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Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> That's "boar" as in hog, which is the final word of that
> expression.
>
> --
> Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.

narcolept

"q" <q@SPAMSTOP.cocker-weber.com> wrote in message
news:aSHyb.1555$t87.1073@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> I am doing the same in my 2004. I did not buy the upgraded sterio
because
> it was such crap in my 2002.
> J L Audio has a 6-1/2" subwoofer - reported to be very good. It needs a
> small enclosure. Do a google search. Somepone has info on

6w0 would be the JL model number you're looking for.. Never heard it used as
an actual sub, but as a midbass mounted IB in a door, and I was damn
impressed..


narcolept
-----
damn impressed for a little 6.5" "sub", but I'm a JL -----.


replacing the
> original Mopar sub with this unit.
> I am going to try an 8" sub built for a vented enclosure in the console.
I
> replaced the front speakers with Infinities from my 2002 Wrangler. I used
> Metra adapter plates and canted the speakers slightly up. Made a big
> difference. But, the sound bar is different and the 5-1/4" infinities did
> not fit the sound bar the same way. I had to cut the plastic shims off
the
> factory speakers to mount the infinities and I believe this has cut bass
> response. They were better in the 2002. I will have to mess more with
the
> mounting to improve the sound.
>
> Oh, the grill is not a nock-out. The sub mounts behind it and the grill
> protects the sub. As for replacing the radio, make sure it has a
removable
> face. Depending on where you are, an upgrade will dissapear real fast out
> of your TJ.
>
>
>
> "Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2003.12.01.02.12.01.275579@ix.netcom.com. ..
> > Hello,
> >
> > Talked to the local car audio shop (good reputation locally) about
> > replacing my '04 Wrangler soft-top's factory stereo system with a decent
> > deck and speakers. Looking at an Alpine CDA-9815 with the XM radio
> > option, plus 4 Alpine speakers in the factory locations (either side of
> > the lower dash and in the speaker bar behind the upper sport bar). I've
> > got the following questions about the information I received:
> >
> > 1) The center console has a knock-out grill for a sub-woofer (my Jeep
> > doesn't have a sub-woofer, but does have the console). The salesman
told
> > me it would cost $500 extra to mount a sub-woofer in this area due to
the
> > complications of "building a custom enclosure" and that only a 6"
speaker
> > would fit, eliminating most of the advantages of a sub-woofer. This all
> > sounds like BS to me (how does the factory get one in there?), but why
> > would they tell me this when I'm willing to pay (reasonable) money for a
> > sub-woofer and install (he clearly did not expect me to pop for the
$500,
> > and knew I wouldn't go for it even before he gave me the info).
> >
> > 2) The soft-top eliminates the roof as a possible mount-point for the XM
> > radio antennna. The salesman said we could put it inside the vehicle,
on
> > top of the dash. Anyone see any potential problems or have a better
> > suggestion? Anyone using an XM antenna inside the car? Any problems
with
> > reception?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > PLM
> >
> > --
> > [ ]
> > __OIIIIO__
> > |||=oo=|||
> > ||| |||
>
>

narcolept

"q" <q@SPAMSTOP.cocker-weber.com> wrote in message
news:aSHyb.1555$t87.1073@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> I am doing the same in my 2004. I did not buy the upgraded sterio
because
> it was such crap in my 2002.
> J L Audio has a 6-1/2" subwoofer - reported to be very good. It needs a
> small enclosure. Do a google search. Somepone has info on

6w0 would be the JL model number you're looking for.. Never heard it used as
an actual sub, but as a midbass mounted IB in a door, and I was damn
impressed..


narcolept
-----
damn impressed for a little 6.5" "sub", but I'm a JL -----.


replacing the
> original Mopar sub with this unit.
> I am going to try an 8" sub built for a vented enclosure in the console.
I
> replaced the front speakers with Infinities from my 2002 Wrangler. I used
> Metra adapter plates and canted the speakers slightly up. Made a big
> difference. But, the sound bar is different and the 5-1/4" infinities did
> not fit the sound bar the same way. I had to cut the plastic shims off
the
> factory speakers to mount the infinities and I believe this has cut bass
> response. They were better in the 2002. I will have to mess more with
the
> mounting to improve the sound.
>
> Oh, the grill is not a nock-out. The sub mounts behind it and the grill
> protects the sub. As for replacing the radio, make sure it has a
removable
> face. Depending on where you are, an upgrade will dissapear real fast out
> of your TJ.
>
>
>
> "Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2003.12.01.02.12.01.275579@ix.netcom.com. ..
> > Hello,
> >
> > Talked to the local car audio shop (good reputation locally) about
> > replacing my '04 Wrangler soft-top's factory stereo system with a decent
> > deck and speakers. Looking at an Alpine CDA-9815 with the XM radio
> > option, plus 4 Alpine speakers in the factory locations (either side of
> > the lower dash and in the speaker bar behind the upper sport bar). I've
> > got the following questions about the information I received:
> >
> > 1) The center console has a knock-out grill for a sub-woofer (my Jeep
> > doesn't have a sub-woofer, but does have the console). The salesman
told
> > me it would cost $500 extra to mount a sub-woofer in this area due to
the
> > complications of "building a custom enclosure" and that only a 6"
speaker
> > would fit, eliminating most of the advantages of a sub-woofer. This all
> > sounds like BS to me (how does the factory get one in there?), but why
> > would they tell me this when I'm willing to pay (reasonable) money for a
> > sub-woofer and install (he clearly did not expect me to pop for the
$500,
> > and knew I wouldn't go for it even before he gave me the info).
> >
> > 2) The soft-top eliminates the roof as a possible mount-point for the XM
> > radio antennna. The salesman said we could put it inside the vehicle,
on
> > top of the dash. Anyone see any potential problems or have a better
> > suggestion? Anyone using an XM antenna inside the car? Any problems
with
> > reception?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > PLM
> >
> > --
> > [ ]
> > __OIIIIO__
> > |||=oo=|||
> > ||| |||
>
>

