Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
11-11-2007, 09:16 PM
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Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
I have a Jeep 88 Wrangler that stalled out in about 3 feet of muddy
water last week. I did not have water come in through the air intake,
but I did have water enter the transmission. I drove home (60 miles)
and immediately drained the engine oil, transmission oil, transfer
case, and diffs. There was a strange noise, kind of like a strange
rubbing noise on the way home, and I attributed it to the clutch as it
seemed to come and go as I pressed and released the clutch pedal. I
removed the transmission to inspect the clutch (seemed fine) and to
completely drain it by tipping it on its end. The fluid was milky
looking and definately contaminated with water. I reinstalled both
diff covers and filled the engine oil and changed the oil filter. It
was a long night after a fun day of wheelin.
Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
budge it into gear. It felt that the shifter was still centered in
neutral. I could move the shifter laterally to the right where it is
in position to go into 5th or Reverse. I could not move it laterally
to the left at all. Well after struggling with tying to shift it into
gear (it wil not budge at all, no grinding noises, just will not
shift) I realized the transfer case was in neutral. I shifted the
case into 2H and released the clutch, and realized the Jeep is in
gear. The jeep moved forward. I do not understand how I could have
lateral movement in the shifter while being stuck in a gear. I also
do not understand why my transmission shifting is seized up, other
than contamination, and maybe the fact I let it sit for a week with no
fluid. The transmission also has a light clicking sound internally,
but I can not pinpoint it.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Will
water last week. I did not have water come in through the air intake,
but I did have water enter the transmission. I drove home (60 miles)
and immediately drained the engine oil, transmission oil, transfer
case, and diffs. There was a strange noise, kind of like a strange
rubbing noise on the way home, and I attributed it to the clutch as it
seemed to come and go as I pressed and released the clutch pedal. I
removed the transmission to inspect the clutch (seemed fine) and to
completely drain it by tipping it on its end. The fluid was milky
looking and definately contaminated with water. I reinstalled both
diff covers and filled the engine oil and changed the oil filter. It
was a long night after a fun day of wheelin.
Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
budge it into gear. It felt that the shifter was still centered in
neutral. I could move the shifter laterally to the right where it is
in position to go into 5th or Reverse. I could not move it laterally
to the left at all. Well after struggling with tying to shift it into
gear (it wil not budge at all, no grinding noises, just will not
shift) I realized the transfer case was in neutral. I shifted the
case into 2H and released the clutch, and realized the Jeep is in
gear. The jeep moved forward. I do not understand how I could have
lateral movement in the shifter while being stuck in a gear. I also
do not understand why my transmission shifting is seized up, other
than contamination, and maybe the fact I let it sit for a week with no
fluid. The transmission also has a light clicking sound internally,
but I can not pinpoint it.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Will
11-11-2007, 09:50 PM
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Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
It's in gear, as you know, pull shift lever again and slide that rail
back into the neutral position:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AX15shiftArm.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
<wbowlin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194833809.450084.50590@c30g2000hsa.googlegro ups.com...
> I have a Jeep 88 Wrangler that stalled out in about 3 feet of muddy
> water last week. I did not have water come in through the air intake,
> but I did have water enter the transmission. I drove home (60 miles)
> and immediately drained the engine oil, transmission oil, transfer
> case, and diffs. There was a strange noise, kind of like a strange
> rubbing noise on the way home, and I attributed it to the clutch as it
> seemed to come and go as I pressed and released the clutch pedal. I
> removed the transmission to inspect the clutch (seemed fine) and to
> completely drain it by tipping it on its end. The fluid was milky
> looking and definately contaminated with water. I reinstalled both
> diff covers and filled the engine oil and changed the oil filter. It
> was a long night after a fun day of wheelin.
