Interesting question
10-18-2006, 11:04 PM
#31
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Re: Interesting question
You never asked why divers drink so much coffee in cold weather?
"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:17:02 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>You could also hang your lunch from them (wrapped in foil) and you'll have
>>a
>>hot meal at lunchtime on the trail. Or zip-tie your lunch to the intake
>>manifold. If you use canned items, make sure you put a vent hole in the
>>can,
>>or you may end up with a nasty mess when it explodes.
>
> I once used the manifold of my Scout to heat a quart of water while I
> donned my SCUBA on a February day. I waded in up to just below my
> navel (where it starts feeling cold), let my buddy pour it down the
> back of my partially-zipped jacket, then quickly zipped it up and
> submerged before it had time to drain to lake level. I was new to the
> hobby, and found it was totally unnecessary. (Old US Divers 1/4" wet
> suit). But it's a good technique to remember for hot chocolate. :)
>
> Dan
>>
>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
>>news:453635b5$0$19665$88260bb3@free.teranews.com ...
>>> "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
>>> news:dbOdnTjfDcy2H6jYnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
>>>> Carl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > They are pretty easy to pull when you need to service something
>>>> > and re-install when you are done.
>>>>
>>>> This is true - hadn't thought of that. Thanks!
>>>
>>> They are also good for drying socks. I'll bet some of the hunters in
>>> this
>>> group can confirm that. ;^)
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>
>
"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:17:02 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>You could also hang your lunch from them (wrapped in foil) and you'll have
>>a
>>hot meal at lunchtime on the trail. Or zip-tie your lunch to the intake
>>manifold. If you use canned items, make sure you put a vent hole in the
>>can,
>>or you may end up with a nasty mess when it explodes.
>
> I once used the manifold of my Scout to heat a quart of water while I
> donned my SCUBA on a February day. I waded in up to just below my
> navel (where it starts feeling cold), let my buddy pour it down the
> back of my partially-zipped jacket, then quickly zipped it up and
> submerged before it had time to drain to lake level. I was new to the
> hobby, and found it was totally unnecessary. (Old US Divers 1/4" wet
> suit). But it's a good technique to remember for hot chocolate. :)
>
> Dan
>>
>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
>>news:453635b5$0$19665$88260bb3@free.teranews.com ...
>>> "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
>>> news:dbOdnTjfDcy2H6jYnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
>>>> Carl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > They are pretty easy to pull when you need to service something
>>>> > and re-install when you are done.
>>>>
>>>> This is true - hadn't thought of that. Thanks!
>>>
>>> They are also good for drying socks. I'll bet some of the hunters in
>>> this
>>> group can confirm that. ;^)
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>
>>
>
10-19-2006, 01:58 AM
#32
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Re: Interesting question
I wouldn't, most Jeep use one or two frame mounts forward of the
tub, and there are no straight pieces in the fenders to use as a strut,
hold the radiator away from the fan, just torquing over an uneven ditch
could punch the radiator. And haven't you had a tree jump out in front
of you, while off roading?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Outatime wrote:
>
> A guy I ran into at the gas station the other day mentioned that the 2
> engine compartment supports that run from grille to firewall on a TJ can
> be removed for easier servicing, since (he believes) they were placed
> there during manufacturing only to support the assembly prior to
> welding. His were removed with no apparent problems.
>
> Sure, it would be easier to perform maintainance without them in the
> way, but I'm not sure if his reasoning is valid. They're pretty
> flimsy-looking which supports his claim, but I don't want to mess with
> them if structural integrity will be compromised.
>
> Does anyone know the truth behind this? Has anyone removed theirs, and
> can tell me if problems arise because of it?
tub, and there are no straight pieces in the fenders to use as a strut,
hold the radiator away from the fan, just torquing over an uneven ditch
could punch the radiator. And haven't you had a tree jump out in front
of you, while off roading?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Outatime wrote:
>
> A guy I ran into at the gas station the other day mentioned that the 2
> engine compartment supports that run from grille to firewall on a TJ can
> be removed for easier servicing, since (he believes) they were placed
> there during manufacturing only to support the assembly prior to
> welding. His were removed with no apparent problems.
>
> Sure, it would be easier to perform maintainance without them in the
> way, but I'm not sure if his reasoning is valid. They're pretty
> flimsy-looking which supports his claim, but I don't want to mess with
> them if structural integrity will be compromised.
