proof that what I said years ago: amc's jeeps were the last true, real
Jeeps..and when krysler stopped making those, things went downhilll - fast.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310271147.63e5e07a@posting.google.c om...
> I have cut and pasted some of the key passages. Didn't reproduce the
> whole thing due to lack of copyright. For the full article, link to:
>
>
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content....code=carnews&l
oc_code=index&content_code=06685248
>
>
>
> <B>Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> Rated'</B>
>
>
> By MARY CONNELLY and RICK KRANZ | Automotive News
>
> The Chrysler group plans to expand the Jeep line with SUVs that move
> away from Jeep's historic roots and won't be serious off-road
> vehicles.
>
> "We have to extend our lineup" and offer Jeeps that will be used "99
> percent of the time on-road," COO Wolfgang Bernhard said last week at
> a press event in Austin, Texas.
>
> The decision comes as the Chrysler group is spending heavily to
> position Jeep as the "real 4x4" in a world in which the definition of
> an SUV is expanding.
>
> The Chrysler group needs to re-energize Jeep because the brand has
> slipped badly in recent years. Jeep held 19.0 percent of the U.S. SUV
> market in 1999 but only 11.2 percent in 2002.
>
> Jeep sales peaked at 554,466 units in 1999, the year after
> Daimler-Benz's acquisition of Chrysler Corp. Sales fell to 459,796
> last year and are down 6.4 percent so far this year.
>
>
> ---> P.S. - I saw another related "new product" article which says
> Subaru is coming out with a model called the "BC9 Scrambler" in 2004.
> I dunno how trademark law works exactly, but I bet this will prevent
> the new TJ8 from being called a Scrambler.

 

proof that what I said years ago: amc's jeeps were the last true, real
Jeeps..and when krysler stopped making those, things went downhilll - fast.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310271147.63e5e07a@posting.google.c om...
> I have cut and pasted some of the key passages. Didn't reproduce the
> whole thing due to lack of copyright. For the full article, link to:
>
>
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content....code=carnews&l
oc_code=index&content_code=06685248
>
>
>
> <B>Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> Rated'</B>
>
>
> By MARY CONNELLY and RICK KRANZ | Automotive News
>
> The Chrysler group plans to expand the Jeep line with SUVs that move
> away from Jeep's historic roots and won't be serious off-road
> vehicles.
>
> "We have to extend our lineup" and offer Jeeps that will be used "99
> percent of the time on-road," COO Wolfgang Bernhard said last week at
> a press event in Austin, Texas.
>
> The decision comes as the Chrysler group is spending heavily to
> position Jeep as the "real 4x4" in a world in which the definition of
> an SUV is expanding.
>
> The Chrysler group needs to re-energize Jeep because the brand has
> slipped badly in recent years. Jeep held 19.0 percent of the U.S. SUV
> market in 1999 but only 11.2 percent in 2002.
>
> Jeep sales peaked at 554,466 units in 1999, the year after
> Daimler-Benz's acquisition of Chrysler Corp. Sales fell to 459,796
> last year and are down 6.4 percent so far this year.
>
>
> ---> P.S. - I saw another related "new product" article which says
> Subaru is coming out with a model called the "BC9 Scrambler" in 2004.
> I dunno how trademark law works exactly, but I bet this will prevent
> the new TJ8 from being called a Scrambler.

 

