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wbowlin@gmail.com 11-11-2007 09:16 PM

Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
I have a Jeep 88 Wrangler that stalled out in about 3 feet of muddy
water last week. I did not have water come in through the air intake,
but I did have water enter the transmission. I drove home (60 miles)
and immediately drained the engine oil, transmission oil, transfer
case, and diffs. There was a strange noise, kind of like a strange
rubbing noise on the way home, and I attributed it to the clutch as it
seemed to come and go as I pressed and released the clutch pedal. I
removed the transmission to inspect the clutch (seemed fine) and to
completely drain it by tipping it on its end. The fluid was milky
looking and definately contaminated with water. I reinstalled both
diff covers and filled the engine oil and changed the oil filter. It
was a long night after a fun day of wheelin.

Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
budge it into gear. It felt that the shifter was still centered in
neutral. I could move the shifter laterally to the right where it is
in position to go into 5th or Reverse. I could not move it laterally
to the left at all. Well after struggling with tying to shift it into
gear (it wil not budge at all, no grinding noises, just will not
shift) I realized the transfer case was in neutral. I shifted the
case into 2H and released the clutch, and realized the Jeep is in
gear. The jeep moved forward. I do not understand how I could have
lateral movement in the shifter while being stuck in a gear. I also
do not understand why my transmission shifting is seized up, other
than contamination, and maybe the fact I let it sit for a week with no
fluid. The transmission also has a light clicking sound internally,
but I can not pinpoint it.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Will


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-11-2007 09:50 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
It's in gear, as you know, pull shift lever again and slide that rail
back into the neutral position:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AX15shiftArm.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

<wbowlin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194833809.450084.50590@c30g2000hsa.googlegro ups.com...
> I have a Jeep 88 Wrangler that stalled out in about 3 feet of muddy
> water last week. I did not have water come in through the air intake,
> but I did have water enter the transmission. I drove home (60 miles)
> and immediately drained the engine oil, transmission oil, transfer
> case, and diffs. There was a strange noise, kind of like a strange
> rubbing noise on the way home, and I attributed it to the clutch as it
> seemed to come and go as I pressed and released the clutch pedal. I
> removed the transmission to inspect the clutch (seemed fine) and to
> completely drain it by tipping it on its end. The fluid was milky
> looking and definately contaminated with water. I reinstalled both
> diff covers and filled the engine oil and changed the oil filter. It
> was a long night after a fun day of wheelin.
>
> Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
> transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
> etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
> budge it into gear. It felt that the shifter was still centered in
> neutral. I could move the shifter laterally to the right where it is
> in position to go into 5th or Reverse. I could not move it laterally
> to the left at all. Well after struggling with tying to shift it into
> gear (it wil not budge at all, no grinding noises, just will not
> shift) I realized the transfer case was in neutral. I shifted the
> case into 2H and released the clutch, and realized the Jeep is in
> gear. The jeep moved forward. I do not understand how I could have
> lateral movement in the shifter while being stuck in a gear. I also
> do not understand why my transmission shifting is seized up, other
> than contamination, and maybe the fact I let it sit for a week with no
> fluid. The transmission also has a light clicking sound internally,
> but I can not pinpoint it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Will
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-11-2007 09:50 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
It's in gear, as you know, pull shift lever again and slide that rail
back into the neutral position:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AX15shiftArm.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

<wbowlin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194833809.450084.50590@c30g2000hsa.googlegro ups.com...
> I have a Jeep 88 Wrangler that stalled out in about 3 feet of muddy
> water last week. I did not have water come in through the air intake,
> but I did have water enter the transmission. I drove home (60 miles)
> and immediately drained the engine oil, transmission oil, transfer
> case, and diffs. There was a strange noise, kind of like a strange
> rubbing noise on the way home, and I attributed it to the clutch as it
> seemed to come and go as I pressed and released the clutch pedal. I
> removed the transmission to inspect the clutch (seemed fine) and to
> completely drain it by tipping it on its end. The fluid was milky
> looking and definately contaminated with water. I reinstalled both
> diff covers and filled the engine oil and changed the oil filter. It
> was a long night after a fun day of wheelin.
>
> Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
> transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
> etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
> budge it into gear. It felt that the shifter was still centered in
> neutral. I could move the shifter laterally to the right where it is
> in position to go into 5th or Reverse. I could not move it laterally
> to the left at all. Well after struggling with tying to shift it into
> gear (it wil not budge at all, no grinding noises, just will not
> shift) I realized the transfer case was in neutral. I shifted the
> case into 2H and released the clutch, and realized the Jeep is in
> gear. The jeep moved forward. I do not understand how I could have
> lateral movement in the shifter while being stuck in a gear. I also
> do not understand why my transmission shifting is seized up, other
> than contamination, and maybe the fact I let it sit for a week with no
> fluid. The transmission also has a light clicking sound internally,
> but I can not pinpoint it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Will
>




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-11-2007 09:50 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
It's in gear, as you know, pull shift lever again and slide that rail
back into the neutral position:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AX15shiftArm.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

