Jeep Booby Traps Help
#31
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Re: Jeep Booby Traps Help
I'm not a lawyer, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find a case where
someone was shot and killed, not threatening bodily harm and committing
a theft, for instance, during the daytime and the shooter wasn't charged.
I do know that there is much more leniency in regard to deadly force for
the victim, if the crime is committed at night.
Jeepers wrote:
> Chapter 9 of the Texas Penal code. Look it up for yourself.
>
>
> The use of deadly force is justified when you believe that deadly force
> is immediately necessary to prevent the imminent commission of arson,
> burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the night or
> criminal mischief during the night.
>
> The use of deadly force is justified when you believe that deadly force
> is immediately necessary to prevent a person fleeing after committing
> burglary, robbery, or aggravated robbery.
>
> The use of deadly force is justified when you believe that deadly force
> is immediately necessary to prevent a person from fleeing with the
> property after committing theft during the night and you also believe
> that the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other
> means.
>
> The use of deadly force is justified when use of force other than force
> would expose you to death or serious bodily injury.
>
> Use of Deadly Force in Defense of a Third Person's Property
>
> The use of deadly force is justified in defense of a third person's
> property if you believe that the owner of the property requested the
> protection, you have a legal duty to protect the property or you are
> protecting the property of your spouse, parent or child under your
> supervision.
>
> The use of deadly force is NOT justified in defense of a third person's
> property if you would not be justified in using deadly force to protect
> your own property under the same circumstances.
>
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someone was shot and killed, not threatening bodily harm and committing
a theft, for instance, during the daytime and the shooter wasn't charged.
I do know that there is much more leniency in regard to deadly force for
the victim, if the crime is committed at night.
Jeepers wrote:
> Chapter 9 of the Texas Penal code. Look it up for yourself.
>
>
> The use of deadly force is justified when you believe that deadly force
> is immediately necessary to prevent the imminent commission of arson,
> burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the night or
> criminal mischief during the night.
>
> The use of deadly force is justified when you believe that deadly force
> is immediately necessary to prevent a person fleeing after committing
> burglary, robbery, or aggravated robbery.
>
> The use of deadly force is justified when you believe that deadly force
> is immediately necessary to prevent a person from fleeing with the
> property after committing theft during the night and you also believe
> that the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other
> means.
>
> The use of deadly force is justified when use of force other than force
> would expose you to death or serious bodily injury.
>
> Use of Deadly Force in Defense of a Third Person's Property
>
> The use of deadly force is justified in defense of a third person's
> property if you believe that the owner of the property requested the
> protection, you have a legal duty to protect the property or you are
> protecting the property of your spouse, parent or child under your
> supervision.
>
> The use of deadly force is NOT justified in defense of a third person's
> property if you would not be justified in using deadly force to protect
> your own property under the same circumstances.
>
>
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Re: Jeep Booby Traps Help
I can almost understand if someone is stealing to feed their family (milk,
bread, etc). But you can't feed jeep parts to your son. That guy should be
shot in the back.
My 2 cents.
> > Maybe at night, I don't think you can shoot someone for stealing the
> > milk bottle off your front porch in broad daylight and running away.
>
> Exactly. Night is the key.
>
> Booby traps are just plain stoopid, unless it is the sort that sets off
> a hidden video camera or alarm.
bread, etc). But you can't feed jeep parts to your son. That guy should be
shot in the back.
My 2 cents.
> > Maybe at night, I don't think you can shoot someone for stealing the
> > milk bottle off your front porch in broad daylight and running away.
>
> Exactly. Night is the key.
>
> Booby traps are just plain stoopid, unless it is the sort that sets off
> a hidden video camera or alarm.
#33
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Re: Jeep Booby Traps Help
I can almost understand if someone is stealing to feed their family (milk,
bread, etc). But you can't feed jeep parts to your son. That guy should be
shot in the back.
My 2 cents.
> > Maybe at night, I don't think you can shoot someone for stealing the
> > milk bottle off your front porch in broad daylight and running away.
>
> Exactly. Night is the key.
