Tomes

Thanks. I will go look for possible pathways tomorrow, we will see. Dark
Green color. I am thinking a shady spot is best.

Anyone know about the cutting/extending the wire thing?
Tomes

"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:1d6da$43c53c37$4831b233$15697@FUSE.NET...
> There are probably access holes available that are blocked by plastic or
> rubber plugs.
>
> The vent area might be adversely affected by heat gain from sunlight in
> addition to the heat gain from the roadbed. What color is the vehicle? My
> WJ, for example, is black and in sunlight the paint surface is often too
hot
> to touch.
>
> Whether you can cut the wire is unknown to me. If it is actually just
wire
> then perhaps you can cut and splice it but that may also affect the
> calibration.
>
> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:5V9xf.7937$M%4.5761@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> >I like this idea too. Might this be affected by engine heat over time -
> > just thinking out loud here... Then, how about getting the wire to
> > there...
> > Tomes
> >
> > "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
> > news:43c4bfa3$0$12597$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >> How about inside the vent, just in front of the winsheild?
> >>
> >> Completely invisible - you wont see it, and it's out of the way.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> >> news:2C0xf.5343$ZA2.3845@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> >> > Hi folks,
> >> > One of the things I got for Christmas in a clock/temperature monitor
> > that
> >> > tells you what the temperature inside the Jeep is and also what
> >> > temperature
> >> > is outside the jeep. It sticks with sticky velcro anywhere you want
to
> >> > stick it - I put mine over the glove box so my daughter has something
> >> > to
> >> > do
> >> > <grin>. My question for the folks is this:
> >> >
> >> > It comes with a lead on a long wire for the outside temp sensor and I
> >> > am
> >> > having an indecisive time coming up with a spot to stick it. The
> >> > literature
> >> > (the deep thought stuff on the packaging) suggests in the door frame,
> > but
> >> > on
> >> > this Jeep the doors are off most of the summer as much as I can get
> >> > away
> >> > with. The idea here is it beeps when freezing to warn for black ice
> >> > possibility. It needs to stay relatively dry and not be affected by
> > motor
> >> > heat. It has maybe 8 feet of wire. Suggestions?
> >> > Thanks folks,
> >> > Tomes
> >> > 02 TJ
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

Rod's news

"Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
news:FR9xf.7934$M%4.723@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> Thanks Billy Ray. 2 things - one is that I don't think the wire is long
> enough and two is that I agree that this is a real good spot since it sees
> the temperature unfettered by the vehicle. So this gets me thinking - can
> I
> extend this wire by cutting it and splicing in an extension? Does that
> muck
> up the calibration? I suppose I would at least need to use the same gauge
> wire.

The GAUGE of the wire isn't terribly critical .................... but the
TYPE of wire is crucial. The 'sensor' itself is a merely a thermistor (i.e.
an electrical interface of two different compounds / metals) ... which
changes electrical properties as temperature changes. One issue, even when
extending the wire leads with the SAME wire type is the splicing. If you
solder, for example, that can very much affect the properties of the
thermistor 'circuit' (cuz you've essentially added another couple of
electrical junctions / interfaces).

..... and if the kit comes with 8' of wire, you should easily be able to
mount the thermistor in the grill and have the thermometer in the vicinity
of the front dash.


Talk to me on this if you please as I am dim on this type of stuff.
> Thanks,
> Tomes
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:53d64$43c49ad4$4831b233$27012@FUSE.NET...
>> Between the inside of the grill and the radiator is where the temperature
>> sensors are generally installed.
>>
>> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
>> news:2C0xf.5343$ZA2.3845@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>> > Hi folks,
>> > One of the things I got for Christmas in a clock/temperature monitor
> that
>> > tells you what the temperature inside the Jeep is and also what
>> > temperature
>> > is outside the jeep. It sticks with sticky velcro anywhere you want to
>> > stick it - I put mine over the glove box so my daughter has something
>> > to
>> > do
>> > <grin>. My question for the folks is this:
>> >
>> > It comes with a lead on a long wire for the outside temp sensor and I
>> > am
>> > having an indecisive time coming up with a spot to stick it. The
>> > literature
>> > (the deep thought stuff on the packaging) suggests in the door frame,
> but
>> > on
>> > this Jeep the doors are off most of the summer as much as I can get
>> > away
>> > with. The idea here is it beeps when freezing to warn for black ice
>> > possibility. It needs to stay relatively dry and not be affected by
> motor
>> > heat. It has maybe 8 feet of wire. Suggestions?
>> > Thanks folks,
>> > Tomes
>> > 02 TJ
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Rod's news

"Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
news:FR9xf.7934$M%4.723@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> Thanks Billy Ray. 2 things - one is that I don't think the wire is long
> enough and two is that I agree that this is a real good spot since it sees
> the temperature unfettered by the vehicle. So this gets me thinking - can
> I
> extend this wire by cutting it and splicing in an extension? Does that
> muck
> up the calibration? I suppose I would at least need to use the same gauge
> wire.

