Jeep TJ - Does anyone know where i can find 30 spline axle shafts for d35c?
08-10-2004, 12:01 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ - Does anyone know where i can find 30 spline axle shafts for d35c?
Nothing bigger or nothing smaller, Bill?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41183965.19EA8E8@***.net...
> Nothing's bigger than 33" on my page of broken axles:
> http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ Please keep a camera in you TJ.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Derek Proctor wrote:
> >
> > I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
> > width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
> > 12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
> > Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
> > leverage to snap a locked d35?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41183965.19EA8E8@***.net...
> Nothing's bigger than 33" on my page of broken axles:
> http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ Please keep a camera in you TJ.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Derek Proctor wrote:
> >
> > I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
> > width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
> > 12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
> > Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
> > leverage to snap a locked d35?
08-10-2004, 12:03 PM
#62
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Re: Jeep TJ - Does anyone know where i can find 30 spline axle shafts for d35c?
It's the diameter more than anything, the larger diameter exerts more
leverage on the splines, Yes, there is some truth that narrower tires will
slip sooner, but I think you would be better served with the 30-spline axles
and a locker than the 27-spline and the NoSlip.
"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0408091843.3795e48@posting.google.co m...
> I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
> width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
> 12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
> Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
> leverage to snap a locked d35?
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<10hf8hgmo7iokba@corp.supernews.com>...
> > Unless you are married to the NoSlip, I suggest you look into the full
on
> > locker that can support the 30-spline shafts.
> >
> > The 30-spline axles are worth the time and effort to locate them,
getting
> > another set of 27-spline axles will give you essentially the same thing
you
> > already have. No better, no worse.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:3ade3bcf.0408070558.c7278ef@posting.google.co m...
> > > Yukon sells a set of "heavy duty" 27 spline axle shafts for $279 a
> > > pair.
> > >
> > > http://www.4x4rockshop.com/scripts/p...idproduct=2047
> > >
> > > They have a 5 year warranty and are supposedly stronger than OEM
> > > stock. would these work better than the stock shafts? I was figuring
> > > i might run these if they are stronger than stock and use the stock
> > > shafts as my spares. Money is tight, so an arb or ox locker is out of
> > > the question. A detroit wouldnt work with my daily driver, and i
> > > believe i can install the powertrax no-slip locker myself.
> > >
> > > > >
leverage on the splines, Yes, there is some truth that narrower tires will
slip sooner, but I think you would be better served with the 30-spline axles
and a locker than the 27-spline and the NoSlip.
"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0408091843.3795e48@posting.google.co m...
> I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
> width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
> 12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
> Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
> leverage to snap a locked d35?
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<10hf8hgmo7iokba@corp.supernews.com>...
> > Unless you are married to the NoSlip, I suggest you look into the full
on
> > locker that can support the 30-spline shafts.
> >
> > The 30-spline axles are worth the time and effort to locate them,
getting
> > another set of 27-spline axles will give you essentially the same thing
you
> > already have. No better, no worse.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:3ade3bcf.0408070558.c7278ef@posting.google.co m...
> > > Yukon sells a set of "heavy duty" 27 spline axle shafts for $279 a
> > > pair.
> > >
> > > http://www.4x4rockshop.com/scripts/p...idproduct=2047
> > >
> > > They have a 5 year warranty and are supposedly stronger than OEM
> > > stock. would these work better than the stock shafts? I was figuring
> > > i might run these if they are stronger than stock and use the stock
> > > shafts as my spares. Money is tight, so an arb or ox locker is out of
> > > the question. A detroit wouldnt work with my daily driver, and i
> > > believe i can install the powertrax no-slip locker myself.
> > >
> > > > >
08-10-2004, 12:03 PM
#63
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Re: Jeep TJ - Does anyone know where i can find 30 spline axle shafts for d35c?
It's the diameter more than anything, the larger diameter exerts more
leverage on the splines, Yes, there is some truth that narrower tires will
slip sooner, but I think you would be better served with the 30-spline axles
and a locker than the 27-spline and the NoSlip.
"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0408091843.3795e48@posting.google.co m...
> I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
> width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
> 12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
> Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
> leverage to snap a locked d35?
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<10hf8hgmo7iokba@corp.supernews.com>...
> > Unless you are married to the NoSlip, I suggest you look into the full
on
> > locker that can support the 30-spline shafts.