>
> Booby traps are just plain stoopid, unless it is the sort that sets off
> a hidden video camera or alarm.
bread, etc). But you can't feed jeep parts to your son. That guy should be
shot in the back.
My 2 cents.
> > Maybe at night, I don't think you can shoot someone for stealing the
> > milk bottle off your front porch in broad daylight and running away.
>
> Exactly. Night is the key.
>
> Booby traps are just plain stoopid, unless it is the sort that sets off
> a hidden video camera or alarm.
#34
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Re: Jeep Booby Traps Help
In article <1kv2b.34498$la.467682@news1.calgary.shaw.ca>,
"JeepTJ" <jeeptj@shaw.caNOSPAM> wrote:
> I can almost understand if someone is stealing to feed their family (milk,
> bread, etc). But you can't feed jeep parts to your son. That guy should be
> shot in the back.
>
> My 2 cents.
Your 2 cents equals murder.
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"JeepTJ" <jeeptj@shaw.caNOSPAM> wrote:
> I can almost understand if someone is stealing to feed their family (milk,
> bread, etc). But you can't feed jeep parts to your son. That guy should be
> shot in the back.
>
> My 2 cents.
Your 2 cents equals murder.
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Re: Jeep Booby Traps Help
In article <1kv2b.34498$la.467682@news1.calgary.shaw.ca>,
"JeepTJ" <jeeptj@shaw.caNOSPAM> wrote:
> I can almost understand if someone is stealing to feed their family (milk,
> bread, etc). But you can't feed jeep parts to your son. That guy should be
> shot in the back.
>
> My 2 cents.
Your 2 cents equals murder.
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"JeepTJ" <jeeptj@shaw.caNOSPAM> wrote:
> I can almost understand if someone is stealing to feed their family (milk,
> bread, etc). But you can't feed jeep parts to your son. That guy should be
> shot in the back.
>
> My 2 cents.
Your 2 cents equals murder.
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#36
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Re: Jeep Booby Traps Help
sure it's murder, but its easy to avoid .. don't steal other people's jeeps.
I think that's the real point - society focuses on the penalty without
focusing enough on how easy it is to avoid the penalty. And if you shoot the
postman who was not about to steal the jeep but just standing next to it
admiring it, then you should get shot in the back.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
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news:moomesa-6CBA4D.16400325082003@corp.newsfeeds.com...
: In article <1kv2b.34498$la.467682@news1.calgary.shaw.ca>,
: "JeepTJ" <jeeptj@shaw.caNOSPAM> wrote:
:
: > I can almost understand if someone is stealing to feed their family
(milk,
: > bread, etc). But you can't feed jeep parts to your son. That guy
should be
: > shot in the back.
: >
: > My 2 cents.
:
: Your 2 cents equals murder.
:
:
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I think that's the real point - society focuses on the penalty without
focusing enough on how easy it is to avoid the penalty. And if you shoot the
postman who was not about to steal the jeep but just standing next to it
admiring it, then you should get shot in the back.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
news:moomesa-6CBA4D.16400325082003@corp.newsfeeds.com...
: In article <1kv2b.34498$la.467682@news1.calgary.shaw.ca>,
: "JeepTJ" <jeeptj@shaw.caNOSPAM> wrote:
:
: > I can almost understand if someone is stealing to feed their family
(milk,
: > bread, etc). But you can't feed jeep parts to your son. That guy
should be
: > shot in the back.
: >
: > My 2 cents.
:
: Your 2 cents equals murder.
:
:
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#37
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Re: Jeep Booby Traps Help
sure it's murder, but its easy to avoid .. don't steal other people's jeeps.
I think that's the real point - society focuses on the penalty without
focusing enough on how easy it is to avoid the penalty. And if you shoot the
postman who was not about to steal the jeep but just standing next to it
admiring it, then you should get shot in the back.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
news:moomesa-6CBA4D.16400325082003@corp.newsfeeds.com...
: In article <1kv2b.34498$la.467682@news1.calgary.shaw.ca>,
: "JeepTJ" <jeeptj@shaw.caNOSPAM> wrote:
:
: > I can almost understand if someone is stealing to feed their family
(milk,
: > bread, etc). But you can't feed jeep parts to your son. That guy
should be
: > shot in the back.
