Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
05-07-2006, 08:02 PM
#51
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Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
By what magic do you think your engine gets rid of acid?
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Coasty wrote:
>
> Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods. The
> old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
>
> Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
> every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
> Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change. I
> have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
>
> Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
> not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
> tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
> but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
>
> Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks they
> have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
> and their engines last well over 200k.
>
> New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
> time, the environment and resources.
>
> Coasty
http://autorepair.about.com/library/.../bldef-501.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Coasty wrote:
>
> Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods. The
> old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
>
> Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
> every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
> Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change. I
> have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
>
> Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
> not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
> tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
> but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
>
> Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks they
> have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
> and their engines last well over 200k.
>
> New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
> time, the environment and resources.
>
> Coasty
05-07-2006, 08:02 PM
#52
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Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
By what magic do you think your engine gets rid of acid?
http://autorepair.about.com/library/.../bldef-501.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Coasty wrote:
>
> Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods. The
> old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
>
> Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
> every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
> Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change. I
> have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
>
> Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
> not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
> tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
> but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
>
> Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks they
> have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
> and their engines last well over 200k.
>
> New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
> time, the environment and resources.
>
> Coasty
http://autorepair.about.com/library/.../bldef-501.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Coasty wrote:
>
> Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods. The
> old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
>
> Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
> every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
> Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change. I
> have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
>
> Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
> not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
> tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
> but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
>
> Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks they
> have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
> and their engines last well over 200k.
>
> New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
> time, the environment and resources.
>
> Coasty
05-08-2006, 12:22 AM
#53
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Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
"Moisture is the worst culprit because it forms acids and sludge." I have
been saying this for years, since 1978 in fact, when Bud at Clarke Motors in
Winchester, VA told me that "short trips" was the cause of the sludge
buildup I was seeing in a Chevy V8 used in a farm truck. That truck had
enough sludge built up, to pop one of the rockers off of its push rod.
Modern engines, running at the proper operating temperature and with a
properly functioning PCV or CCV system, boil off crankcase moisture and
therefore reduce acid and sludge, relative to older designs. Those short
trips are a "gotcha" though, because it never gets hot enough to boil the
water off.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445E8A98.3014B416@***.net...
> By what magic do you think your engine gets rid of acid?
> http://autorepair.about.com/library/.../bldef-501.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Coasty wrote:
> >
> > Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods.
The
> > old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old
school.
> >
> > Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil
changed
> > every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my
wife's
> > Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k
change. I
> > have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
> >
> > Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it
is
> > not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> > change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old
and
> > tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our
resources
> > but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
> >
> > Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks
they
> > have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is
10-15k
> > and their engines last well over 200k.
> >
> > New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save
money,
> > time, the environment and resources.
> >
> > Coasty
been saying this for years, since 1978 in fact, when Bud at Clarke Motors in
Winchester, VA told me that "short trips" was the cause of the sludge
buildup I was seeing in a Chevy V8 used in a farm truck. That truck had
enough sludge built up, to pop one of the rockers off of its push rod.
Modern engines, running at the proper operating temperature and with a
properly functioning PCV or CCV system, boil off crankcase moisture and
therefore reduce acid and sludge, relative to older designs. Those short
trips are a "gotcha" though, because it never gets hot enough to boil the
water off.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445E8A98.3014B416@***.net...
> By what magic do you think your engine gets rid of acid?
> http://autorepair.about.com/library/.../bldef-501.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Coasty wrote:
> >
> > Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods.
The
> > old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old
school.
> >
> > Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil
changed
> > every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my
wife's
> > Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k
change. I
> > have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
> >
> > Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it
is
> > not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> > change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old
and
> > tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our
resources
> > but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
> >
> > Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks
they
> > have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is
10-15k
> > and their engines last well over 200k.
> >
> > New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save
money,
> > time, the environment and resources.
> >
> > Coasty
05-08-2006, 12:22 AM
#54
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Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
"Moisture is the worst culprit because it forms acids and sludge." I have
been saying this for years, since 1978 in fact, when Bud at Clarke Motors in
Winchester, VA told me that "short trips" was the cause of the sludge
buildup I was seeing in a Chevy V8 used in a farm truck. That truck had
enough sludge built up, to pop one of the rockers off of its push rod.
Modern engines, running at the proper operating temperature and with a
properly functioning PCV or CCV system, boil off crankcase moisture and
therefore reduce acid and sludge, relative to older designs. Those short
trips are a "gotcha" though, because it never gets hot enough to boil the
water off.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445E8A98.3014B416@***.net...
> By what magic do you think your engine gets rid of acid?
> http://autorepair.about.com/library/.../bldef-501.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Coasty wrote:
> >
> > Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods.
The
> > old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old
school.
