Jeep reliability, Was "4 cyl. mileage"
03-31-2005, 08:45 PM
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Jeep reliability, Was "4 cyl. mileage"
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in
news:424B2783.B359367E@***.net:
> And that's how you save gas over a six, you simply can't burn
> more
> energy. Also it tells me you have over sized tires, as my
> Brother-in-law was ticketed for 95 mph in his YJ, but after the thirty
> inch tires can go no faster than seventy:
> http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html
My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
1. New transmission
2. New alternator
3. New power steering pump (twice)
4. New cat and exhaust manifold
5. New computer
6. New SKM and keys
After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
say the same thing about my Harley.
On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
Preferably a diesel.
Bill
news:424B2783.B359367E@***.net:
> And that's how you save gas over a six, you simply can't burn
> more
> energy. Also it tells me you have over sized tires, as my
> Brother-in-law was ticketed for 95 mph in his YJ, but after the thirty
> inch tires can go no faster than seventy:
> http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html
My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
1. New transmission
2. New alternator
3. New power steering pump (twice)
4. New cat and exhaust manifold
5. New computer
6. New SKM and keys
After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
say the same thing about my Harley.
On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
Preferably a diesel.
Bill
03-31-2005, 09:44 PM
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Re: Jeep reliability, Was "4 cyl. mileage"
Yes, we play on the ragged edge, always Jeep with another. Beside
what good is it to climb that cliff if there's no one there to show off
in front of.
Big Bend is beautiful, my boss had a deer lease there, and would
regularly fly us in from East Texas. Darn Sixties Minutes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
El Alumbrado wrote:
>
> My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
> delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
> I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
> that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
>
> 1. New transmission
> 2. New alternator
> 3. New power steering pump (twice)
> 4. New cat and exhaust manifold
> 5. New computer
> 6. New SKM and keys
>
> After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
> has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
> I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
> powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
> getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
> found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
> the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
> to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
> rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
> fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
> ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
> trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
> paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
>
> Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
> say the same thing about my Harley.
>
> On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
> and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
> either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
> Preferably a diesel.
>
> Bill
what good is it to climb that cliff if there's no one there to show off
in front of.
Big Bend is beautiful, my boss had a deer lease there, and would
regularly fly us in from East Texas. Darn Sixties Minutes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
El Alumbrado wrote:
>
> My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
> delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
> I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
> that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
>
> 1. New transmission
> 2. New alternator
> 3. New power steering pump (twice)
> 4. New cat and exhaust manifold
> 5. New computer
> 6. New SKM and keys
>
> After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
> has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
> I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
> powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
> getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
> found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
> the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
> to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
> rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
> fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
> ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
> trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
> paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
>
> Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
> say the same thing about my Harley.
>
> On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
> and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
> either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
> Preferably a diesel.
>
> Bill
03-31-2005, 09:44 PM
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Re: Jeep reliability, Was "4 cyl. mileage"
Yes, we play on the ragged edge, always Jeep with another. Beside
what good is it to climb that cliff if there's no one there to show off
in front of.
Big Bend is beautiful, my boss had a deer lease there, and would
regularly fly us in from East Texas. Darn Sixties Minutes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
El Alumbrado wrote:
>
> My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
> delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
> I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
> that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
>
> 1. New transmission
> 2. New alternator
> 3. New power steering pump (twice)
> 4. New cat and exhaust manifold
> 5. New computer
> 6. New SKM and keys
>
> After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
> has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
> I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
> powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
> getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
> found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
> the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
> to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
> rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
> fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
> ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
> trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
> paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
>
> Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
> say the same thing about my Harley.
>
> On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
> and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
> either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
> Preferably a diesel.
>
> Bill
what good is it to climb that cliff if there's no one there to show off
in front of.
Big Bend is beautiful, my boss had a deer lease there, and would
regularly fly us in from East Texas. Darn Sixties Minutes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
El Alumbrado wrote:
>
> My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
> delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
> I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
> that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
>
> 1. New transmission
> 2. New alternator
> 3. New power steering pump (twice)
> 4. New cat and exhaust manifold
> 5. New computer
> 6. New SKM and keys
>
> After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
> has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
> I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
> powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
> getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
> found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
> the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
> to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
> rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
> fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
> ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
> trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
> paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
>
> Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
> say the same thing about my Harley.