narcolept

"q" <q@SPAMSTOP.cocker-weber.com> wrote in message
news:aSHyb.1555$t87.1073@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> I am doing the same in my 2004. I did not buy the upgraded sterio
because
> it was such crap in my 2002.
> J L Audio has a 6-1/2" subwoofer - reported to be very good. It needs a
> small enclosure. Do a google search. Somepone has info on

6w0 would be the JL model number you're looking for.. Never heard it used as
an actual sub, but as a midbass mounted IB in a door, and I was damn
impressed..


narcolept
-----
damn impressed for a little 6.5" "sub", but I'm a JL -----.


replacing the
> original Mopar sub with this unit.
> I am going to try an 8" sub built for a vented enclosure in the console.
I
> replaced the front speakers with Infinities from my 2002 Wrangler. I used
> Metra adapter plates and canted the speakers slightly up. Made a big
> difference. But, the sound bar is different and the 5-1/4" infinities did
> not fit the sound bar the same way. I had to cut the plastic shims off
the
> factory speakers to mount the infinities and I believe this has cut bass
> response. They were better in the 2002. I will have to mess more with
the
> mounting to improve the sound.
>
> Oh, the grill is not a nock-out. The sub mounts behind it and the grill
> protects the sub. As for replacing the radio, make sure it has a
removable
> face. Depending on where you are, an upgrade will dissapear real fast out
> of your TJ.
>
>
>
> "Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2003.12.01.02.12.01.275579@ix.netcom.com. ..
> > Hello,
> >
> > Talked to the local car audio shop (good reputation locally) about
> > replacing my '04 Wrangler soft-top's factory stereo system with a decent
> > deck and speakers. Looking at an Alpine CDA-9815 with the XM radio
> > option, plus 4 Alpine speakers in the factory locations (either side of
> > the lower dash and in the speaker bar behind the upper sport bar). I've
> > got the following questions about the information I received:
> >
> > 1) The center console has a knock-out grill for a sub-woofer (my Jeep
> > doesn't have a sub-woofer, but does have the console). The salesman
told
> > me it would cost $500 extra to mount a sub-woofer in this area due to
the
> > complications of "building a custom enclosure" and that only a 6"
speaker
> > would fit, eliminating most of the advantages of a sub-woofer. This all
> > sounds like BS to me (how does the factory get one in there?), but why
> > would they tell me this when I'm willing to pay (reasonable) money for a
> > sub-woofer and install (he clearly did not expect me to pop for the
$500,
> > and knew I wouldn't go for it even before he gave me the info).
> >
> > 2) The soft-top eliminates the roof as a possible mount-point for the XM
> > radio antennna. The salesman said we could put it inside the vehicle,
on
> > top of the dash. Anyone see any potential problems or have a better
> > suggestion? Anyone using an XM antenna inside the car? Any problems
with
> > reception?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > PLM
> >
> > --
> > [ ]
> > __OIIIIO__
> > |||=oo=|||
> > ||| |||
>
>

Tha Ghee

"narcolept" <mike@narcolept.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:YvoBb.11411$NN.1437554@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
>
> "q" <q@SPAMSTOP.cocker-weber.com> wrote in message
> news:aSHyb.1555$t87.1073@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > I am doing the same in my 2004. I did not buy the upgraded sterio
> because
> > it was such crap in my 2002.
> > J L Audio has a 6-1/2" subwoofer - reported to be very good. It needs a
> > small enclosure. Do a google search. Somepone has info on
>
> 6w0 would be the JL model number you're looking for.. Never heard it used
as
> an actual sub, but as a midbass mounted IB in a door, and I was damn
> impressed..
>
>
> narcolept
> -----
> damn impressed for a little 6.5" "sub", but I'm a JL -----.

there have been a few installs that have used it as a woofer not a sub
per-se, Morel and Focal both make 6" "subs." I would also look at home
audio they seem to like small diam. spks. that go low