> >
> > Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil
changed
> > every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my
wife's
> > Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k
change. I
> > have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
> >
> > Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it
is
> > not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> > change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old
and
> > tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our
resources
> > but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
> >
> > Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks
they
> > have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is
10-15k
> > and their engines last well over 200k.
> >
> > New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save
money,
> > time, the environment and resources.
> >
> > Coasty
been saying this for years, since 1978 in fact, when Bud at Clarke Motors in
Winchester, VA told me that "short trips" was the cause of the sludge
buildup I was seeing in a Chevy V8 used in a farm truck. That truck had
enough sludge built up, to pop one of the rockers off of its push rod.
Modern engines, running at the proper operating temperature and with a
properly functioning PCV or CCV system, boil off crankcase moisture and
therefore reduce acid and sludge, relative to older designs. Those short
trips are a "gotcha" though, because it never gets hot enough to boil the
water off.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445E8A98.3014B416@***.net...
> By what magic do you think your engine gets rid of acid?
> http://autorepair.about.com/library/.../bldef-501.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Coasty wrote:
> >
> > Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods.
The
> > old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old
school.
> >
> > Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil
changed
> > every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my
wife's
> > Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k
change. I
> > have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
> >
> > Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it
is
> > not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> > change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old
and
> > tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our
resources
> > but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
> >
> > Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks
they
> > have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is
10-15k
> > and their engines last well over 200k.
> >
> > New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save
money,
> > time, the environment and resources.
> >
> > Coasty
05-08-2006, 12:22 AM
#55
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Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
"Moisture is the worst culprit because it forms acids and sludge." I have
been saying this for years, since 1978 in fact, when Bud at Clarke Motors in
Winchester, VA told me that "short trips" was the cause of the sludge
buildup I was seeing in a Chevy V8 used in a farm truck. That truck had
enough sludge built up, to pop one of the rockers off of its push rod.
Modern engines, running at the proper operating temperature and with a
properly functioning PCV or CCV system, boil off crankcase moisture and
therefore reduce acid and sludge, relative to older designs. Those short
trips are a "gotcha" though, because it never gets hot enough to boil the
water off.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445E8A98.3014B416@***.net...
> By what magic do you think your engine gets rid of acid?
> http://autorepair.about.com/library/.../bldef-501.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Coasty wrote:
> >
> > Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods.
The
> > old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old
school.
> >
> > Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil
changed
> > every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my
wife's
> > Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k
change. I
> > have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
> >
> > Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it
is
> > not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> > change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old
and
> > tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our
resources
> > but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
> >
> > Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks
they
> > have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is
10-15k
> > and their engines last well over 200k.
> >
> > New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save
money,
> > time, the environment and resources.
> >
> > Coasty
been saying this for years, since 1978 in fact, when Bud at Clarke Motors in
Winchester, VA told me that "short trips" was the cause of the sludge
buildup I was seeing in a Chevy V8 used in a farm truck. That truck had
enough sludge built up, to pop one of the rockers off of its push rod.
Modern engines, running at the proper operating temperature and with a
properly functioning PCV or CCV system, boil off crankcase moisture and
therefore reduce acid and sludge, relative to older designs. Those short
trips are a "gotcha" though, because it never gets hot enough to boil the
water off.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445E8A98.3014B416@***.net...
> By what magic do you think your engine gets rid of acid?
> http://autorepair.about.com/library/.../bldef-501.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Coasty wrote:
> >
> > Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods.
The
> > old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old
school.
> >
> > Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil
changed
> > every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my
wife's
> > Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k
change. I
> > have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
> >
> > Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it
is
> > not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> > change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old
and
> > tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our
resources
> > but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
> >
> > Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks
they
> > have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is
10-15k
> > and their engines last well over 200k.
> >
> > New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save
money,
> > time, the environment and resources.
> >
> > Coasty
05-13-2006, 01:04 PM
#56
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Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
does it ping under slight load??
then i would have it tested for a intake plenuim pan gasket leak
they can be blown out and u suc oil in from the lifter valley resulting in a oil
consumption issue and sometimes a rough idle and pinging no matter what gas is
used i used to do 2 to 3 a week for this issue and the first thing brought up
was a quart low wth no leaks
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule says,
> > "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule 'B'",
> > many are not.
> >
> > Earle
then i would have it tested for a intake plenuim pan gasket leak
they can be blown out and u suc oil in from the lifter valley resulting in a oil
consumption issue and sometimes a rough idle and pinging no matter what gas is
used i used to do 2 to 3 a week for this issue and the first thing brought up
was a quart low wth no leaks
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule says,
> > "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule 'B'",
> > many are not.
