Jeep brand to become "less rugged" according to chrysler
10-27-2003, 08:32 PM
#11
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Re: Jeep brand to become "less rugged" according to chrysler
------------<SNIPPED>---------------
> >Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> >Rated'
>
> Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are saying
> they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
------------<SNIPPED>---------------
Profitability always has to enter into any business and DC has to stay
profitable in order to stay in business.
I see a lot of remarks about the Liberty not being a "real" Jeep. None
of the real Jeeps I rode in while in the Army had air conditioning but
I noticed that a Rubicon I looked at did have A/C so does that mean
the Rubicon is not a "real" Jeep? I don't think so, it just
acknowledges the reality of the marketplace and there is not much room
in the market for any vehicle that does not offer A/C.
I am the proud owner of a 2004 Liberty Sport and am very happy that
Jeep decided to build a vehicle that fits my needs. I agree it is not
a "rock crawler", but I don't want a "rock crawler". Those of you who
are still young wait until you get to be 58 and have a bad back, those
"rock crawlers" will be a lot less appealing to you then.
I enjoy seeing the really tough Jeeps when we go to Moab. We drive
many of the less demanding trails (did I mention that my wife has
arthritis in her neck and can't stand the beating a "real" Jeep would
give her) and thoroughly enjoy ourselves.
For the past few years I drove a Nissan 4 X 4 King Cab pickup so we
could go off road. When we decided to get something new we looked at
the X-Terra first and it just didn't seem to be a very impressive
vehicle.
Then we looked at the Liberty and knew it was exactly what we wanted.
I hope Jeep continues to build the Rubicon and it's successors for
many years to come but I hope they also continue the Liberty and Grand
Cherokee. You young folk will need them someday when you too get too
old and sore to drive the Rubicons.
Bill Tolle "I used to make fun of old folks but now I are one :-)"
> >Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> >Rated'
>
> Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are saying
> they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
------------<SNIPPED>---------------
Profitability always has to enter into any business and DC has to stay
profitable in order to stay in business.
I see a lot of remarks about the Liberty not being a "real" Jeep. None
of the real Jeeps I rode in while in the Army had air conditioning but
I noticed that a Rubicon I looked at did have A/C so does that mean
the Rubicon is not a "real" Jeep? I don't think so, it just
acknowledges the reality of the marketplace and there is not much room
in the market for any vehicle that does not offer A/C.
I am the proud owner of a 2004 Liberty Sport and am very happy that
Jeep decided to build a vehicle that fits my needs. I agree it is not
a "rock crawler", but I don't want a "rock crawler". Those of you who
are still young wait until you get to be 58 and have a bad back, those
"rock crawlers" will be a lot less appealing to you then.
I enjoy seeing the really tough Jeeps when we go to Moab. We drive
many of the less demanding trails (did I mention that my wife has
arthritis in her neck and can't stand the beating a "real" Jeep would
give her) and thoroughly enjoy ourselves.
For the past few years I drove a Nissan 4 X 4 King Cab pickup so we
could go off road. When we decided to get something new we looked at
the X-Terra first and it just didn't seem to be a very impressive
vehicle.
Then we looked at the Liberty and knew it was exactly what we wanted.
I hope Jeep continues to build the Rubicon and it's successors for
many years to come but I hope they also continue the Liberty and Grand
Cherokee. You young folk will need them someday when you too get too
old and sore to drive the Rubicons.
Bill Tolle "I used to make fun of old folks but now I are one :-)"
10-27-2003, 08:32 PM
#12
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Re: Jeep brand to become "less rugged" according to chrysler
------------<SNIPPED>---------------
> >Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> >Rated'
>
> Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are saying
> they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
------------<SNIPPED>---------------
Profitability always has to enter into any business and DC has to stay
profitable in order to stay in business.
