Jeep just died ( electrically) after 20 mile journey
03-09-2006, 04:59 PM
#51
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Re: Jeep just died ( electrically) after 20 mile journey
Harry,
The ground connection is actually a popular issue, and is a first and easy
thing to check. It's not an 'only' thing, it is a critical thing. Like
Kate noted, I bet that this affected your other electrical issues as well,
as the Jeep was hunting out other ground pathways, changing things. I would
just go ahead and use all of the stuff. I see no need to not use them, now
that you likely have the root problem fixed. I know you are frustrated and
being skittish, but go ahead and use the stuff, It might just all work now.
You don't know unless you find out.
Tomes
"Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
> news:UaOPf.57480$dW3.44298@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>> Hi there
>>
>> My wife has a 2002 Jeep Cherokee grand and just drove it 20 miles from
>> college. She drove it into the garage and shut the engine down. As she
>> was
>> getting out she noticed that the seat didn't roll back to let her get out
>> easily. She also noticed that she couldn't open any of the other doors (
> the
>> drivers was already open.) No lights were on at all and when she turned
> the
>> key in the ignition nothing and I mean nothing at all happened. No
>> lights,
>> no starter nothing at all. Anyone know what might be happening here
> pleaes?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Stand firm in your refusal to remain conscious during algebra. In real
> life,
>> I assure you, there is no such thing as algebra.
>>
>>
>
> First up thank you all for such speedy and numerous answers. I decided to
> drive the piece of ---- down to my favorite four wheel drive expert Thom's
> Four wheel drive in Chicago see below for details.
>
> he took it in immediately, despite many trucks ahead of me, and dispatched
> me down to the White dove diner for brekkers. I got back in about an hour
> and he was still running tests. They sat me down in front of the tv with
> coffee and newspapers where I caught up on Mail Call, that B52 is an
> amazing
> craft isn't it? Anyway he came back and said that the ONLY thing he could
> find was a rusted ground connection. He checked the battery, the driving
> output of the alternator etc and nothing was wrong. He mentioned that it
> might have been the fact that my wife had the headlights on, the rear
> windshield heater, the interior heater set at 70f so drawing much more
> power
> than normal. We used to have the drivers seat set to glide back on exit
> but
> this takes power straight from the battery, we will never use the heated
> seats again because they A) don't really work B) can cause shorts. The
> drivers side heated mirror seems to be on the blink so we won't use that
> again, instead we'll just open the window and clean it by hand.
>
>
> I still think the thing is a pile of ---- and probably will dump it in the
> next few weeks on Carmax, where I bought the @##king thing in the first
> place. So far , in ONE year, I have had to replace the window motor
> assembly, the heater control module, replace two tires due to blow out. I
> have driven it 5000 miles around town. Contrast this with my old Jeep
> Cherokee 1988 I bought for $700 nothing for four years, not a damn
> thing!!!
> I really am considering buying a Jap car next because all my friends own
> one
> and have had NO trouble with them at all. Anyway thanks again for the
> great
> advice and warnings, I hope this helps someone else.
>
>
>
The ground connection is actually a popular issue, and is a first and easy
thing to check. It's not an 'only' thing, it is a critical thing. Like
Kate noted, I bet that this affected your other electrical issues as well,
as the Jeep was hunting out other ground pathways, changing things. I would
just go ahead and use all of the stuff. I see no need to not use them, now
that you likely have the root problem fixed. I know you are frustrated and
being skittish, but go ahead and use the stuff, It might just all work now.
You don't know unless you find out.
Tomes
"Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
> news:UaOPf.57480$dW3.44298@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>> Hi there
>>
>> My wife has a 2002 Jeep Cherokee grand and just drove it 20 miles from
>> college. She drove it into the garage and shut the engine down. As she
>> was
>> getting out she noticed that the seat didn't roll back to let her get out
>> easily. She also noticed that she couldn't open any of the other doors (
> the
>> drivers was already open.) No lights were on at all and when she turned
> the
>> key in the ignition nothing and I mean nothing at all happened. No
>> lights,
>> no starter nothing at all. Anyone know what might be happening here
> pleaes?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Stand firm in your refusal to remain conscious during algebra. In real
> life,
>> I assure you, there is no such thing as algebra.
>>
>>
>
> First up thank you all for such speedy and numerous answers. I decided to
> drive the piece of ---- down to my favorite four wheel drive expert Thom's
> Four wheel drive in Chicago see below for details.