>
> Does anyone know the truth behind this? Has anyone removed theirs, and
> can tell me if problems arise because of it?
10-19-2006, 01:58 AM
#33
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Re: Interesting question
I wouldn't, most Jeep use one or two frame mounts forward of the
tub, and there are no straight pieces in the fenders to use as a strut,
hold the radiator away from the fan, just torquing over an uneven ditch
could punch the radiator. And haven't you had a tree jump out in front
of you, while off roading?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Outatime wrote:
>
> A guy I ran into at the gas station the other day mentioned that the 2
> engine compartment supports that run from grille to firewall on a TJ can
> be removed for easier servicing, since (he believes) they were placed
> there during manufacturing only to support the assembly prior to
> welding. His were removed with no apparent problems.
>
> Sure, it would be easier to perform maintainance without them in the
> way, but I'm not sure if his reasoning is valid. They're pretty
> flimsy-looking which supports his claim, but I don't want to mess with
> them if structural integrity will be compromised.
>
> Does anyone know the truth behind this? Has anyone removed theirs, and
> can tell me if problems arise because of it?
tub, and there are no straight pieces in the fenders to use as a strut,
hold the radiator away from the fan, just torquing over an uneven ditch
could punch the radiator. And haven't you had a tree jump out in front
of you, while off roading?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Outatime wrote:
>
> A guy I ran into at the gas station the other day mentioned that the 2
> engine compartment supports that run from grille to firewall on a TJ can
> be removed for easier servicing, since (he believes) they were placed
> there during manufacturing only to support the assembly prior to
> welding. His were removed with no apparent problems.
>
> Sure, it would be easier to perform maintainance without them in the
> way, but I'm not sure if his reasoning is valid. They're pretty
> flimsy-looking which supports his claim, but I don't want to mess with
> them if structural integrity will be compromised.
>
> Does anyone know the truth behind this? Has anyone removed theirs, and
> can tell me if problems arise because of it?
10-19-2006, 01:58 AM
#34
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Re: Interesting question
I wouldn't, most Jeep use one or two frame mounts forward of the
tub, and there are no straight pieces in the fenders to use as a strut,
hold the radiator away from the fan, just torquing over an uneven ditch
could punch the radiator. And haven't you had a tree jump out in front
of you, while off roading?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Outatime wrote:
>
> A guy I ran into at the gas station the other day mentioned that the 2
> engine compartment supports that run from grille to firewall on a TJ can
> be removed for easier servicing, since (he believes) they were placed
> there during manufacturing only to support the assembly prior to
> welding. His were removed with no apparent problems.
>
> Sure, it would be easier to perform maintainance without them in the
> way, but I'm not sure if his reasoning is valid. They're pretty
> flimsy-looking which supports his claim, but I don't want to mess with
> them if structural integrity will be compromised.
>
> Does anyone know the truth behind this? Has anyone removed theirs, and
> can tell me if problems arise because of it?
tub, and there are no straight pieces in the fenders to use as a strut,
hold the radiator away from the fan, just torquing over an uneven ditch
could punch the radiator. And haven't you had a tree jump out in front
of you, while off roading?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Outatime wrote:
>
> A guy I ran into at the gas station the other day mentioned that the 2
> engine compartment supports that run from grille to firewall on a TJ can
> be removed for easier servicing, since (he believes) they were placed
> there during manufacturing only to support the assembly prior to
> welding. His were removed with no apparent problems.
>
> Sure, it would be easier to perform maintainance without them in the
> way, but I'm not sure if his reasoning is valid. They're pretty
> flimsy-looking which supports his claim, but I don't want to mess with
> them if structural integrity will be compromised.
>
> Does anyone know the truth behind this? Has anyone removed theirs, and
> can tell me if problems arise because of it?
10-19-2006, 02:20 AM
#35
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Re: Interesting question
Hi Matt,
Yes, I drove all over Europe with my '58 Ford heating free K
rations for me to eat: http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg I don't
think I could have used a total 45 days leave, going through Germany,
Switzerland, Austria, Italy to Rome, and back along Riviera to Spain,
and up through France to A'Dam, back to London, Belgium, Luxembourg,
then again hundreds of towns in France, on a hundred and sixty bucks a
month, with gasoline as expensive it is now here.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> You could also hang your lunch from them (wrapped in foil) and you'll have a
> hot meal at lunchtime on the trail. Or zip-tie your lunch to the intake
> manifold. If you use canned items, make sure you put a vent hole in the can,
> or you may end up with a nasty mess when it explodes.
