Jeep Booby Traps Help
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In article <PBK2b.91$1h2.77@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>,
twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
> We are saying the same thing here. IF there is risk of harm, deadly
> force is permitted in Texas. Also, if the crime occurs at night.
>
> Someone had posted that there were states that allow the use of deadly
> force WITHOUT risk of bodily injury. I asked which states that would be
> and several people responded with Texas.
>
> I still contend that if you shoot and kill someone that is stealing from
> your property, in daylight, in Texas, WITHOUT risk of bodily injury, you
> will be prosecuted.
Perhaps. But even in daylight, if one tried to stop a theft, it would be
difficult to not incur the threat of bodily injury.
I'm at home, on my ranch, on a Saturday afternoon. I look out my window,
and two guys are stealing tools/cattle/tractor/truck/Jeep. I want to
keep this stuff. I am going to grab a gun and a cell phone (most likely
my short shotgun & my carry pistol) and I'm going outside to stop them.
I call the sheriff first on the cell and leave the line open.
I appear and ask them to cease and disist.
If they hit the deck and scream "don't shoot". Correct response.
If they run, empty handed. Correct response.
If they run, with goods, I persue, armed.
If they approach me. Wrong response.
If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
vehicle.
If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
The very act of stopping them incurs the risk of bodily injury.
The nighttime scenario simply makes is harder to judge what they might
or might not be doing, enabling leeway in the response.
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twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
> We are saying the same thing here. IF there is risk of harm, deadly
> force is permitted in Texas. Also, if the crime occurs at night.
>
> Someone had posted that there were states that allow the use of deadly
> force WITHOUT risk of bodily injury. I asked which states that would be
> and several people responded with Texas.
>
> I still contend that if you shoot and kill someone that is stealing from
> your property, in daylight, in Texas, WITHOUT risk of bodily injury, you
> will be prosecuted.
Perhaps. But even in daylight, if one tried to stop a theft, it would be
difficult to not incur the threat of bodily injury.
I'm at home, on my ranch, on a Saturday afternoon. I look out my window,
and two guys are stealing tools/cattle/tractor/truck/Jeep. I want to
keep this stuff. I am going to grab a gun and a cell phone (most likely
my short shotgun & my carry pistol) and I'm going outside to stop them.
I call the sheriff first on the cell and leave the line open.
I appear and ask them to cease and disist.
If they hit the deck and scream "don't shoot". Correct response.
If they run, empty handed. Correct response.
If they run, with goods, I persue, armed.
If they approach me. Wrong response.
If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
vehicle.
If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
The very act of stopping them incurs the risk of bodily injury.
The nighttime scenario simply makes is harder to judge what they might
or might not be doing, enabling leeway in the response.
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I agree with you except the last two:
> If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
vehicle.
> If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
If you shoot and kill them in daylight in these scenarios, I believe you
will be prosecuted, even in Texas.
Jeepers wrote:
> In article <PBK2b.91$1h2.77@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>,
> twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>We are saying the same thing here. IF there is risk of harm, deadly
>>force is permitted in Texas. Also, if the crime occurs at night.
>>
>>Someone had posted that there were states that allow the use of deadly
>>force WITHOUT risk of bodily injury. I asked which states that would be
>>and several people responded with Texas.
>>
>>I still contend that if you shoot and kill someone that is stealing from
>>your property, in daylight, in Texas, WITHOUT risk of bodily injury, you
>>will be prosecuted.
>
>
> Perhaps. But even in daylight, if one tried to stop a theft, it would be
> difficult to not incur the threat of bodily injury.
>
> I'm at home, on my ranch, on a Saturday afternoon. I look out my window,
> and two guys are stealing tools/cattle/tractor/truck/Jeep. I want to
> keep this stuff. I am going to grab a gun and a cell phone (most likely
> my short shotgun & my carry pistol) and I'm going outside to stop them.
>
> I call the sheriff first on the cell and leave the line open.