>
> Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
> transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
> etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
> budge it into gear. It felt that the shifter was still centered in
> neutral. I could move the shifter laterally to the right where it is
> in position to go into 5th or Reverse. I could not move it laterally
> to the left at all. Well after struggling with tying to shift it into
> gear (it wil not budge at all, no grinding noises, just will not
> shift) I realized the transfer case was in neutral. I shifted the
> case into 2H and released the clutch, and realized the Jeep is in
> gear. The jeep moved forward. I do not understand how I could have
> lateral movement in the shifter while being stuck in a gear. I also
> do not understand why my transmission shifting is seized up, other
> than contamination, and maybe the fact I let it sit for a week with no
> fluid. The transmission also has a light clicking sound internally,
> but I can not pinpoint it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Will
>
--
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back into the neutral position:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AX15shiftArm.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
<wbowlin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194833809.450084.50590@c30g2000hsa.googlegro ups.com...
> I have a Jeep 88 Wrangler that stalled out in about 3 feet of muddy
> water last week. I did not have water come in through the air intake,
> but I did have water enter the transmission. I drove home (60 miles)
> and immediately drained the engine oil, transmission oil, transfer
> case, and diffs. There was a strange noise, kind of like a strange
> rubbing noise on the way home, and I attributed it to the clutch as it
> seemed to come and go as I pressed and released the clutch pedal. I
> removed the transmission to inspect the clutch (seemed fine) and to
> completely drain it by tipping it on its end. The fluid was milky
> looking and definately contaminated with water. I reinstalled both
> diff covers and filled the engine oil and changed the oil filter. It
> was a long night after a fun day of wheelin.
>
> Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
> transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
> etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
> budge it into gear. It felt that the shifter was still centered in
> neutral. I could move the shifter laterally to the right where it is
> in position to go into 5th or Reverse. I could not move it laterally
> to the left at all. Well after struggling with tying to shift it into
> gear (it wil not budge at all, no grinding noises, just will not
> shift) I realized the transfer case was in neutral. I shifted the
> case into 2H and released the clutch, and realized the Jeep is in
> gear. The jeep moved forward. I do not understand how I could have
> lateral movement in the shifter while being stuck in a gear. I also
> do not understand why my transmission shifting is seized up, other
> than contamination, and maybe the fact I let it sit for a week with no
> fluid. The transmission also has a light clicking sound internally,
> but I can not pinpoint it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Will
>
--
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11-11-2007, 09:50 PM
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Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
It's in gear, as you know, pull shift lever again and slide that rail
back into the neutral position:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AX15shiftArm.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
<wbowlin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194833809.450084.50590@c30g2000hsa.googlegro ups.com...
> I have a Jeep 88 Wrangler that stalled out in about 3 feet of muddy
> water last week. I did not have water come in through the air intake,
> but I did have water enter the transmission. I drove home (60 miles)
> and immediately drained the engine oil, transmission oil, transfer
> case, and diffs. There was a strange noise, kind of like a strange
> rubbing noise on the way home, and I attributed it to the clutch as it
> seemed to come and go as I pressed and released the clutch pedal. I
> removed the transmission to inspect the clutch (seemed fine) and to
> completely drain it by tipping it on its end. The fluid was milky
> looking and definately contaminated with water. I reinstalled both
> diff covers and filled the engine oil and changed the oil filter. It
> was a long night after a fun day of wheelin.
>
> Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
> transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
> etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
> budge it into gear. It felt that the shifter was still centered in
> neutral. I could move the shifter laterally to the right where it is
> in position to go into 5th or Reverse. I could not move it laterally
> to the left at all. Well after struggling with tying to shift it into
> gear (it wil not budge at all, no grinding noises, just will not
> shift) I realized the transfer case was in neutral. I shifted the
> case into 2H and released the clutch, and realized the Jeep is in
> gear. The jeep moved forward. I do not understand how I could have
> lateral movement in the shifter while being stuck in a gear. I also
> do not understand why my transmission shifting is seized up, other
> than contamination, and maybe the fact I let it sit for a week with no
> fluid. The transmission also has a light clicking sound internally,
> but I can not pinpoint it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Will
>
--
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back into the neutral position:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AX15shiftArm.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
<wbowlin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194833809.450084.50590@c30g2000hsa.googlegro ups.com...