>
> he took it in immediately, despite many trucks ahead of me, and dispatched
> me down to the White dove diner for brekkers. I got back in about an hour
> and he was still running tests. They sat me down in front of the tv with
> coffee and newspapers where I caught up on Mail Call, that B52 is an
> amazing
> craft isn't it? Anyway he came back and said that the ONLY thing he could
> find was a rusted ground connection. He checked the battery, the driving
> output of the alternator etc and nothing was wrong. He mentioned that it
> might have been the fact that my wife had the headlights on, the rear
> windshield heater, the interior heater set at 70f so drawing much more
> power
> than normal. We used to have the drivers seat set to glide back on exit
> but
> this takes power straight from the battery, we will never use the heated
> seats again because they A) don't really work B) can cause shorts. The
> drivers side heated mirror seems to be on the blink so we won't use that
> again, instead we'll just open the window and clean it by hand.
>
>
> I still think the thing is a pile of ---- and probably will dump it in the
> next few weeks on Carmax, where I bought the @##king thing in the first
> place. So far , in ONE year, I have had to replace the window motor
> assembly, the heater control module, replace two tires due to blow out. I
> have driven it 5000 miles around town. Contrast this with my old Jeep
> Cherokee 1988 I bought for $700 nothing for four years, not a damn
> thing!!!
> I really am considering buying a Jap car next because all my friends own
> one
> and have had NO trouble with them at all. Anyway thanks again for the
> great
> advice and warnings, I hope this helps someone else.
>
>
>
03-09-2006, 04:59 PM
#52
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Re: Jeep just died ( electrically) after 20 mile journey
Harry,
The ground connection is actually a popular issue, and is a first and easy
thing to check. It's not an 'only' thing, it is a critical thing. Like
Kate noted, I bet that this affected your other electrical issues as well,
as the Jeep was hunting out other ground pathways, changing things. I would
just go ahead and use all of the stuff. I see no need to not use them, now
that you likely have the root problem fixed. I know you are frustrated and
being skittish, but go ahead and use the stuff, It might just all work now.
You don't know unless you find out.
Tomes
"Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
news:h1%Pf.74688$PL5.12382@newssvr11.news.prodigy. com...
>
> "Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
> news:UaOPf.57480$dW3.44298@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>> Hi there
>>
>> My wife has a 2002 Jeep Cherokee grand and just drove it 20 miles from
>> college. She drove it into the garage and shut the engine down. As she
>> was
>> getting out she noticed that the seat didn't roll back to let her get out
>> easily. She also noticed that she couldn't open any of the other doors (
> the
>> drivers was already open.) No lights were on at all and when she turned
> the
>> key in the ignition nothing and I mean nothing at all happened. No
>> lights,
>> no starter nothing at all. Anyone know what might be happening here
> pleaes?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Stand firm in your refusal to remain conscious during algebra. In real
> life,
>> I assure you, there is no such thing as algebra.
>>
>>
>
> First up thank you all for such speedy and numerous answers. I decided to
> drive the piece of ---- down to my favorite four wheel drive expert Thom's
> Four wheel drive in Chicago see below for details.
>
> he took it in immediately, despite many trucks ahead of me, and dispatched
> me down to the White dove diner for brekkers. I got back in about an hour
> and he was still running tests. They sat me down in front of the tv with
> coffee and newspapers where I caught up on Mail Call, that B52 is an
> amazing
> craft isn't it? Anyway he came back and said that the ONLY thing he could
> find was a rusted ground connection. He checked the battery, the driving
> output of the alternator etc and nothing was wrong. He mentioned that it
> might have been the fact that my wife had the headlights on, the rear
> windshield heater, the interior heater set at 70f so drawing much more
> power
> than normal. We used to have the drivers seat set to glide back on exit
> but
> this takes power straight from the battery, we will never use the heated
> seats again because they A) don't really work B) can cause shorts. The
> drivers side heated mirror seems to be on the blink so we won't use that
> again, instead we'll just open the window and clean it by hand.
>
>
> I still think the thing is a pile of ---- and probably will dump it in the
> next few weeks on Carmax, where I bought the @##king thing in the first
> place. So far , in ONE year, I have had to replace the window motor
> assembly, the heater control module, replace two tires due to blow out. I
> have driven it 5000 miles around town. Contrast this with my old Jeep
> Cherokee 1988 I bought for $700 nothing for four years, not a damn
> thing!!!