<wbowlin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194833809.450084.50590@c30g2000hsa.googlegro ups.com...
> I have a Jeep 88 Wrangler that stalled out in about 3 feet of muddy
> water last week. I did not have water come in through the air intake,
> but I did have water enter the transmission. I drove home (60 miles)
> and immediately drained the engine oil, transmission oil, transfer
> case, and diffs. There was a strange noise, kind of like a strange
> rubbing noise on the way home, and I attributed it to the clutch as it
> seemed to come and go as I pressed and released the clutch pedal. I
> removed the transmission to inspect the clutch (seemed fine) and to
> completely drain it by tipping it on its end. The fluid was milky
> looking and definately contaminated with water. I reinstalled both
> diff covers and filled the engine oil and changed the oil filter. It
> was a long night after a fun day of wheelin.
>
> Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
> transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
> etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
> budge it into gear. It felt that the shifter was still centered in
> neutral. I could move the shifter laterally to the right where it is
> in position to go into 5th or Reverse. I could not move it laterally
> to the left at all. Well after struggling with tying to shift it into
> gear (it wil not budge at all, no grinding noises, just will not
> shift) I realized the transfer case was in neutral. I shifted the
> case into 2H and released the clutch, and realized the Jeep is in
> gear. The jeep moved forward. I do not understand how I could have
> lateral movement in the shifter while being stuck in a gear. I also
> do not understand why my transmission shifting is seized up, other
> than contamination, and maybe the fact I let it sit for a week with no
> fluid. The transmission also has a light clicking sound internally,
> but I can not pinpoint it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Will
>




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


wbowlin@gmail.com 11-12-2007 12:08 AM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
Bill, I am not sure I follow. What do you mean by 'pull that rail
back into neutral'? Sorry I am just a greenhorn on transmissions.
Thanks


wbowlin@gmail.com 11-12-2007 12:08 AM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
Bill, I am not sure I follow. What do you mean by 'pull that rail
back into neutral'? Sorry I am just a greenhorn on transmissions.
Thanks


wbowlin@gmail.com 11-12-2007 12:08 AM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
Bill, I am not sure I follow. What do you mean by 'pull that rail
back into neutral'? Sorry I am just a greenhorn on transmissions.
Thanks


Earle Horton 11-12-2007 12:53 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
<wbowlin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194844112.369070.128620@o3g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> Bill, I am not sure I follow. What do you mean by 'pull that rail
> back into neutral'? Sorry I am just a greenhorn on transmissions.
> Thanks
>

Pull the shift lever out again, and look down into the transmission. You
will see three rails that move back and forth, parallel with the mainshaft.
They each have a notch in them, that the end of the shift lever fits in.
Before installing the shift lever, you have to line up all the notches so
the transmission is in neutral. Then you pop the shift lever in without
disturbing any of them..Once it is all the way down, you should be able to
shift into all the gears.

Earle



Earle Horton 11-12-2007 12:53 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
<wbowlin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194844112.369070.128620@o3g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> Bill, I am not sure I follow. What do you mean by 'pull that rail
> back into neutral'? Sorry I am just a greenhorn on transmissions.
> Thanks
>

Pull the shift lever out again, and look down into the transmission. You
will see three rails that move back and forth, parallel with the mainshaft.
They each have a notch in them, that the end of the shift lever fits in.
Before installing the shift lever, you have to line up all the notches so
the transmission is in neutral. Then you pop the shift lever in without
disturbing any of them..Once it is all the way down, you should be able to
shift into all the gears.

Earle



Earle Horton 11-12-2007 12:53 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
<wbowlin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194844112.369070.128620@o3g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> Bill, I am not sure I follow. What do you mean by 'pull that rail
> back into neutral'? Sorry I am just a greenhorn on transmissions.
> Thanks
>

Pull the shift lever out again, and look down into the transmission. You
will see three rails that move back and forth, parallel with the mainshaft.
They each have a notch in them, that the end of the shift lever fits in.
Before installing the shift lever, you have to line up all the notches so
the transmission is in neutral. Then you pop the shift lever in without
disturbing any of them..Once it is all the way down, you should be able to
shift into all the gears.

Earle



SnoMan 11-12-2007 01:04 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:16:49 -0000, wbowlin@gmail.com wrote:

>Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
>transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
>etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
>budge it into gear.



Part of your mistake was driving it 60 miles with water in it. I know
you do not want to walk but there is a times when you do not drive
them far and this was one of them. Second mistake was letting it sit
empty for a wek and without doubt some rust has set in internally. You
show have drained and refilled it right away and maybe put a few oz's
of dry gas with lube too (alchol in dry gas can bind to water and oil)
drove it a bit and then drained it again as this would have removed
alll the water in there. At this stage, the damage is likely done and
you need to pull tranny and tear it down to inspect it. (I beleive you
stated it made noisy on way home and this is not good either) THere is
no magic fixes here and to suggest otherwise would be misleading at
this stage of the game.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 11-12-2007 01:04 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:16:49 -0000, wbowlin@gmail.com wrote:

>Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
>transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
>etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
>budge it into gear.



Part of your mistake was driving it 60 miles with water in it. I know
you do not want to walk but there is a times when you do not drive
them far and this was one of them. Second mistake was letting it sit
empty for a wek and without doubt some rust has set in internally. You
show have drained and refilled it right away and maybe put a few oz's
of dry gas with lube too (alchol in dry gas can bind to water and oil)
drove it a bit and then drained it again as this would have removed
alll the water in there. At this stage, the damage is likely done and
you need to pull tranny and tear it down to inspect it. (I beleive you
stated it made noisy on way home and this is not good either) THere is
no magic fixes here and to suggest otherwise would be misleading at
this stage of the game.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 11-12-2007 01:04 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:16:49 -0000, wbowlin@gmail.com wrote:

>Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
>transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
>etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
>budge it into gear.



Part of your mistake was driving it 60 miles with water in it. I know
you do not want to walk but there is a times when you do not drive
them far and this was one of them. Second mistake was letting it sit
empty for a wek and without doubt some rust has set in internally. You
show have drained and refilled it right away and maybe put a few oz's
of dry gas with lube too (alchol in dry gas can bind to water and oil)
drove it a bit and then drained it again as this would have removed
alll the water in there. At this stage, the damage is likely done and
you need to pull tranny and tear it down to inspect it. (I beleive you
stated it made noisy on way home and this is not good either) THere is
no magic fixes here and to suggest otherwise would be misleading at
this stage of the game.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Earle Horton 11-12-2007 01:49 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
SnoMan you are a moron. This is all true but it has absolutely nothing to
do with the OP's stated problem.