Yes, I drove all over Europe with my '58 Ford heating free K
rations for me to eat: http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg I don't
think I could have used a total 45 days leave, going through Germany,
Switzerland, Austria, Italy to Rome, and back along Riviera to Spain,
and up through France to A'Dam, back to London, Belgium, Luxembourg,
then again hundreds of towns in France, on a hundred and sixty bucks a
month, with gasoline as expensive it is now here.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> You could also hang your lunch from them (wrapped in foil) and you'll have a
> hot meal at lunchtime on the trail. Or zip-tie your lunch to the intake
> manifold. If you use canned items, make sure you put a vent hole in the can,
> or you may end up with a nasty mess when it explodes.
10-19-2006, 02:20 AM
#36
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Re: Interesting question
Hi Matt,
Yes, I drove all over Europe with my '58 Ford heating free K
rations for me to eat: http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg I don't
think I could have used a total 45 days leave, going through Germany,
Switzerland, Austria, Italy to Rome, and back along Riviera to Spain,
and up through France to A'Dam, back to London, Belgium, Luxembourg,
then again hundreds of towns in France, on a hundred and sixty bucks a
month, with gasoline as expensive it is now here.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> You could also hang your lunch from them (wrapped in foil) and you'll have a
> hot meal at lunchtime on the trail. Or zip-tie your lunch to the intake
> manifold. If you use canned items, make sure you put a vent hole in the can,
> or you may end up with a nasty mess when it explodes.
Yes, I drove all over Europe with my '58 Ford heating free K
rations for me to eat: http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg I don't
think I could have used a total 45 days leave, going through Germany,
Switzerland, Austria, Italy to Rome, and back along Riviera to Spain,
and up through France to A'Dam, back to London, Belgium, Luxembourg,
then again hundreds of towns in France, on a hundred and sixty bucks a
month, with gasoline as expensive it is now here.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> You could also hang your lunch from them (wrapped in foil) and you'll have a
> hot meal at lunchtime on the trail. Or zip-tie your lunch to the intake
> manifold. If you use canned items, make sure you put a vent hole in the can,
> or you may end up with a nasty mess when it explodes.
10-19-2006, 02:20 AM
#37
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Re: Interesting question
Hi Matt,
Yes, I drove all over Europe with my '58 Ford heating free K
rations for me to eat: http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg I don't
think I could have used a total 45 days leave, going through Germany,
Switzerland, Austria, Italy to Rome, and back along Riviera to Spain,
and up through France to A'Dam, back to London, Belgium, Luxembourg,
then again hundreds of towns in France, on a hundred and sixty bucks a
month, with gasoline as expensive it is now here.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> You could also hang your lunch from them (wrapped in foil) and you'll have a
> hot meal at lunchtime on the trail. Or zip-tie your lunch to the intake
> manifold. If you use canned items, make sure you put a vent hole in the can,
> or you may end up with a nasty mess when it explodes.
Yes, I drove all over Europe with my '58 Ford heating free K
rations for me to eat: http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg I don't
think I could have used a total 45 days leave, going through Germany,
Switzerland, Austria, Italy to Rome, and back along Riviera to Spain,
and up through France to A'Dam, back to London, Belgium, Luxembourg,
then again hundreds of towns in France, on a hundred and sixty bucks a
month, with gasoline as expensive it is now here.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> You could also hang your lunch from them (wrapped in foil) and you'll have a
> hot meal at lunchtime on the trail. Or zip-tie your lunch to the intake
> manifold. If you use canned items, make sure you put a vent hole in the can,
> or you may end up with a nasty mess when it explodes.
10-19-2006, 09:51 AM
#38
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Re: Interesting question
And sick the whole time from what you were eating......
Which meal did you prefer?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4537194B.C4585F28@***.net...
> Hi Matt,
> Yes, I drove all over Europe with my '58 Ford heating free K
> rations for me to eat: http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg I don't
> think I could have used a total 45 days leave, going through Germany,
> Switzerland, Austria, Italy to Rome, and back along Riviera to Spain,
> and up through France to A'Dam, back to London, Belgium, Luxembourg,
> then again hundreds of towns in France, on a hundred and sixty bucks a
> month, with gasoline as expensive it is now here.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> You could also hang your lunch from them (wrapped in foil) and you'll
>> have a
>> hot meal at lunchtime on the trail. Or zip-tie your lunch to the intake
>> manifold. If you use canned items, make sure you put a vent hole in the
>> can,
>> or you may end up with a nasty mess when it explodes.
