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Jamie Mello 08-27-2007 01:17 PM

Installing manual locking hubs 99 wrangler
 
Hi there I have a 99 wrangler I am looking to installing a pair of
manual locking hubs in the front axle.(dana 30)
And wanted to know how hard it was to install? And are manual locking
hubs the same as manual locking lockers? I am new to some of this
stuff as you may see.

Thanks Jamie any help would be very nice


Mike Romain 08-27-2007 02:24 PM

Re: Installing manual locking hubs 99 wrangler
 
Jamie Mello wrote:
> Hi there I have a 99 wrangler I am looking to installing a pair of
> manual locking hubs in the front axle.(dana 30)
> And wanted to know how hard it was to install? And are manual locking
> hubs the same as manual locking lockers? I am new to some of this
> stuff as you may see.
>
> Thanks Jamie any help would be very nice
>


Are you looking to get a 2 wheel drive low range or for a couple extra mpg?

All the hub locks do is allow the front wheels to freewheel vs turning
the axles as it does now.

Wear and tear is debatable. U-joints that sit tend to rust, spinning
ones stay lubed usually.

I get a couple mpg less when driving with the hubs locked.

You will need to swap your hub, spindle and axles out. I don't know if
you can do that and even keep the rims you now have either. A CJ setup
has a different wheel rim bolt measurement.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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Mike Romain 08-27-2007 02:24 PM

Re: Installing manual locking hubs 99 wrangler
 
Jamie Mello wrote:
> Hi there I have a 99 wrangler I am looking to installing a pair of
> manual locking hubs in the front axle.(dana 30)
> And wanted to know how hard it was to install? And are manual locking
> hubs the same as manual locking lockers? I am new to some of this
> stuff as you may see.
>
> Thanks Jamie any help would be very nice
>


Are you looking to get a 2 wheel drive low range or for a couple extra mpg?

All the hub locks do is allow the front wheels to freewheel vs turning
the axles as it does now.

Wear and tear is debatable. U-joints that sit tend to rust, spinning
ones stay lubed usually.

I get a couple mpg less when driving with the hubs locked.

You will need to swap your hub, spindle and axles out. I don't know if
you can do that and even keep the rims you now have either. A CJ setup
has a different wheel rim bolt measurement.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 08-27-2007 02:24 PM

Re: Installing manual locking hubs 99 wrangler
 
Jamie Mello wrote:
> Hi there I have a 99 wrangler I am looking to installing a pair of
> manual locking hubs in the front axle.(dana 30)
> And wanted to know how hard it was to install? And are manual locking
> hubs the same as manual locking lockers? I am new to some of this
> stuff as you may see.
>
> Thanks Jamie any help would be very nice
>


Are you looking to get a 2 wheel drive low range or for a couple extra mpg?

All the hub locks do is allow the front wheels to freewheel vs turning
the axles as it does now.

Wear and tear is debatable. U-joints that sit tend to rust, spinning
ones stay lubed usually.

I get a couple mpg less when driving with the hubs locked.

You will need to swap your hub, spindle and axles out. I don't know if
you can do that and even keep the rims you now have either. A CJ setup
has a different wheel rim bolt measurement.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 08-27-2007 02:24 PM

Re: Installing manual locking hubs 99 wrangler
 
Jamie Mello wrote:
> Hi there I have a 99 wrangler I am looking to installing a pair of
> manual locking hubs in the front axle.(dana 30)
> And wanted to know how hard it was to install? And are manual locking
> hubs the same as manual locking lockers? I am new to some of this
> stuff as you may see.
>
> Thanks Jamie any help would be very nice
>


Are you looking to get a 2 wheel drive low range or for a couple extra mpg?

All the hub locks do is allow the front wheels to freewheel vs turning
the axles as it does now.

Wear and tear is debatable. U-joints that sit tend to rust, spinning
ones stay lubed usually.

I get a couple mpg less when driving with the hubs locked.

You will need to swap your hub, spindle and axles out. I don't know if
you can do that and even keep the rims you now have either. A CJ setup
has a different wheel rim bolt measurement.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

twaldron 08-27-2007 02:43 PM

Re: Installing manual locking hubs 99 wrangler
 
Jamie Mello wrote:
> Hi there I have a 99 wrangler I am looking to installing a pair of
> manual locking hubs in the front axle.(dana 30)
> And wanted to know how hard it was to install? And are manual locking
> hubs the same as manual locking lockers? I am new to some of this
> stuff as you may see.
>
> Thanks Jamie any help would be very nice
>



Why? Are the auto locking hubs broken? No, a locker is a different
animal. So, which do you want to install? A locker system for your axle,
or locking hubs?

tw

twaldron 08-27-2007 02:43 PM

Re: Installing manual locking hubs 99 wrangler
 
Jamie Mello wrote:
> Hi there I have a 99 wrangler I am looking to installing a pair of
> manual locking hubs in the front axle.(dana 30)
> And wanted to know how hard it was to install? And are manual locking
> hubs the same as manual locking lockers? I am new to some of this
> stuff as you may see.
>
> Thanks Jamie any help would be very nice
>



Why? Are the auto locking hubs broken? No, a locker is a different
animal. So, which do you want to install? A locker system for your axle,
or locking hubs?

tw

twaldron 08-27-2007 02:43 PM

Re: Installing manual locking hubs 99 wrangler
 
Jamie Mello wrote:
> Hi there I have a 99 wrangler I am looking to installing a pair of
> manual locking hubs in the front axle.(dana 30)
> And wanted to know how hard it was to install? And are manual locking
> hubs the same as manual locking lockers? I am new to some of this
> stuff as you may see.
>
> Thanks Jamie any help would be very nice
>



Why? Are the auto locking hubs broken? No, a locker is a different
animal. So, which do you want to install? A locker system for your axle,
or locking hubs?

tw

twaldron 08-27-2007 02:43 PM

Re: Installing manual locking hubs 99 wrangler
 
Jamie Mello wrote:
> Hi there I have a 99 wrangler I am looking to installing a pair of
> manual locking hubs in the front axle.(dana 30)
> And wanted to know how hard it was to install? And are manual locking
> hubs the same as manual locking lockers? I am new to some of this
> stuff as you may see.
>
> Thanks Jamie any help would be very nice
>



Why? Are the auto locking hubs broken? No, a locker is a different
animal. So, which do you want to install? A locker system for your axle,
or locking hubs?

tw

Matt Macchiarolo 08-27-2007 04:36 PM

Re: Installing manual locking hubs 99 wrangler
 

"Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1188235027.747803.225620@q4g2000prc.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi there I have a 99 wrangler I am looking to installing a pair of
> manual locking hubs in the front axle.(dana 30)


The conversion kits run $800.00 plus, and you may have to have your stock
wheel's center hole machined to fit over the new hub. It's your money but if
you want to spend it to upgrade your Jeep I'd look at something else, like a
winch.


> And wanted to know how hard it was to install?


You'd be taking apart the front axle, replace the axleshafts, install new
spindles, bearings and such, installing new hubs.

And are manual locking
> hubs the same as manual locking lockers?


No. A "locker" is a locking differential, which positively locks together
the axleshafts inside the differential in low-traction situations. A manual
locker does this with a lever or switch, an automatic locker does it, well,
automatically.

It's a similar concept as a limited-slip differential, but not the same, as
an LSD will allow some slippage and differentiation.





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