
>> > >> > Got in my truck to go to work this morning. Headlights came on
>> > >> > ok,
>> > >> > interior light... But no instrument panel lights.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > So I did some google searching, and found this link:
>> > >> > http://jeepwhitegauges.com/cher9196instructions.htm
>> > >> >
>> > >> > No affliation with the people doing it, but it looks pretty clear
>> > >> > on
>> > >> > how
>> > >> > to take it all apart. This is probably old news for many of you,
>> > >> > but
>> > >> > there's probably newbies like me that need it! :)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Now if I could figure out how to replace the bulb for the
>> > >> > heater/fan
>> > >> > panel...
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Clint
>> > >> >

 

Thanks. BTW, the lights were off again this morning... I'm thinking of
starting with the dimmer switch.

Clint

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:5962e$4536f382$422afc51$1987@FUSE.NET...
> Check your grounds, Remember cables have 2 ends...
>
>
> "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.none> wrote in message
> news:DiCZg.162454$R63.96796@pd7urf1no...
>> Ok, so this is annoying. Went to head home today, after a long day (dark
>> when I went to work, dark when I went home. Daylight some-time between).
>> Fired up the truck, turned on the headlights, and the instrument cluster
>> lights came on. So that eliminates the fuse or the lights... I HATE
>> intermittant problems!
>>
>> I guess I'm off to yank the fuses, and try to clean the contacts, as Will
>> suggested.
>>
>> Clint
>>
>> "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.non> wrote in message
>> news:4qsZg.70151$E67.35719@clgrps13...
>>> Does anyone know how many bulbs I need? I'd like to find that out
>>> BEFORE I pull the dash! :) They indicate that you need 5, but the older
>>> ones may need more bulbs. Hmm, now that I think about it, it seems odd
>>> that all 5 would burn out at once. Or is it possibly just one that
>>> burned out, screwing up the circuit for the rest? What is that, a
>>> serial circuit?
>>>
>>> And the page I posted indicated an L194 bulb, but that was for a 91-96
>>> Cherokee. Can anyone confirm the kind? I couldn't find it in the FSM.
>>>
>>> Clint
>>>
>>> "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.none> wrote in message
>>> news:6IdZg.159093$R63.94918@pd7urf1no...
>>>> Got in my truck to go to work this morning. Headlights came on ok,
>>>> interior light... But no instrument panel lights.
>>>>
>>>> So I did some google searching, and found this link:
>>>> http://jeepwhitegauges.com/cher9196instructions.htm
>>>>
>>>> No affliation with the people doing it, but it looks pretty clear on
>>>> how to take it all apart. This is probably old news for many of you,
>>>> but there's probably newbies like me that need it! :)
>>>>
>>>> Now if I could figure out how to replace the bulb for the heater/fan
>>>> panel...
>>>>
>>>> Clint
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

Thanks. BTW, the lights were off again this morning... I'm thinking of
starting with the dimmer switch.

Clint

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:5962e$4536f382$422afc51$1987@FUSE.NET...
> Check your grounds, Remember cables have 2 ends...
>
>
> "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.none> wrote in message
> news:DiCZg.162454$R63.96796@pd7urf1no...
>> Ok, so this is annoying. Went to head home today, after a long day (dark
>> when I went to work, dark when I went home. Daylight some-time between).
>> Fired up the truck, turned on the headlights, and the instrument cluster
>> lights came on. So that eliminates the fuse or the lights... I HATE
>> intermittant problems!
>>
>> I guess I'm off to yank the fuses, and try to clean the contacts, as Will
>> suggested.
>>
>> Clint
>>
>> "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.non> wrote in message
>> news:4qsZg.70151$E67.35719@clgrps13...
>>> Does anyone know how many bulbs I need? I'd like to find that out
>>> BEFORE I pull the dash! :) They indicate that you need 5, but the older
>>> ones may need more bulbs. Hmm, now that I think about it, it seems odd
>>> that all 5 would burn out at once. Or is it possibly just one that
>>> burned out, screwing up the circuit for the rest? What is that, a
>>> serial circuit?
>>>
>>> And the page I posted indicated an L194 bulb, but that was for a 91-96
>>> Cherokee. Can anyone confirm the kind? I couldn't find it in the FSM.
>>>
>>> Clint
>>>
>>> "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.none> wrote in message
>>> news:6IdZg.159093$R63.94918@pd7urf1no...
>>>> Got in my truck to go to work this morning. Headlights came on ok,
>>>> interior light... But no instrument panel lights.
>>>>
>>>> So I did some google searching, and found this link:
>>>> http://jeepwhitegauges.com/cher9196instructions.htm
>>>>
>>>> No affliation with the people doing it, but it looks pretty clear on
>>>> how to take it all apart. This is probably old news for many of you,
>>>> but there's probably newbies like me that need it! :)
>>>>
>>>> Now if I could figure out how to replace the bulb for the heater/fan
>>>> panel...
>>>>
>>>> Clint
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