> I have a Jeep 88 Wrangler that stalled out in about 3 feet of muddy
> water last week. I did not have water come in through the air intake,
> but I did have water enter the transmission. I drove home (60 miles)
> and immediately drained the engine oil, transmission oil, transfer
> case, and diffs. There was a strange noise, kind of like a strange
> rubbing noise on the way home, and I attributed it to the clutch as it
> seemed to come and go as I pressed and released the clutch pedal. I
> removed the transmission to inspect the clutch (seemed fine) and to
> completely drain it by tipping it on its end. The fluid was milky
> looking and definately contaminated with water. I reinstalled both
> diff covers and filled the engine oil and changed the oil filter. It
> was a long night after a fun day of wheelin.
>
> Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
> transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
> etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
> budge it into gear. It felt that the shifter was still centered in
> neutral. I could move the shifter laterally to the right where it is
> in position to go into 5th or Reverse. I could not move it laterally
> to the left at all. Well after struggling with tying to shift it into
> gear (it wil not budge at all, no grinding noises, just will not
> shift) I realized the transfer case was in neutral. I shifted the
> case into 2H and released the clutch, and realized the Jeep is in
> gear. The jeep moved forward. I do not understand how I could have
> lateral movement in the shifter while being stuck in a gear. I also
> do not understand why my transmission shifting is seized up, other
> than contamination, and maybe the fact I let it sit for a week with no
> fluid. The transmission also has a light clicking sound internally,
> but I can not pinpoint it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Will
>
--
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11-11-2007, 09:50 PM
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Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
It's in gear, as you know, pull shift lever again and slide that rail
back into the neutral position:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AX15shiftArm.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
<wbowlin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194833809.450084.50590@c30g2000hsa.googlegro ups.com...
> I have a Jeep 88 Wrangler that stalled out in about 3 feet of muddy
> water last week. I did not have water come in through the air intake,
> but I did have water enter the transmission. I drove home (60 miles)
> and immediately drained the engine oil, transmission oil, transfer
> case, and diffs. There was a strange noise, kind of like a strange
> rubbing noise on the way home, and I attributed it to the clutch as it
> seemed to come and go as I pressed and released the clutch pedal. I
> removed the transmission to inspect the clutch (seemed fine) and to
> completely drain it by tipping it on its end. The fluid was milky
> looking and definately contaminated with water. I reinstalled both
> diff covers and filled the engine oil and changed the oil filter. It
> was a long night after a fun day of wheelin.
>
> Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
> transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
> etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
> budge it into gear. It felt that the shifter was still centered in
> neutral. I could move the shifter laterally to the right where it is
> in position to go into 5th or Reverse. I could not move it laterally
> to the left at all. Well after struggling with tying to shift it into
> gear (it wil not budge at all, no grinding noises, just will not
> shift) I realized the transfer case was in neutral. I shifted the
> case into 2H and released the clutch, and realized the Jeep is in
> gear. The jeep moved forward. I do not understand how I could have
> lateral movement in the shifter while being stuck in a gear. I also
> do not understand why my transmission shifting is seized up, other
> than contamination, and maybe the fact I let it sit for a week with no
> fluid. The transmission also has a light clicking sound internally,
> but I can not pinpoint it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Will
>
--
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back into the neutral position:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AX15shiftArm.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
<wbowlin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194833809.450084.50590@c30g2000hsa.googlegro ups.com...
> I have a Jeep 88 Wrangler that stalled out in about 3 feet of muddy
> water last week. I did not have water come in through the air intake,
> but I did have water enter the transmission. I drove home (60 miles)
> and immediately drained the engine oil, transmission oil, transfer
> case, and diffs. There was a strange noise, kind of like a strange
> rubbing noise on the way home, and I attributed it to the clutch as it
> seemed to come and go as I pressed and released the clutch pedal. I
> removed the transmission to inspect the clutch (seemed fine) and to
> completely drain it by tipping it on its end. The fluid was milky
> looking and definately contaminated with water. I reinstalled both
> diff covers and filled the engine oil and changed the oil filter. It
> was a long night after a fun day of wheelin.