I see a lot of remarks about the Liberty not being a "real" Jeep. None
of the real Jeeps I rode in while in the Army had air conditioning but
I noticed that a Rubicon I looked at did have A/C so does that mean
the Rubicon is not a "real" Jeep? I don't think so, it just
acknowledges the reality of the marketplace and there is not much room
in the market for any vehicle that does not offer A/C.
I am the proud owner of a 2004 Liberty Sport and am very happy that
Jeep decided to build a vehicle that fits my needs. I agree it is not
a "rock crawler", but I don't want a "rock crawler". Those of you who
are still young wait until you get to be 58 and have a bad back, those
"rock crawlers" will be a lot less appealing to you then.
I enjoy seeing the really tough Jeeps when we go to Moab. We drive
many of the less demanding trails (did I mention that my wife has
arthritis in her neck and can't stand the beating a "real" Jeep would
give her) and thoroughly enjoy ourselves.
For the past few years I drove a Nissan 4 X 4 King Cab pickup so we
could go off road. When we decided to get something new we looked at
the X-Terra first and it just didn't seem to be a very impressive
vehicle.
Then we looked at the Liberty and knew it was exactly what we wanted.
I hope Jeep continues to build the Rubicon and it's successors for
many years to come but I hope they also continue the Liberty and Grand
Cherokee. You young folk will need them someday when you too get too
old and sore to drive the Rubicons.
Bill Tolle "I used to make fun of old folks but now I are one :-)"
> >Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> >Rated'
>
> Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are saying
> they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
------------<SNIPPED>---------------
Profitability always has to enter into any business and DC has to stay
profitable in order to stay in business.
I see a lot of remarks about the Liberty not being a "real" Jeep. None
of the real Jeeps I rode in while in the Army had air conditioning but
I noticed that a Rubicon I looked at did have A/C so does that mean
the Rubicon is not a "real" Jeep? I don't think so, it just
acknowledges the reality of the marketplace and there is not much room
in the market for any vehicle that does not offer A/C.
I am the proud owner of a 2004 Liberty Sport and am very happy that
Jeep decided to build a vehicle that fits my needs. I agree it is not
a "rock crawler", but I don't want a "rock crawler". Those of you who
are still young wait until you get to be 58 and have a bad back, those
"rock crawlers" will be a lot less appealing to you then.
I enjoy seeing the really tough Jeeps when we go to Moab. We drive
many of the less demanding trails (did I mention that my wife has
arthritis in her neck and can't stand the beating a "real" Jeep would
give her) and thoroughly enjoy ourselves.
For the past few years I drove a Nissan 4 X 4 King Cab pickup so we
could go off road. When we decided to get something new we looked at
the X-Terra first and it just didn't seem to be a very impressive
vehicle.
Then we looked at the Liberty and knew it was exactly what we wanted.
I hope Jeep continues to build the Rubicon and it's successors for
many years to come but I hope they also continue the Liberty and Grand
Cherokee. You young folk will need them someday when you too get too
old and sore to drive the Rubicons.
Bill Tolle "I used to make fun of old folks but now I are one :-)"
10-27-2003, 08:32 PM
#13
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Re: Jeep brand to become "less rugged" according to chrysler
------------<SNIPPED>---------------
> >Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> >Rated'
>
> Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are saying
> they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
------------<SNIPPED>---------------
Profitability always has to enter into any business and DC has to stay
profitable in order to stay in business.
I see a lot of remarks about the Liberty not being a "real" Jeep. None
of the real Jeeps I rode in while in the Army had air conditioning but
I noticed that a Rubicon I looked at did have A/C so does that mean
the Rubicon is not a "real" Jeep? I don't think so, it just
acknowledges the reality of the marketplace and there is not much room
in the market for any vehicle that does not offer A/C.
I am the proud owner of a 2004 Liberty Sport and am very happy that
Jeep decided to build a vehicle that fits my needs. I agree it is not
a "rock crawler", but I don't want a "rock crawler". Those of you who
are still young wait until you get to be 58 and have a bad back, those
"rock crawlers" will be a lot less appealing to you then.
