I've got gas
09-28-2005, 02:05 PM
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Re: I've got gas
It would have to be an improvement on what I see now... <sigh>
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"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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> Billy, be careful, you might wake up one day and see Bill H's image in the
> mirror!
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> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
>>
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>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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>> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>>> Real Jeeps run straight 30-weight in the summer and straight 10-weight
>>>> in
>>>> the winter.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They must be the old Wagoneers. They're the only Jeep product I can
>>> even imagine someone putting a 53 Series "Screaming Jimmy"in, and
>>> that's about the only engine anyone with any sense uses straight weight
>>> oil in anymore. Other than air cooled engines using Aeroshell I guess.
>>>
>>
>>
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"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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> Billy, be careful, you might wake up one day and see Bill H's image in the
> mirror!
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:43609$433a2c89$d8449845$31513@FUSE.NET...
>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1127884590.101457.241290@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>>
>>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>>> Real Jeeps run straight 30-weight in the summer and straight 10-weight
>>>> in
>>>> the winter.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They must be the old Wagoneers. They're the only Jeep product I can
>>> even imagine someone putting a 53 Series "Screaming Jimmy"in, and
>>> that's about the only engine anyone with any sense uses straight weight
>>> oil in anymore. Other than air cooled engines using Aeroshell I guess.
>>>
>>
>>
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09-28-2005, 02:05 PM
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Re: I've got gas
It would have to be an improvement on what I see now... <sigh>
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"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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> Billy, be careful, you might wake up one day and see Bill H's image in the
> mirror!
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:43609$433a2c89$d8449845$31513@FUSE.NET...
>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1127884590.101457.241290@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>>
>>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>>> Real Jeeps run straight 30-weight in the summer and straight 10-weight
>>>> in
>>>> the winter.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They must be the old Wagoneers. They're the only Jeep product I can
>>> even imagine someone putting a 53 Series "Screaming Jimmy"in, and
>>> that's about the only engine anyone with any sense uses straight weight
>>> oil in anymore. Other than air cooled engines using Aeroshell I guess.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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> Billy, be careful, you might wake up one day and see Bill H's image in the
> mirror!
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:43609$433a2c89$d8449845$31513@FUSE.NET...
>> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1127884590.101457.241290@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>>
>>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>>> Real Jeeps run straight 30-weight in the summer and straight 10-weight
>>>> in
>>>> the winter.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They must be the old Wagoneers. They're the only Jeep product I can
>>> even imagine someone putting a 53 Series "Screaming Jimmy"in, and
>>> that's about the only engine anyone with any sense uses straight weight
>>> oil in anymore. Other than air cooled engines using Aeroshell I guess.
>>>
>>
>>
>
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09-28-2005, 02:06 PM
#53
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Re: I've got gas
Billy, be careful, you might wake up one day and see Bill H's image in the
mirror!
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1127884590.101457.241290@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>> Real Jeeps run straight 30-weight in the summer and straight 10-weight
>>> in
>>> the winter.
>>>
>>
>> They must be the old Wagoneers. They're the only Jeep product I can
>> even imagine someone putting a 53 Series "Screaming Jimmy"in, and
>> that's about the only engine anyone with any sense uses straight weight
>> oil in anymore. Other than air cooled engines using Aeroshell I guess.
>>
>
>
mirror!
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1127884590.101457.241290@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>> Real Jeeps run straight 30-weight in the summer and straight 10-weight
>>> in
>>> the winter.
>>>
>>
>> They must be the old Wagoneers. They're the only Jeep product I can
>> even imagine someone putting a 53 Series "Screaming Jimmy"in, and
>> that's about the only engine anyone with any sense uses straight weight
>> oil in anymore. Other than air cooled engines using Aeroshell I guess.
>>
>
>
09-28-2005, 02:06 PM
#54
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Re: I've got gas
Billy, be careful, you might wake up one day and see Bill H's image in the
mirror!
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1127884590.101457.241290@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>> Real Jeeps run straight 30-weight in the summer and straight 10-weight
>>> in
>>> the winter.
