Inverted Shocks, what is the benefit?
01-13-2004, 10:01 PM
#31
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Re: Inverted Shocks, what is the benefit?
Most modern shock absorbers utilize a twin (dual) tube
construction; in order to work properly the inner of the two tubes
(working chamber) should stay completely filled with oil. The outer
(reserve) tube contains an oil reserve along with air or a pressurized
gas. If the unit is mounted inverted (rod side down), the air or gas in
the outer chamber can enter the inner working chamber, resulting in poor
damping performance. Therefore, twin tube shock absorbers should not be
mounted upside down (or on their side), with the exception of specially
designed units that incorporate a gas cell, or cellular gas material,
designed to keep the gas retained in the outer reserve tube.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill Johnson wrote:
>
> I have a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the Up-Country option, the
> factory shocks are tired and I want to replace them. I noticed they are
> mounted upside down and wondered what the benefit is by doing that?
>
> With my new purchase should I mount the new shocks in the same matter?
> Even if they are not gas shocks? I wanted to go with a hydraulic shock
> hoping to improve the ride and so far I really like the Doetsch DT3000
> series. Will it matter how they mount?
>
> On that note, would there be a better choice in shocks? Thanks!
construction; in order to work properly the inner of the two tubes
(working chamber) should stay completely filled with oil. The outer
(reserve) tube contains an oil reserve along with air or a pressurized
gas. If the unit is mounted inverted (rod side down), the air or gas in
the outer chamber can enter the inner working chamber, resulting in poor
damping performance. Therefore, twin tube shock absorbers should not be
mounted upside down (or on their side), with the exception of specially
designed units that incorporate a gas cell, or cellular gas material,
designed to keep the gas retained in the outer reserve tube.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bill Johnson wrote:
>
> I have a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the Up-Country option, the
> factory shocks are tired and I want to replace them. I noticed they are
> mounted upside down and wondered what the benefit is by doing that?
>
> With my new purchase should I mount the new shocks in the same matter?
> Even if they are not gas shocks? I wanted to go with a hydraulic shock
> hoping to improve the ride and so far I really like the Doetsch DT3000
> series. Will it matter how they mount?
>
> On that note, would there be a better choice in shocks? Thanks!
01-13-2004, 10:02 PM
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Re: Inverted Shocks, what is the benefit?
No wonder there are mad cows!
Udderly ridiculous!
JimG wrote:
> "CRWLR" wrote in message "exposed to utter annialiation."
>
> You crawl over cows, and damage their utters... that's sick!
>
> :-)
>
> JimG
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There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
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World War II.
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Udderly ridiculous!
JimG wrote:
> "CRWLR" wrote in message "exposed to utter annialiation."
>
> You crawl over cows, and damage their utters... that's sick!
>
> :-)
>
> JimG
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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01-13-2004, 10:02 PM
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Re: Inverted Shocks, what is the benefit?
No wonder there are mad cows!
Udderly ridiculous!
JimG wrote:
> "CRWLR" wrote in message "exposed to utter annialiation."
>
> You crawl over cows, and damage their utters... that's sick!
>
> :-)
>
> JimG
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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Udderly ridiculous!
JimG wrote:
> "CRWLR" wrote in message "exposed to utter annialiation."
>
> You crawl over cows, and damage their utters... that's sick!
>
> :-)
>
> JimG
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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01-13-2004, 10:02 PM
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Re: Inverted Shocks, what is the benefit?
No wonder there are mad cows!
Udderly ridiculous!
JimG wrote:
> "CRWLR" wrote in message "exposed to utter annialiation."
>
> You crawl over cows, and damage their utters... that's sick!
>
> :-)
>
> JimG
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
Udderly ridiculous!
JimG wrote:
> "CRWLR" wrote in message "exposed to utter annialiation."
>
> You crawl over cows, and damage their utters... that's sick!
>
> :-)
>
> JimG
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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01-13-2004, 10:12 PM
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Re: Inverted Shocks, what is the benefit?
Yea... what he said!
JimG
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4004B125.3EEA0B09@***.net...
> Most modern shock absorbers utilize a twin (dual) tube
> construction; in order to work properly the inner of the two tubes
> (working chamber) should stay completely filled with oil. The outer
> (reserve) tube contains an oil reserve along with air or a pressurized
> gas. If the unit is mounted inverted (rod side down), the air or gas in
> the outer chamber can enter the inner working chamber, resulting in poor
> damping performance. Therefore, twin tube shock absorbers should not be
> mounted upside down (or on their side), with the exception of specially
> designed units that incorporate a gas cell, or cellular gas material,
> designed to keep the gas retained in the outer reserve tube.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bill Johnson wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the Up-Country option, the
> > factory shocks are tired and I want to replace them. I noticed they are
> > mounted upside down and wondered what the benefit is by doing that?