And for our Spanish-speaking friends.
Snoman eres morón y hijo de la gran puta. Lo que balbuceas de manera tan
necia es verdad, sí claro, pero no tiene nada que ver con la queja del
puteador original. El tío no puede manipular el cambio de marchas, y la
respuesta es tan sencillo que un novato pueda contestarla. ¿Por qué no lo
haces? ¡Porque no tienes ni puta idea!

Cheers,

Earle

"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:035hj35on44eg7apnh69c26sugj3bjpm5b@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:16:49 -0000, wbowlin@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
>>transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
>>etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
>>budge it into gear.

>
>
> Part of your mistake was driving it 60 miles with water in it. I know
> you do not want to walk but there is a times when you do not drive
> them far and this was one of them. Second mistake was letting it sit
> empty for a wek and without doubt some rust has set in internally. You
> show have drained and refilled it right away and maybe put a few oz's
> of dry gas with lube too (alchol in dry gas can bind to water and oil)
> drove it a bit and then drained it again as this would have removed
> alll the water in there. At this stage, the damage is likely done and
> you need to pull tranny and tear it down to inspect it. (I beleive you
> stated it made noisy on way home and this is not good either) THere is
> no magic fixes here and to suggest otherwise would be misleading at
> this stage of the game.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com




Earle Horton 11-12-2007 01:49 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
SnoMan you are a moron. This is all true but it has absolutely nothing to
do with the OP's stated problem.

And for our Spanish-speaking friends.
Snoman eres morón y hijo de la gran puta. Lo que balbuceas de manera tan
necia es verdad, sí claro, pero no tiene nada que ver con la queja del
puteador original. El tío no puede manipular el cambio de marchas, y la
respuesta es tan sencillo que un novato pueda contestarla. ¿Por qué no lo
haces? ¡Porque no tienes ni puta idea!

Cheers,

Earle

"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:035hj35on44eg7apnh69c26sugj3bjpm5b@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:16:49 -0000, wbowlin@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
>>transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
>>etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
>>budge it into gear.

>
>
> Part of your mistake was driving it 60 miles with water in it. I know
> you do not want to walk but there is a times when you do not drive
> them far and this was one of them. Second mistake was letting it sit
> empty for a wek and without doubt some rust has set in internally. You
> show have drained and refilled it right away and maybe put a few oz's
> of dry gas with lube too (alchol in dry gas can bind to water and oil)
> drove it a bit and then drained it again as this would have removed
> alll the water in there. At this stage, the damage is likely done and
> you need to pull tranny and tear it down to inspect it. (I beleive you
> stated it made noisy on way home and this is not good either) THere is
> no magic fixes here and to suggest otherwise would be misleading at
> this stage of the game.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com




Earle Horton 11-12-2007 01:49 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
SnoMan you are a moron. This is all true but it has absolutely nothing to
do with the OP's stated problem.

And for our Spanish-speaking friends.
Snoman eres morón y hijo de la gran puta. Lo que balbuceas de manera tan
necia es verdad, sí claro, pero no tiene nada que ver con la queja del
puteador original. El tío no puede manipular el cambio de marchas, y la
respuesta es tan sencillo que un novato pueda contestarla. ¿Por qué no lo
haces? ¡Porque no tienes ni puta idea!

Cheers,

Earle

"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:035hj35on44eg7apnh69c26sugj3bjpm5b@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:16:49 -0000, wbowlin@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
>>transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
>>etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
>>budge it into gear.

>
>
> Part of your mistake was driving it 60 miles with water in it. I know
> you do not want to walk but there is a times when you do not drive
> them far and this was one of them. Second mistake was letting it sit
> empty for a wek and without doubt some rust has set in internally. You
> show have drained and refilled it right away and maybe put a few oz's
> of dry gas with lube too (alchol in dry gas can bind to water and oil)
> drove it a bit and then drained it again as this would have removed
> alll the water in there. At this stage, the damage is likely done and
> you need to pull tranny and tear it down to inspect it. (I beleive you
> stated it made noisy on way home and this is not good either) THere is
> no magic fixes here and to suggest otherwise would be misleading at
> this stage of the game.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com




Heatwave 11-12-2007 03:57 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
In article <035hj35on44eg7apnh69c26sugj3bjpm5b@4ax.com>,
admin@snoman.com says...
> Part of your mistake was driving it 60 miles with water in it. I know

[snip]

Oh boy more tranny advice from da snoflake.
Is it worth reading?
From nearly every past experience, who cares if it is.

Past post by the yellowsnoman:
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: 4T65E
http://tinyurl.com/2lcjkv
(Confuses a 4T65e with a 4L65e and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Dumb brake question
http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
(Discribes the wrong brakes and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Front wheel bearings-2000 Blazer??
http://tinyurl.com/2j44zv
(Claims torque specs are wrong when they are not.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Snoball Defense System v1.01
http://tinyurl.com/2okyfx
(Snoball breaks these out when he knows he's wrong
and doesn't want to admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________

Heatwave 11-12-2007 03:57 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
In article <035hj35on44eg7apnh69c26sugj3bjpm5b@4ax.com>,
admin@snoman.com says...
> Part of your mistake was driving it 60 miles with water in it. I know

[snip]

Oh boy more tranny advice from da snoflake.
Is it worth reading?
From nearly every past experience, who cares if it is.