> I really am considering buying a Jap car next because all my friends own
> one
> and have had NO trouble with them at all. Anyway thanks again for the
> great
> advice and warnings, I hope this helps someone else.
>
>
>
The ground connection is actually a popular issue, and is a first and easy
thing to check. It's not an 'only' thing, it is a critical thing. Like
Kate noted, I bet that this affected your other electrical issues as well,
as the Jeep was hunting out other ground pathways, changing things. I would
just go ahead and use all of the stuff. I see no need to not use them, now
that you likely have the root problem fixed. I know you are frustrated and
being skittish, but go ahead and use the stuff, It might just all work now.
You don't know unless you find out.
Tomes
"Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
news:h1%Pf.74688$PL5.12382@newssvr11.news.prodigy. com...
>
> "Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
> news:UaOPf.57480$dW3.44298@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>> Hi there
>>
>> My wife has a 2002 Jeep Cherokee grand and just drove it 20 miles from
>> college. She drove it into the garage and shut the engine down. As she
>> was
>> getting out she noticed that the seat didn't roll back to let her get out
>> easily. She also noticed that she couldn't open any of the other doors (
> the
>> drivers was already open.) No lights were on at all and when she turned
> the
>> key in the ignition nothing and I mean nothing at all happened. No
>> lights,
>> no starter nothing at all. Anyone know what might be happening here
> pleaes?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Stand firm in your refusal to remain conscious during algebra. In real
> life,
>> I assure you, there is no such thing as algebra.
>>
>>
>
> First up thank you all for such speedy and numerous answers. I decided to
> drive the piece of ---- down to my favorite four wheel drive expert Thom's
> Four wheel drive in Chicago see below for details.
>
> he took it in immediately, despite many trucks ahead of me, and dispatched
> me down to the White dove diner for brekkers. I got back in about an hour
> and he was still running tests. They sat me down in front of the tv with
> coffee and newspapers where I caught up on Mail Call, that B52 is an
> amazing
> craft isn't it? Anyway he came back and said that the ONLY thing he could
> find was a rusted ground connection. He checked the battery, the driving
> output of the alternator etc and nothing was wrong. He mentioned that it
> might have been the fact that my wife had the headlights on, the rear
> windshield heater, the interior heater set at 70f so drawing much more
> power
> than normal. We used to have the drivers seat set to glide back on exit
> but
> this takes power straight from the battery, we will never use the heated
> seats again because they A) don't really work B) can cause shorts. The
> drivers side heated mirror seems to be on the blink so we won't use that
> again, instead we'll just open the window and clean it by hand.
>
>
> I still think the thing is a pile of ---- and probably will dump it in the
> next few weeks on Carmax, where I bought the @##king thing in the first
> place. So far , in ONE year, I have had to replace the window motor
> assembly, the heater control module, replace two tires due to blow out. I
> have driven it 5000 miles around town. Contrast this with my old Jeep
> Cherokee 1988 I bought for $700 nothing for four years, not a damn
> thing!!!
> I really am considering buying a Jap car next because all my friends own
> one
> and have had NO trouble with them at all. Anyway thanks again for the
> great
> advice and warnings, I hope this helps someone else.
>
>
>
03-09-2006, 04:59 PM
#53
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Re: Jeep just died ( electrically) after 20 mile journey
Harry,
The ground connection is actually a popular issue, and is a first and easy
thing to check. It's not an 'only' thing, it is a critical thing. Like
Kate noted, I bet that this affected your other electrical issues as well,
as the Jeep was hunting out other ground pathways, changing things. I would
just go ahead and use all of the stuff. I see no need to not use them, now
that you likely have the root problem fixed. I know you are frustrated and
being skittish, but go ahead and use the stuff, It might just all work now.
You don't know unless you find out.
Tomes
"Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
news:h1%Pf.74688$PL5.12382@newssvr11.news.prodigy. com...
>
> "Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
> news:UaOPf.57480$dW3.44298@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>> Hi there
>>
>> My wife has a 2002 Jeep Cherokee grand and just drove it 20 miles from
>> college. She drove it into the garage and shut the engine down. As she
>> was
>> getting out she noticed that the seat didn't roll back to let her get out
>> easily. She also noticed that she couldn't open any of the other doors (
> the
>> drivers was already open.) No lights were on at all and when she turned
> the
>> key in the ignition nothing and I mean nothing at all happened. No
>> lights,
>> no starter nothing at all. Anyone know what might be happening here
> pleaes?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Stand firm in your refusal to remain conscious during algebra. In real
> life,
>> I assure you, there is no such thing as algebra.