>
> I appear and ask them to cease and disist.
>
> If they hit the deck and scream "don't shoot". Correct response.
>
> If they run, empty handed. Correct response.
>
> If they run, with goods, I persue, armed.
>
> If they approach me. Wrong response.
>
> If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
> vehicle.
>
> If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
>
> The very act of stopping them incurs the risk of bodily injury.
>
> The nighttime scenario simply makes is harder to judge what they might
> or might not be doing, enabling leeway in the response.
>
>
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> If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
vehicle.
> If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
If you shoot and kill them in daylight in these scenarios, I believe you
will be prosecuted, even in Texas.
Jeepers wrote:
> In article <PBK2b.91$1h2.77@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>,
> twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>We are saying the same thing here. IF there is risk of harm, deadly
>>force is permitted in Texas. Also, if the crime occurs at night.
>>
>>Someone had posted that there were states that allow the use of deadly
>>force WITHOUT risk of bodily injury. I asked which states that would be
>>and several people responded with Texas.
>>
>>I still contend that if you shoot and kill someone that is stealing from
>>your property, in daylight, in Texas, WITHOUT risk of bodily injury, you
>>will be prosecuted.
>
>
> Perhaps. But even in daylight, if one tried to stop a theft, it would be
> difficult to not incur the threat of bodily injury.
>
> I'm at home, on my ranch, on a Saturday afternoon. I look out my window,
> and two guys are stealing tools/cattle/tractor/truck/Jeep. I want to
> keep this stuff. I am going to grab a gun and a cell phone (most likely
> my short shotgun & my carry pistol) and I'm going outside to stop them.
>
> I call the sheriff first on the cell and leave the line open.
>
> I appear and ask them to cease and disist.
>
> If they hit the deck and scream "don't shoot". Correct response.
>
> If they run, empty handed. Correct response.
>
> If they run, with goods, I persue, armed.
>
> If they approach me. Wrong response.
>
> If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
> vehicle.
>
> If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
>
> The very act of stopping them incurs the risk of bodily injury.
>
> The nighttime scenario simply makes is harder to judge what they might
> or might not be doing, enabling leeway in the response.
>
>
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I agree with you except the last two:
> If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
vehicle.
> If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
If you shoot and kill them in daylight in these scenarios, I believe you
will be prosecuted, even in Texas.
Jeepers wrote:
> In article <PBK2b.91$1h2.77@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>,
> twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>We are saying the same thing here. IF there is risk of harm, deadly
>>force is permitted in Texas. Also, if the crime occurs at night.
>>
>>Someone had posted that there were states that allow the use of deadly
>>force WITHOUT risk of bodily injury. I asked which states that would be
>>and several people responded with Texas.
>>
>>I still contend that if you shoot and kill someone that is stealing from
>>your property, in daylight, in Texas, WITHOUT risk of bodily injury, you
>>will be prosecuted.
>
>
> Perhaps. But even in daylight, if one tried to stop a theft, it would be
> difficult to not incur the threat of bodily injury.
>
> I'm at home, on my ranch, on a Saturday afternoon. I look out my window,
> and two guys are stealing tools/cattle/tractor/truck/Jeep. I want to
> keep this stuff. I am going to grab a gun and a cell phone (most likely
> my short shotgun & my carry pistol) and I'm going outside to stop them.
>
> I call the sheriff first on the cell and leave the line open.
>
> I appear and ask them to cease and disist.
>
> If they hit the deck and scream "don't shoot". Correct response.
>
> If they run, empty handed. Correct response.
>
> If they run, with goods, I persue, armed.
>
> If they approach me. Wrong response.
>
> If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
> vehicle.
>
> If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
>
> The very act of stopping them incurs the risk of bodily injury.
>
> The nighttime scenario simply makes is harder to judge what they might
> or might not be doing, enabling leeway in the response.
>
>
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> If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
vehicle.
