Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
05-07-2006, 06:48 AM
#41
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Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
My 2004 WJ and TJ SM and says to use synethic 75W-140 front and rear with
4oz of limited slip additive with track-lock, vari-lock and 35C rear ends.
You can get the magic juice at a ford dealer it is the same as chrystlers
also Auto zone sells it along with Vavoline ATF+4 tranny fluid, which is
used in the auto trannys, transfer case and power stearing units too.
Coasty
"Herb Leong" <herb@urusei.net> wrote in message
news:v-udnYqJWoGnH8DZRVn-uQ@speakeasy.net...
> In article <dcdd6$445d692c$48311525$12979@FUSE.NET>,
> billy ray <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote:
> #Well...... my question was more about the recommended gear lube.
> #
> #In the WJs it has changed in the past couple years from the 80w-90 they
> #recommended for so long.
>
> It depends. If you have the quadra drive system, you need to
> have the special (as in "Special Education" special) lube.
> 75w-140 syn with the limited slip additive for the pumpkins
> and the only-available-from-Mopar NV249 transfercase lube.
> Don't use ATF of any kind type or sort, even though that is
> what DC shipped in my WJ.
>
> My '99 WJ manual says you can use 80w-90 if you don't have
> the quadra drive.
>
> /herb
4oz of limited slip additive with track-lock, vari-lock and 35C rear ends.
You can get the magic juice at a ford dealer it is the same as chrystlers
also Auto zone sells it along with Vavoline ATF+4 tranny fluid, which is
used in the auto trannys, transfer case and power stearing units too.
Coasty
"Herb Leong" <herb@urusei.net> wrote in message
news:v-udnYqJWoGnH8DZRVn-uQ@speakeasy.net...
> In article <dcdd6$445d692c$48311525$12979@FUSE.NET>,
> billy ray <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote:
> #Well...... my question was more about the recommended gear lube.
> #
> #In the WJs it has changed in the past couple years from the 80w-90 they
> #recommended for so long.
>
> It depends. If you have the quadra drive system, you need to
> have the special (as in "Special Education" special) lube.
> 75w-140 syn with the limited slip additive for the pumpkins
> and the only-available-from-Mopar NV249 transfercase lube.
> Don't use ATF of any kind type or sort, even though that is
> what DC shipped in my WJ.
>
> My '99 WJ manual says you can use 80w-90 if you don't have
> the quadra drive.
>
> /herb
05-07-2006, 06:48 AM
#42
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Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
My 2004 WJ and TJ SM and says to use synethic 75W-140 front and rear with
4oz of limited slip additive with track-lock, vari-lock and 35C rear ends.
You can get the magic juice at a ford dealer it is the same as chrystlers
also Auto zone sells it along with Vavoline ATF+4 tranny fluid, which is
used in the auto trannys, transfer case and power stearing units too.
Coasty
"Herb Leong" <herb@urusei.net> wrote in message
news:v-udnYqJWoGnH8DZRVn-uQ@speakeasy.net...
> In article <dcdd6$445d692c$48311525$12979@FUSE.NET>,
> billy ray <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote:
> #Well...... my question was more about the recommended gear lube.
> #
> #In the WJs it has changed in the past couple years from the 80w-90 they
> #recommended for so long.
>
> It depends. If you have the quadra drive system, you need to
> have the special (as in "Special Education" special) lube.
> 75w-140 syn with the limited slip additive for the pumpkins
> and the only-available-from-Mopar NV249 transfercase lube.
> Don't use ATF of any kind type or sort, even though that is
> what DC shipped in my WJ.
>
> My '99 WJ manual says you can use 80w-90 if you don't have
> the quadra drive.
>
> /herb
4oz of limited slip additive with track-lock, vari-lock and 35C rear ends.
You can get the magic juice at a ford dealer it is the same as chrystlers
also Auto zone sells it along with Vavoline ATF+4 tranny fluid, which is
used in the auto trannys, transfer case and power stearing units too.
Coasty
"Herb Leong" <herb@urusei.net> wrote in message
news:v-udnYqJWoGnH8DZRVn-uQ@speakeasy.net...
> In article <dcdd6$445d692c$48311525$12979@FUSE.NET>,
> billy ray <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote:
> #Well...... my question was more about the recommended gear lube.
> #
> #In the WJs it has changed in the past couple years from the 80w-90 they
> #recommended for so long.
>
> It depends. If you have the quadra drive system, you need to
> have the special (as in "Special Education" special) lube.
> 75w-140 syn with the limited slip additive for the pumpkins
> and the only-available-from-Mopar NV249 transfercase lube.
> Don't use ATF of any kind type or sort, even though that is
> what DC shipped in my WJ.
>
> My '99 WJ manual says you can use 80w-90 if you don't have
> the quadra drive.
>
> /herb
05-07-2006, 06:48 AM
#43
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Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
My 2004 WJ and TJ SM and says to use synethic 75W-140 front and rear with
4oz of limited slip additive with track-lock, vari-lock and 35C rear ends.