Thanks. BTW, the lights were off again this morning... I'm thinking of
starting with the dimmer switch.

Clint

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:5962e$4536f382$422afc51$1987@FUSE.NET...
> Check your grounds, Remember cables have 2 ends...
>
>
> "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.none> wrote in message
> news:DiCZg.162454$R63.96796@pd7urf1no...
>> Ok, so this is annoying. Went to head home today, after a long day (dark
>> when I went to work, dark when I went home. Daylight some-time between).
>> Fired up the truck, turned on the headlights, and the instrument cluster
>> lights came on. So that eliminates the fuse or the lights... I HATE
>> intermittant problems!
>>
>> I guess I'm off to yank the fuses, and try to clean the contacts, as Will
>> suggested.
>>
>> Clint
>>
>> "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.non> wrote in message
>> news:4qsZg.70151$E67.35719@clgrps13...
>>> Does anyone know how many bulbs I need? I'd like to find that out
>>> BEFORE I pull the dash! :) They indicate that you need 5, but the older
>>> ones may need more bulbs. Hmm, now that I think about it, it seems odd
>>> that all 5 would burn out at once. Or is it possibly just one that
>>> burned out, screwing up the circuit for the rest? What is that, a
>>> serial circuit?
>>>
>>> And the page I posted indicated an L194 bulb, but that was for a 91-96
>>> Cherokee. Can anyone confirm the kind? I couldn't find it in the FSM.
>>>
>>> Clint
>>>
>>> "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.none> wrote in message
>>> news:6IdZg.159093$R63.94918@pd7urf1no...
>>>> Got in my truck to go to work this morning. Headlights came on ok,
>>>> interior light... But no instrument panel lights.
>>>>
>>>> So I did some google searching, and found this link:
>>>> http://jeepwhitegauges.com/cher9196instructions.htm
>>>>
>>>> No affliation with the people doing it, but it looks pretty clear on
>>>> how to take it all apart. This is probably old news for many of you,
>>>> but there's probably newbies like me that need it! :)
>>>>
>>>> Now if I could figure out how to replace the bulb for the heater/fan
>>>> panel...
>>>>
>>>> Clint
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

The tail lights and the dimmer are on the same fuse. The dash lights
also have their own.

If it was a fuse issue, I would be looking to that 'inst lps' fuse, not
the tail light/dimmer fuse.