>
> On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
> and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
> either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
> Preferably a diesel.
>
> Bill
03-31-2005, 09:44 PM
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Re: Jeep reliability, Was "4 cyl. mileage"
Yes, we play on the ragged edge, always Jeep with another. Beside
what good is it to climb that cliff if there's no one there to show off
in front of.
Big Bend is beautiful, my boss had a deer lease there, and would
regularly fly us in from East Texas. Darn Sixties Minutes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
El Alumbrado wrote:
>
> My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
> delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
> I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
> that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
>
> 1. New transmission
> 2. New alternator
> 3. New power steering pump (twice)
> 4. New cat and exhaust manifold
> 5. New computer
> 6. New SKM and keys
>
> After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
> has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
> I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
> powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
> getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
> found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
> the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
> to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
> rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
> fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
> ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
> trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
> paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
>
> Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
> say the same thing about my Harley.
>
> On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
> and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
> either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
> Preferably a diesel.
>
> Bill
what good is it to climb that cliff if there's no one there to show off
in front of.
Big Bend is beautiful, my boss had a deer lease there, and would
regularly fly us in from East Texas. Darn Sixties Minutes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
El Alumbrado wrote:
>
> My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
> delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
> I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
> that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
>
> 1. New transmission
> 2. New alternator
> 3. New power steering pump (twice)
> 4. New cat and exhaust manifold
> 5. New computer
> 6. New SKM and keys
>
> After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
> has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
> I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
> powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
> getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
> found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
> the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
> to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
> rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
> fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
> ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
> trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
> paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
>
> Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
> say the same thing about my Harley.
>
> On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
> and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
> either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
> Preferably a diesel.
>
> Bill
03-31-2005, 10:13 PM
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Re: Jeep reliability, Was "4 cyl. mileage"
"El Alumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns962ACAA7D936FelNOSPAMalumbradoyah@63.223.7 .253...
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in
> news:424B2783.B359367E@***.net:
>
>> And that's how you save gas over a six, you simply can't burn
>> more
>> energy. Also it tells me you have over sized tires, as my
>> Brother-in-law was ticketed for 95 mph in his YJ, but after the thirty
>> inch tires can go no faster than seventy:
>> http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html
>
> My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
> delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
> I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
> that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
>
> 1. New transmission
> 2. New alternator
> 3. New power steering pump (twice)
> 4. New cat and exhaust manifold
> 5. New computer
> 6. New SKM and keys
>
> After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
> has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
> I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
> powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
> getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
> found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
> the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
> to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
> rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
> fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
> ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
> trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
> paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
>
> Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
> say the same thing about my Harley.
>
> On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
> and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
> either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
> Preferably a diesel.
>
> Bill
>
Both my harley and my wrangler run fine... must be you.
walt
'93 YJ
'91 FXR
03-31-2005, 10:13 PM
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Re: Jeep reliability, Was "4 cyl. mileage"
"El Alumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns962ACAA7D936FelNOSPAMalumbradoyah@63.223.7 .253...
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in
> news:424B2783.B359367E@***.net:
>
>> And that's how you save gas over a six, you simply can't burn
>> more
>> energy. Also it tells me you have over sized tires, as my
>> Brother-in-law was ticketed for 95 mph in his YJ, but after the thirty
>> inch tires can go no faster than seventy:
>> http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html
>
> My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
> delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
> I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
> that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
>
> 1. New transmission
> 2. New alternator
> 3. New power steering pump (twice)
> 4. New cat and exhaust manifold
> 5. New computer
> 6. New SKM and keys
>
> After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
> has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
> I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
> powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
> getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
> found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
> the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
> to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
> rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
> fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
> ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
> trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
> paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
>
> Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
> say the same thing about my Harley.
>
> On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
> and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
> either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
> Preferably a diesel.
>
> Bill
>
Both my harley and my wrangler run fine... must be you.
walt
'93 YJ
'91 FXR
03-31-2005, 10:13 PM
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Re: Jeep reliability, Was "4 cyl. mileage"
"El Alumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns962ACAA7D936FelNOSPAMalumbradoyah@63.223.7 .253...