> >
> > The 30-spline axles are worth the time and effort to locate them,
getting
> > another set of 27-spline axles will give you essentially the same thing
you
> > already have. No better, no worse.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:3ade3bcf.0408070558.c7278ef@posting.google.co m...
> > > Yukon sells a set of "heavy duty" 27 spline axle shafts for $279 a
> > > pair.
> > >
> > > http://www.4x4rockshop.com/scripts/p...idproduct=2047
> > >
> > > They have a 5 year warranty and are supposedly stronger than OEM
> > > stock. would these work better than the stock shafts? I was figuring
> > > i might run these if they are stronger than stock and use the stock
> > > shafts as my spares. Money is tight, so an arb or ox locker is out of
> > > the question. A detroit wouldnt work with my daily driver, and i
> > > believe i can install the powertrax no-slip locker myself.
> > >
> > > > >
leverage on the splines, Yes, there is some truth that narrower tires will
slip sooner, but I think you would be better served with the 30-spline axles
and a locker than the 27-spline and the NoSlip.
"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0408091843.3795e48@posting.google.co m...
> I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
> width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
> 12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
> Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
> leverage to snap a locked d35?
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<10hf8hgmo7iokba@corp.supernews.com>...
> > Unless you are married to the NoSlip, I suggest you look into the full
on
> > locker that can support the 30-spline shafts.
> >
> > The 30-spline axles are worth the time and effort to locate them,
getting
> > another set of 27-spline axles will give you essentially the same thing
you
> > already have. No better, no worse.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:3ade3bcf.0408070558.c7278ef@posting.google.co m...
> > > Yukon sells a set of "heavy duty" 27 spline axle shafts for $279 a
> > > pair.
> > >
> > > http://www.4x4rockshop.com/scripts/p...idproduct=2047
> > >
> > > They have a 5 year warranty and are supposedly stronger than OEM
> > > stock. would these work better than the stock shafts? I was figuring
> > > i might run these if they are stronger than stock and use the stock
> > > shafts as my spares. Money is tight, so an arb or ox locker is out of
> > > the question. A detroit wouldnt work with my daily driver, and i
> > > believe i can install the powertrax no-slip locker myself.
> > >
> > > > >
08-10-2004, 12:03 PM
#64
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Re: Jeep TJ - Does anyone know where i can find 30 spline axle shafts for d35c?
It's the diameter more than anything, the larger diameter exerts more
leverage on the splines, Yes, there is some truth that narrower tires will
slip sooner, but I think you would be better served with the 30-spline axles
and a locker than the 27-spline and the NoSlip.
"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0408091843.3795e48@posting.google.co m...
> I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
> width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
> 12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
> Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
> leverage to snap a locked d35?
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<10hf8hgmo7iokba@corp.supernews.com>...
> > Unless you are married to the NoSlip, I suggest you look into the full
on
> > locker that can support the 30-spline shafts.
> >
> > The 30-spline axles are worth the time and effort to locate them,
getting
> > another set of 27-spline axles will give you essentially the same thing
you
> > already have. No better, no worse.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:3ade3bcf.0408070558.c7278ef@posting.google.co m...
> > > Yukon sells a set of "heavy duty" 27 spline axle shafts for $279 a
> > > pair.
> > >
> > > http://www.4x4rockshop.com/scripts/p...idproduct=2047
> > >
> > > They have a 5 year warranty and are supposedly stronger than OEM
> > > stock. would these work better than the stock shafts? I was figuring
> > > i might run these if they are stronger than stock and use the stock
> > > shafts as my spares. Money is tight, so an arb or ox locker is out of
> > > the question. A detroit wouldnt work with my daily driver, and i
> > > believe i can install the powertrax no-slip locker myself.
> > >
> > > > >
leverage on the splines, Yes, there is some truth that narrower tires will
slip sooner, but I think you would be better served with the 30-spline axles
and a locker than the 27-spline and the NoSlip.
"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0408091843.3795e48@posting.google.co m...
> I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
> width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
> 12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
> Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
> leverage to snap a locked d35?
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<10hf8hgmo7iokba@corp.supernews.com>...
> > Unless you are married to the NoSlip, I suggest you look into the full
on
> > locker that can support the 30-spline shafts.
> >
> > The 30-spline axles are worth the time and effort to locate them,
getting
> > another set of 27-spline axles will give you essentially the same thing
you
> > already have. No better, no worse.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:3ade3bcf.0408070558.c7278ef@posting.google.co m...