The GAUGE of the wire isn't terribly critical .................... but the
TYPE of wire is crucial. The 'sensor' itself is a merely a thermistor (i.e.
an electrical interface of two different compounds / metals) ... which
changes electrical properties as temperature changes. One issue, even when
extending the wire leads with the SAME wire type is the splicing. If you
solder, for example, that can very much affect the properties of the
thermistor 'circuit' (cuz you've essentially added another couple of
electrical junctions / interfaces).

..... and if the kit comes with 8' of wire, you should easily be able to
mount the thermistor in the grill and have the thermometer in the vicinity
of the front dash.


Talk to me on this if you please as I am dim on this type of stuff.
> Thanks,
> Tomes
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:53d64$43c49ad4$4831b233$27012@FUSE.NET...
>> Between the inside of the grill and the radiator is where the temperature
>> sensors are generally installed.
>>
>> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
>> news:2C0xf.5343$ZA2.3845@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>> > Hi folks,
>> > One of the things I got for Christmas in a clock/temperature monitor
> that
>> > tells you what the temperature inside the Jeep is and also what
>> > temperature
>> > is outside the jeep. It sticks with sticky velcro anywhere you want to
>> > stick it - I put mine over the glove box so my daughter has something
>> > to
>> > do
>> > <grin>. My question for the folks is this:
>> >
>> > It comes with a lead on a long wire for the outside temp sensor and I
>> > am
>> > having an indecisive time coming up with a spot to stick it. The
>> > literature
>> > (the deep thought stuff on the packaging) suggests in the door frame,
> but
>> > on
>> > this Jeep the doors are off most of the summer as much as I can get
>> > away
>> > with. The idea here is it beeps when freezing to warn for black ice
>> > possibility. It needs to stay relatively dry and not be affected by
> motor
>> > heat. It has maybe 8 feet of wire. Suggestions?
>> > Thanks folks,
>> > Tomes
>> > 02 TJ
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Rod's news

"Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
news:FR9xf.7934$M%4.723@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> Thanks Billy Ray. 2 things - one is that I don't think the wire is long
> enough and two is that I agree that this is a real good spot since it sees
> the temperature unfettered by the vehicle. So this gets me thinking - can
> I
> extend this wire by cutting it and splicing in an extension? Does that
> muck
> up the calibration? I suppose I would at least need to use the same gauge
> wire.

The GAUGE of the wire isn't terribly critical .................... but the
TYPE of wire is crucial. The 'sensor' itself is a merely a thermistor (i.e.
an electrical interface of two different compounds / metals) ... which
changes electrical properties as temperature changes. One issue, even when
extending the wire leads with the SAME wire type is the splicing. If you
solder, for example, that can very much affect the properties of the
thermistor 'circuit' (cuz you've essentially added another couple of
electrical junctions / interfaces).

..... and if the kit comes with 8' of wire, you should easily be able to
mount the thermistor in the grill and have the thermometer in the vicinity
of the front dash.


Talk to me on this if you please as I am dim on this type of stuff.
> Thanks,
> Tomes
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:53d64$43c49ad4$4831b233$27012@FUSE.NET...
>> Between the inside of the grill and the radiator is where the temperature
>> sensors are generally installed.
>>
>> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
>> news:2C0xf.5343$ZA2.3845@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>> > Hi folks,
>> > One of the things I got for Christmas in a clock/temperature monitor
> that
>> > tells you what the temperature inside the Jeep is and also what
>> > temperature
>> > is outside the jeep. It sticks with sticky velcro anywhere you want to
>> > stick it - I put mine over the glove box so my daughter has something
>> > to
>> > do
>> > <grin>. My question for the folks is this:
>> >
>> > It comes with a lead on a long wire for the outside temp sensor and I
>> > am
>> > having an indecisive time coming up with a spot to stick it. The
>> > literature
>> > (the deep thought stuff on the packaging) suggests in the door frame,
> but
>> > on
>> > this Jeep the doors are off most of the summer as much as I can get
>> > away
>> > with. The idea here is it beeps when freezing to warn for black ice
>> > possibility. It needs to stay relatively dry and not be affected by
> motor
>> > heat. It has maybe 8 feet of wire. Suggestions?
>> > Thanks folks,
>> > Tomes
>> > 02 TJ
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Jeff Strickland

On my BMW, the probe is mounted in one of the aor ducts that direct cold air
onto the brake rotors.