Which meal did you prefer?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4537194B.C4585F28@***.net...
> Hi Matt,
> Yes, I drove all over Europe with my '58 Ford heating free K
> rations for me to eat: http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg I don't
> think I could have used a total 45 days leave, going through Germany,
> Switzerland, Austria, Italy to Rome, and back along Riviera to Spain,
> and up through France to A'Dam, back to London, Belgium, Luxembourg,
> then again hundreds of towns in France, on a hundred and sixty bucks a
> month, with gasoline as expensive it is now here.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> You could also hang your lunch from them (wrapped in foil) and you'll
>> have a
>> hot meal at lunchtime on the trail. Or zip-tie your lunch to the intake
>> manifold. If you use canned items, make sure you put a vent hole in the
>> can,
>> or you may end up with a nasty mess when it explodes.
10-19-2006, 09:51 AM
#39
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Re: Interesting question
And sick the whole time from what you were eating......
Which meal did you prefer?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4537194B.C4585F28@***.net...
> Hi Matt,
> Yes, I drove all over Europe with my '58 Ford heating free K
> rations for me to eat: http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg I don't
> think I could have used a total 45 days leave, going through Germany,
> Switzerland, Austria, Italy to Rome, and back along Riviera to Spain,
> and up through France to A'Dam, back to London, Belgium, Luxembourg,
> then again hundreds of towns in France, on a hundred and sixty bucks a
> month, with gasoline as expensive it is now here.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> You could also hang your lunch from them (wrapped in foil) and you'll
>> have a
>> hot meal at lunchtime on the trail. Or zip-tie your lunch to the intake
>> manifold. If you use canned items, make sure you put a vent hole in the
>> can,
>> or you may end up with a nasty mess when it explodes.
Which meal did you prefer?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4537194B.C4585F28@***.net...
> Hi Matt,
> Yes, I drove all over Europe with my '58 Ford heating free K
> rations for me to eat: http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg I don't
> think I could have used a total 45 days leave, going through Germany,
> Switzerland, Austria, Italy to Rome, and back along Riviera to Spain,
> and up through France to A'Dam, back to London, Belgium, Luxembourg,
> then again hundreds of towns in France, on a hundred and sixty bucks a
> month, with gasoline as expensive it is now here.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> You could also hang your lunch from them (wrapped in foil) and you'll
>> have a
>> hot meal at lunchtime on the trail. Or zip-tie your lunch to the intake
>> manifold. If you use canned items, make sure you put a vent hole in the
>> can,
>> or you may end up with a nasty mess when it explodes.
10-19-2006, 09:51 AM
#40
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Re: Interesting question
And sick the whole time from what you were eating......
Which meal did you prefer?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4537194B.C4585F28@***.net...
> Hi Matt,
> Yes, I drove all over Europe with my '58 Ford heating free K
> rations for me to eat: http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg I don't
> think I could have used a total 45 days leave, going through Germany,
> Switzerland, Austria, Italy to Rome, and back along Riviera to Spain,
> and up through France to A'Dam, back to London, Belgium, Luxembourg,
> then again hundreds of towns in France, on a hundred and sixty bucks a
> month, with gasoline as expensive it is now here.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> You could also hang your lunch from them (wrapped in foil) and you'll
>> have a
>> hot meal at lunchtime on the trail. Or zip-tie your lunch to the intake
>> manifold. If you use canned items, make sure you put a vent hole in the
>> can,
>> or you may end up with a nasty mess when it explodes.
Which meal did you prefer?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4537194B.C4585F28@***.net...
> Hi Matt,
> Yes, I drove all over Europe with my '58 Ford heating free K
> rations for me to eat: http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg I don't
> think I could have used a total 45 days leave, going through Germany,
> Switzerland, Austria, Italy to Rome, and back along Riviera to Spain,
> and up through France to A'Dam, back to London, Belgium, Luxembourg,
> then again hundreds of towns in France, on a hundred and sixty bucks a
> month, with gasoline as expensive it is now here.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/baumholder.jpg
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> You could also hang your lunch from them (wrapped in foil) and you'll
>> have a
>> hot meal at lunchtime on the trail. Or zip-tie your lunch to the intake
>> manifold. If you use canned items, make sure you put a vent hole in the
>> can,
>> or you may end up with a nasty mess when it explodes.