Past post by the yellowsnoman:
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: 4T65E
http://tinyurl.com/2lcjkv
(Confuses a 4T65e with a 4L65e and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Dumb brake question
http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
(Discribes the wrong brakes and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Front wheel bearings-2000 Blazer??
http://tinyurl.com/2j44zv
(Claims torque specs are wrong when they are not.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Snoball Defense System v1.01
http://tinyurl.com/2okyfx
(Snoball breaks these out when he knows he's wrong
and doesn't want to admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________

Heatwave 11-12-2007 03:57 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
In article <035hj35on44eg7apnh69c26sugj3bjpm5b@4ax.com>,
admin@snoman.com says...
> Part of your mistake was driving it 60 miles with water in it. I know

[snip]

Oh boy more tranny advice from da snoflake.
Is it worth reading?
From nearly every past experience, who cares if it is.

Past post by the yellowsnoman:
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: 4T65E
http://tinyurl.com/2lcjkv
(Confuses a 4T65e with a 4L65e and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Dumb brake question
http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
(Discribes the wrong brakes and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Front wheel bearings-2000 Blazer??
http://tinyurl.com/2j44zv
(Claims torque specs are wrong when they are not.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Snoball Defense System v1.01
http://tinyurl.com/2okyfx
(Snoball breaks these out when he knows he's wrong
and doesn't want to admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________

SnoMan 11-12-2007 05:16 PM

Re: Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:49:46 -0700, "Earle Horton" <123456@nospam.com>
wrote:

>SnoMan you are a moron. This is all true but it has absolutely nothing to
>do with the OP's stated problem.
>
>And for our Spanish-speaking friends.
>Snoman eres morón y hijo de la gran puta. Lo que balbuceas de manera tan
>necia es verdad, sí claro, pero no tiene nada que ver con la queja del
>puteador original. El tío no puede manipular el cambio de marchas, y la
>respuesta es tan sencillo que un novato pueda contestarla. ¿Por qué no lo
>haces? ¡Porque no tienes ni puta idea!



The moron here is you as usual. Even if the shifter came out of ralils
it would not come out unless a LOT of force was apply to shift it and
that means it was binding and it was forced. It was binding from rust
and/or damage and people like you are dangerous because you are really
clueless and try to plant false hopes. You never want to treat cause
(because it escapes you) only the symptoms best you can with your
limited understanding of how and why things work. You really should
take up a different language because your advise is worthless anyway
so you might as well speak it in a foreign tongue too. Someone would
be very foolish to follow your dribble in this thread.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 11-12-2007 05:16 PM

Re: Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:49:46 -0700, "Earle Horton" <123456@nospam.com>
wrote:

>SnoMan you are a moron. This is all true but it has absolutely nothing to
>do with the OP's stated problem.
>
>And for our Spanish-speaking friends.
>Snoman eres morón y hijo de la gran puta. Lo que balbuceas de manera tan
>necia es verdad, sí claro, pero no tiene nada que ver con la queja del
>puteador original. El tío no puede manipular el cambio de marchas, y la
>respuesta es tan sencillo que un novato pueda contestarla. ¿Por qué no lo
>haces? ¡Porque no tienes ni puta idea!



The moron here is you as usual. Even if the shifter came out of ralils
it would not come out unless a LOT of force was apply to shift it and
that means it was binding and it was forced. It was binding from rust
and/or damage and people like you are dangerous because you are really
clueless and try to plant false hopes. You never want to treat cause
(because it escapes you) only the symptoms best you can with your
limited understanding of how and why things work. You really should
take up a different language because your advise is worthless anyway
so you might as well speak it in a foreign tongue too. Someone would
be very foolish to follow your dribble in this thread.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 11-12-2007 05:16 PM

Re: Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:49:46 -0700, "Earle Horton" <123456@nospam.com>
wrote:

>SnoMan you are a moron. This is all true but it has absolutely nothing to
>do with the OP's stated problem.
>
>And for our Spanish-speaking friends.
>Snoman eres morón y hijo de la gran puta. Lo que balbuceas de manera tan
>necia es verdad, sí claro, pero no tiene nada que ver con la queja del
>puteador original. El tío no puede manipular el cambio de marchas, y la
>respuesta es tan sencillo que un novato pueda contestarla. ¿Por qué no lo
>haces? ¡Porque no tienes ni puta idea!



The moron here is you as usual. Even if the shifter came out of ralils
it would not come out unless a LOT of force was apply to shift it and
that means it was binding and it was forced. It was binding from rust
and/or damage and people like you are dangerous because you are really
clueless and try to plant false hopes. You never want to treat cause
(because it escapes you) only the symptoms best you can with your
limited understanding of how and why things work. You really should
take up a different language because your advise is worthless anyway
so you might as well speak it in a foreign tongue too. Someone would
be very foolish to follow your dribble in this thread.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 11-12-2007 05:18 PM

Re: Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:57:49 -0500, Heatwave
<m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote:

>Oh boy



Oh boy is right, another insecure troll about. Where there is one
there is another. BTW, I will not be the child you are and quote all
the foolish dribble you have posted because it would take all night
and then some to list it all. Knock yourself out. I am laughing at you
(and so are others)
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 11-12-2007 05:18 PM

Re: Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:57:49 -0500, Heatwave
<m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote:

>Oh boy



Oh boy is right, another insecure troll about. Where there is one
there is another. BTW, I will not be the child you are and quote all
the foolish dribble you have posted because it would take all night
and then some to list it all. Knock yourself out. I am laughing at you
(and so are others)
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 11-12-2007 05:18 PM

Re: Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:57:49 -0500, Heatwave
<m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote:

>Oh boy



Oh boy is right, another insecure troll about. Where there is one
there is another. BTW, I will not be the child you are and quote all
the foolish dribble you have posted because it would take all night
and then some to list it all. Knock yourself out. I am laughing at you
(and so are others)
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 11-12-2007 05:21 PM