> If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
If you shoot and kill them in daylight in these scenarios, I believe you
will be prosecuted, even in Texas.
Jeepers wrote:
> In article <PBK2b.91$1h2.77@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>,
> twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>We are saying the same thing here. IF there is risk of harm, deadly
>>force is permitted in Texas. Also, if the crime occurs at night.
>>
>>Someone had posted that there were states that allow the use of deadly
>>force WITHOUT risk of bodily injury. I asked which states that would be
>>and several people responded with Texas.
>>
>>I still contend that if you shoot and kill someone that is stealing from
>>your property, in daylight, in Texas, WITHOUT risk of bodily injury, you
>>will be prosecuted.
>
>
> Perhaps. But even in daylight, if one tried to stop a theft, it would be
> difficult to not incur the threat of bodily injury.
>
> I'm at home, on my ranch, on a Saturday afternoon. I look out my window,
> and two guys are stealing tools/cattle/tractor/truck/Jeep. I want to
> keep this stuff. I am going to grab a gun and a cell phone (most likely
> my short shotgun & my carry pistol) and I'm going outside to stop them.
>
> I call the sheriff first on the cell and leave the line open.
>
> I appear and ask them to cease and disist.
>
> If they hit the deck and scream "don't shoot". Correct response.
>
> If they run, empty handed. Correct response.
>
> If they run, with goods, I persue, armed.
>
> If they approach me. Wrong response.
>
> If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
> vehicle.
>
> If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
>
> The very act of stopping them incurs the risk of bodily injury.
>
> The nighttime scenario simply makes is harder to judge what they might
> or might not be doing, enabling leeway in the response.
>
>
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In article <IdL2b.101$1h2.94@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>,
twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
> I agree with you except the last two:
>
> > If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
> vehicle.
> > If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
>
> If you shoot and kill them in daylight in these scenarios, I believe you
> will be prosecuted, even in Texas.
No. The vehicle is regarded as a deadly weapon in Texas.
A running tractor is especially bad, as a house can't protect you from
it.
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twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
> I agree with you except the last two:
>
> > If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
> vehicle.
> > If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
>
> If you shoot and kill them in daylight in these scenarios, I believe you
> will be prosecuted, even in Texas.
No. The vehicle is regarded as a deadly weapon in Texas.
A running tractor is especially bad, as a house can't protect you from
it.
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In article <IdL2b.101$1h2.94@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>,
twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
> I agree with you except the last two:
>
> > If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
> vehicle.
> > If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
>
> If you shoot and kill them in daylight in these scenarios, I believe you
> will be prosecuted, even in Texas.
No. The vehicle is regarded as a deadly weapon in Texas.
A running tractor is especially bad, as a house can't protect you from
it.
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twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
> I agree with you except the last two:
>
> > If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
> vehicle.
> > If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
>
> If you shoot and kill them in daylight in these scenarios, I believe you
> will be prosecuted, even in Texas.
No. The vehicle is regarded as a deadly weapon in Texas.
A running tractor is especially bad, as a house can't protect you from
it.
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Well, yes, if they were attempting to run you over or crash into your
house, but if they were just fleeing, I just can't see it. I still
think you would have to convince a jury that you were being attacked
unless the evidence at the scene showed the cops that you were under attack.
Jeepers wrote:
> In article <IdL2b.101$1h2.94@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>,
> twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I agree with you except the last two:
>>
>> > If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
>>vehicle.
>> > If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
>>
>>If you shoot and kill them in daylight in these scenarios, I believe you
>>will be prosecuted, even in Texas.
>
>
> No. The vehicle is regarded as a deadly weapon in Texas.
>
> A running tractor is especially bad, as a house can't protect you from
> it.
>
>
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house, but if they were just fleeing, I just can't see it. I still
think you would have to convince a jury that you were being attacked
unless the evidence at the scene showed the cops that you were under attack.