I enjoy seeing the really tough Jeeps when we go to Moab. We drive
many of the less demanding trails (did I mention that my wife has
arthritis in her neck and can't stand the beating a "real" Jeep would
give her) and thoroughly enjoy ourselves.
For the past few years I drove a Nissan 4 X 4 King Cab pickup so we
could go off road. When we decided to get something new we looked at
the X-Terra first and it just didn't seem to be a very impressive
vehicle.
Then we looked at the Liberty and knew it was exactly what we wanted.
I hope Jeep continues to build the Rubicon and it's successors for
many years to come but I hope they also continue the Liberty and Grand
Cherokee. You young folk will need them someday when you too get too
old and sore to drive the Rubicons.
Bill Tolle "I used to make fun of old folks but now I are one :-)"
> >Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> >Rated'
>
> Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are saying
> they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
------------<SNIPPED>---------------
Profitability always has to enter into any business and DC has to stay
profitable in order to stay in business.
I see a lot of remarks about the Liberty not being a "real" Jeep. None
of the real Jeeps I rode in while in the Army had air conditioning but
I noticed that a Rubicon I looked at did have A/C so does that mean
the Rubicon is not a "real" Jeep? I don't think so, it just
acknowledges the reality of the marketplace and there is not much room
in the market for any vehicle that does not offer A/C.
I am the proud owner of a 2004 Liberty Sport and am very happy that
Jeep decided to build a vehicle that fits my needs. I agree it is not
a "rock crawler", but I don't want a "rock crawler". Those of you who
are still young wait until you get to be 58 and have a bad back, those
"rock crawlers" will be a lot less appealing to you then.
I enjoy seeing the really tough Jeeps when we go to Moab. We drive
many of the less demanding trails (did I mention that my wife has
arthritis in her neck and can't stand the beating a "real" Jeep would
give her) and thoroughly enjoy ourselves.
For the past few years I drove a Nissan 4 X 4 King Cab pickup so we
could go off road. When we decided to get something new we looked at
the X-Terra first and it just didn't seem to be a very impressive
vehicle.
Then we looked at the Liberty and knew it was exactly what we wanted.
I hope Jeep continues to build the Rubicon and it's successors for
many years to come but I hope they also continue the Liberty and Grand
Cherokee. You young folk will need them someday when you too get too
old and sore to drive the Rubicons.
Bill Tolle "I used to make fun of old folks but now I are one :-)"
10-27-2003, 09:03 PM
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Re: Jeep brand to become "less rugged" according to chrysler
Bill, meet Bill... LOL
--
Jim
"Bill Tolle" <BillTolle@SpamCop.net> wrote in message
news:9b77986d.0310271732.35875d67@posting.google.c om...
> ------------<SNIPPED>---------------
> > >Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> > >Rated'
> >
> > Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are
saying
> > they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
> ------------<SNIPPED>---------------
>
> Profitability always has to enter into any business and DC has to stay
> profitable in order to stay in business.
>
> I see a lot of remarks about the Liberty not being a "real" Jeep. None
> of the real Jeeps I rode in while in the Army had air conditioning but
> I noticed that a Rubicon I looked at did have A/C so does that mean
> the Rubicon is not a "real" Jeep? I don't think so, it just
> acknowledges the reality of the marketplace and there is not much room
> in the market for any vehicle that does not offer A/C.
>
> I am the proud owner of a 2004 Liberty Sport and am very happy that
> Jeep decided to build a vehicle that fits my needs. I agree it is not
> a "rock crawler", but I don't want a "rock crawler". Those of you who
> are still young wait until you get to be 58 and have a bad back, those
> "rock crawlers" will be a lot less appealing to you then.
>
> I enjoy seeing the really tough Jeeps when we go to Moab. We drive
> many of the less demanding trails (did I mention that my wife has
> arthritis in her neck and can't stand the beating a "real" Jeep would
> give her) and thoroughly enjoy ourselves.