proof that what I said years ago: amc's jeeps were the last true, real
Jeeps..and when krysler stopped making those, things went downhilll - fast.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310271147.63e5e07a@posting.google.c om...
> I have cut and pasted some of the key passages. Didn't reproduce the
> whole thing due to lack of copyright. For the full article, link to:
>
>
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content....code=carnews&l
oc_code=index&content_code=06685248
>
>
>
> <B>Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> Rated'</B>
>
>
> By MARY CONNELLY and RICK KRANZ | Automotive News
>
> The Chrysler group plans to expand the Jeep line with SUVs that move
> away from Jeep's historic roots and won't be serious off-road
> vehicles.
>
> "We have to extend our lineup" and offer Jeeps that will be used "99
> percent of the time on-road," COO Wolfgang Bernhard said last week at
> a press event in Austin, Texas.
>
> The decision comes as the Chrysler group is spending heavily to
> position Jeep as the "real 4x4" in a world in which the definition of
> an SUV is expanding.
>
> The Chrysler group needs to re-energize Jeep because the brand has
> slipped badly in recent years. Jeep held 19.0 percent of the U.S. SUV
> market in 1999 but only 11.2 percent in 2002.
>
> Jeep sales peaked at 554,466 units in 1999, the year after
> Daimler-Benz's acquisition of Chrysler Corp. Sales fell to 459,796
> last year and are down 6.4 percent so far this year.
>
>
> ---> P.S. - I saw another related "new product" article which says
> Subaru is coming out with a model called the "BC9 Scrambler" in 2004.
> I dunno how trademark law works exactly, but I bet this will prevent
> the new TJ8 from being called a Scrambler.

 

Didn't you mean, things started going down hill from when Kaiser
stopped making them? Like with your unitized frame, and sheet metal box
whatever they are, they're not frames, because a frame wouldn't rust out
at the motor mount and spring shackles.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

attnews wrote:
>
> proof that what I said years ago: amc's jeeps were the last true, real
> Jeeps..and when krysler stopped making those, things went downhilll - fast.

 

Didn't you mean, things started going down hill from when Kaiser
stopped making them? Like with your unitized frame, and sheet metal box
whatever they are, they're not frames, because a frame wouldn't rust out
at the motor mount and spring shackles.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

attnews wrote:
>
> proof that what I said years ago: amc's jeeps were the last true, real
> Jeeps..and when krysler stopped making those, things went downhilll - fast.

 

Didn't you mean, things started going down hill from when Kaiser
stopped making them? Like with your unitized frame, and sheet metal box
whatever they are, they're not frames, because a frame wouldn't rust out
at the motor mount and spring shackles.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

attnews wrote:
>
> proof that what I said years ago: amc's jeeps were the last true, real
> Jeeps..and when krysler stopped making those, things went downhilll - fast.

 

Interesting is this quote from that article:

"For example, one of four Jeep owners drives off-road compared with one in
10 SUV owners, said Jeff Bell, Jeep marketing vice president, at a press
event in Detroit last week."

I personally believe that is one in four Wrangler owners. I really don't
think the above statement applies to Liberties or Grand Cherokees.

Tom

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310271147.63e5e07a@posting.google.c om...
> I have cut and pasted some of the key passages. Didn't reproduce the
> whole thing due to lack of copyright. For the full article, link to:
>
>
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...._code=06685248
>
>
>
> <B>Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> Rated'</B>
>
>
> By MARY CONNELLY and RICK KRANZ | Automotive News
>
> The Chrysler group plans to expand the Jeep line with SUVs that move
> away from Jeep's historic roots and won't be serious off-road
> vehicles.
>
> "We have to extend our lineup" and offer Jeeps that will be used "99
> percent of the time on-road," COO Wolfgang Bernhard said last week at
> a press event in Austin, Texas.
>
> The decision comes as the Chrysler group is spending heavily to
> position Jeep as the "real 4x4" in a world in which the definition of
> an SUV is expanding.
>
> The Chrysler group needs to re-energize Jeep because the brand has
> slipped badly in recent years. Jeep held 19.0 percent of the U.S. SUV
> market in 1999 but only 11.2 percent in 2002.
>
> Jeep sales peaked at 554,466 units in 1999, the year after
> Daimler-Benz's acquisition of Chrysler Corp. Sales fell to 459,796
> last year and are down 6.4 percent so far this year.
>
>
> ---> P.S. - I saw another related "new product" article which says
> Subaru is coming out with a model called the "BC9 Scrambler" in 2004.
> I dunno how trademark law works exactly, but I bet this will prevent
> the new TJ8 from being called a Scrambler.