Re: Re: Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:18:45 -0500, SnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:57:49 -0500, Heatwave
><m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote:
>
>>Oh boy

>
>
>Oh boy is right, another insecure troll about. Where there is one
>there is another. BTW, I will not be the child you are and quote all
>the foolish dribble you have posted because it would take all night
>and then some to list it all. Knock yourself out. I am laughing at you
>(and so are others)
>-----------------
>TheSnoMan.com



BTW, you are notice how some of these cry babies like HeatWave do not
even use a real Email address? That alone tells you a lot about their
validity.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 11-12-2007 05:21 PM

Re: Re: Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:18:45 -0500, SnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:57:49 -0500, Heatwave
><m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote:
>
>>Oh boy

>
>
>Oh boy is right, another insecure troll about. Where there is one
>there is another. BTW, I will not be the child you are and quote all
>the foolish dribble you have posted because it would take all night
>and then some to list it all. Knock yourself out. I am laughing at you
>(and so are others)
>-----------------
>TheSnoMan.com



BTW, you are notice how some of these cry babies like HeatWave do not
even use a real Email address? That alone tells you a lot about their
validity.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 11-12-2007 05:21 PM

Re: Re: Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:18:45 -0500, SnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:57:49 -0500, Heatwave
><m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote:
>
>>Oh boy

>
>
>Oh boy is right, another insecure troll about. Where there is one
>there is another. BTW, I will not be the child you are and quote all
>the foolish dribble you have posted because it would take all night
>and then some to list it all. Knock yourself out. I am laughing at you
>(and so are others)
>-----------------
>TheSnoMan.com



BTW, you are notice how some of these cry babies like HeatWave do not
even use a real Email address? That alone tells you a lot about their
validity.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

D Gavilanes 11-12-2007 06:40 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
Earle,

Your Spanish is amazing!

Regards,

Doug

Earle Horton wrote:
> SnoMan you are a moron. This is all true but it has absolutely nothing to
> do with the OP's stated problem.
>
> And for our Spanish-speaking friends.
> Snoman eres morón y hijo de la gran puta. Lo que balbuceas de manera tan
> necia es verdad, sí claro, pero no tiene nada que ver con la queja del
> puteador original. El tío no puede manipular el cambio de marchas, y la
> respuesta es tan sencillo que un novato pueda contestarla. ¿Por qué no lo
> haces? ¡Porque no tienes ni puta idea!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
> news:035hj35on44eg7apnh69c26sugj3bjpm5b@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:16:49 -0000, wbowlin@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
>>> transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
>>> etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
>>> budge it into gear.

>>
>> Part of your mistake was driving it 60 miles with water in it. I know
>> you do not want to walk but there is a times when you do not drive
>> them far and this was one of them. Second mistake was letting it sit
>> empty for a wek and without doubt some rust has set in internally. You
>> show have drained and refilled it right away and maybe put a few oz's
>> of dry gas with lube too (alchol in dry gas can bind to water and oil)
>> drove it a bit and then drained it again as this would have removed
>> alll the water in there. At this stage, the damage is likely done and
>> you need to pull tranny and tear it down to inspect it. (I beleive you
>> stated it made noisy on way home and this is not good either) THere is
>> no magic fixes here and to suggest otherwise would be misleading at
>> this stage of the game.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com

>
>


D Gavilanes 11-12-2007 06:40 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
Earle,

Your Spanish is amazing!

Regards,

Doug

Earle Horton wrote:
> SnoMan you are a moron. This is all true but it has absolutely nothing to
> do with the OP's stated problem.
>
> And for our Spanish-speaking friends.
> Snoman eres morón y hijo de la gran puta. Lo que balbuceas de manera tan
> necia es verdad, sí claro, pero no tiene nada que ver con la queja del
> puteador original. El tío no puede manipular el cambio de marchas, y la
> respuesta es tan sencillo que un novato pueda contestarla. ¿Por qué no lo
> haces? ¡Porque no tienes ni puta idea!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
> news:035hj35on44eg7apnh69c26sugj3bjpm5b@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:16:49 -0000, wbowlin@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
>>> transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
>>> etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
>>> budge it into gear.

>>
>> Part of your mistake was driving it 60 miles with water in it. I know
>> you do not want to walk but there is a times when you do not drive
>> them far and this was one of them. Second mistake was letting it sit
>> empty for a wek and without doubt some rust has set in internally. You
>> show have drained and refilled it right away and maybe put a few oz's
>> of dry gas with lube too (alchol in dry gas can bind to water and oil)
>> drove it a bit and then drained it again as this would have removed
>> alll the water in there. At this stage, the damage is likely done and
>> you need to pull tranny and tear it down to inspect it. (I beleive you
>> stated it made noisy on way home and this is not good either) THere is
>> no magic fixes here and to suggest otherwise would be misleading at
>> this stage of the game.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com

>
>


D Gavilanes 11-12-2007 06:40 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
Earle,

Your Spanish is amazing!

Regards,

Doug

Earle Horton wrote:
> SnoMan you are a moron. This is all true but it has absolutely nothing to
> do with the OP's stated problem.
>
> And for our Spanish-speaking friends.
> Snoman eres morón y hijo de la gran puta. Lo que balbuceas de manera tan
> necia es verdad, sí claro, pero no tiene nada que ver con la queja del
> puteador original. El tío no puede manipular el cambio de marchas, y la
> respuesta es tan sencillo que un novato pueda contestarla. ¿Por qué no lo
> haces? ¡Porque no tienes ni puta idea!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
> news:035hj35on44eg7apnh69c26sugj3bjpm5b@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:16:49 -0000, wbowlin@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Today ( a week later) I reassembled he transmission, filled the
>>> transmission with fluid, filled the transfer case, rebled the clutch,
>>> etc and fired it up. I went to shift the Jeep into gear and I can not
>>> budge it into gear.