Mike

Clint wrote:
>
> Mike, just to clarify. Does the "inst lps" fuse also power the tail lights?
> This morning, I had no instrument lights, but I did have tail lights. This
> would lead me to the dimmer switch if that fuse powers other things, I
> think.
>
> Clint
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45366932.74214E5A@sympatico.ca...
> > Oops, that dash light fuse is at the top right, not left, sorry and is
> > called 'inst lps'.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, I will send it off.
> >>
> >> No, the vanity and dome lights are on a different fuse.
> >>
> >> The fuse for the dash light is a 5 amp located on the very top left
> >> under the hazard flasher relay can.
> >>
> >> The 'other' fuse for the dash dimmer also controls the tail lights so
> >> the dash lights go out when the tail light fuse blows. This is fuse 5
> >> or a 10 amp top center of the panel fuse.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Clint wrote:
> >> >
> >> > If you could e-mail that to me at cneufeld@shaw.ca, I'd appreciate it.
> >> > I'll
> >> > take a look at the plugs first, and make sure everyone's connected
> >> > properly.
> >> > That or a fuse would be the most likely, I'd guess. Everything was
> >> > working
> >> > fine one morning, and dead the next. No middle ground.
> >> >
> >> > Are the interior lights (vanity lights?) on the same fuse as the
> >> > intrument
> >> > cluster lights? Because those still work.
> >> >
> >> > Clint
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:45365A4C.41A8D41D@sympatico.ca...
> >> > >I doubt that they all went at once. It is a parallel circuit.
> >> > >
> >> > > I have the page from my owners manual in jpg format that lists all
> >> > > the
> >> > > lights on my 88 Cherokee. I could email it to you if you would like.
> >> > >
> >> > > The 2 lights for the heater control are #74's. I also doubt they are
> >> > > both gone, it is usually the plug on them that comes loose or is
> >> > > missed
> >> > > when it's off.
> >> > >
> >> > > Mike
> >> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> > >
> >> > > Clint wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Does anyone know how many bulbs I need? I'd like to find that out
> >> > >> BEFORE
> >> > >> I
> >> > >> pull the dash! :) They indicate that you need 5, but the older ones
> >> > >> may
> >> > >> need more bulbs. Hmm, now that I think about it, it seems odd that
> >> > >> all 5
> >> > >> would burn out at once. Or is it possibly just one that burned out,
> >> > >> screwing up the circuit for the rest? What is that, a serial
> >> > >> circuit?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> And the page I posted indicated an L194 bulb, but that was for a
> >> > >> 91-96
> >> > >> Cherokee. Can anyone confirm the kind? I couldn't find it in the
> >> > >> FSM.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Clint
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.none> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:6IdZg.159093$R63.94918@pd7urf1no...
> >> > >> > Got in my truck to go to work this morning. Headlights came on
> >> > >> > ok,
> >> > >> > interior light... But no instrument panel lights.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > So I did some google searching, and found this link:
> >> > >> > http://jeepwhitegauges.com/cher9196instructions.htm
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > No affliation with the people doing it, but it looks pretty clear
> >> > >> > on
> >> > >> > how
> >> > >> > to take it all apart. This is probably old news for many of you,
> >> > >> > but
> >> > >> > there's probably newbies like me that need it! :)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Now if I could figure out how to replace the bulb for the
> >> > >> > heater/fan
> >> > >> > panel...
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Clint
> >> > >> >

 

The tail lights and the dimmer are on the same fuse. The dash lights
also have their own.

If it was a fuse issue, I would be looking to that 'inst lps' fuse, not
the tail light/dimmer fuse.

Mike

Clint wrote:
>
> Mike, just to clarify. Does the "inst lps" fuse also power the tail lights?
> This morning, I had no instrument lights, but I did have tail lights. This
> would lead me to the dimmer switch if that fuse powers other things, I
> think.
>
> Clint
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45366932.74214E5A@sympatico.ca...
> > Oops, that dash light fuse is at the top right, not left, sorry and is
> > called 'inst lps'.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, I will send it off.
> >>
> >> No, the vanity and dome lights are on a different fuse.
> >>
> >> The fuse for the dash light is a 5 amp located on the very top left
> >> under the hazard flasher relay can.
> >>
> >> The 'other' fuse for the dash dimmer also controls the tail lights so
> >> the dash lights go out when the tail light fuse blows. This is fuse 5
> >> or a 10 amp top center of the panel fuse.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Clint wrote:
> >> >
> >> > If you could e-mail that to me at cneufeld@shaw.ca, I'd appreciate it.
> >> > I'll
> >> > take a look at the plugs first, and make sure everyone's connected
> >> > properly.
> >> > That or a fuse would be the most likely, I'd guess. Everything was
> >> > working
> >> > fine one morning, and dead the next. No middle ground.
> >> >
> >> > Are the interior lights (vanity lights?) on the same fuse as the
> >> > intrument
> >> > cluster lights? Because those still work.
> >> >
> >> > Clint
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:45365A4C.41A8D41D@sympatico.ca...
> >> > >I doubt that they all went at once. It is a parallel circuit.
> >> > >
> >> > > I have the page from my owners manual in jpg format that lists all
> >> > > the
> >> > > lights on my 88 Cherokee. I could email it to you if you would like.
> >> > >
> >> > > The 2 lights for the heater control are #74's. I also doubt they are
> >> > > both gone, it is usually the plug on them that comes loose or is
> >> > > missed
> >> > > when it's off.
> >> > >
> >> > > Mike
> >> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> > >
> >> > > Clint wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Does anyone know how many bulbs I need? I'd like to find that out
> >> > >> BEFORE
> >> > >> I
> >> > >> pull the dash! :) They indicate that you need 5, but the older ones
> >> > >> may
> >> > >> need more bulbs. Hmm, now that I think about it, it seems odd that
> >> > >> all 5
> >> > >> would burn out at once. Or is it possibly just one that burned out,
> >> > >> screwing up the circuit for the rest? What is that, a serial
> >> > >> circuit?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> And the page I posted indicated an L194 bulb, but that was for a
> >> > >> 91-96
> >> > >> Cherokee. Can anyone confirm the kind? I couldn't find it in the
> >> > >> FSM.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Clint
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.none> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:6IdZg.159093$R63.94918@pd7urf1no...
> >> > >> > Got in my truck to go to work this morning. Headlights came on
> >> > >> > ok,
> >> > >> > interior light... But no instrument panel lights.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > So I did some google searching, and found this link:
> >> > >> > http://jeepwhitegauges.com/cher9196instructions.htm
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > No affliation with the people doing it, but it looks pretty clear
> >> > >> > on
> >> > >> > how
> >> > >> > to take it all apart. This is probably old news for many of you,
> >> > >> > but
> >> > >> > there's probably newbies like me that need it! :)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Now if I could figure out how to replace the bulb for the
> >> > >> > heater/fan
> >> > >> > panel...
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Clint
> >> > >> >

