Harry Palmer

"Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
news:UaOPf.57480$dW3.44298@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
> Hi there
>
> My wife has a 2002 Jeep Cherokee grand and just drove it 20 miles from
> college. She drove it into the garage and shut the engine down. As she was
> getting out she noticed that the seat didn't roll back to let her get out
> easily. She also noticed that she couldn't open any of the other doors (
the
> drivers was already open.) No lights were on at all and when she turned
the
> key in the ignition nothing and I mean nothing at all happened. No lights,
> no starter nothing at all. Anyone know what might be happening here
pleaes?
>
>
>
> --
> Stand firm in your refusal to remain conscious during algebra. In real
life,
> I assure you, there is no such thing as algebra.
>
>

I charged it up overnight and it seemed to start ok this morning, I'll check
the battery as you guys suggest. I'm hoping it's not the alternator. I have
had nothing but problems with this Jeep, I miss my 1988 $700 one, never had
a days problems with it. This one is a piece of ----, excuse the language.

Hp

RoyJ

In spite of the fact that it's running, I'd do the following

-have a local shop do a battery check on the machine. If the battery was
really low or going bad, it will show. A 2002 on the OEM battery is
clearly ready for a new battery now or shortly. I'd even consdier
getting a new battery at your local discount place. A battery costs $10
a year, you wife will appreciate not having a dead battery late at
night. (Major understatement here!)
-Pull and clean the battery terminals. (I've already been down this road
this week with my tractor: no lights no click. Cleaned terminal, away it
went)
-Check tension and condition of the belt. Replace as neeeded.

Harry Palmer wrote:
> "Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
> news:UaOPf.57480$dW3.44298@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>Hi there
>>
>> My wife has a 2002 Jeep Cherokee grand and just drove it 20 miles from
>>college. She drove it into the garage and shut the engine down. As she was
>>getting out she noticed that the seat didn't roll back to let her get out
>>easily. She also noticed that she couldn't open any of the other doors (
>
> the
>
>>drivers was already open.) No lights were on at all and when she turned
>
> the
>
>>key in the ignition nothing and I mean nothing at all happened. No lights,
>>no starter nothing at all. Anyone know what might be happening here
>
> pleaes?
>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Stand firm in your refusal to remain conscious during algebra. In real
>
> life,
>
>>I assure you, there is no such thing as algebra.
>>
>>
>
>
> I charged it up overnight and it seemed to start ok this morning, I'll check
> the battery as you guys suggest. I'm hoping it's not the alternator. I have
> had nothing but problems with this Jeep, I miss my 1988 $700 one, never had
> a days problems with it. This one is a piece of ----, excuse the language.
>
> Hp
>
>

RoyJ

In spite of the fact that it's running, I'd do the following

-have a local shop do a battery check on the machine. If the battery was
really low or going bad, it will show. A 2002 on the OEM battery is
clearly ready for a new battery now or shortly. I'd even consdier
getting a new battery at your local discount place. A battery costs $10
a year, you wife will appreciate not having a dead battery late at
night. (Major understatement here!)
-Pull and clean the battery terminals. (I've already been down this road
this week with my tractor: no lights no click. Cleaned terminal, away it
went)
-Check tension and condition of the belt. Replace as neeeded.

Harry Palmer wrote:
> "Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
> news:UaOPf.57480$dW3.44298@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>Hi there
>>
>> My wife has a 2002 Jeep Cherokee grand and just drove it 20 miles from
>>college. She drove it into the garage and shut the engine down. As she was
>>getting out she noticed that the seat didn't roll back to let her get out
>>easily. She also noticed that she couldn't open any of the other doors (
>
> the
>
>>drivers was already open.) No lights were on at all and when she turned
>
> the
>
>>key in the ignition nothing and I mean nothing at all happened. No lights,
>>no starter nothing at all. Anyone know what might be happening here
>
> pleaes?
>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Stand firm in your refusal to remain conscious during algebra. In real
>
> life,
>
>>I assure you, there is no such thing as algebra.
>>
>>
>
>
> I charged it up overnight and it seemed to start ok this morning, I'll check
> the battery as you guys suggest. I'm hoping it's not the alternator. I have
> had nothing but problems with this Jeep, I miss my 1988 $700 one, never had
> a days problems with it. This one is a piece of ----, excuse the language.
>
> Hp
>
>

RoyJ

In spite of the fact that it's running, I'd do the following

-have a local shop do a battery check on the machine. If the battery was
really low or going bad, it will show. A 2002 on the OEM battery is
clearly ready for a new battery now or shortly. I'd even consdier
getting a new battery at your local discount place. A battery costs $10
a year, you wife will appreciate not having a dead battery late at
night. (Major understatement here!)
-Pull and clean the battery terminals. (I've already been down this road
this week with my tractor: no lights no click. Cleaned terminal, away it
went)
-Check tension and condition of the belt. Replace as neeeded.