>>>
>>
>> They must be the old Wagoneers. They're the only Jeep product I can
>> even imagine someone putting a 53 Series "Screaming Jimmy"in, and
>> that's about the only engine anyone with any sense uses straight weight
>> oil in anymore. Other than air cooled engines using Aeroshell I guess.
>>
>
>
mirror!
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1127884590.101457.241290@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>> Real Jeeps run straight 30-weight in the summer and straight 10-weight
>>> in
>>> the winter.
>>>
>>
>> They must be the old Wagoneers. They're the only Jeep product I can
>> even imagine someone putting a 53 Series "Screaming Jimmy"in, and
>> that's about the only engine anyone with any sense uses straight weight
>> oil in anymore. Other than air cooled engines using Aeroshell I guess.
>>
>
>
09-28-2005, 02:06 PM
#55
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Re: I've got gas
Billy, be careful, you might wake up one day and see Bill H's image in the
mirror!
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:43609$433a2c89$d8449845$31513@FUSE.NET...
> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1127884590.101457.241290@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>> Real Jeeps run straight 30-weight in the summer and straight 10-weight
>>> in
>>> the winter.
>>>
>>
>> They must be the old Wagoneers. They're the only Jeep product I can
>> even imagine someone putting a 53 Series "Screaming Jimmy"in, and
>> that's about the only engine anyone with any sense uses straight weight
>> oil in anymore. Other than air cooled engines using Aeroshell I guess.
>>
>
>
mirror!
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:43609$433a2c89$d8449845$31513@FUSE.NET...
> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1127884590.101457.241290@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>> Real Jeeps run straight 30-weight in the summer and straight 10-weight
>>> in
>>> the winter.
>>>
>>
>> They must be the old Wagoneers. They're the only Jeep product I can
>> even imagine someone putting a 53 Series "Screaming Jimmy"in, and
>> that's about the only engine anyone with any sense uses straight weight
>> oil in anymore. Other than air cooled engines using Aeroshell I guess.
>>
>
>
09-28-2005, 04:08 PM
#56
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Re: I've got gas
I doubt that.
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Billy Ray wrote:
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> It would have to be an improvement on what I see now... <sigh>
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> It would have to be an improvement on what I see now... <sigh>
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
09-28-2005, 04:08 PM
#57
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Re: I've got gas
I doubt that.
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> It would have to be an improvement on what I see now... <sigh>
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> It would have to be an improvement on what I see now... <sigh>
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
09-28-2005, 04:08 PM
#58
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Re: I've got gas
I doubt that.
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> It would have to be an improvement on what I see now... <sigh>
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> It would have to be an improvement on what I see now... <sigh>
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
09-29-2005, 12:29 AM
#59
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Re: I've got gas
Billy Ray wrote:
> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
cylinder liner.
Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
oiling is a common mod on them.
It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
the detergency.
Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.
09-29-2005, 12:29 AM
#60
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Re: I've got gas
Billy Ray wrote:
> Real Jeeps (MBs) ran on straight weight oil.
They did back in the day. I don't think there's any compelling reason
to run straight weight oil today in any old gasoline engine with full
pressure oiling today. Two cycle Detroits run it because multigrade
oils do not migrate past the air intake holes in the bottom of the
cylinder liner.
Unless you were doing a show restoration, you'd want full flow oil
filtering on any of the old Jeep engines. It's certainly possible on
the Continentals. I think it is on the flathead four, because that's
the same engine boaters use as the Atomic Four. Sailboaters who don't
want diesel still swear by them, and I'm pretty sure modern full flow
oiling is a common mod on them.
It isn't the multigrade that is a problem on no-filter engines, it's
the detergency.
Most AD aviation oils are straight weight but I don't think this is
for any compelling reason besides tradition. The AD multigrade oils
work fine in TCM and Lycoming engines. Maybe the radials don't like
them, but then again 60 and even 70 weight is de rigeur for some of
those old monsters-and in 55 gallon barrels.