> > > Yukon sells a set of "heavy duty" 27 spline axle shafts for $279 a
> > > pair.
> > >
> > > http://www.4x4rockshop.com/scripts/p...idproduct=2047
> > >
> > > They have a 5 year warranty and are supposedly stronger than OEM
> > > stock. would these work better than the stock shafts? I was figuring
> > > i might run these if they are stronger than stock and use the stock
> > > shafts as my spares. Money is tight, so an arb or ox locker is out of
> > > the question. A detroit wouldnt work with my daily driver, and i
> > > believe i can install the powertrax no-slip locker myself.
> > >
> > > > >
08-10-2004, 12:03 PM
#65
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Re: Jeep TJ - Does anyone know where i can find 30 spline axle shafts for d35c?
It's the diameter more than anything, the larger diameter exerts more
leverage on the splines, Yes, there is some truth that narrower tires will
slip sooner, but I think you would be better served with the 30-spline axles
and a locker than the 27-spline and the NoSlip.
"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0408091843.3795e48@posting.google.co m...
> I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
> width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
> 12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
> Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
> leverage to snap a locked d35?
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<10hf8hgmo7iokba@corp.supernews.com>...
> > Unless you are married to the NoSlip, I suggest you look into the full
on
> > locker that can support the 30-spline shafts.
> >
> > The 30-spline axles are worth the time and effort to locate them,
getting
> > another set of 27-spline axles will give you essentially the same thing
you
> > already have. No better, no worse.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:3ade3bcf.0408070558.c7278ef@posting.google.co m...
> > > Yukon sells a set of "heavy duty" 27 spline axle shafts for $279 a
> > > pair.
> > >
> > > http://www.4x4rockshop.com/scripts/p...idproduct=2047
> > >
> > > They have a 5 year warranty and are supposedly stronger than OEM
> > > stock. would these work better than the stock shafts? I was figuring
> > > i might run these if they are stronger than stock and use the stock
> > > shafts as my spares. Money is tight, so an arb or ox locker is out of
> > > the question. A detroit wouldnt work with my daily driver, and i
> > > believe i can install the powertrax no-slip locker myself.
> > >
> > > > >
leverage on the splines, Yes, there is some truth that narrower tires will
slip sooner, but I think you would be better served with the 30-spline axles
and a locker than the 27-spline and the NoSlip.
"Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ade3bcf.0408091843.3795e48@posting.google.co m...
> I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
> width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
> 12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
> Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
> leverage to snap a locked d35?
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<10hf8hgmo7iokba@corp.supernews.com>...
> > Unless you are married to the NoSlip, I suggest you look into the full
on
> > locker that can support the 30-spline shafts.
> >
> > The 30-spline axles are worth the time and effort to locate them,
getting
> > another set of 27-spline axles will give you essentially the same thing
you
> > already have. No better, no worse.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Derek Proctor" <dirk44@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:3ade3bcf.0408070558.c7278ef@posting.google.co m...
> > > Yukon sells a set of "heavy duty" 27 spline axle shafts for $279 a
> > > pair.
> > >
> > > http://www.4x4rockshop.com/scripts/p...idproduct=2047
> > >
> > > They have a 5 year warranty and are supposedly stronger than OEM
> > > stock. would these work better than the stock shafts? I was figuring
> > > i might run these if they are stronger than stock and use the stock
> > > shafts as my spares. Money is tight, so an arb or ox locker is out of
> > > the question. A detroit wouldnt work with my daily driver, and i
> > > believe i can install the powertrax no-slip locker myself.
> > >
> > > > >
08-10-2004, 12:11 PM
#66
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Re: Jeep TJ - Does anyone know where i can find 30 spline axle shaftsfor d35c?
Bill, take that damn music off that web page. ANNOYING.
CRWLR wrote:
> Nothing bigger or nothing smaller, Bill?
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41183965.19EA8E8@***.net...
>
>> Nothing's bigger than 33" on my page of broken axles:
>>http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ Please keep a camera in you TJ.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>
>>Derek Proctor wrote:
>>
>>>I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
>>>width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
>>>12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
>>>Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
>>>leverage to snap a locked d35?
>
>
>
CRWLR wrote:
> Nothing bigger or nothing smaller, Bill?