>
> For the past few years I drove a Nissan 4 X 4 King Cab pickup so we
> could go off road. When we decided to get something new we looked at
> the X-Terra first and it just didn't seem to be a very impressive
> vehicle.
>
> Then we looked at the Liberty and knew it was exactly what we wanted.
>
> I hope Jeep continues to build the Rubicon and it's successors for
> many years to come but I hope they also continue the Liberty and Grand
> Cherokee. You young folk will need them someday when you too get too
> old and sore to drive the Rubicons.
>
> Bill Tolle "I used to make fun of old folks but now I are one :-)"
--
Jim
"Bill Tolle" <BillTolle@SpamCop.net> wrote in message
news:9b77986d.0310271732.35875d67@posting.google.c om...
> ------------<SNIPPED>---------------
> > >Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> > >Rated'
> >
> > Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are
saying
> > they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
> ------------<SNIPPED>---------------
>
> Profitability always has to enter into any business and DC has to stay
> profitable in order to stay in business.
>
> I see a lot of remarks about the Liberty not being a "real" Jeep. None
> of the real Jeeps I rode in while in the Army had air conditioning but
> I noticed that a Rubicon I looked at did have A/C so does that mean
> the Rubicon is not a "real" Jeep? I don't think so, it just
> acknowledges the reality of the marketplace and there is not much room
> in the market for any vehicle that does not offer A/C.
>
> I am the proud owner of a 2004 Liberty Sport and am very happy that
> Jeep decided to build a vehicle that fits my needs. I agree it is not
> a "rock crawler", but I don't want a "rock crawler". Those of you who
> are still young wait until you get to be 58 and have a bad back, those
> "rock crawlers" will be a lot less appealing to you then.
>
> I enjoy seeing the really tough Jeeps when we go to Moab. We drive
> many of the less demanding trails (did I mention that my wife has
> arthritis in her neck and can't stand the beating a "real" Jeep would
> give her) and thoroughly enjoy ourselves.
>
> For the past few years I drove a Nissan 4 X 4 King Cab pickup so we
> could go off road. When we decided to get something new we looked at
> the X-Terra first and it just didn't seem to be a very impressive
> vehicle.
>
> Then we looked at the Liberty and knew it was exactly what we wanted.
>
> I hope Jeep continues to build the Rubicon and it's successors for
> many years to come but I hope they also continue the Liberty and Grand
> Cherokee. You young folk will need them someday when you too get too
> old and sore to drive the Rubicons.
>
> Bill Tolle "I used to make fun of old folks but now I are one :-)"
10-27-2003, 09:03 PM
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Re: Jeep brand to become "less rugged" according to chrysler
Bill, meet Bill... LOL
--
Jim
"Bill Tolle" <BillTolle@SpamCop.net> wrote in message
news:9b77986d.0310271732.35875d67@posting.google.c om...
> ------------<SNIPPED>---------------
> > >Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> > >Rated'
> >
> > Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are
saying
> > they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
> ------------<SNIPPED>---------------
>
> Profitability always has to enter into any business and DC has to stay
> profitable in order to stay in business.
>
> I see a lot of remarks about the Liberty not being a "real" Jeep. None
> of the real Jeeps I rode in while in the Army had air conditioning but
> I noticed that a Rubicon I looked at did have A/C so does that mean
> the Rubicon is not a "real" Jeep? I don't think so, it just
> acknowledges the reality of the marketplace and there is not much room
> in the market for any vehicle that does not offer A/C.
>
> I am the proud owner of a 2004 Liberty Sport and am very happy that
> Jeep decided to build a vehicle that fits my needs. I agree it is not
> a "rock crawler", but I don't want a "rock crawler". Those of you who
> are still young wait until you get to be 58 and have a bad back, those
> "rock crawlers" will be a lot less appealing to you then.