>>
>>
>
> First up thank you all for such speedy and numerous answers. I decided to
> drive the piece of ---- down to my favorite four wheel drive expert Thom's
> Four wheel drive in Chicago see below for details.
>
> he took it in immediately, despite many trucks ahead of me, and dispatched
> me down to the White dove diner for brekkers. I got back in about an hour
> and he was still running tests. They sat me down in front of the tv with
> coffee and newspapers where I caught up on Mail Call, that B52 is an
> amazing
> craft isn't it? Anyway he came back and said that the ONLY thing he could
> find was a rusted ground connection. He checked the battery, the driving
> output of the alternator etc and nothing was wrong. He mentioned that it
> might have been the fact that my wife had the headlights on, the rear
> windshield heater, the interior heater set at 70f so drawing much more
> power
> than normal. We used to have the drivers seat set to glide back on exit
> but
> this takes power straight from the battery, we will never use the heated
> seats again because they A) don't really work B) can cause shorts. The
> drivers side heated mirror seems to be on the blink so we won't use that
> again, instead we'll just open the window and clean it by hand.
>
>
> I still think the thing is a pile of ---- and probably will dump it in the
> next few weeks on Carmax, where I bought the @##king thing in the first
> place. So far , in ONE year, I have had to replace the window motor
> assembly, the heater control module, replace two tires due to blow out. I
> have driven it 5000 miles around town. Contrast this with my old Jeep
> Cherokee 1988 I bought for $700 nothing for four years, not a damn
> thing!!!
> I really am considering buying a Jap car next because all my friends own
> one
> and have had NO trouble with them at all. Anyway thanks again for the
> great
> advice and warnings, I hope this helps someone else.
>
>
>
The ground connection is actually a popular issue, and is a first and easy
thing to check. It's not an 'only' thing, it is a critical thing. Like
Kate noted, I bet that this affected your other electrical issues as well,
as the Jeep was hunting out other ground pathways, changing things. I would
just go ahead and use all of the stuff. I see no need to not use them, now
that you likely have the root problem fixed. I know you are frustrated and
being skittish, but go ahead and use the stuff, It might just all work now.
You don't know unless you find out.
Tomes
"Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
news:h1%Pf.74688$PL5.12382@newssvr11.news.prodigy. com...
>
> "Harry Palmer" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
> news:UaOPf.57480$dW3.44298@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>> Hi there
>>
>> My wife has a 2002 Jeep Cherokee grand and just drove it 20 miles from
>> college. She drove it into the garage and shut the engine down. As she
>> was
>> getting out she noticed that the seat didn't roll back to let her get out
>> easily. She also noticed that she couldn't open any of the other doors (
> the
>> drivers was already open.) No lights were on at all and when she turned
> the
>> key in the ignition nothing and I mean nothing at all happened. No
>> lights,
>> no starter nothing at all. Anyone know what might be happening here
> pleaes?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Stand firm in your refusal to remain conscious during algebra. In real
> life,
>> I assure you, there is no such thing as algebra.
>>
>>
>
> First up thank you all for such speedy and numerous answers. I decided to
> drive the piece of ---- down to my favorite four wheel drive expert Thom's
> Four wheel drive in Chicago see below for details.
>
> he took it in immediately, despite many trucks ahead of me, and dispatched
> me down to the White dove diner for brekkers. I got back in about an hour
> and he was still running tests. They sat me down in front of the tv with
> coffee and newspapers where I caught up on Mail Call, that B52 is an
> amazing
> craft isn't it? Anyway he came back and said that the ONLY thing he could
> find was a rusted ground connection. He checked the battery, the driving
> output of the alternator etc and nothing was wrong. He mentioned that it
> might have been the fact that my wife had the headlights on, the rear
> windshield heater, the interior heater set at 70f so drawing much more
> power
> than normal. We used to have the drivers seat set to glide back on exit
> but
> this takes power straight from the battery, we will never use the heated
> seats again because they A) don't really work B) can cause shorts. The
> drivers side heated mirror seems to be on the blink so we won't use that
> again, instead we'll just open the window and clean it by hand.