 

The tail lights and the dimmer are on the same fuse. The dash lights
also have their own.

If it was a fuse issue, I would be looking to that 'inst lps' fuse, not
the tail light/dimmer fuse.

Mike

Clint wrote:
>
> Mike, just to clarify. Does the "inst lps" fuse also power the tail lights?
> This morning, I had no instrument lights, but I did have tail lights. This
> would lead me to the dimmer switch if that fuse powers other things, I
> think.
>
> Clint
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45366932.74214E5A@sympatico.ca...
> > Oops, that dash light fuse is at the top right, not left, sorry and is
> > called 'inst lps'.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, I will send it off.
> >>
> >> No, the vanity and dome lights are on a different fuse.
> >>
> >> The fuse for the dash light is a 5 amp located on the very top left
> >> under the hazard flasher relay can.
> >>
> >> The 'other' fuse for the dash dimmer also controls the tail lights so
> >> the dash lights go out when the tail light fuse blows. This is fuse 5
> >> or a 10 amp top center of the panel fuse.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Clint wrote:
> >> >
> >> > If you could e-mail that to me at cneufeld@shaw.ca, I'd appreciate it.
> >> > I'll
> >> > take a look at the plugs first, and make sure everyone's connected
> >> > properly.
> >> > That or a fuse would be the most likely, I'd guess. Everything was
> >> > working
> >> > fine one morning, and dead the next. No middle ground.
> >> >
> >> > Are the interior lights (vanity lights?) on the same fuse as the
> >> > intrument
> >> > cluster lights? Because those still work.
> >> >
> >> > Clint
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:45365A4C.41A8D41D@sympatico.ca...
> >> > >I doubt that they all went at once. It is a parallel circuit.
> >> > >
> >> > > I have the page from my owners manual in jpg format that lists all
> >> > > the
> >> > > lights on my 88 Cherokee. I could email it to you if you would like.
> >> > >
> >> > > The 2 lights for the heater control are #74's. I also doubt they are
> >> > > both gone, it is usually the plug on them that comes loose or is
> >> > > missed
> >> > > when it's off.
> >> > >
> >> > > Mike
> >> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> > >
> >> > > Clint wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Does anyone know how many bulbs I need? I'd like to find that out
> >> > >> BEFORE
> >> > >> I
> >> > >> pull the dash! :) They indicate that you need 5, but the older ones
> >> > >> may
> >> > >> need more bulbs. Hmm, now that I think about it, it seems odd that
> >> > >> all 5
> >> > >> would burn out at once. Or is it possibly just one that burned out,
> >> > >> screwing up the circuit for the rest? What is that, a serial
> >> > >> circuit?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> And the page I posted indicated an L194 bulb, but that was for a
> >> > >> 91-96
> >> > >> Cherokee. Can anyone confirm the kind? I couldn't find it in the
> >> > >> FSM.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Clint
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.none> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:6IdZg.159093$R63.94918@pd7urf1no...
> >> > >> > Got in my truck to go to work this morning. Headlights came on
> >> > >> > ok,
> >> > >> > interior light... But no instrument panel lights.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > So I did some google searching, and found this link:
> >> > >> > http://jeepwhitegauges.com/cher9196instructions.htm
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > No affliation with the people doing it, but it looks pretty clear
> >> > >> > on
> >> > >> > how
> >> > >> > to take it all apart. This is probably old news for many of you,
> >> > >> > but
> >> > >> > there's probably newbies like me that need it! :)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Now if I could figure out how to replace the bulb for the
> >> > >> > heater/fan
> >> > >> > panel...
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Clint
> >> > >> >

