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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-26-2004 02:35 AM

Re: Jeep Engine Stalls Just After Startup
 
Do the same to your idle step motor, that and the computer are what
actually controls the engine speed and the valve frequently is jammed
with carbon: http://members.cox.net/wilsond/tb/tb.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Chuck Rowe wrote:
>
>
> Well, that being the case, I guess I'm stumped. I cleaned the TBA,
> including IAP less than 2500 miles ago. I want to say that cleaning
> helped for a little while, but things are deteriorating again.
>
> Aside from the simple spraying of the TBA and maybe a little
> toothbrush assist, is there anything else I might try.
>
> Thanks in advance for all of your responses!!


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-26-2004 02:35 AM

Re: Jeep Engine Stalls Just After Startup
 
Do the same to your idle step motor, that and the computer are what
actually controls the engine speed and the valve frequently is jammed
with carbon: http://members.cox.net/wilsond/tb/tb.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Chuck Rowe wrote:
>
>
> Well, that being the case, I guess I'm stumped. I cleaned the TBA,
> including IAP less than 2500 miles ago. I want to say that cleaning
> helped for a little while, but things are deteriorating again.
>
> Aside from the simple spraying of the TBA and maybe a little
> toothbrush assist, is there anything else I might try.
>
> Thanks in advance for all of your responses!!


Chuck Rowe 08-26-2004 07:17 AM

Re: Jeep Engine Stalls Just After Startup
 
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:35:05 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Do the same to your idle step motor, that and the computer are what
>actually controls the engine speed and the valve frequently is jammed
>with carbon: http://members.cox.net/wilsond/tb/tb.html



doo-dad #2 is the Idle Air Motor (53007562)

Is that what you're referring to? Do I just clean the electrical
contacts or is it necessary to remove the whole unit? If so, how
dangerous is this for a relative amatuer mechanic?

Chuck Rowe 08-26-2004 07:17 AM

Re: Jeep Engine Stalls Just After Startup
 
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:35:05 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Do the same to your idle step motor, that and the computer are what
>actually controls the engine speed and the valve frequently is jammed
>with carbon: http://members.cox.net/wilsond/tb/tb.html



doo-dad #2 is the Idle Air Motor (53007562)

Is that what you're referring to? Do I just clean the electrical
contacts or is it necessary to remove the whole unit? If so, how
dangerous is this for a relative amatuer mechanic?

Chuck Rowe 08-26-2004 07:17 AM

Re: Jeep Engine Stalls Just After Startup
 
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:35:05 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Do the same to your idle step motor, that and the computer are what
>actually controls the engine speed and the valve frequently is jammed
>with carbon: http://members.cox.net/wilsond/tb/tb.html



doo-dad #2 is the Idle Air Motor (53007562)

Is that what you're referring to? Do I just clean the electrical
contacts or is it necessary to remove the whole unit? If so, how
dangerous is this for a relative amatuer mechanic?

Mike Romain 08-26-2004 08:40 AM

Re: Jeep Engine Stalls Just After Startup
 
That is only for the very first generation ones that went dark Bill.

Once they started turning colors, usually green, they actually have a
little ball in there that floats when the specific gravity is right for
charged.

http://www.itwdelpro.com/battery.html

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I don't see how that would work, there's no fluid in the plastic
> tube to act as a gravity tester, all it is a pointed cone at the end
> that acts a prism.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Over 2 volts Bill. The green ball moves both by fluid level and
> > specific gravity so it actually does test the fluid as well as letting
> > you know when low.
> >
> > Very much like the colored ball battery testers, remember them? It had
> > X charge according to which ball floated at the top.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


Mike Romain 08-26-2004 08:40 AM

Re: Jeep Engine Stalls Just After Startup
 
That is only for the very first generation ones that went dark Bill.

Once they started turning colors, usually green, they actually have a
little ball in there that floats when the specific gravity is right for
charged.

http://www.itwdelpro.com/battery.html

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I don't see how that would work, there's no fluid in the plastic
> tube to act as a gravity tester, all it is a pointed cone at the end
> that acts a prism.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Over 2 volts Bill. The green ball moves both by fluid level and
> > specific gravity so it actually does test the fluid as well as letting
> > you know when low.
> >
> > Very much like the colored ball battery testers, remember them? It had
> > X charge according to which ball floated at the top.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


Mike Romain 08-26-2004 08:40 AM

Re: Jeep Engine Stalls Just After Startup
 
That is only for the very first generation ones that went dark Bill.

Once they started turning colors, usually green, they actually have a
little ball in there that floats when the specific gravity is right for
charged.

http://www.itwdelpro.com/battery.html

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I don't see how that would work, there's no fluid in the plastic
> tube to act as a gravity tester, all it is a pointed cone at the end
> that acts a prism.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Over 2 volts Bill. The green ball moves both by fluid level and
> > specific gravity so it actually does test the fluid as well as letting
> > you know when low.
> >
> > Very much like the colored ball battery testers, remember them? It had
> > X charge according to which ball floated at the top.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


Jeff Lowe 08-26-2004 08:59 AM

Re: Jeep Engine Stalls Just After Startup
 
Follow the link Bill: http://www.itwdelpro.com/battery.html
There are diagrams of how it works. There is more to it than just the pointy
plastic rod.

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:412D253C.B68E13C0@cox.net...
> I don't see how that would work, there's no fluid in the plastic
> tube to act as a gravity tester, all it is a pointed cone at the end
> that acts a prism.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Over 2 volts Bill. The green ball moves both by fluid level and
> > specific gravity so it actually does test the fluid as well as letting
> > you know when low.
> >
> > Very much like the colored ball battery testers, remember them? It had
> > X charge according to which ball floated at the top.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




Jeff Lowe 08-26-2004 08:59 AM

Re: Jeep Engine Stalls Just After Startup
 
Follow the link Bill: http://www.itwdelpro.com/battery.html
There are diagrams of how it works. There is more to it than just the pointy
plastic rod.

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:412D253C.B68E13C0@cox.net...
> I don't see how that would work, there's no fluid in the plastic
> tube to act as a gravity tester, all it is a pointed cone at the end
> that acts a prism.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Over 2 volts Bill. The green ball moves both by fluid level and
> > specific gravity so it actually does test the fluid as well as letting
> > you know when low.
> >
> > Very much like the colored ball battery testers, remember them? It had
> > X charge according to which ball floated at the top.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's





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