>
> Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
> transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
> etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
> budge it into gear. It felt that the shifter was still centered in
> neutral. I could move the shifter laterally to the right where it is
> in position to go into 5th or Reverse. I could not move it laterally
> to the left at all. Well after struggling with tying to shift it into
> gear (it wil not budge at all, no grinding noises, just will not
> shift) I realized the transfer case was in neutral. I shifted the
> case into 2H and released the clutch, and realized the Jeep is in
> gear. The jeep moved forward. I do not understand how I could have
> lateral movement in the shifter while being stuck in a gear. I also
> do not understand why my transmission shifting is seized up, other
> than contamination, and maybe the fact I let it sit for a week with no
> fluid. The transmission also has a light clicking sound internally,
> but I can not pinpoint it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Will
>
--
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11-12-2007, 12:53 PM
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Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
<wbowlin@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Bill, I am not sure I follow. What do you mean by 'pull that rail
> back into neutral'? Sorry I am just a greenhorn on transmissions.
> Thanks
>
Pull the shift lever out again, and look down into the transmission. You
will see three rails that move back and forth, parallel with the mainshaft.
They each have a notch in them, that the end of the shift lever fits in.
Before installing the shift lever, you have to line up all the notches so
the transmission is in neutral. Then you pop the shift lever in without
disturbing any of them..Once it is all the way down, you should be able to
shift into all the gears.
Earle
news:1194844112.369070.128620@o3g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> Bill, I am not sure I follow. What do you mean by 'pull that rail
> back into neutral'? Sorry I am just a greenhorn on transmissions.
> Thanks
>
Pull the shift lever out again, and look down into the transmission. You
will see three rails that move back and forth, parallel with the mainshaft.
They each have a notch in them, that the end of the shift lever fits in.
Before installing the shift lever, you have to line up all the notches so
the transmission is in neutral. Then you pop the shift lever in without
disturbing any of them..Once it is all the way down, you should be able to
shift into all the gears.
Earle
11-12-2007, 12:53 PM
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Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
<wbowlin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194844112.369070.128620@o3g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> Bill, I am not sure I follow. What do you mean by 'pull that rail
> back into neutral'? Sorry I am just a greenhorn on transmissions.
> Thanks
>
Pull the shift lever out again, and look down into the transmission. You
will see three rails that move back and forth, parallel with the mainshaft.
They each have a notch in them, that the end of the shift lever fits in.
Before installing the shift lever, you have to line up all the notches so
the transmission is in neutral. Then you pop the shift lever in without
disturbing any of them..Once it is all the way down, you should be able to
shift into all the gears.
Earle
news:1194844112.369070.128620@o3g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> Bill, I am not sure I follow. What do you mean by 'pull that rail
> back into neutral'? Sorry I am just a greenhorn on transmissions.
> Thanks
>
Pull the shift lever out again, and look down into the transmission. You
will see three rails that move back and forth, parallel with the mainshaft.
They each have a notch in them, that the end of the shift lever fits in.
Before installing the shift lever, you have to line up all the notches so
the transmission is in neutral. Then you pop the shift lever in without
disturbing any of them..Once it is all the way down, you should be able to
shift into all the gears.
Earle
11-12-2007, 12:53 PM
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Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
<wbowlin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194844112.369070.128620@o3g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> Bill, I am not sure I follow. What do you mean by 'pull that rail
> back into neutral'? Sorry I am just a greenhorn on transmissions.
> Thanks
>
Pull the shift lever out again, and look down into the transmission. You
will see three rails that move back and forth, parallel with the mainshaft.
They each have a notch in them, that the end of the shift lever fits in.
Before installing the shift lever, you have to line up all the notches so
the transmission is in neutral. Then you pop the shift lever in without
disturbing any of them..Once it is all the way down, you should be able to
shift into all the gears.
Earle
news:1194844112.369070.128620@o3g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> Bill, I am not sure I follow. What do you mean by 'pull that rail
> back into neutral'? Sorry I am just a greenhorn on transmissions.
> Thanks
>
Pull the shift lever out again, and look down into the transmission. You
will see three rails that move back and forth, parallel with the mainshaft.
They each have a notch in them, that the end of the shift lever fits in.
Before installing the shift lever, you have to line up all the notches so
the transmission is in neutral. Then you pop the shift lever in without
disturbing any of them..Once it is all the way down, you should be able to
shift into all the gears.
Earle