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41183965.19EA8E8@***.net...
>
>> Nothing's bigger than 33" on my page of broken axles:
>>http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ Please keep a camera in you TJ.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>
>>Derek Proctor wrote:
>>
>>>I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
>>>width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
>>>12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
>>>Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
>>>leverage to snap a locked d35?
>
>
>
08-10-2004, 12:11 PM
#67
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Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep TJ - Does anyone know where i can find 30 spline axle shaftsfor d35c?
Bill, take that damn music off that web page. ANNOYING.
CRWLR wrote:
> Nothing bigger or nothing smaller, Bill?
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41183965.19EA8E8@***.net...
>
>> Nothing's bigger than 33" on my page of broken axles:
>>http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ Please keep a camera in you TJ.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>
>>Derek Proctor wrote:
>>
>>>I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
>>>width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
>>>12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
>>>Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
>>>leverage to snap a locked d35?
>
>
>
CRWLR wrote:
> Nothing bigger or nothing smaller, Bill?
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41183965.19EA8E8@***.net...
>
>> Nothing's bigger than 33" on my page of broken axles:
>>http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ Please keep a camera in you TJ.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>
>>Derek Proctor wrote:
>>
>>>I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
>>>width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
>>>12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
>>>Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
>>>leverage to snap a locked d35?
>
>
>
08-10-2004, 12:11 PM
#68
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Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep TJ - Does anyone know where i can find 30 spline axle shaftsfor d35c?
Bill, take that damn music off that web page. ANNOYING.
CRWLR wrote:
> Nothing bigger or nothing smaller, Bill?
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41183965.19EA8E8@***.net...
>
>> Nothing's bigger than 33" on my page of broken axles:
>>http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ Please keep a camera in you TJ.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>
>>Derek Proctor wrote:
>>
>>>I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
>>>width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
>>>12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
>>>Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
>>>leverage to snap a locked d35?
>
>
>
CRWLR wrote:
> Nothing bigger or nothing smaller, Bill?
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41183965.19EA8E8@***.net...
>
>> Nothing's bigger than 33" on my page of broken axles:
>>http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ Please keep a camera in you TJ.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>
>>Derek Proctor wrote:
>>
>>>I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
>>>width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
>>>12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
>>>Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
>>>leverage to snap a locked d35?
>
>
>
08-10-2004, 12:11 PM
#69
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Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep TJ - Does anyone know where i can find 30 spline axle shaftsfor d35c?
Bill, take that damn music off that web page. ANNOYING.
CRWLR wrote:
> Nothing bigger or nothing smaller, Bill?
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41183965.19EA8E8@***.net...
>
>> Nothing's bigger than 33" on my page of broken axles:
>>http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ Please keep a camera in you TJ.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>
>>Derek Proctor wrote:
>>
>>>I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
>>>width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
>>>12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
>>>Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
>>>leverage to snap a locked d35?
>
>
>
CRWLR wrote:
> Nothing bigger or nothing smaller, Bill?
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41183965.19EA8E8@***.net...
>
>> Nothing's bigger than 33" on my page of broken axles:
>>http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ Please keep a camera in you TJ.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>
>>Derek Proctor wrote:
>>
>>>I got 33x10.5 mud terrains on my d35 now. is that skinnier 10.5"
>>>width less likely to snap a locked 27 spline axle than the more common
>>>12.5" wider version, having a smaller contact patch and lower weight?
>>>Or does the increased hight itself on any width 33" tire offer more
>>>leverage to snap a locked d35?
>
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08-10-2004, 12:34 PM
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Re: Jeep TJ - Does anyone know where i can find 30 spline axle shaftsfor d35c?
Hi Jeff,
Measure their pictures with some home made dividers on your screen,
proportion them against known distances like the fifteen inch rims
they're on. Know that you have to do a lot of creative lifting in order
to get anything larger than the stock 30" wheel in the Jeepettes that
come stock with this POS: http://www.----------.com/dana35c/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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CRWLR wrote:
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> Nothing bigger or nothing smaller, Bill?
Measure their pictures with some home made dividers on your screen,
proportion them against known distances like the fifteen inch rims
they're on. Know that you have to do a lot of creative lifting in order
to get anything larger than the stock 30" wheel in the Jeepettes that
come stock with this POS: http://www.----------.com/dana35c/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Nothing bigger or nothing smaller, Bill?