>>
>> Part of your mistake was driving it 60 miles with water in it. I know
>> you do not want to walk but there is a times when you do not drive
>> them far and this was one of them. Second mistake was letting it sit
>> empty for a wek and without doubt some rust has set in internally. You
>> show have drained and refilled it right away and maybe put a few oz's
>> of dry gas with lube too (alchol in dry gas can bind to water and oil)
>> drove it a bit and then drained it again as this would have removed
>> alll the water in there. At this stage, the damage is likely done and
>> you need to pull tranny and tear it down to inspect it. (I beleive you
>> stated it made noisy on way home and this is not good either) THere is
>> no magic fixes here and to suggest otherwise would be misleading at
>> this stage of the game.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com

>
>


Heatwave 11-12-2007 06:59 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
In article <hrjhj3pbsu2mloq7pc5lt8e480iqmbpd61@4ax.com>,
admin@snoman.com says...
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:49:46 -0700, "Earle Horton" <123456@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
> >SnoMan you are a moron. This is all true but it has absolutely nothing to
> >do with the OP's stated problem.
> >
> >And for our Spanish-speaking friends.
> >Snoman eres morón y hijo de la gran puta. Lo que balbuceas de manera tan
> >necia es verdad, sí claro, pero no tiene nada que ver con la queja del
> >puteador original. El tío no puede manipular el cambio de marchas, y la
> >respuesta es tan sencillo que un novato pueda contestarla. ¿Por quéno lo
> >haces? ¡Porque no tienes ni puta idea!

>
> The moron here is you as usual. Even if the shifter came out of ralils
> it would not come out unless a LOT of force was apply to shift it and
> that means it was binding and it was forced. It was binding from rust
> and/or damage and people like you are dangerous because you are really
> clueless and try to plant false hopes. You never want to treat cause
> (because it escapes you) only the symptoms best you can with your
> limited understanding of how and why things work.


This is the typical lame diatribe snoflake uses when he goes into
offense mode. This contains way fewer spelling errors than usual. Either
he's using spell check or he's sober at the moment.

> You really should
> take up a different language because your advise is worthless anyway


LMAO nearly everything you write is in a different language.

> so you might as well speak it in a foreign tongue too. Someone would
> be very foolish to follow your dribble in this thread.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com


The word "dribble" is something he picked up from those writing about
his post. He very slowly picks these things up and tries to use them
against others. Its getting more laughable everytime he picks something
new up and attempts to use it in a scathing maner.

Snoball these links contain things that "YOU" wrote. If you do not like
what YOU wrote then I suggest YOU stop posting.
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: 4T65E
http://tinyurl.com/2lcjkv
(Confuses a 4T65e with a 4L65e and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Dumb brake question
http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
(Discribes the wrong brakes and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Front wheel bearings-2000 Blazer??
http://tinyurl.com/2j44zv
(Claims torque specs are wrong when they are not.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Snoball Defense System v1.01
http://tinyurl.com/2okyfx
(Snoball breaks these out when he knows he's wrong
and doesn't want to admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________

Heatwave 11-12-2007 06:59 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
In article <hrjhj3pbsu2mloq7pc5lt8e480iqmbpd61@4ax.com>,
admin@snoman.com says...
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:49:46 -0700, "Earle Horton" <123456@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
> >SnoMan you are a moron. This is all true but it has absolutely nothing to
> >do with the OP's stated problem.
> >
> >And for our Spanish-speaking friends.
> >Snoman eres morón y hijo de la gran puta. Lo que balbuceas de manera tan
> >necia es verdad, sí claro, pero no tiene nada que ver con la queja del
> >puteador original. El tío no puede manipular el cambio de marchas, y la
> >respuesta es tan sencillo que un novato pueda contestarla. ¿Por quéno lo
> >haces? ¡Porque no tienes ni puta idea!

>
> The moron here is you as usual. Even if the shifter came out of ralils
> it would not come out unless a LOT of force was apply to shift it and
> that means it was binding and it was forced. It was binding from rust
> and/or damage and people like you are dangerous because you are really
> clueless and try to plant false hopes. You never want to treat cause
> (because it escapes you) only the symptoms best you can with your
> limited understanding of how and why things work.


This is the typical lame diatribe snoflake uses when he goes into
offense mode. This contains way fewer spelling errors than usual. Either
he's using spell check or he's sober at the moment.

> You really should
> take up a different language because your advise is worthless anyway


LMAO nearly everything you write is in a different language.

> so you might as well speak it in a foreign tongue too. Someone would
> be very foolish to follow your dribble in this thread.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com


The word "dribble" is something he picked up from those writing about
his post. He very slowly picks these things up and tries to use them
against others. Its getting more laughable everytime he picks something
new up and attempts to use it in a scathing maner.

Snoball these links contain things that "YOU" wrote. If you do not like
what YOU wrote then I suggest YOU stop posting.
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: 4T65E
http://tinyurl.com/2lcjkv
(Confuses a 4T65e with a 4L65e and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Dumb brake question
http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
(Discribes the wrong brakes and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Front wheel bearings-2000 Blazer??
http://tinyurl.com/2j44zv
(Claims torque specs are wrong when they are not.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Snoball Defense System v1.01
http://tinyurl.com/2okyfx
(Snoball breaks these out when he knows he's wrong
and doesn't want to admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________

Heatwave 11-12-2007 06:59 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
In article <hrjhj3pbsu2mloq7pc5lt8e480iqmbpd61@4ax.com>,
admin@snoman.com says...
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:49:46 -0700, "Earle Horton" <123456@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
> >SnoMan you are a moron. This is all true but it has absolutely nothing to
> >do with the OP's stated problem.
> >
> >And for our Spanish-speaking friends.
> >Snoman eres morón y hijo de la gran puta. Lo que balbuceas de manera tan
> >necia es verdad, sí claro, pero no tiene nada que ver con la queja del
> >puteador original. El tío no puede manipular el cambio de marchas, y la
> >respuesta es tan sencillo que un novato pueda contestarla. ¿Por quéno lo
> >haces? ¡Porque no tienes ni puta idea!