>
> I enjoy seeing the really tough Jeeps when we go to Moab. We drive
> many of the less demanding trails (did I mention that my wife has
> arthritis in her neck and can't stand the beating a "real" Jeep would
> give her) and thoroughly enjoy ourselves.
>
> For the past few years I drove a Nissan 4 X 4 King Cab pickup so we
> could go off road. When we decided to get something new we looked at
> the X-Terra first and it just didn't seem to be a very impressive
> vehicle.
>
> Then we looked at the Liberty and knew it was exactly what we wanted.
>
> I hope Jeep continues to build the Rubicon and it's successors for
> many years to come but I hope they also continue the Liberty and Grand
> Cherokee. You young folk will need them someday when you too get too
> old and sore to drive the Rubicons.
>
> Bill Tolle "I used to make fun of old folks but now I are one :-)"
--
Jim
"Bill Tolle" <BillTolle@SpamCop.net> wrote in message
news:9b77986d.0310271732.35875d67@posting.google.c om...
> ------------<SNIPPED>---------------
> > >Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> > >Rated'
> >
> > Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are
saying
> > they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
> ------------<SNIPPED>---------------
>
> Profitability always has to enter into any business and DC has to stay
> profitable in order to stay in business.
>
> I see a lot of remarks about the Liberty not being a "real" Jeep. None
> of the real Jeeps I rode in while in the Army had air conditioning but
> I noticed that a Rubicon I looked at did have A/C so does that mean
> the Rubicon is not a "real" Jeep? I don't think so, it just
> acknowledges the reality of the marketplace and there is not much room
> in the market for any vehicle that does not offer A/C.
>
> I am the proud owner of a 2004 Liberty Sport and am very happy that
> Jeep decided to build a vehicle that fits my needs. I agree it is not
> a "rock crawler", but I don't want a "rock crawler". Those of you who
> are still young wait until you get to be 58 and have a bad back, those
> "rock crawlers" will be a lot less appealing to you then.
>
> I enjoy seeing the really tough Jeeps when we go to Moab. We drive
> many of the less demanding trails (did I mention that my wife has
> arthritis in her neck and can't stand the beating a "real" Jeep would
> give her) and thoroughly enjoy ourselves.
>
> For the past few years I drove a Nissan 4 X 4 King Cab pickup so we
> could go off road. When we decided to get something new we looked at
> the X-Terra first and it just didn't seem to be a very impressive
> vehicle.
>
> Then we looked at the Liberty and knew it was exactly what we wanted.
>
> I hope Jeep continues to build the Rubicon and it's successors for
> many years to come but I hope they also continue the Liberty and Grand
> Cherokee. You young folk will need them someday when you too get too
> old and sore to drive the Rubicons.
>
> Bill Tolle "I used to make fun of old folks but now I are one :-)"
10-27-2003, 09:03 PM
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Re: Jeep brand to become "less rugged" according to chrysler
Bill, meet Bill... LOL
--
Jim
"Bill Tolle" <BillTolle@SpamCop.net> wrote in message
news:9b77986d.0310271732.35875d67@posting.google.c om...
> ------------<SNIPPED>---------------
> > >Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> > >Rated'
> >
> > Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are
saying
> > they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
> ------------<SNIPPED>---------------
>
> Profitability always has to enter into any business and DC has to stay
> profitable in order to stay in business.
>
> I see a lot of remarks about the Liberty not being a "real" Jeep. None
> of the real Jeeps I rode in while in the Army had air conditioning but
> I noticed that a Rubicon I looked at did have A/C so does that mean
> the Rubicon is not a "real" Jeep? I don't think so, it just
> acknowledges the reality of the marketplace and there is not much room
> in the market for any vehicle that does not offer A/C.
>
> I am the proud owner of a 2004 Liberty Sport and am very happy that
> Jeep decided to build a vehicle that fits my needs. I agree it is not
> a "rock crawler", but I don't want a "rock crawler". Those of you who
> are still young wait until you get to be 58 and have a bad back, those
> "rock crawlers" will be a lot less appealing to you then.