All you need to do is put it where it won't be affected by the hot exhaust
system. Surely the probe is adequately sealed to deal with water splashing
on it. I'd pick a spot where the rocks won't get it, if there is such a spot
....






"Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
news:2C0xf.5343$ZA2.3845@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> Hi folks,
> One of the things I got for Christmas in a clock/temperature monitor that
> tells you what the temperature inside the Jeep is and also what
> temperature
> is outside the jeep. It sticks with sticky velcro anywhere you want to
> stick it - I put mine over the glove box so my daughter has something to
> do
> <grin>. My question for the folks is this:
>
> It comes with a lead on a long wire for the outside temp sensor and I am
> having an indecisive time coming up with a spot to stick it. The
> literature
> (the deep thought stuff on the packaging) suggests in the door frame, but
> on
> this Jeep the doors are off most of the summer as much as I can get away
> with. The idea here is it beeps when freezing to warn for black ice
> possibility. It needs to stay relatively dry and not be affected by motor
> heat. It has maybe 8 feet of wire. Suggestions?
> Thanks folks,
> Tomes
> 02 TJ
>
>

Jeff Strickland

On my BMW, the probe is mounted in one of the aor ducts that direct cold air
onto the brake rotors.

All you need to do is put it where it won't be affected by the hot exhaust
system. Surely the probe is adequately sealed to deal with water splashing
on it. I'd pick a spot where the rocks won't get it, if there is such a spot
....






"Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
news:2C0xf.5343$ZA2.3845@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> Hi folks,
> One of the things I got for Christmas in a clock/temperature monitor that
> tells you what the temperature inside the Jeep is and also what
> temperature
> is outside the jeep. It sticks with sticky velcro anywhere you want to
> stick it - I put mine over the glove box so my daughter has something to
> do
> <grin>. My question for the folks is this:
>
> It comes with a lead on a long wire for the outside temp sensor and I am
> having an indecisive time coming up with a spot to stick it. The
> literature
> (the deep thought stuff on the packaging) suggests in the door frame, but
> on
> this Jeep the doors are off most of the summer as much as I can get away
> with. The idea here is it beeps when freezing to warn for black ice
> possibility. It needs to stay relatively dry and not be affected by motor
> heat. It has maybe 8 feet of wire. Suggestions?
> Thanks folks,
> Tomes
> 02 TJ
>
>

Jeff Strickland

On my BMW, the probe is mounted in one of the aor ducts that direct cold air
onto the brake rotors.

All you need to do is put it where it won't be affected by the hot exhaust
system. Surely the probe is adequately sealed to deal with water splashing
on it. I'd pick a spot where the rocks won't get it, if there is such a spot
....






"Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
news:2C0xf.5343$ZA2.3845@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> Hi folks,
> One of the things I got for Christmas in a clock/temperature monitor that
> tells you what the temperature inside the Jeep is and also what
> temperature
> is outside the jeep. It sticks with sticky velcro anywhere you want to
> stick it - I put mine over the glove box so my daughter has something to
> do
> <grin>. My question for the folks is this:
>
> It comes with a lead on a long wire for the outside temp sensor and I am
> having an indecisive time coming up with a spot to stick it. The
> literature
> (the deep thought stuff on the packaging) suggests in the door frame, but
> on
> this Jeep the doors are off most of the summer as much as I can get away
> with. The idea here is it beeps when freezing to warn for black ice
> possibility. It needs to stay relatively dry and not be affected by motor
> heat. It has maybe 8 feet of wire. Suggestions?
> Thanks folks,
> Tomes
> 02 TJ
>
>

Tomes

Thanks Jeff. Right now I am running it under the carpet, out the back door
and mounting it on the bottom of the 3rd brake light. We will see how that
works out. It is in the elements and somewhat protected.
Tomes