> >
> > With my new purchase should I mount the new shocks in the same matter?
> > Even if they are not gas shocks? I wanted to go with a hydraulic shock
> > hoping to improve the ride and so far I really like the Doetsch DT3000
> > series. Will it matter how they mount?
> >
> > On that note, would there be a better choice in shocks? Thanks!
JimG
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4004B125.3EEA0B09@***.net...
> Most modern shock absorbers utilize a twin (dual) tube
> construction; in order to work properly the inner of the two tubes
> (working chamber) should stay completely filled with oil. The outer
> (reserve) tube contains an oil reserve along with air or a pressurized
> gas. If the unit is mounted inverted (rod side down), the air or gas in
> the outer chamber can enter the inner working chamber, resulting in poor
> damping performance. Therefore, twin tube shock absorbers should not be
> mounted upside down (or on their side), with the exception of specially
> designed units that incorporate a gas cell, or cellular gas material,
> designed to keep the gas retained in the outer reserve tube.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bill Johnson wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the Up-Country option, the
> > factory shocks are tired and I want to replace them. I noticed they are
> > mounted upside down and wondered what the benefit is by doing that?
> >
> > With my new purchase should I mount the new shocks in the same matter?
> > Even if they are not gas shocks? I wanted to go with a hydraulic shock
> > hoping to improve the ride and so far I really like the Doetsch DT3000
> > series. Will it matter how they mount?
> >
> > On that note, would there be a better choice in shocks? Thanks!
01-13-2004, 10:12 PM
#36
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Re: Inverted Shocks, what is the benefit?
Yea... what he said!
JimG
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4004B125.3EEA0B09@***.net...
> Most modern shock absorbers utilize a twin (dual) tube
> construction; in order to work properly the inner of the two tubes
> (working chamber) should stay completely filled with oil. The outer
> (reserve) tube contains an oil reserve along with air or a pressurized
> gas. If the unit is mounted inverted (rod side down), the air or gas in
> the outer chamber can enter the inner working chamber, resulting in poor
> damping performance. Therefore, twin tube shock absorbers should not be
> mounted upside down (or on their side), with the exception of specially
> designed units that incorporate a gas cell, or cellular gas material,
> designed to keep the gas retained in the outer reserve tube.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bill Johnson wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the Up-Country option, the
> > factory shocks are tired and I want to replace them. I noticed they are
> > mounted upside down and wondered what the benefit is by doing that?
> >
> > With my new purchase should I mount the new shocks in the same matter?
> > Even if they are not gas shocks? I wanted to go with a hydraulic shock
> > hoping to improve the ride and so far I really like the Doetsch DT3000
> > series. Will it matter how they mount?
> >
> > On that note, would there be a better choice in shocks? Thanks!
JimG
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4004B125.3EEA0B09@***.net...
> Most modern shock absorbers utilize a twin (dual) tube
> construction; in order to work properly the inner of the two tubes
> (working chamber) should stay completely filled with oil. The outer
> (reserve) tube contains an oil reserve along with air or a pressurized
> gas. If the unit is mounted inverted (rod side down), the air or gas in
> the outer chamber can enter the inner working chamber, resulting in poor
> damping performance. Therefore, twin tube shock absorbers should not be
> mounted upside down (or on their side), with the exception of specially
> designed units that incorporate a gas cell, or cellular gas material,
> designed to keep the gas retained in the outer reserve tube.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bill Johnson wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the Up-Country option, the
> > factory shocks are tired and I want to replace them. I noticed they are
> > mounted upside down and wondered what the benefit is by doing that?
> >
> > With my new purchase should I mount the new shocks in the same matter?
> > Even if they are not gas shocks? I wanted to go with a hydraulic shock
> > hoping to improve the ride and so far I really like the Doetsch DT3000
> > series. Will it matter how they mount?
> >
> > On that note, would there be a better choice in shocks? Thanks!
01-13-2004, 10:12 PM
#37
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Re: Inverted Shocks, what is the benefit?
Yea... what he said!
JimG
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4004B125.3EEA0B09@***.net...
