Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
 

It's up to 128,000 miles now Del, not doing too bad at all for that many
miles either. :) How's that winch doing? My TJ's issues are all
owner-inflicted as well. ;)

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"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
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> On 22 Nov 2003 06:45 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> > Heh, I always have to laugh at the trolls.
>
> How many miles does your Jeep have on it these days, Jerry? Not to
> mention all of the hard wheeling. My brother's '97 TJ is over 100K now
> and the only problems he has had with it have all been self-inflicted.
>
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Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
 

It's up to 128,000 miles now Del, not doing too bad at all for that many
miles either. :) How's that winch doing? My TJ's issues are all
owner-inflicted as well. ;)

Jerry
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"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
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> On 22 Nov 2003 06:45 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> > Heh, I always have to laugh at the trolls.
>
> How many miles does your Jeep have on it these days, Jerry? Not to
> mention all of the hard wheeling. My brother's '97 TJ is over 100K now
> and the only problems he has had with it have all been self-inflicted.
>
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Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
 

On 22 Nov 2003 08:23 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> It's up to 128,000 miles now Del, not doing too bad at all for that
> many miles either. :) How's that winch doing? My TJ's issues are all
> owner-inflicted as well. ;)

The winch is doing great although I haven't had to use it for self-
recovery since the summer after I bought it from you, when I needed it
twice for myself, and once for my brother's Jeep. Since then all I've
used it for is pulling heavy objects around, like some buried chainlink
fence that I dug out using the winch and a pull-pal, and the shed we
moved about 50 feet uphill, plowing a swath the whole way (that brush
needed cutting anyway). Had to chain the rear of the Jeep to a tree for
that one. I tried to pull a stump with it last summer but it just moved
the Jeep, and my '73 3/4 ton chevy which I had chained the Jeep to.
Needed more chainsaw action. I moved to Los Anchorage a couple years
ago and I just haven't been getting out 4 wheeling as much since then.

Hey that reminds me, there is an incoming Alaskan Jeeper heading for the
southwest. My little brother just finished his masters degree at GWU/
NASA Langley in Virginia and is taking an aerospace engineering job in
Tucson; he should be there sometime in January. I don't know if he'd be
able to keep up with you guys on some of the trails you run, but he was
talking about building the Jeep up more anyway. His current setup is a
Tera 2T with 31" MT/Rs with lots of armor and a Warn like yours on a '97
4 cylinder TJ.

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Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
 

On 22 Nov 2003 08:23 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> It's up to 128,000 miles now Del, not doing too bad at all for that
> many miles either. :) How's that winch doing? My TJ's issues are all
> owner-inflicted as well. ;)

The winch is doing great although I haven't had to use it for self-
recovery since the summer after I bought it from you, when I needed it
twice for myself, and once for my brother's Jeep. Since then all I've
used it for is pulling heavy objects around, like some buried chainlink
fence that I dug out using the winch and a pull-pal, and the shed we
moved about 50 feet uphill, plowing a swath the whole way (that brush
needed cutting anyway). Had to chain the rear of the Jeep to a tree for
that one. I tried to pull a stump with it last summer but it just moved
the Jeep, and my '73 3/4 ton chevy which I had chained the Jeep to.
Needed more chainsaw action. I moved to Los Anchorage a couple years
ago and I just haven't been getting out 4 wheeling as much since then.

Hey that reminds me, there is an incoming Alaskan Jeeper heading for the
southwest. My little brother just finished his masters degree at GWU/
NASA Langley in Virginia and is taking an aerospace engineering job in
Tucson; he should be there sometime in January. I don't know if he'd be
able to keep up with you guys on some of the trails you run, but he was
talking about building the Jeep up more anyway. His current setup is a
Tera 2T with 31" MT/Rs with lots of armor and a Warn like yours on a '97
4 cylinder TJ.