: >
: > My 2 cents.
:
: Your 2 cents equals murder.
:
:
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I think that's the real point - society focuses on the penalty without
focusing enough on how easy it is to avoid the penalty. And if you shoot the
postman who was not about to steal the jeep but just standing next to it
admiring it, then you should get shot in the back.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
news:moomesa-6CBA4D.16400325082003@corp.newsfeeds.com...
: In article <1kv2b.34498$la.467682@news1.calgary.shaw.ca>,
: "JeepTJ" <jeeptj@shaw.caNOSPAM> wrote:
:
: > I can almost understand if someone is stealing to feed their family
(milk,
: > bread, etc). But you can't feed jeep parts to your son. That guy
should be
: > shot in the back.
: >
: > My 2 cents.
:
: Your 2 cents equals murder.
:
:
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#38
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Re: Jeep Booby Traps Help
I agree those two thefts would be for different reasons, but I don't
want to be the one pulling the trigger if there is no physical threat.
JeepTJ wrote:
> I can almost understand if someone is stealing to feed their family (milk,
> bread, etc). But you can't feed jeep parts to your son. That guy should be
> shot in the back.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>>>Maybe at night, I don't think you can shoot someone for stealing the
>>>milk bottle off your front porch in broad daylight and running away.
>>
>>Exactly. Night is the key.
>>
>>Booby traps are just plain stoopid, unless it is the sort that sets off
>>a hidden video camera or alarm.
>
>
>
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want to be the one pulling the trigger if there is no physical threat.
JeepTJ wrote:
> I can almost understand if someone is stealing to feed their family (milk,
> bread, etc). But you can't feed jeep parts to your son. That guy should be
> shot in the back.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>>>Maybe at night, I don't think you can shoot someone for stealing the
>>>milk bottle off your front porch in broad daylight and running away.
>>
>>Exactly. Night is the key.
>>
>>Booby traps are just plain stoopid, unless it is the sort that sets off
>>a hidden video camera or alarm.
>
>
>
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I agree those two thefts would be for different reasons, but I don't
want to be the one pulling the trigger if there is no physical threat.
JeepTJ wrote:
> I can almost understand if someone is stealing to feed their family (milk,
> bread, etc). But you can't feed jeep parts to your son. That guy should be
> shot in the back.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>>>Maybe at night, I don't think you can shoot someone for stealing the
>>>milk bottle off your front porch in broad daylight and running away.
>>
>>Exactly. Night is the key.
>>
>>Booby traps are just plain stoopid, unless it is the sort that sets off
>>a hidden video camera or alarm.
>
>
>
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want to be the one pulling the trigger if there is no physical threat.
JeepTJ wrote:
> I can almost understand if someone is stealing to feed their family (milk,
> bread, etc). But you can't feed jeep parts to your son. That guy should be
> shot in the back.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
>>>Maybe at night, I don't think you can shoot someone for stealing the
>>>milk bottle off your front porch in broad daylight and running away.
>>
>>Exactly. Night is the key.
>>
>>Booby traps are just plain stoopid, unless it is the sort that sets off
>>a hidden video camera or alarm.
>
>
>
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Re: Jeep Booby Traps Help
In article <wrv2b.4361$IA.41282784@news-text.cableinet.net>,
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> sure it's murder, but its easy to avoid .. don't steal other people's jeeps.
> I think that's the real point - society focuses on the penalty without
> focusing enough on how easy it is to avoid the penalty. And if you shoot the
> postman who was not about to steal the jeep but just standing next to it
> admiring it, then you should get shot in the back.
I'll give you that.
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"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> sure it's murder, but its easy to avoid .. don't steal other people's jeeps.
> I think that's the real point - society focuses on the penalty without
> focusing enough on how easy it is to avoid the penalty. And if you shoot the
> postman who was not about to steal the jeep but just standing next to it
> admiring it, then you should get shot in the back.
I'll give you that.
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