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in
> news:424B2783.B359367E@***.net:
>
>> And that's how you save gas over a six, you simply can't burn
>> more
>> energy. Also it tells me you have over sized tires, as my
>> Brother-in-law was ticketed for 95 mph in his YJ, but after the thirty
>> inch tires can go no faster than seventy:
>> http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html
>
> My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
> delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
> I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
> that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
>
> 1. New transmission
> 2. New alternator
> 3. New power steering pump (twice)
> 4. New cat and exhaust manifold
> 5. New computer
> 6. New SKM and keys
>
> After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
> has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
> I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
> powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
> getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
> found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
> the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
> to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
> rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
> fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
> ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
> trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
> paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
>
> Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
> say the same thing about my Harley.
>
> On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
> and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
> either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
> Preferably a diesel.
>
> Bill
>
Both my harley and my wrangler run fine... must be you.
walt
'93 YJ
'91 FXR
03-31-2005, 11:42 PM
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Re: Jeep reliability, Was "4 cyl. mileage"
Wow, 14-15mpg? My 99 w/a 2.5L gets 18mpg and I have 4" of lift with
33x12.5R15 BFG MTs. And yes, I've replaced the speedo gear and verified it
with a GPS.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"El Alumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns962ACAA7D936FelNOSPAMalumbradoyah@63.223.7 .253...
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in
> news:424B2783.B359367E@***.net:
>
>> And that's how you save gas over a six, you simply can't burn
>> more
>> energy. Also it tells me you have over sized tires, as my
>> Brother-in-law was ticketed for 95 mph in his YJ, but after the thirty
>> inch tires can go no faster than seventy:
>> http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html
>
> My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
> delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
> I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
> that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
>
> 1. New transmission
> 2. New alternator
> 3. New power steering pump (twice)
> 4. New cat and exhaust manifold
> 5. New computer
> 6. New SKM and keys
>
> After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
> has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
> I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
> powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
> getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
> found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
> the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
> to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
> rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
> fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
> ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
> trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
> paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
>
> Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
> say the same thing about my Harley.
>
> On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
> and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
> either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
> Preferably a diesel.
>
> Bill
>
>
33x12.5R15 BFG MTs. And yes, I've replaced the speedo gear and verified it
with a GPS.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"El Alumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns962ACAA7D936FelNOSPAMalumbradoyah@63.223.7 .253...
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in
> news:424B2783.B359367E@***.net:
>
>> And that's how you save gas over a six, you simply can't burn
>> more
>> energy. Also it tells me you have over sized tires, as my
>> Brother-in-law was ticketed for 95 mph in his YJ, but after the thirty
>> inch tires can go no faster than seventy:
>> http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html
>
> My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
> delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
> I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
> that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
>
> 1. New transmission
> 2. New alternator
> 3. New power steering pump (twice)
> 4. New cat and exhaust manifold
> 5. New computer
> 6. New SKM and keys
>
> After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
> has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
> I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
> powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
> getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
> found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
> the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
> to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
> rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
> fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
> ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
> trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
> paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
>
> Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
> say the same thing about my Harley.
>
> On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
> and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
> either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
> Preferably a diesel.
>
> Bill
>
>
03-31-2005, 11:42 PM
#9
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep reliability, Was "4 cyl. mileage"
Wow, 14-15mpg? My 99 w/a 2.5L gets 18mpg and I have 4" of lift with
33x12.5R15 BFG MTs. And yes, I've replaced the speedo gear and verified it
with a GPS.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"El Alumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns962ACAA7D936FelNOSPAMalumbradoyah@63.223.7 .253...
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in
> news:424B2783.B359367E@***.net:
>
>> And that's how you save gas over a six, you simply can't burn
>> more
>> energy. Also it tells me you have over sized tires, as my
>> Brother-in-law was ticketed for 95 mph in his YJ, but after the thirty
>> inch tires can go no faster than seventy:
>> http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html
>
> My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
> delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
> I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
> that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
>
> 1. New transmission
> 2. New alternator
> 3. New power steering pump (twice)
> 4. New cat and exhaust manifold
> 5. New computer
> 6. New SKM and keys
>
> After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
> has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
> I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
> powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
> getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
> found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
> the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
> to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
> rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
> fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
> ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
> trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
> paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
>
> Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
> say the same thing about my Harley.
>
> On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
> and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
> either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
> Preferably a diesel.
>
> Bill
>
>
33x12.5R15 BFG MTs. And yes, I've replaced the speedo gear and verified it
with a GPS.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"El Alumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns962ACAA7D936FelNOSPAMalumbradoyah@63.223.7 .253...