>
> The moron here is you as usual. Even if the shifter came out of ralils
> it would not come out unless a LOT of force was apply to shift it and
> that means it was binding and it was forced. It was binding from rust
> and/or damage and people like you are dangerous because you are really
> clueless and try to plant false hopes. You never want to treat cause
> (because it escapes you) only the symptoms best you can with your
> limited understanding of how and why things work.


This is the typical lame diatribe snoflake uses when he goes into
offense mode. This contains way fewer spelling errors than usual. Either
he's using spell check or he's sober at the moment.

> You really should
> take up a different language because your advise is worthless anyway


LMAO nearly everything you write is in a different language.

> so you might as well speak it in a foreign tongue too. Someone would
> be very foolish to follow your dribble in this thread.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com


The word "dribble" is something he picked up from those writing about
his post. He very slowly picks these things up and tries to use them
against others. Its getting more laughable everytime he picks something
new up and attempts to use it in a scathing maner.

Snoball these links contain things that "YOU" wrote. If you do not like
what YOU wrote then I suggest YOU stop posting.
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: 4T65E
http://tinyurl.com/2lcjkv
(Confuses a 4T65e with a 4L65e and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Dumb brake question
http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
(Discribes the wrong brakes and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Front wheel bearings-2000 Blazer??
http://tinyurl.com/2j44zv
(Claims torque specs are wrong when they are not.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Snoball Defense System v1.01
http://tinyurl.com/2okyfx
(Snoball breaks these out when he knows he's wrong
and doesn't want to admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________

Heatwave 11-12-2007 07:00 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
In article <1ekhj3pnmkvt2g4cfv2gfpp56182ahf3jh@4ax.com>,
admin@snoman.com says...
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:18:45 -0500, SnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:
>
> BTW, you are notice how some of these cry babies like
> TheSnoMan.com


I already gave you an Email address because you wouldn't stop crying
about it. Did you miss it? Well Boo----inghoo. Poor little Snoball
couldn't read.

No one with an ounce of intellect would ever use their primary email
address on the USENET because it will obviously be harvested by spammers
or used by mental cases like snoflake here to make threats on peoples
lives in private.

Since you think having information out there is so damn important lets
get yours out in the open right now:

Jacob R. Stan
8525 MILTON CARLISLE RD
NEW CARLISLE, OH 45344

Still wanna keep going off on that temper tantrum?
Okay, I'll start posting your personal information when you do.

Snoman es de hecho un idiota.

Snoball these links contain things that "YOU" wrote. If you do not like
what YOU wrote then I suggest YOU stop posting.
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: 4T65E
http://tinyurl.com/2lcjkv
(Confuses a 4T65e with a 4L65e and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Dumb brake question
http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
(Discribes the wrong brakes and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Front wheel bearings-2000 Blazer??
http://tinyurl.com/2j44zv
(Claims torque specs are wrong when they are not.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Snoball Defense System v1.01
http://tinyurl.com/2okyfx
(Snoball breaks these out when he knows he's wrong
and doesn't want to admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________


Heatwave 11-12-2007 07:00 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
In article <1ekhj3pnmkvt2g4cfv2gfpp56182ahf3jh@4ax.com>,
admin@snoman.com says...
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:18:45 -0500, SnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:
>
> BTW, you are notice how some of these cry babies like
> TheSnoMan.com


I already gave you an Email address because you wouldn't stop crying
about it. Did you miss it? Well Boo----inghoo. Poor little Snoball
couldn't read.

No one with an ounce of intellect would ever use their primary email
address on the USENET because it will obviously be harvested by spammers
or used by mental cases like snoflake here to make threats on peoples
lives in private.

Since you think having information out there is so damn important lets
get yours out in the open right now:

Jacob R. Stan
8525 MILTON CARLISLE RD
NEW CARLISLE, OH 45344

Still wanna keep going off on that temper tantrum?
Okay, I'll start posting your personal information when you do.

Snoman es de hecho un idiota.

Snoball these links contain things that "YOU" wrote. If you do not like
what YOU wrote then I suggest YOU stop posting.
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: 4T65E
http://tinyurl.com/2lcjkv
(Confuses a 4T65e with a 4L65e and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Dumb brake question
http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
(Discribes the wrong brakes and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Front wheel bearings-2000 Blazer??
http://tinyurl.com/2j44zv
(Claims torque specs are wrong when they are not.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Snoball Defense System v1.01
http://tinyurl.com/2okyfx
(Snoball breaks these out when he knows he's wrong
and doesn't want to admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________


Heatwave 11-12-2007 07:00 PM

Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
In article <1ekhj3pnmkvt2g4cfv2gfpp56182ahf3jh@4ax.com>,
admin@snoman.com says...
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:18:45 -0500, SnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:
>
> BTW, you are notice how some of these cry babies like
> TheSnoMan.com


I already gave you an Email address because you wouldn't stop crying
about it. Did you miss it? Well Boo----inghoo. Poor little Snoball
couldn't read.

No one with an ounce of intellect would ever use their primary email
address on the USENET because it will obviously be harvested by spammers
or used by mental cases like snoflake here to make threats on peoples
lives in private.