Harry Palmer wrote:
> "Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
> news:UaOPf.57480$dW3.44298@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>Hi there
>>
>> My wife has a 2002 Jeep Cherokee grand and just drove it 20 miles from
>>college. She drove it into the garage and shut the engine down. As she was
>>getting out she noticed that the seat didn't roll back to let her get out
>>easily. She also noticed that she couldn't open any of the other doors (
>
> the
>
>>drivers was already open.) No lights were on at all and when she turned
>
> the
>
>>key in the ignition nothing and I mean nothing at all happened. No lights,
>>no starter nothing at all. Anyone know what might be happening here
>
> pleaes?
>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Stand firm in your refusal to remain conscious during algebra. In real
>
> life,
>
>>I assure you, there is no such thing as algebra.
>>
>>
>
>
> I charged it up overnight and it seemed to start ok this morning, I'll check
> the battery as you guys suggest. I'm hoping it's not the alternator. I have
> had nothing but problems with this Jeep, I miss my 1988 $700 one, never had
> a days problems with it. This one is a piece of ----, excuse the language.
>
> Hp
>
>

RoyJ

In spite of the fact that it's running, I'd do the following

-have a local shop do a battery check on the machine. If the battery was
really low or going bad, it will show. A 2002 on the OEM battery is
clearly ready for a new battery now or shortly. I'd even consdier
getting a new battery at your local discount place. A battery costs $10
a year, you wife will appreciate not having a dead battery late at
night. (Major understatement here!)
-Pull and clean the battery terminals. (I've already been down this road
this week with my tractor: no lights no click. Cleaned terminal, away it
went)
-Check tension and condition of the belt. Replace as neeeded.

Harry Palmer wrote:
> "Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
> news:UaOPf.57480$dW3.44298@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>Hi there
>>
>> My wife has a 2002 Jeep Cherokee grand and just drove it 20 miles from
>>college. She drove it into the garage and shut the engine down. As she was
>>getting out she noticed that the seat didn't roll back to let her get out
>>easily. She also noticed that she couldn't open any of the other doors (
>
> the
>
>>drivers was already open.) No lights were on at all and when she turned
>
> the
>
>>key in the ignition nothing and I mean nothing at all happened. No lights,
>>no starter nothing at all. Anyone know what might be happening here
>
> pleaes?
>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Stand firm in your refusal to remain conscious during algebra. In real
>
> life,
>
>>I assure you, there is no such thing as algebra.
>>
>>
>
>
> I charged it up overnight and it seemed to start ok this morning, I'll check
> the battery as you guys suggest. I'm hoping it's not the alternator. I have
> had nothing but problems with this Jeep, I miss my 1988 $700 one, never had
> a days problems with it. This one is a piece of ----, excuse the language.
>
> Hp
>
>

Herb Leong

In article <JAUPf.1068$C7.682@bignews2.bellsouth.net>,
KJ.Kate <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote:
#
#"Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
#news:UaOPf.57480$dW3.44298@newssvr21.news.prodigy .com...
#: Hi there
#:
#: My wife has a 2002 Jeep Cherokee grand and just drove it 20 miles from
#: college. She drove it into the garage and shut the engine down. As she was
#: getting out she noticed that the seat didn't roll back to let her get out
#: easily. She also noticed that she couldn't open any of the other doors (
#the
#: drivers was already open.) No lights were on at all and when she turned
#the
#: key in the ignition nothing and I mean nothing at all happened. No lights,
#: no starter nothing at all. Anyone know what might be happening here
#pleaes?
#
#The guys have a good starting place with the battery and after you check it,
#head towards your alternator. Did the alternator die or did you break an
#alternator belt? It may be that it has gone bad causing your wife to drive
#home on just the juice of the battery and making it go completely dead.
#
#When you figure it out, let us know wouldya ?
#
#KJKate

A 2002 would have a serpentine belt on it. If that died or was dying, you
would *know* it as your hood and everything else around the belt will be
getting loudly b!tch-slapped by chunks of belt.

To see if it is a dead alternator, jump start your engine, then remove the
negative connection from the battery. If the engine dies, then it's the
alternator. That happened to me on the road and the tow driver was nice
enough to let me do that experiment even though it meant jumping me twice.

/herb

Herb Leong

In article <JAUPf.1068$C7.682@bignews2.bellsouth.net>,
KJ.Kate <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote:
#
#"Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
#news:UaOPf.57480$dW3.44298@newssvr21.news.prodigy .com...
#: Hi there
#:
#: My wife has a 2002 Jeep Cherokee grand and just drove it 20 miles from
#: college. She drove it into the garage and shut the engine down. As she was
#: getting out she noticed that the seat didn't roll back to let her get out
#: easily. She also noticed that she couldn't open any of the other doors (
#the
#: drivers was already open.) No lights were on at all and when she turned
#the
#: key in the ignition nothing and I mean nothing at all happened. No lights,
#: no starter nothing at all. Anyone know what might be happening here
#pleaes?
#
#The guys have a good starting place with the battery and after you check it,
#head towards your alternator. Did the alternator die or did you break an
#alternator belt? It may be that it has gone bad causing your wife to drive
#home on just the juice of the battery and making it go completely dead.
#
#When you figure it out, let us know wouldya ?
#
#KJKate

A 2002 would have a serpentine belt on it. If that died or was dying, you
would *know* it as your hood and everything else around the belt will be
getting loudly b!tch-slapped by chunks of belt.