Jeepers wrote:
> In article <IdL2b.101$1h2.94@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>,
> twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I agree with you except the last two:
>>
>> > If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
>>vehicle.
>> > If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
>>
>>If you shoot and kill them in daylight in these scenarios, I believe you
>>will be prosecuted, even in Texas.
>
>
> No. The vehicle is regarded as a deadly weapon in Texas.
>
> A running tractor is especially bad, as a house can't protect you from
> it.
>
>
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Well, yes, if they were attempting to run you over or crash into your
house, but if they were just fleeing, I just can't see it. I still
think you would have to convince a jury that you were being attacked
unless the evidence at the scene showed the cops that you were under attack.
Jeepers wrote:
> In article <IdL2b.101$1h2.94@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>,
> twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I agree with you except the last two:
>>
>> > If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
>>vehicle.
>> > If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
>>
>>If you shoot and kill them in daylight in these scenarios, I believe you
>>will be prosecuted, even in Texas.
>
>
> No. The vehicle is regarded as a deadly weapon in Texas.
>
> A running tractor is especially bad, as a house can't protect you from
> it.
>
>
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tw
03 TJ Rubicon
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There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
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house, but if they were just fleeing, I just can't see it. I still
think you would have to convince a jury that you were being attacked
unless the evidence at the scene showed the cops that you were under attack.
Jeepers wrote:
> In article <IdL2b.101$1h2.94@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>,
> twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I agree with you except the last two:
>>
>> > If they continue loading cattle. Wrong response if they enter the
>>vehicle.
>> > If they start the tractor's engine. Wrong response.
>>
>>If you shoot and kill them in daylight in these scenarios, I believe you
>>will be prosecuted, even in Texas.
>
>
> No. The vehicle is regarded as a deadly weapon in Texas.
>
> A running tractor is especially bad, as a house can't protect you from
> it.
>
>
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As much as I agree with your original reaction- (I would've been out
there with the Sig P220 and Mossberg...) It's too late. They got
what they wanted and probably won't be back. Remember- you should not
even bother locking a soft top Jeep and NEVER leave anything in it
that you care about.
kevin <kevin@el.net> wrote in message news:<JVp2b.254585$o%2.116759@sccrnsc02>...
> Anyone got any good ideas for booby traps around my jeep. Some thugs
> tried to rip it off the other night. They could not steal it because I
> have the grant removeable steering wheel. They cut the top and ruined
> it, took the side windows, a simpson 5 point harness, they got the upper
> doors, and had the drivers side door lifted half way off of the hinges.
> They also got seat cover for the bucket seat, and my air compressor. My
> 105 lb lab who lives in the house heard them and started raising hell
> when i let her out in the back yard. They must have been scared off when
> they heard her. I got my 12 gauge pump ( loaded with # 1 buck), and 45
> Glock and went out but saw no one. Looking for ideas for trip wire traps
> using mouse traps,clothes pins ets, to trip an audio alarm, 12 gauge
> shell , or whatever it takes.
there with the Sig P220 and Mossberg...) It's too late. They got
what they wanted and probably won't be back. Remember- you should not
even bother locking a soft top Jeep and NEVER leave anything in it
that you care about.
kevin <kevin@el.net> wrote in message news:<JVp2b.254585$o%2.116759@sccrnsc02>...
> Anyone got any good ideas for booby traps around my jeep. Some thugs
> tried to rip it off the other night. They could not steal it because I
> have the grant removeable steering wheel. They cut the top and ruined
> it, took the side windows, a simpson 5 point harness, they got the upper
> doors, and had the drivers side door lifted half way off of the hinges.
> They also got seat cover for the bucket seat, and my air compressor. My
> 105 lb lab who lives in the house heard them and started raising hell
> when i let her out in the back yard. They must have been scared off when
> they heard her. I got my 12 gauge pump ( loaded with # 1 buck), and 45
> Glock and went out but saw no one. Looking for ideas for trip wire traps
> using mouse traps,clothes pins ets, to trip an audio alarm, 12 gauge
> shell , or whatever it takes.