>
> I enjoy seeing the really tough Jeeps when we go to Moab. We drive
> many of the less demanding trails (did I mention that my wife has
> arthritis in her neck and can't stand the beating a "real" Jeep would
> give her) and thoroughly enjoy ourselves.
>
> For the past few years I drove a Nissan 4 X 4 King Cab pickup so we
> could go off road. When we decided to get something new we looked at
> the X-Terra first and it just didn't seem to be a very impressive
> vehicle.
>
> Then we looked at the Liberty and knew it was exactly what we wanted.
>
> I hope Jeep continues to build the Rubicon and it's successors for
> many years to come but I hope they also continue the Liberty and Grand
> Cherokee. You young folk will need them someday when you too get too
> old and sore to drive the Rubicons.
>
> Bill Tolle "I used to make fun of old folks but now I are one :-)"
--
Jim
"Bill Tolle" <BillTolle@SpamCop.net> wrote in message
news:9b77986d.0310271732.35875d67@posting.google.c om...
> ------------<SNIPPED>---------------
> > >Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
> > >Rated'
> >
> > Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are
saying
> > they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
> ------------<SNIPPED>---------------
>
> Profitability always has to enter into any business and DC has to stay
> profitable in order to stay in business.
>
> I see a lot of remarks about the Liberty not being a "real" Jeep. None
> of the real Jeeps I rode in while in the Army had air conditioning but
> I noticed that a Rubicon I looked at did have A/C so does that mean
> the Rubicon is not a "real" Jeep? I don't think so, it just
> acknowledges the reality of the marketplace and there is not much room
> in the market for any vehicle that does not offer A/C.
>
> I am the proud owner of a 2004 Liberty Sport and am very happy that
> Jeep decided to build a vehicle that fits my needs. I agree it is not
> a "rock crawler", but I don't want a "rock crawler". Those of you who
> are still young wait until you get to be 58 and have a bad back, those
> "rock crawlers" will be a lot less appealing to you then.
>
> I enjoy seeing the really tough Jeeps when we go to Moab. We drive
> many of the less demanding trails (did I mention that my wife has
> arthritis in her neck and can't stand the beating a "real" Jeep would
> give her) and thoroughly enjoy ourselves.
>
> For the past few years I drove a Nissan 4 X 4 King Cab pickup so we
> could go off road. When we decided to get something new we looked at
> the X-Terra first and it just didn't seem to be a very impressive
> vehicle.
>
> Then we looked at the Liberty and knew it was exactly what we wanted.
>
> I hope Jeep continues to build the Rubicon and it's successors for
> many years to come but I hope they also continue the Liberty and Grand
> Cherokee. You young folk will need them someday when you too get too
> old and sore to drive the Rubicons.
>
> Bill Tolle "I used to make fun of old folks but now I are one :-)"
10-27-2003, 09:43 PM
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Re: Jeep brand to become "less rugged" according to chrysler
On 27 Oct 2003 20:00:27 GMT, mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt Macchiarolo) wrote:
>>In article <b102b6e4.0310271147.63e5e07a@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
>>(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>>
>>>
>>>Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
>>>Rated'
>>
>>Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are saying
>>they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
Now, now, the Libby can be a serious off road machine...all you have to do is cut
everything off at the frame and then replace the lower 1/2 of the vehicle. LOL.
>>In article <b102b6e4.0310271147.63e5e07a@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
>>(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>>
>>>
>>>Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
>>>Rated'
>>
>>Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are saying
>>they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
Now, now, the Libby can be a serious off road machine...all you have to do is cut
everything off at the frame and then replace the lower 1/2 of the vehicle. LOL.
