Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
Looks like the libby has about half the Cherokee's eight inches of
travel when comparing replacement shocks: http://www.----------.com/libbyCherokee.htm God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "C. E. White" wrote: > > I can accept the "greater loads" part of your comments, but I don't agree with > (or at least understand) the part about "greater travel." I know this is often > claimed, but the only web site that made the case was so full of holes as to be > useless. Maybe you can explain it to me. I believe that a properly designed IRS > can have more ground clearance that a solid axle design. Unfortunately > retrofitting such a system is difficult and expensive. In the context of the > original question, why do you think the Liberties IFS is worse than the > Cherokee's beam axle as long as both remain unmodified? > > Ever see a Jeepster? > > Ed |
Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
"Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m... > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability. > > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other > safety features? > > > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra > has this problem ) > > > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and > reliability? > > Thank you all for your help, > > Paul Thomas I would stay away from any Chrysler products. Liberty is ok, but I have a few associates that have more than average share of problems with them. Consider a Toyota 4runner. Little more roomy, very comfortable, and very reliable. |
Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
"Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m... > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability. > > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other > safety features? > > > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra > has this problem ) > > > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and > reliability? > > Thank you all for your help, > > Paul Thomas I would stay away from any Chrysler products. Liberty is ok, but I have a few associates that have more than average share of problems with them. Consider a Toyota 4runner. Little more roomy, very comfortable, and very reliable. |
Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
"Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m... > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability. > > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other > safety features? > > > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra > has this problem ) > > > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and > reliability? > > Thank you all for your help, > > Paul Thomas I would stay away from any Chrysler products. Liberty is ok, but I have a few associates that have more than average share of problems with them. Consider a Toyota 4runner. Little more roomy, very comfortable, and very reliable. |
Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
"Dan J.S." wrote: > "Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message > news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m... > > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of > > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it > > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty > > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability. > > > > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are > > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other > > safety features? > > > > > > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to > > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock > > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a > > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how > > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts > > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra > > has this problem ) > > > > > > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front > > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and > > reliability? > > > > Thank you all for your help, > > > > Paul Thomas > > I would stay away from any Chrysler products. Liberty is ok, but I have a > few associates that have more than average share of problems with them. > Consider a Toyota 4runner. Little more roomy, very comfortable, and very > reliable. And very expensive. Hopefully the revised 4Runner is safer than the old one which had one of the highest injury loss rating of any SUV sold in the US. I don't thik a person considering a Liberty is really in the market for a 4Runner. Ed |
Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
"Dan J.S." wrote: > "Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message > news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m... > > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of > > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it > > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty > > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability. > > > > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are > > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other > > safety features? > > > > > > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to > > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock > > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a > > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how > > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts > > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra > > has this problem ) > > > > > > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front > > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and > > reliability? > > > > Thank you all for your help, > > > > Paul Thomas > > I would stay away from any Chrysler products. Liberty is ok, but I have a > few associates that have more than average share of problems with them. > Consider a Toyota 4runner. Little more roomy, very comfortable, and very > reliable. And very expensive. Hopefully the revised 4Runner is safer than the old one which had one of the highest injury loss rating of any SUV sold in the US. I don't thik a person considering a Liberty is really in the market for a 4Runner. Ed |
Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