> >
> > Earle
05-13-2006, 01:04 PM
#57
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Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
does it ping under slight load??
then i would have it tested for a intake plenuim pan gasket leak
they can be blown out and u suc oil in from the lifter valley resulting in a oil
consumption issue and sometimes a rough idle and pinging no matter what gas is
used i used to do 2 to 3 a week for this issue and the first thing brought up
was a quart low wth no leaks
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule says,
> > "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule 'B'",
> > many are not.
> >
> > Earle
then i would have it tested for a intake plenuim pan gasket leak
they can be blown out and u suc oil in from the lifter valley resulting in a oil
consumption issue and sometimes a rough idle and pinging no matter what gas is
used i used to do 2 to 3 a week for this issue and the first thing brought up
was a quart low wth no leaks
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule says,
> > "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule 'B'",
> > many are not.
> >
> > Earle
05-13-2006, 01:04 PM
#58
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Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
does it ping under slight load??
then i would have it tested for a intake plenuim pan gasket leak
they can be blown out and u suc oil in from the lifter valley resulting in a oil
consumption issue and sometimes a rough idle and pinging no matter what gas is
used i used to do 2 to 3 a week for this issue and the first thing brought up
was a quart low wth no leaks
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule says,
> > "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule 'B'",
> > many are not.
> >
> > Earle
then i would have it tested for a intake plenuim pan gasket leak
they can be blown out and u suc oil in from the lifter valley resulting in a oil
consumption issue and sometimes a rough idle and pinging no matter what gas is
used i used to do 2 to 3 a week for this issue and the first thing brought up
was a quart low wth no leaks
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule says,
> > "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule 'B'",
> > many are not.
> >
> > Earle
05-13-2006, 02:41 PM
#59
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Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
That's good information. I too have a '93 JGC V-8 that burns oil
without leaks and pings easily. I couldn't find a picture of the
plenum pan in the service manual, but it seems to be part of the
intake manifold which has to be removed to get to the plenum pan.
----
On Sat, 13 May 2006 13:04:29 -0400, philthy <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:
>does it ping under slight load??
> then i would have it tested for a intake plenuim pan gasket leak
>they can be blown out and u suc oil in from the lifter valley resulting in a oil
>consumption issue and sometimes a rough idle and pinging no matter what gas is
>used i used to do 2 to 3 a week for this issue and the first thing brought up
>was a quart low wth no leaks
>
>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>> Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> >
>> > Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule says,
>> > "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule 'B'",
>> > many are not.
>> >
>> > Earle
without leaks and pings easily. I couldn't find a picture of the
plenum pan in the service manual, but it seems to be part of the
intake manifold which has to be removed to get to the plenum pan.
----
On Sat, 13 May 2006 13:04:29 -0400, philthy <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:
>does it ping under slight load??
> then i would have it tested for a intake plenuim pan gasket leak
>they can be blown out and u suc oil in from the lifter valley resulting in a oil
>consumption issue and sometimes a rough idle and pinging no matter what gas is
>used i used to do 2 to 3 a week for this issue and the first thing brought up
>was a quart low wth no leaks
>
>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>> Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> >
>> > Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule says,
>> > "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule 'B'",
>> > many are not.
>> >
>> > Earle
05-13-2006, 02:41 PM
#60
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Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
That's good information. I too have a '93 JGC V-8 that burns oil
without leaks and pings easily. I couldn't find a picture of the
plenum pan in the service manual, but it seems to be part of the
intake manifold which has to be removed to get to the plenum pan.
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On Sat, 13 May 2006 13:04:29 -0400, philthy <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:
>does it ping under slight load??
> then i would have it tested for a intake plenuim pan gasket leak
>they can be blown out and u suc oil in from the lifter valley resulting in a oil
>consumption issue and sometimes a rough idle and pinging no matter what gas is
>used i used to do 2 to 3 a week for this issue and the first thing brought up
>was a quart low wth no leaks
>
>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>> Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> >
>> > Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule says,
>> > "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule 'B'",
>> > many are not.
>> >
>> > Earle
without leaks and pings easily. I couldn't find a picture of the
plenum pan in the service manual, but it seems to be part of the
intake manifold which has to be removed to get to the plenum pan.
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On Sat, 13 May 2006 13:04:29 -0400, philthy <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:
>does it ping under slight load??
> then i would have it tested for a intake plenuim pan gasket leak
>they can be blown out and u suc oil in from the lifter valley resulting in a oil
>consumption issue and sometimes a rough idle and pinging no matter what gas is
>used i used to do 2 to 3 a week for this issue and the first thing brought up
>was a quart low wth no leaks
>
>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>> Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> >
>> > Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule says,
>> > "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule 'B'",
>> > many are not.
>> >
>> > Earle