To see if it is a dead alternator, jump start your engine, then remove the
negative connection from the battery. If the engine dies, then it's the
alternator. That happened to me on the road and the tow driver was nice
enough to let me do that experiment even though it meant jumping me twice.

/herb

Herb Leong

In article <JAUPf.1068$C7.682@bignews2.bellsouth.net>,
KJ.Kate <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote:
#
#"Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
#news:UaOPf.57480$dW3.44298@newssvr21.news.prodigy .com...
#: Hi there
#:
#: My wife has a 2002 Jeep Cherokee grand and just drove it 20 miles from
#: college. She drove it into the garage and shut the engine down. As she was
#: getting out she noticed that the seat didn't roll back to let her get out
#: easily. She also noticed that she couldn't open any of the other doors (
#the
#: drivers was already open.) No lights were on at all and when she turned
#the
#: key in the ignition nothing and I mean nothing at all happened. No lights,
#: no starter nothing at all. Anyone know what might be happening here
#pleaes?
#
#The guys have a good starting place with the battery and after you check it,
#head towards your alternator. Did the alternator die or did you break an
#alternator belt? It may be that it has gone bad causing your wife to drive
#home on just the juice of the battery and making it go completely dead.
#
#When you figure it out, let us know wouldya ?
#
#KJKate

A 2002 would have a serpentine belt on it. If that died or was dying, you
would *know* it as your hood and everything else around the belt will be
getting loudly b!tch-slapped by chunks of belt.

To see if it is a dead alternator, jump start your engine, then remove the
negative connection from the battery. If the engine dies, then it's the
alternator. That happened to me on the road and the tow driver was nice
enough to let me do that experiment even though it meant jumping me twice.

/herb

Herb Leong

In article <JAUPf.1068$C7.682@bignews2.bellsouth.net>,
KJ.Kate <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote:
#
#"Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
#news:UaOPf.57480$dW3.44298@newssvr21.news.prodigy .com...
#: Hi there
#:
#: My wife has a 2002 Jeep Cherokee grand and just drove it 20 miles from
#: college. She drove it into the garage and shut the engine down. As she was
#: getting out she noticed that the seat didn't roll back to let her get out
#: easily. She also noticed that she couldn't open any of the other doors (
#the
#: drivers was already open.) No lights were on at all and when she turned
#the
#: key in the ignition nothing and I mean nothing at all happened. No lights,
#: no starter nothing at all. Anyone know what might be happening here
#pleaes?
#
#The guys have a good starting place with the battery and after you check it,
#head towards your alternator. Did the alternator die or did you break an
#alternator belt? It may be that it has gone bad causing your wife to drive
#home on just the juice of the battery and making it go completely dead.
#
#When you figure it out, let us know wouldya ?
#
#KJKate

A 2002 would have a serpentine belt on it. If that died or was dying, you
would *know* it as your hood and everything else around the belt will be
getting loudly b!tch-slapped by chunks of belt.

To see if it is a dead alternator, jump start your engine, then remove the
negative connection from the battery. If the engine dies, then it's the
alternator. That happened to me on the road and the tow driver was nice
enough to let me do that experiment even though it meant jumping me twice.

/herb

RoyJ

DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY CABLES WHILE IT IS RUNNING!!!! This was OK
advice on older cars, on new cars with all the electronics you take the
chance of frying multiple computer boxes! The battery moderates all the
nasty voltage spikes coming from the alternator.

Herb Leong wrote:

> In article <JAUPf.1068$C7.682@bignews2.bellsouth.net>,
> KJ.Kate <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote:
> #
> #"Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
> #news:UaOPf.57480$dW3.44298@newssvr21.news.prodigy .com...
> #: Hi there
> #:
> #: My wife has a 2002 Jeep Cherokee grand and just drove it 20 miles from
> #: college. She drove it into the garage and shut the engine down. As she was
> #: getting out she noticed that the seat didn't roll back to let her get out
> #: easily. She also noticed that she couldn't open any of the other doors (
> #the
> #: drivers was already open.) No lights were on at all and when she turned
> #the
> #: key in the ignition nothing and I mean nothing at all happened. No lights,
> #: no starter nothing at all. Anyone know what might be happening here
> #pleaes?
> #
> #The guys have a good starting place with the battery and after you check it,
> #head towards your alternator. Did the alternator die or did you break an
> #alternator belt? It may be that it has gone bad causing your wife to drive
> #home on just the juice of the battery and making it go completely dead.
> #
> #When you figure it out, let us know wouldya ?
> #
> #KJKate
>
> A 2002 would have a serpentine belt on it. If that died or was dying, you
> would *know* it as your hood and everything else around the belt will be
> getting loudly b!tch-slapped by chunks of belt.
>
> To see if it is a dead alternator, jump start your engine, then remove the
> negative connection from the battery. If the engine dies, then it's the
> alternator. That happened to me on the road and the tow driver was nice
> enough to let me do that experiment even though it meant jumping me twice.
>
> /herb