"Dan J.S." wrote: > "Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message > news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m... > > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of > > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it > > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty > > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability. > > > > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are > > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other > > safety features? > > > > > > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to > > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock > > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a > > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how > > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts > > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra > > has this problem ) > > > > > > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front > > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and > > reliability? > > > > Thank you all for your help, > > > > Paul Thomas > > I would stay away from any Chrysler products. Liberty is ok, but I have a > few associates that have more than average share of problems with them. > Consider a Toyota 4runner. Little more roomy, very comfortable, and very > reliable. And very expensive. Hopefully the revised 4Runner is safer than the old one which had one of the highest injury loss rating of any SUV sold in the US. I don't thik a person considering a Liberty is really in the market for a 4Runner. Ed |
Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:3FBE358A.12002511@mindspring.com... > > > "Dan J.S." wrote: > > > "Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message > > news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m... > > > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of > > > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it > > > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty > > > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability. > > > > > > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are > > > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other > > > safety features? > > > > > > > > > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to > > > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock > > > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a > > > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how > > > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts > > > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra > > > has this problem ) > > > > > > > > > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front > > > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and > > > reliability? > > > > > > Thank you all for your help, > > > > > > Paul Thomas > > > > I would stay away from any Chrysler products. Liberty is ok, but I have a > > few associates that have more than average share of problems with them. > > Consider a Toyota 4runner. Little more roomy, very comfortable, and very > > reliable. > > And very expensive. Hopefully the revised 4Runner is safer than the old one > which had one of the highest injury loss rating of any SUV sold in the US. > > I don't thik a person considering a Liberty is really in the market for a > 4Runner. > > Ed > Isuzu Trooper. the new models are goign cheap because they're the last of the model, theres a new US built design replacing the Jap built ones soon. So don't expect a good resale price, but if you buy one and hang on to it, they're cheap now. rhys |
Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:3FBE358A.12002511@mindspring.com... > > > "Dan J.S." wrote: > > > "Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message > > news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m... > > > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of > > > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it > > > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty > > > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability. > > > > > > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are > > > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other > > > safety features? > > > > > > > > > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to > > > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock > > > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a > > > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how > > > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts > > > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra > > > has this problem ) > > > > > > > > > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front > > > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and > > > reliability? > > > > > > Thank you all for your help, > > > > > > Paul Thomas > > > > I would stay away from any Chrysler products. Liberty is ok, but I have a > > few associates that have more than average share of problems with them. > > Consider a Toyota 4runner. Little more roomy, very comfortable, and very > > reliable. > > And very expensive. Hopefully the revised 4Runner is safer than the old one > which had one of the highest injury loss rating of any SUV sold in the US. > > I don't thik a person considering a Liberty is really in the market for a > 4Runner. > > Ed > Isuzu Trooper. the new models are goign cheap because they're the last of the model, theres a new US built design replacing the Jap built ones soon. So don't expect a good resale price, but if you buy one and hang on to it, they're cheap now. rhys |
Re: Jeep Liberty : Reliability, Safety, IFS ??
"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:3FBE358A.12002511@mindspring.com... > > > "Dan J.S." wrote: > > > "Paul Thomas" <Paul.Thomas2@cingular.com> wrote in message > > news:8f958472.0311192211.e8cddbb@posting.google.co m... > > > I am thinking of buying a Jeep Liberty. There had been a lot of > > > discussion about this SUV in the newsgroups. I understand overall it > > > is a pretty good vehicle. There are a couple of things about liberty > > > that I would like to know. Safety and Reliability. > > > > > > Safety : How safe is it? I am new to SUVs and I hear that SUVs are > > > vulnerable to tip over. How is jeep's record on this? How about other > > > safety features? > > > > > > > > > Reliability : How reliable is Liberty? I am going to use it only to > > > commute to and from work and may be some camping. Strictly no rock > > > climbing or extreme off roading of any sort. If you give Honda a > > > reliability rating of 10 and a Ford a reliability rating of 4 how > > > would you rate Liberty? ( Remember no offroading). Does the parts > > > start malfunctioning after a couple of years? (I hear Nissan Xterra > > > has this problem ) > > > > > > > > > I am a novice in autos. What is the deal with independent front > > > suspension and solid rear axle? How does it affect comfort and > > > reliability? > > > > > > Thank you all for your help, > > > > > > Paul Thomas > > > > I would stay away from any Chrysler products. Liberty is ok, but I have a > > few associates that have more than average share of problems with them. > > Consider a Toyota 4runner. Little more roomy, very comfortable, and very > > reliable. > > And very expensive. Hopefully the revised 4Runner is safer than the old one > which had one of the highest injury loss rating of any SUV sold in the US. > > I don't thik a person considering a Liberty is really in the market for a > 4Runner. > > Ed > Isuzu Trooper. the new models are goign cheap because they're the last of the model, theres a new US built design replacing the Jap built ones soon. So don't expect a good resale price, but if you buy one and hang on to it, they're cheap now. rhys |
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