 

Interesting is this quote from that article:

"For example, one of four Jeep owners drives off-road compared with one in
10 SUV owners, said Jeff Bell, Jeep marketing vice president, at a press
event in Detroit last week."

I personally believe that is one in four Wrangler owners. I really don't
think the above statement applies to Liberties or Grand Cherokees.

Tom

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310271147.63e5e07a@posting.google.c om...
> I have cut and pasted some of the key passages. Didn't reproduce the
> whole thing due to lack of copyright. For the full article, link to:
>
>
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...._code=06685248
>
>
>
> <B>Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> Rated'</B>
>
>
> By MARY CONNELLY and RICK KRANZ | Automotive News
>
> The Chrysler group plans to expand the Jeep line with SUVs that move
> away from Jeep's historic roots and won't be serious off-road
> vehicles.
>
> "We have to extend our lineup" and offer Jeeps that will be used "99
> percent of the time on-road," COO Wolfgang Bernhard said last week at
> a press event in Austin, Texas.
>
> The decision comes as the Chrysler group is spending heavily to
> position Jeep as the "real 4x4" in a world in which the definition of
> an SUV is expanding.
>
> The Chrysler group needs to re-energize Jeep because the brand has
> slipped badly in recent years. Jeep held 19.0 percent of the U.S. SUV
> market in 1999 but only 11.2 percent in 2002.
>
> Jeep sales peaked at 554,466 units in 1999, the year after
> Daimler-Benz's acquisition of Chrysler Corp. Sales fell to 459,796
> last year and are down 6.4 percent so far this year.
>
>
> ---> P.S. - I saw another related "new product" article which says
> Subaru is coming out with a model called the "BC9 Scrambler" in 2004.
> I dunno how trademark law works exactly, but I bet this will prevent
> the new TJ8 from being called a Scrambler.

 

Interesting is this quote from that article:

"For example, one of four Jeep owners drives off-road compared with one in
10 SUV owners, said Jeff Bell, Jeep marketing vice president, at a press
event in Detroit last week."

I personally believe that is one in four Wrangler owners. I really don't
think the above statement applies to Liberties or Grand Cherokees.

Tom

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310271147.63e5e07a@posting.google.c om...
> I have cut and pasted some of the key passages. Didn't reproduce the
> whole thing due to lack of copyright. For the full article, link to:
>
>
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...._code=06685248
>
>
>
> <B>Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> Rated'</B>
>
>
> By MARY CONNELLY and RICK KRANZ | Automotive News
>
> The Chrysler group plans to expand the Jeep line with SUVs that move
> away from Jeep's historic roots and won't be serious off-road
> vehicles.
>
> "We have to extend our lineup" and offer Jeeps that will be used "99
> percent of the time on-road," COO Wolfgang Bernhard said last week at
> a press event in Austin, Texas.
>
> The decision comes as the Chrysler group is spending heavily to
> position Jeep as the "real 4x4" in a world in which the definition of
> an SUV is expanding.
>
> The Chrysler group needs to re-energize Jeep because the brand has
> slipped badly in recent years. Jeep held 19.0 percent of the U.S. SUV
> market in 1999 but only 11.2 percent in 2002.
>
> Jeep sales peaked at 554,466 units in 1999, the year after
> Daimler-Benz's acquisition of Chrysler Corp. Sales fell to 459,796
> last year and are down 6.4 percent so far this year.
>
>
> ---> P.S. - I saw another related "new product" article which says
> Subaru is coming out with a model called the "BC9 Scrambler" in 2004.
> I dunno how trademark law works exactly, but I bet this will prevent
> the new TJ8 from being called a Scrambler.

 

Oh, NOW you chime in. Where were you last week when I was being
picked on by all the TJ enthusiasts? ;-)

> proof that what I said years ago: amc's jeeps were the last true, real
> Jeeps..and when krysler stopped making those, things went downhilll - fast.