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vdidndNoI_1l9VTenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@ez2.net...
> On my BMW, the probe is mounted in one of the aor ducts that direct cold
air
> onto the brake rotors.
>
> All you need to do is put it where it won't be affected by the hot exhaust
> system. Surely the probe is adequately sealed to deal with water splashing
> on it. I'd pick a spot where the rocks won't get it, if there is such a
spot
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:2C0xf.5343$ZA2.3845@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > Hi folks,
> > One of the things I got for Christmas in a clock/temperature monitor
that
> > tells you what the temperature inside the Jeep is and also what
> > temperature
> > is outside the jeep. It sticks with sticky velcro anywhere you want to
> > stick it - I put mine over the glove box so my daughter has something to
> > do
> > <grin>. My question for the folks is this:
> >
> > It comes with a lead on a long wire for the outside temp sensor and I am
> > having an indecisive time coming up with a spot to stick it. The
> > literature
> > (the deep thought stuff on the packaging) suggests in the door frame,
but
> > on
> > this Jeep the doors are off most of the summer as much as I can get away
> > with. The idea here is it beeps when freezing to warn for black ice
> > possibility. It needs to stay relatively dry and not be affected by
motor
> > heat. It has maybe 8 feet of wire. Suggestions?
> > Thanks folks,
> > Tomes
> > 02 TJ
> >
> >
>

Tomes

Thanks Jeff. Right now I am running it under the carpet, out the back door
and mounting it on the bottom of the 3rd brake light. We will see how that
works out. It is in the elements and somewhat protected.
Tomes

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vdidndNoI_1l9VTenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@ez2.net...
> On my BMW, the probe is mounted in one of the aor ducts that direct cold
air
> onto the brake rotors.
>
> All you need to do is put it where it won't be affected by the hot exhaust
> system. Surely the probe is adequately sealed to deal with water splashing
> on it. I'd pick a spot where the rocks won't get it, if there is such a
spot
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:2C0xf.5343$ZA2.3845@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > Hi folks,
> > One of the things I got for Christmas in a clock/temperature monitor
that
> > tells you what the temperature inside the Jeep is and also what
> > temperature
> > is outside the jeep. It sticks with sticky velcro anywhere you want to
> > stick it - I put mine over the glove box so my daughter has something to
> > do
> > <grin>. My question for the folks is this:
> >
> > It comes with a lead on a long wire for the outside temp sensor and I am
> > having an indecisive time coming up with a spot to stick it. The
> > literature
> > (the deep thought stuff on the packaging) suggests in the door frame,
but
> > on
> > this Jeep the doors are off most of the summer as much as I can get away
> > with. The idea here is it beeps when freezing to warn for black ice
> > possibility. It needs to stay relatively dry and not be affected by
motor
> > heat. It has maybe 8 feet of wire. Suggestions?
> > Thanks folks,
> > Tomes
> > 02 TJ
> >
> >
>

Tomes

Thanks Jeff. Right now I am running it under the carpet, out the back door
and mounting it on the bottom of the 3rd brake light. We will see how that
works out. It is in the elements and somewhat protected.
Tomes

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vdidndNoI_1l9VTenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@ez2.net...
> On my BMW, the probe is mounted in one of the aor ducts that direct cold
air
> onto the brake rotors.
>
> All you need to do is put it where it won't be affected by the hot exhaust
> system. Surely the probe is adequately sealed to deal with water splashing
> on it. I'd pick a spot where the rocks won't get it, if there is such a
spot
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:2C0xf.5343$ZA2.3845@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> > Hi folks,
> > One of the things I got for Christmas in a clock/temperature monitor
that
> > tells you what the temperature inside the Jeep is and also what
> > temperature
> > is outside the jeep. It sticks with sticky velcro anywhere you want to
> > stick it - I put mine over the glove box so my daughter has something to
> > do
> > <grin>. My question for the folks is this:
> >
> > It comes with a lead on a long wire for the outside temp sensor and I am
> > having an indecisive time coming up with a spot to stick it. The
> > literature
> > (the deep thought stuff on the packaging) suggests in the door frame,
but
> > on
> > this Jeep the doors are off most of the summer as much as I can get away
> > with. The idea here is it beeps when freezing to warn for black ice
> > possibility. It needs to stay relatively dry and not be affected by
motor
> > heat. It has maybe 8 feet of wire. Suggestions?
> > Thanks folks,
> > Tomes
> > 02 TJ
> >
> >
>