10-27-2003, 09:43 PM
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Re: Jeep brand to become "less rugged" according to chrysler
On 27 Oct 2003 20:00:27 GMT, mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt Macchiarolo) wrote:
>>In article <b102b6e4.0310271147.63e5e07a@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
>>(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>>
>>>
>>>Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
>>>Rated'
>>
>>Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are saying
>>they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
Now, now, the Libby can be a serious off road machine...all you have to do is cut
everything off at the frame and then replace the lower 1/2 of the vehicle. LOL.
>>In article <b102b6e4.0310271147.63e5e07a@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
>>(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>>
>>>
>>>Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
>>>Rated'
>>
>>Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are saying
>>they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
Now, now, the Libby can be a serious off road machine...all you have to do is cut
everything off at the frame and then replace the lower 1/2 of the vehicle. LOL.
10-27-2003, 09:43 PM
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Re: Jeep brand to become "less rugged" according to chrysler
On 27 Oct 2003 20:00:27 GMT, mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt Macchiarolo) wrote:
>>In article <b102b6e4.0310271147.63e5e07a@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
>>(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>>
>>>
>>>Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
>>>Rated'
>>
>>Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are saying
>>they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
Now, now, the Libby can be a serious off road machine...all you have to do is cut
everything off at the frame and then replace the lower 1/2 of the vehicle. LOL.
>>In article <b102b6e4.0310271147.63e5e07a@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
>>(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>>
>>>
>>>Jeep planning less-rugged models; 2004 4x4s to be badged 'Trail
>>>Rated'
>>
>>Anyone who's seen the Liberty already knows this. At least they are saying
>>they're keeping "serious" off-road vehicles in the lineup.
Now, now, the Libby can be a serious off road machine...all you have to do is cut
everything off at the frame and then replace the lower 1/2 of the vehicle. LOL.
10-27-2003, 10:31 PM
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Re: Jeep brand to become "less rugged" according to chrysler
In article <9b77986d.0310271732.35875d67@posting.google.com >,
BillTolle@SpamCop.net (Bill Tolle) writes:
>Profitability always has to enter into any business and DC has to stay
>profitable in order to stay in business.
>
>I see a lot of remarks about the Liberty not being a "real" Jeep.
<snippage>
Take it easy, old timer. :-) If you know my posting history you will see that I
am in complete agreement with you. Of course DC has to stay competitive so they
have to introduce a more road-comfortable vehicle. I'm actually glad you take
your Liberty off-road, while not as capable as a Wrangler due mainly to its IFS
it is probably more capable than many believe. Most of the disdain held against
the Liberty is that it replaced the XJ Cherokee which is generally agreed to
have more off-road capability than the Liberty.
My point was twofold...(1) that the "trail rated" advertising program DC is
coming up with is just a marketing gimmick if it infers the Liberty is equal to
a Wrangler in overall trail worthiness, and (2) they confirmed that "serious"
off-road vehicles will remain in the lineup, presumably the TJ and the
forthcoming Scrambler, though rumor has it that IFS is destined for the Grand
Cherokee.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
BillTolle@SpamCop.net (Bill Tolle) writes:
>Profitability always has to enter into any business and DC has to stay
>profitable in order to stay in business.
>
>I see a lot of remarks about the Liberty not being a "real" Jeep.
<snippage>
Take it easy, old timer. :-) If you know my posting history you will see that I
am in complete agreement with you. Of course DC has to stay competitive so they
have to introduce a more road-comfortable vehicle. I'm actually glad you take
your Liberty off-road, while not as capable as a Wrangler due mainly to its IFS
it is probably more capable than many believe. Most of the disdain held against
the Liberty is that it replaced the XJ Cherokee which is generally agreed to
have more off-road capability than the Liberty.
My point was twofold...(1) that the "trail rated" advertising program DC is
coming up with is just a marketing gimmick if it infers the Liberty is equal to
a Wrangler in overall trail worthiness, and (2) they confirmed that "serious"
off-road vehicles will remain in the lineup, presumably the TJ and the
forthcoming Scrambler, though rumor has it that IFS is destined for the Grand
Cherokee.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html