Since you think having information out there is so damn important lets
get yours out in the open right now:

Jacob R. Stan
8525 MILTON CARLISLE RD
NEW CARLISLE, OH 45344

Still wanna keep going off on that temper tantrum?
Okay, I'll start posting your personal information when you do.

Snoman es de hecho un idiota.

Snoball these links contain things that "YOU" wrote. If you do not like
what YOU wrote then I suggest YOU stop posting.
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: 4T65E
http://tinyurl.com/2lcjkv
(Confuses a 4T65e with a 4L65e and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Dumb brake question
http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
(Discribes the wrong brakes and won't admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Front wheel bearings-2000 Blazer??
http://tinyurl.com/2j44zv
(Claims torque specs are wrong when they are not.)
__________________________________________________ _________
SBJ: Snoball Defense System v1.01
http://tinyurl.com/2okyfx
(Snoball breaks these out when he knows he's wrong
and doesn't want to admit it.)
__________________________________________________ _________


J. Clarke 11-12-2007 08:13 PM

Re: Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
SnoMan wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:49:46 -0700, "Earle Horton"
> <123456@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
>> SnoMan you are a moron. This is all true but it has absolutely
>> nothing to do with the OP's stated problem.
>>
>> And for our Spanish-speaking friends.
>> Snoman eres morón y hijo de la gran puta. Lo que balbuceas de
>> manera tan necia es verdad, sí claro, pero no tiene nada que ver
>> con
>> la queja del puteador original. El tío no puede manipular el
>> cambio
>> de marchas, y la respuesta es tan sencillo que un novato pueda
>> contestarla. ¿Por qué no lo haces? ¡Porque no tienes ni puta
>> idea!

>
>
> The moron here is you as usual. Even if the shifter came out of
> ralils
> it would not come out unless a LOT of force was apply to shift it
> and
> that means it was binding and it was forced. It was binding from
> rust
> and/or damage and people like you are dangerous because you are
> really
> clueless and try to plant false hopes. You never want to treat cause
> (because it escapes you) only the symptoms best you can with your
> limited understanding of how and why things work. You really should
> take up a different language because your advise is worthless anyway
> so you might as well speak it in a foreign tongue too. Someone would
> be very foolish to follow your dribble in this thread.


Uh, he said that he removed the transmission completely. That would
imply that he had removed the lever, thus giving the opportunity to
put it back incorrectly, so there is no need for "a LOT of force" to
have been applied.

Instead of getting pissed off why don't you try actually _reading_ the
post to which you are responding?
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com


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--John
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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)



J. Clarke 11-12-2007 08:13 PM

Re: Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
SnoMan wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:49:46 -0700, "Earle Horton"
> <123456@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
>> SnoMan you are a moron. This is all true but it has absolutely
>> nothing to do with the OP's stated problem.
>>
>> And for our Spanish-speaking friends.
>> Snoman eres morón y hijo de la gran puta. Lo que balbuceas de
>> manera tan necia es verdad, sí claro, pero no tiene nada que ver
>> con
>> la queja del puteador original. El tío no puede manipular el
>> cambio
>> de marchas, y la respuesta es tan sencillo que un novato pueda
>> contestarla. ¿Por qué no lo haces? ¡Porque no tienes ni puta
>> idea!

>
>
> The moron here is you as usual. Even if the shifter came out of
> ralils
> it would not come out unless a LOT of force was apply to shift it
> and
> that means it was binding and it was forced. It was binding from
> rust
> and/or damage and people like you are dangerous because you are
> really
> clueless and try to plant false hopes. You never want to treat cause
> (because it escapes you) only the symptoms best you can with your
> limited understanding of how and why things work. You really should
> take up a different language because your advise is worthless anyway
> so you might as well speak it in a foreign tongue too. Someone would
> be very foolish to follow your dribble in this thread.


Uh, he said that he removed the transmission completely. That would
imply that he had removed the lever, thus giving the opportunity to
put it back incorrectly, so there is no need for "a LOT of force" to
have been applied.

Instead of getting pissed off why don't you try actually _reading_ the
post to which you are responding?
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com


--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)



J. Clarke 11-12-2007 08:13 PM

Re: Re: Jeep in water - now transmission will not work
 
SnoMan wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:49:46 -0700, "Earle Horton"
> <123456@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
>> SnoMan you are a moron. This is all true but it has absolutely
>> nothing to do with the OP's stated problem.
>>
>> And for our Spanish-speaking friends.
>> Snoman eres morón y hijo de la gran puta. Lo que balbuceas de
>> manera tan necia es verdad, sí claro, pero no tiene nada que ver
>> con
>> la queja del puteador original. El tío no puede manipular el
>> cambio
>> de marchas, y la respuesta es tan sencillo que un novato pueda
>> contestarla. ¿Por qué no lo haces? ¡Porque no tienes ni puta
>> idea!

>
>
> The moron here is you as usual. Even if the shifter came out of
> ralils
> it would not come out unless a LOT of force was apply to shift it
> and
> that means it was binding and it was forced. It was binding from
> rust
> and/or damage and people like you are dangerous because you are
> really
> clueless and try to plant false hopes. You never want to treat cause
> (because it escapes you) only the symptoms best you can with your
> limited understanding of how and why things work. You really should
> take up a different language because your advise is worthless anyway
> so you might as well speak it in a foreign tongue too. Someone would
> be very foolish to follow your dribble in this thread.


Uh, he said that he removed the transmission completely. That would
imply that he had removed the lever, thus giving the opportunity to
put it back incorrectly, so there is no need for "a LOT of force" to
have been applied.

Instead of getting pissed off why don't you try actually _reading_ the
post to which you are responding?
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com


--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)




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