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in
> news:424B2783.B359367E@***.net:
>
>> And that's how you save gas over a six, you simply can't burn
>> more
>> energy. Also it tells me you have over sized tires, as my
>> Brother-in-law was ticketed for 95 mph in his YJ, but after the thirty
>> inch tires can go no faster than seventy:
>> http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html
>
> My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
> delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
> I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
> that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
>
> 1. New transmission
> 2. New alternator
> 3. New power steering pump (twice)
> 4. New cat and exhaust manifold
> 5. New computer
> 6. New SKM and keys
>
> After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
> has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
> I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
> powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
> getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
> found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
> the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
> to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
> rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
> fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
> ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
> trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
> paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
>
> Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
> say the same thing about my Harley.
>
> On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
> and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
> either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
> Preferably a diesel.
>
> Bill
>
>
03-31-2005, 11:42 PM
#10
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep reliability, Was "4 cyl. mileage"
Wow, 14-15mpg? My 99 w/a 2.5L gets 18mpg and I have 4" of lift with
33x12.5R15 BFG MTs. And yes, I've replaced the speedo gear and verified it
with a GPS.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"El Alumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns962ACAA7D936FelNOSPAMalumbradoyah@63.223.7 .253...
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in
> news:424B2783.B359367E@***.net:
>
>> And that's how you save gas over a six, you simply can't burn
>> more
>> energy. Also it tells me you have over sized tires, as my
>> Brother-in-law was ticketed for 95 mph in his YJ, but after the thirty
>> inch tires can go no faster than seventy:
>> http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html
>
> My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
> delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
> I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
> that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
>
> 1. New transmission
> 2. New alternator
> 3. New power steering pump (twice)
> 4. New cat and exhaust manifold
> 5. New computer
> 6. New SKM and keys
>
> After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
> has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
> I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
> powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
> getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
> found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
> the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
> to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
> rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
> fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
> ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
> trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
> paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
>
> Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
> say the same thing about my Harley.
>
> On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
> and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
> either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
> Preferably a diesel.
>
> Bill
>
>
33x12.5R15 BFG MTs. And yes, I've replaced the speedo gear and verified it
with a GPS.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"El Alumbrado" <elNOSPAMalumbrado@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns962ACAA7D936FelNOSPAMalumbradoyah@63.223.7 .253...
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in
> news:424B2783.B359367E@***.net:
>
>> And that's how you save gas over a six, you simply can't burn
>> more
>> energy. Also it tells me you have over sized tires, as my
>> Brother-in-law was ticketed for 95 mph in his YJ, but after the thirty
>> inch tires can go no faster than seventy:
>> http://home.att.net/~taschers/index.html
>
> My 2000 Wrangler 4-banger is box-stock, as delivered from the dealer,
> delivers 14-15mpg, and *will not* do more than 70 mph. The only thing
> I've done since new (now 45K) is oil changes, lube, and filters. Well,
> that and the following repairs (all under warranty, thank God):
>
> 1. New transmission
> 2. New alternator
> 3. New power steering pump (twice)
> 4. New cat and exhaust manifold
> 5. New computer
> 6. New SKM and keys
>
> After owning a TJ, a YJ, and two CJ's over the last 20 years, experience
> has taught me to *never* drive a Jeep farther into the back-country than
> I'm willing to walk in an afternoon (and *always* sell it before the
> powertrain warranty runs out). Our most recent adventure involved
> getting stuck in Big Bend country for 10 hours (until the Border Patrol
> found us) because the %&@^#%$ "computer" decided we had tried to start
> the thing with the "wrong key" and kept firing the ASD circuit. I'd like
> to rip the whole SKM subsystem out, prefering that the Jeep be stolen
> rather than leave us stranded in the boonies when the "security" system
> fails again (our Wrangler divides it's time between fence running on our
> ranch, being towed behind our motorhome, and exploring fire roads,
> trails, and the deserts of the Southwest; it spends almost zero time on
> paved roads, other than when it's being towed).
>
> Jeep's are a blast, but mechanically they're crap. Of course, I could
> say the same thing about my Harley.
>
> On the other side of the spectrum, I've owned two Toyota FJ40s (a '74
> and a '79) and never experienced a single problem of any kind with
> either of them. Wish you could still buy one here in the States.
> Preferably a diesel.
>
> Bill
>
>