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Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
 

On 22 Nov 2003 08:23 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> It's up to 128,000 miles now Del, not doing too bad at all for that
> many miles either. :) How's that winch doing? My TJ's issues are all
> owner-inflicted as well. ;)

The winch is doing great although I haven't had to use it for self-
recovery since the summer after I bought it from you, when I needed it
twice for myself, and once for my brother's Jeep. Since then all I've
used it for is pulling heavy objects around, like some buried chainlink
fence that I dug out using the winch and a pull-pal, and the shed we
moved about 50 feet uphill, plowing a swath the whole way (that brush
needed cutting anyway). Had to chain the rear of the Jeep to a tree for
that one. I tried to pull a stump with it last summer but it just moved
the Jeep, and my '73 3/4 ton chevy which I had chained the Jeep to.
Needed more chainsaw action. I moved to Los Anchorage a couple years
ago and I just haven't been getting out 4 wheeling as much since then.

Hey that reminds me, there is an incoming Alaskan Jeeper heading for the
southwest. My little brother just finished his masters degree at GWU/
NASA Langley in Virginia and is taking an aerospace engineering job in
Tucson; he should be there sometime in January. I don't know if he'd be
able to keep up with you guys on some of the trails you run, but he was
talking about building the Jeep up more anyway. His current setup is a
Tera 2T with 31" MT/Rs with lots of armor and a Warn like yours on a '97
4 cylinder TJ.

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Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
 

Pure bullsh*t.

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"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"Don" <Not@This.Address> wrote in message
news:w1Wvb.993$ZE1.110@fed1read04...
> If a Ford is a 4, then I'd have to say a Jeep would be about a -20. Maybe
> the CJ a -10.
>
> Note I'm note talking about off road capability - no arguments there -
most
> Jeeps do well there. Note I say most Jeeps - the Liberty being the
> exception. Just plain reliability, mechanical, etc, the Jeeps fall apart.
>
> Sorry to you Jeep lovers - just from my and every one I know experience.
>
>
>
>
> "Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message
> news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m...
> > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of
> > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it
> > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty
> > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability.
> >
> > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are
> > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other
> > safety features?
> >
> >
> > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to
> > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock
> > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a
> > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how
> > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts
> > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra
> > has this problem )
> >
> >
> > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front
> > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and
> > reliability?
> >
> > Thank you all for your help,
> >
> > Paul Thomas
>
>

Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
 

Pure bullsh*t.

--
Jim
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98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"Don" <Not@This.Address> wrote in message
news:w1Wvb.993$ZE1.110@fed1read04...
> If a Ford is a 4, then I'd have to say a Jeep would be about a -20. Maybe
> the CJ a -10.
>
> Note I'm note talking about off road capability - no arguments there -
most
> Jeeps do well there. Note I say most Jeeps - the Liberty being the
> exception. Just plain reliability, mechanical, etc, the Jeeps fall apart.
>
> Sorry to you Jeep lovers - just from my and every one I know experience.
>
>
>
>
> "Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message
> news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m...
> > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of
> > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it
> > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty
> > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability.
> >
> > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are
> > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other
> > safety features?
> >
> >
> > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to
> > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock
> > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a
> > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how
> > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts
> > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra
> > has this problem )
> >
> >
> > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front
> > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and
> > reliability?
> >
> > Thank you all for your help,
> >
> > Paul Thomas
>
>

Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
 

Pure bullsh*t.

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"Don" <Not@This.Address> wrote in message
news:w1Wvb.993$ZE1.110@fed1read04...
> If a Ford is a 4, then I'd have to say a Jeep would be about a -20. Maybe
> the CJ a -10.
>
> Note I'm note talking about off road capability - no arguments there -
most
> Jeeps do well there. Note I say most Jeeps - the Liberty being the
> exception. Just plain reliability, mechanical, etc, the Jeeps fall apart.
>
> Sorry to you Jeep lovers - just from my and every one I know experience.
>
>
>
>
> "Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message
> news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m...
> > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of
> > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it
> > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty
> > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability.
> >
> > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are
> > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other
> > safety features?
> >
> >
> > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to
> > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock
> > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a
> > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how
> > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts
> > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra
> > has this problem )
> >
> >
> > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front
> > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and
> > reliability?
> >
> > Thank you all for your help,
> >
> > Paul Thomas
>
>

Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
 

TJim wrote:
>
> Pure bullsh*t.
>
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Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
 

TJim wrote:
>
> Pure bullsh*t.
>
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