You can get the magic juice at a ford dealer it is the same as chrystlers
also Auto zone sells it along with Vavoline ATF+4 tranny fluid, which is
used in the auto trannys, transfer case and power stearing units too.
Coasty
"Herb Leong" <herb@urusei.net> wrote in message
news:v-udnYqJWoGnH8DZRVn-uQ@speakeasy.net...
> In article <dcdd6$445d692c$48311525$12979@FUSE.NET>,
> billy ray <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote:
> #Well...... my question was more about the recommended gear lube.
> #
> #In the WJs it has changed in the past couple years from the 80w-90 they
> #recommended for so long.
>
> It depends. If you have the quadra drive system, you need to
> have the special (as in "Special Education" special) lube.
> 75w-140 syn with the limited slip additive for the pumpkins
> and the only-available-from-Mopar NV249 transfercase lube.
> Don't use ATF of any kind type or sort, even though that is
> what DC shipped in my WJ.
>
> My '99 WJ manual says you can use 80w-90 if you don't have
> the quadra drive.
>
> /herb
4oz of limited slip additive with track-lock, vari-lock and 35C rear ends.
You can get the magic juice at a ford dealer it is the same as chrystlers
also Auto zone sells it along with Vavoline ATF+4 tranny fluid, which is
used in the auto trannys, transfer case and power stearing units too.
Coasty
"Herb Leong" <herb@urusei.net> wrote in message
news:v-udnYqJWoGnH8DZRVn-uQ@speakeasy.net...
> In article <dcdd6$445d692c$48311525$12979@FUSE.NET>,
> billy ray <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote:
> #Well...... my question was more about the recommended gear lube.
> #
> #In the WJs it has changed in the past couple years from the 80w-90 they
> #recommended for so long.
>
> It depends. If you have the quadra drive system, you need to
> have the special (as in "Special Education" special) lube.
> 75w-140 syn with the limited slip additive for the pumpkins
> and the only-available-from-Mopar NV249 transfercase lube.
> Don't use ATF of any kind type or sort, even though that is
> what DC shipped in my WJ.
>
> My '99 WJ manual says you can use 80w-90 if you don't have
> the quadra drive.
>
> /herb
05-07-2006, 07:16 AM
#44
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Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods. The
old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change. I
have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks they
have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
and their engines last well over 200k.
New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
time, the environment and resources.
Coasty
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445D7DBC.231D32DC@***.net...
> Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule
>> says,
>> "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule
>> 'B'",
>> many are not.
>>
>> Earle
old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change. I
have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks they
have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
and their engines last well over 200k.
New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
time, the environment and resources.
Coasty
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445D7DBC.231D32DC@***.net...
> Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule
>> says,
>> "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule
>> 'B'",
>> many are not.
>>
>> Earle
05-07-2006, 07:16 AM
#45
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Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods. The
old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change. I
have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks they
have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
and their engines last well over 200k.
New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
time, the environment and resources.
Coasty
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445D7DBC.231D32DC@***.net...
> Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule
>> says,
>> "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule
>> 'B'",
>> many are not.
>>
>> Earle
old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change. I
have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks they
have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
and their engines last well over 200k.
New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
time, the environment and resources.
Coasty
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445D7DBC.231D32DC@***.net...
> Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule
>> says,
>> "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule
>> 'B'",
>> many are not.
>>
>> Earle
05-07-2006, 07:16 AM
#46
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods. The
old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change. I
have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks they
have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
and their engines last well over 200k.
New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
time, the environment and resources.
Coasty
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445D7DBC.231D32DC@***.net...
> Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule
>> says,
>> "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule
>> 'B'",
>> many are not.
>>
>> Earle
old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change. I
have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks they
have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
and their engines last well over 200k.
New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
time, the environment and resources.
Coasty
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:445D7DBC.231D32DC@***.net...
> Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>> Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule
>> says,
>> "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule
>> 'B'",
>> many are not.
>>
>> Earle
05-07-2006, 11:13 AM
#47
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
Bill is right about short trips, but modern fuel injected engines, with
their higher operating temperature, may change the definition of "short
trip". I have to go fifty miles to get groceries, and I walk places in
town, so I just don't worry about it.
Earle
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:HICdnWMd8o1iS8DZRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods. The
> old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
>
> Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
> every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
> Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change.
I
> have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
>
> Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
> not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
> tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
> but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
>
> Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks
they
> have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
> and their engines last well over 200k.
>
> New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
> time, the environment and resources.
>
> Coasty
>
>
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:445D7DBC.231D32DC@***.net...
> > Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >> Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule
> >> says,
> >> "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule
> >> 'B'",
> >> many are not.
> >>
> >> Earle
>
>
their higher operating temperature, may change the definition of "short
trip". I have to go fifty miles to get groceries, and I walk places in
town, so I just don't worry about it.
Earle
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:HICdnWMd8o1iS8DZRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods. The
> old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
>
> Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
> every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
> Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change.