>
>
> I still think the thing is a pile of ---- and probably will dump it in the
> next few weeks on Carmax, where I bought the @##king thing in the first
> place. So far , in ONE year, I have had to replace the window motor
> assembly, the heater control module, replace two tires due to blow out. I
> have driven it 5000 miles around town. Contrast this with my old Jeep
> Cherokee 1988 I bought for $700 nothing for four years, not a damn
> thing!!!
> I really am considering buying a Jap car next because all my friends own
> one
> and have had NO trouble with them at all. Anyway thanks again for the
> great
> advice and warnings, I hope this helps someone else.
>
>
>
03-09-2006, 05:00 PM
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Re: Jeep just died ( electrically) after 20 mile journey
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
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> Has it occured to you, that the improper grounding, MAY have caused some
of
> the other electrical problems?
>
> Just a thought.
>
> KJK
>
>
I really don't care about that, I was ASSURED by Carmax that they perform a
number of rigorous checks and I would have assumed that this check, if it
were able to cause this amount of harm, would have been one of them. I
really don't like this thing and can't wait to dump it. I hate to say this
but I really might be looking at a new Jap Suv. I never thought I'd say
that.
thanks to all for your help
Harry
03-09-2006, 05:00 PM
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Re: Jeep just died ( electrically) after 20 mile journey
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
news:dw0Qf.11$k82.3@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> Has it occured to you, that the improper grounding, MAY have caused some
of
> the other electrical problems?
>
> Just a thought.
>
> KJK
>
>
I really don't care about that, I was ASSURED by Carmax that they perform a
number of rigorous checks and I would have assumed that this check, if it
were able to cause this amount of harm, would have been one of them. I
really don't like this thing and can't wait to dump it. I hate to say this
but I really might be looking at a new Jap Suv. I never thought I'd say
that.
thanks to all for your help
Harry
03-09-2006, 05:00 PM
#56
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Re: Jeep just died ( electrically) after 20 mile journey
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
news:dw0Qf.11$k82.3@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> Has it occured to you, that the improper grounding, MAY have caused some
of
> the other electrical problems?
>
> Just a thought.
>
> KJK
>
>
I really don't care about that, I was ASSURED by Carmax that they perform a
number of rigorous checks and I would have assumed that this check, if it
were able to cause this amount of harm, would have been one of them. I
really don't like this thing and can't wait to dump it. I hate to say this
but I really might be looking at a new Jap Suv. I never thought I'd say
that.
thanks to all for your help
Harry
03-09-2006, 05:00 PM
#57
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Re: Jeep just died ( electrically) after 20 mile journey
"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
news:dw0Qf.11$k82.3@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> Has it occured to you, that the improper grounding, MAY have caused some
of
> the other electrical problems?
>
> Just a thought.
>
> KJK
>
>
I really don't care about that, I was ASSURED by Carmax that they perform a
number of rigorous checks and I would have assumed that this check, if it
were able to cause this amount of harm, would have been one of them. I
really don't like this thing and can't wait to dump it. I hate to say this
but I really might be looking at a new Jap Suv. I never thought I'd say
that.
thanks to all for your help
Harry
03-09-2006, 06:12 PM
#58
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Re: Jeep just died ( electrically) after 20 mile journey
Sage advice and I will take it. This weekend I will take the POS out for a
long drive around Lake Michigan and leave pretty much everything on, I will
also periodically hit the rear heater etc. ONE @#ck up and the POS is in the
lake and I'll go get something that works. Thanks for the advice to you and
Kate.
Harry "very pissed" Palmer
03-09-2006, 06:12 PM
#59
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Re: Jeep just died ( electrically) after 20 mile journey
Sage advice and I will take it. This weekend I will take the POS out for a
long drive around Lake Michigan and leave pretty much everything on, I will
also periodically hit the rear heater etc. ONE @#ck up and the POS is in the
lake and I'll go get something that works. Thanks for the advice to you and
Kate.
Harry "very pissed" Palmer
03-09-2006, 06:12 PM
#60
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Re: Jeep just died ( electrically) after 20 mile journey
Sage advice and I will take it. This weekend I will take the POS out for a
long drive around Lake Michigan and leave pretty much everything on, I will
also periodically hit the rear heater etc. ONE @#ck up and the POS is in the
lake and I'll go get something that works. Thanks for the advice to you and
Kate.
Harry "very pissed" Palmer