> Most modern shock absorbers utilize a twin (dual) tube
> construction; in order to work properly the inner of the two tubes
> (working chamber) should stay completely filled with oil. The outer
> (reserve) tube contains an oil reserve along with air or a pressurized
> gas. If the unit is mounted inverted (rod side down), the air or gas in
> the outer chamber can enter the inner working chamber, resulting in poor
> damping performance. Therefore, twin tube shock absorbers should not be
> mounted upside down (or on their side), with the exception of specially
> designed units that incorporate a gas cell, or cellular gas material,
> designed to keep the gas retained in the outer reserve tube.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bill Johnson wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the Up-Country option, the
> > factory shocks are tired and I want to replace them. I noticed they are
> > mounted upside down and wondered what the benefit is by doing that?
> >
> > With my new purchase should I mount the new shocks in the same matter?
> > Even if they are not gas shocks? I wanted to go with a hydraulic shock
> > hoping to improve the ride and so far I really like the Doetsch DT3000
> > series. Will it matter how they mount?
> >
> > On that note, would there be a better choice in shocks? Thanks!
JimG
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4004B125.3EEA0B09@***.net...
> Most modern shock absorbers utilize a twin (dual) tube
> construction; in order to work properly the inner of the two tubes
> (working chamber) should stay completely filled with oil. The outer
> (reserve) tube contains an oil reserve along with air or a pressurized
> gas. If the unit is mounted inverted (rod side down), the air or gas in
> the outer chamber can enter the inner working chamber, resulting in poor
> damping performance. Therefore, twin tube shock absorbers should not be
> mounted upside down (or on their side), with the exception of specially
> designed units that incorporate a gas cell, or cellular gas material,
> designed to keep the gas retained in the outer reserve tube.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bill Johnson wrote:
> >
> > I have a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the Up-Country option, the
> > factory shocks are tired and I want to replace them. I noticed they are
> > mounted upside down and wondered what the benefit is by doing that?
> >
> > With my new purchase should I mount the new shocks in the same matter?
> > Even if they are not gas shocks? I wanted to go with a hydraulic shock
> > hoping to improve the ride and so far I really like the Doetsch DT3000
> > series. Will it matter how they mount?
> >
> > On that note, would there be a better choice in shocks? Thanks!
01-14-2004, 03:41 AM
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Re: Inverted Shocks, what is the benefit?
Not gonna comment on this particular utterance ;o)
Skip
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:0j2Nb.4907$Sf.1870@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> No wonder there are mad cows!
>
> Udderly ridiculous!
>
> JimG wrote:
>
> > "CRWLR" wrote in message "exposed to utter annialiation."
> >
> > You crawl over cows, and damage their utters... that's sick!
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > JimG
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
Skip
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:0j2Nb.4907$Sf.1870@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> No wonder there are mad cows!
>
> Udderly ridiculous!
>
> JimG wrote:
>
> > "CRWLR" wrote in message "exposed to utter annialiation."
> >
> > You crawl over cows, and damage their utters... that's sick!
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > JimG
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
01-14-2004, 03:41 AM
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Re: Inverted Shocks, what is the benefit?
Not gonna comment on this particular utterance ;o)
Skip
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:0j2Nb.4907$Sf.1870@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> No wonder there are mad cows!
>
> Udderly ridiculous!
>
> JimG wrote:
>
> > "CRWLR" wrote in message "exposed to utter annialiation."
> >
> > You crawl over cows, and damage their utters... that's sick!
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > JimG
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
Skip
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:0j2Nb.4907$Sf.1870@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> No wonder there are mad cows!
>
> Udderly ridiculous!
>
> JimG wrote:
>
> > "CRWLR" wrote in message "exposed to utter annialiation."
> >
> > You crawl over cows, and damage their utters... that's sick!
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > JimG
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
01-14-2004, 03:41 AM
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Re: Inverted Shocks, what is the benefit?
Not gonna comment on this particular utterance ;o)
Skip
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:0j2Nb.4907$Sf.1870@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> No wonder there are mad cows!
>
> Udderly ridiculous!
>
> JimG wrote:
>
> > "CRWLR" wrote in message "exposed to utter annialiation."
> >
> > You crawl over cows, and damage their utters... that's sick!
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > JimG
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
Skip
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:0j2Nb.4907$Sf.1870@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> No wonder there are mad cows!
>
> Udderly ridiculous!
>
> JimG wrote:
>
> > "CRWLR" wrote in message "exposed to utter annialiation."
> >
> > You crawl over cows, and damage their utters... that's sick!
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > JimG
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
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