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As much as I agree with your original reaction- (I would've been out
there with the Sig P220 and Mossberg...) It's too late. They got
what they wanted and probably won't be back. Remember- you should not
even bother locking a soft top Jeep and NEVER leave anything in it
that you care about.
kevin <kevin@el.net> wrote in message news:<JVp2b.254585$o%2.116759@sccrnsc02>...
> Anyone got any good ideas for booby traps around my jeep. Some thugs
> tried to rip it off the other night. They could not steal it because I
> have the grant removeable steering wheel. They cut the top and ruined
> it, took the side windows, a simpson 5 point harness, they got the upper
> doors, and had the drivers side door lifted half way off of the hinges.
> They also got seat cover for the bucket seat, and my air compressor. My
> 105 lb lab who lives in the house heard them and started raising hell
> when i let her out in the back yard. They must have been scared off when
> they heard her. I got my 12 gauge pump ( loaded with # 1 buck), and 45
> Glock and went out but saw no one. Looking for ideas for trip wire traps
> using mouse traps,clothes pins ets, to trip an audio alarm, 12 gauge
> shell , or whatever it takes.
there with the Sig P220 and Mossberg...) It's too late. They got
what they wanted and probably won't be back. Remember- you should not
even bother locking a soft top Jeep and NEVER leave anything in it
that you care about.
kevin <kevin@el.net> wrote in message news:<JVp2b.254585$o%2.116759@sccrnsc02>...
> Anyone got any good ideas for booby traps around my jeep. Some thugs
> tried to rip it off the other night. They could not steal it because I
> have the grant removeable steering wheel. They cut the top and ruined
> it, took the side windows, a simpson 5 point harness, they got the upper
> doors, and had the drivers side door lifted half way off of the hinges.
> They also got seat cover for the bucket seat, and my air compressor. My
> 105 lb lab who lives in the house heard them and started raising hell
> when i let her out in the back yard. They must have been scared off when
> they heard her. I got my 12 gauge pump ( loaded with # 1 buck), and 45
> Glock and went out but saw no one. Looking for ideas for trip wire traps
> using mouse traps,clothes pins ets, to trip an audio alarm, 12 gauge
> shell , or whatever it takes.
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In article <PsL2b.109$1h2.83@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>,
twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
> Well, yes, if they were attempting to run you over or crash into your
> house, but if they were just fleeing, I just can't see it. I still
> think you would have to convince a jury that you were being attacked
> unless the evidence at the scene showed the cops that you were under attack.
They can't flee if I'm standing in their escape path.
This kind of thing is reported on all the time. The last time I heard on
was in the San Antonio paper. No charges. Do a google.
Especially If the shooter was a CHL holder. Of course it's up to the LEO
onscene to determine what happened.
The scenarios are innumerable and never happen as expected.
The bottom line is telling the LEO "I was in fear of my life".
If the burgler is face down with holes in his back (and bigger ones in
front) and empty handed, you are up the creek.
The CHL instructor told us to keep pulling the trigger until the fear
has left our bodies.
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twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote:
> Well, yes, if they were attempting to run you over or crash into your
> house, but if they were just fleeing, I just can't see it. I still
> think you would have to convince a jury that you were being attacked
> unless the evidence at the scene showed the cops that you were under attack.
They can't flee if I'm standing in their escape path.
This kind of thing is reported on all the time. The last time I heard on
was in the San Antonio paper. No charges. Do a google.
Especially If the shooter was a CHL holder. Of course it's up to the LEO
onscene to determine what happened.
The scenarios are innumerable and never happen as expected.
The bottom line is telling the LEO "I was in fear of my life".
If the burgler is face down with holes in his back (and bigger ones in
front) and empty handed, you are up the creek.
The CHL instructor told us to keep pulling the trigger until the fear
has left our bodies.
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