I
> have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
>
> Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
> not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
> tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
> but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
>
> Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks
they
> have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
> and their engines last well over 200k.
>
> New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
> time, the environment and resources.
>
> Coasty
>
>
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:445D7DBC.231D32DC@***.net...
> > Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >> Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule
> >> says,
> >> "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule
> >> 'B'",
> >> many are not.
> >>
> >> Earle
>
>
05-07-2006, 11:13 AM
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
Bill is right about short trips, but modern fuel injected engines, with
their higher operating temperature, may change the definition of "short
trip". I have to go fifty miles to get groceries, and I walk places in
town, so I just don't worry about it.
Earle
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:HICdnWMd8o1iS8DZRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods. The
> old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
>
> Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
> every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
> Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change.
I
> have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
>
> Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
> not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
> tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
> but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
>
> Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks
they
> have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
> and their engines last well over 200k.
>
> New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
> time, the environment and resources.
>
> Coasty
>
>
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:445D7DBC.231D32DC@***.net...
> > Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >> Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule
> >> says,
> >> "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule
> >> 'B'",
> >> many are not.
> >>
> >> Earle
>
>
their higher operating temperature, may change the definition of "short
trip". I have to go fifty miles to get groceries, and I walk places in
town, so I just don't worry about it.
Earle
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:HICdnWMd8o1iS8DZRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods. The
> old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
>
> Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
> every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
> Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change.
I
> have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
>
> Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
> not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
> tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
> but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
>
> Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks
they
> have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
> and their engines last well over 200k.
>
> New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
> time, the environment and resources.
>
> Coasty
>
>
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:445D7DBC.231D32DC@***.net...
> > Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >> Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule
> >> says,
> >> "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule
> >> 'B'",
> >> many are not.
> >>
> >> Earle
>
>
05-07-2006, 11:13 AM
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
Bill is right about short trips, but modern fuel injected engines, with
their higher operating temperature, may change the definition of "short
trip". I have to go fifty miles to get groceries, and I walk places in
town, so I just don't worry about it.
Earle
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:HICdnWMd8o1iS8DZRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods. The
> old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
>
> Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
> every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
> Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change.
I
> have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
>
> Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
> not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
> tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
> but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
>
> Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks
they
> have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
> and their engines last well over 200k.
>
> New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
> time, the environment and resources.
>
> Coasty
>
>
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:445D7DBC.231D32DC@***.net...
> > Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >> Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule
> >> says,
> >> "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule
> >> 'B'",
> >> many are not.
> >>
> >> Earle
>
>
their higher operating temperature, may change the definition of "short
trip". I have to go fifty miles to get groceries, and I walk places in
town, so I just don't worry about it.
Earle
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:HICdnWMd8o1iS8DZRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods. The
> old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
>
> Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
> every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
> Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change.
I
> have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
>
> Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
> not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
> tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
> but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
>
> Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks
they
> have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
> and their engines last well over 200k.
>
> New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
> time, the environment and resources.
>
> Coasty
>
>
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:445D7DBC.231D32DC@***.net...
> > Short trips of less than ten miles are a real sludge maker.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >> Note that he's only included "Schedule B". Although as the schedule
> >> says,
> >> "Most vehicles are operated under the conditions listed for Schedule
> >> 'B'",
> >> many are not.
> >>
> >> Earle
>
>
05-07-2006, 08:02 PM
#50
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Re: Jeep grand 93 5.2L using up alot of oil, no leaking?
By what magic do you think your engine gets rid of acid?
http://autorepair.about.com/library/.../bldef-501.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Coasty wrote:
>
> Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods. The
> old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
>
> Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
> every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
> Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change. I
> have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
>
> Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
> not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
> tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
> but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
>
> Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks they
> have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
> and their engines last well over 200k.
>
> New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
> time, the environment and resources.
>
> Coasty
http://autorepair.about.com/library/.../bldef-501.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Coasty wrote:
>
> Short runs only if they are continuous and constant for long periods. The
> old adage of the 3k oil change regardless of how you drive is old school.
>
> Modern engines 10 years and newer do not generally need their oil changed
> every 3k even motorcycles. I change all my vehicles except for my wife's
> Shadow (7 mi to work one-way) all are at 6k. the Harley gets a 5k change. I
> have a 130k on the Ram and it only uses a 1/2 between a 6k change.
>
> Motor Week and Pat Goss had a great article on oil, like most things it is
> not your Dads or Grand Pa's way any more times, technology and engines
> change on their needs. The sky is falling on the 3k oil change is old and
> tired those who continue on are just wasting time, money and our resources
> but if that is what they want to do it is their choice.
>
> Many high end autos Lexus, Mercedes, BMW etc do not even have dipsticks they
> have sensors to let you know when the oil needs changing and it is 10-15k
> and their engines last well over 200k.
>
> New school, use synthetic oil as per MFGR, change as per MFGR, save money,
> time, the environment and resources.
>
> Coasty