 

That sounds more an more like what I had - works for a while, then decides
to go AWOL util it just feels like working again. Part of what I saw makes
me think that this is pretty much a case of corroded connections behind the
panel (located under the dash on the firewall above and left of the clutch
pedal where it's easy to hit with your foot if your feet are as big as
mine<g>). The wiring diagram shows that the emergency flashers and the
brake lights are powered by two wires that connect to the brake fuse. I
had one of those wires hot, one dead so there had to be a connection
problem there somewhere. If you ever have a clutch master go out, it will
leak right down on the fuse block and cause all sorts of grief -
eventually.

I'm like you - Ocam's razor says dimmer rheostat. But cleaning up the fuse
block is cheap and easy as a second step. BTW, I did replace all my
instrument bulbs when I first got the truck. One or two were out, but the
rest were so silvered that I doubt half the light was getting out anyway.
Just don't lose the lamp holders - those suckers can be a pain to find!

Clint wrote:

> Thanks, Will. I'll maybe see about picking up a can of whatever that
> magic
> stuff is for electrical contacts and water-purging. Or does WD-40 work as
> well as anything?
>
> I haven't had any issues with the fuses or electrical stuff, to the point
> that I'll have to go looking for the fuse box. Don't think I kick it on a
> regular basis or anything, either. I did have to replace 3 or 4 when I
> first got the Jeep about 2 years ago, but those were just crappy
> maintenance
> on the previous owner's part, I think. Some of them were totally mangled.
> Or maybe it was like you say, and someone kicked them by accident.
>
> Clint
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-tLXtEfhJ7lru@anon.none.net...
>>I have the same problem with my 88 Comanche - to the point of
>> finishing the last 100 miles of a long trip with a flashlight. I
>> changed the fuse and it worked for a while then started to being
>> intermittent again. AHA! corrosion in a connector - but where? In
>> the past, the simple resolution was the blasted dimmer rheostat on
>> the light switch but this time the dimmer was fine. I fought it for
>> quite a while then my emergency flashers quit and the brake lights got
>> flakey as well. If you look, the brake light and panel light fuses
>> are right together near the top of the fuse block so that focused
>> things for me. I took a can of WD-40, covered the floor with rags and
>> removed the fuses from the top right quadrant of the fuse block,
>> sprayed the whole thing (soaked it, actually) and used a toothbrush to
>> scrub the fuse panel as best I could. Inserted and removed the fuses
>> while it was still wet, then used the air hose to blow everything dry.
>> The sweet smell of WD-40 was annoying for a few days, but that seems
>> to have fixed things for a while - no problems for the last several
>> months. Probably waiting for a snowy, sub-zero day to act up again...
>>
>>
>> The next step is probably to pull the fuse panel and either replace it
>> or do a thorough clean up. I don't know about yours, but my fuse
>> panel could sure use a cover - I keep kicking it somehow and several
>> fuses always seem to have the plastic tops broken.
>>
>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:39:35 UTC "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.none> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, I could have mentioned my truck is an 88 Jeep Comanche.
>>>
>>> BTW, two weeks after swapping the coolant overflow tank, and no
>>> overheating
>>> *knock on wood*. Still choked about $100 for a plastic bottle, but hey,
>>> at
>>> least it solved the problem.
>>>
>>> Clint
>>>
>>> "Clint" <nobody@nowhere.none> wrote in message
>>> news:6IdZg.159093$R63.94918@pd7urf1no...
>>> > Got in my truck to go to work this morning. Headlights came on ok,
>>> > interior light... But no instrument panel lights.
>>> >
>>> > So I did some google searching, and found this link:
>>> > http://jeepwhitegauges.com/cher9196instructions.htm
>>> >
>>> > No affliation with the people doing it, but it looks pretty clear on
>>> > how
>>> > to take it all apart. This is probably old news for many of you, but
>>> > there's probably newbies like me that need it! :)
>>> >
>>> > Now if I could figure out how to replace the bulb for the heater/fan
>>> > panel...
>>> >
>>> > Clint
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Will Honea

--
Will Honea