Tha Ghee

"narcolept" <mike@narcolept.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:YvoBb.11411$NN.1437554@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
>
> "q" <q@SPAMSTOP.cocker-weber.com> wrote in message
> news:aSHyb.1555$t87.1073@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > I am doing the same in my 2004. I did not buy the upgraded sterio
> because
> > it was such crap in my 2002.
> > J L Audio has a 6-1/2" subwoofer - reported to be very good. It needs a
> > small enclosure. Do a google search. Somepone has info on
>
> 6w0 would be the JL model number you're looking for.. Never heard it used
as
> an actual sub, but as a midbass mounted IB in a door, and I was damn
> impressed..
>
>
> narcolept
> -----
> damn impressed for a little 6.5" "sub", but I'm a JL -----.

there have been a few installs that have used it as a woofer not a sub
per-se, Morel and Focal both make 6" "subs." I would also look at home
audio they seem to like small diam. spks. that go low

Tha Ghee

"narcolept" <mike@narcolept.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:YvoBb.11411$NN.1437554@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
>
> "q" <q@SPAMSTOP.cocker-weber.com> wrote in message
> news:aSHyb.1555$t87.1073@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > I am doing the same in my 2004. I did not buy the upgraded sterio
> because
> > it was such crap in my 2002.
> > J L Audio has a 6-1/2" subwoofer - reported to be very good. It needs a
> > small enclosure. Do a google search. Somepone has info on
>
> 6w0 would be the JL model number you're looking for.. Never heard it used
as
> an actual sub, but as a midbass mounted IB in a door, and I was damn
> impressed..
>
>
> narcolept
> -----
> damn impressed for a little 6.5" "sub", but I'm a JL -----.

there have been a few installs that have used it as a woofer not a sub
per-se, Morel and Focal both make 6" "subs." I would also look at home
audio they seem to like small diam. spks. that go low

Paul Vina

Isn't the Focal sub a 5"?



Paul Vina



"Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3fd92081$0$62180$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
> "narcolept" <mike@narcolept.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:YvoBb.11411$NN.1437554@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> >
> > "q" <q@SPAMSTOP.cocker-weber.com> wrote in message
> > news:aSHyb.1555$t87.1073@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > > I am doing the same in my 2004. I did not buy the upgraded sterio
> > because
> > > it was such crap in my 2002.
> > > J L Audio has a 6-1/2" subwoofer - reported to be very good. It needs
a
> > > small enclosure. Do a google search. Somepone has info on
> >
> > 6w0 would be the JL model number you're looking for.. Never heard it
used
> as
> > an actual sub, but as a midbass mounted IB in a door, and I was damn
> > impressed..
> >
> >
> > narcolept
> > -----
> > damn impressed for a little 6.5" "sub", but I'm a JL -----.
>
> there have been a few installs that have used it as a woofer not a sub
> per-se, Morel and Focal both make 6" "subs." I would also look at home
> audio they seem to like small diam. spks. that go low
>
>

Paul Vina

Isn't the Focal sub a 5"?



Paul Vina



"Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3fd92081$0$62180$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
> "narcolept" <mike@narcolept.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:YvoBb.11411$NN.1437554@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> >
> > "q" <q@SPAMSTOP.cocker-weber.com> wrote in message
> > news:aSHyb.1555$t87.1073@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > > I am doing the same in my 2004. I did not buy the upgraded sterio
> > because
> > > it was such crap in my 2002.
> > > J L Audio has a 6-1/2" subwoofer - reported to be very good. It needs
a
> > > small enclosure. Do a google search. Somepone has info on
> >
> > 6w0 would be the JL model number you're looking for.. Never heard it
used
> as
> > an actual sub, but as a midbass mounted IB in a door, and I was damn
> > impressed..
> >
> >
> > narcolept
> > -----
> > damn impressed for a little 6.5" "sub", but I'm a JL -----.
>
> there have been a few installs that have used it as a woofer not a sub
> per-se, Morel and Focal both make 6" "subs." I would also look at home
> audio they seem to like small diam. spks. that go low
>
>

Paul Vina

Isn't the Focal sub a 5"?



Paul Vina



"Tha Ghee" <grewatson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3fd92081$0$62180$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
> "narcolept" <mike@narcolept.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:YvoBb.11411$NN.1437554@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> >
> > "q" <q@SPAMSTOP.cocker-weber.com> wrote in message
> > news:aSHyb.1555$t87.1073@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > > I am doing the same in my 2004. I did not buy the upgraded sterio
> > because
> > > it was such crap in my 2002.
> > > J L Audio has a 6-1/2" subwoofer - reported to be very good. It needs
a
> > > small enclosure. Do a google search. Somepone has info on
> >
> > 6w0 would be the JL model number you're looking for.. Never heard it
used
> as
> > an actual sub, but as a midbass mounted IB in a door, and I was damn
> > impressed..
> >
> >
> > narcolept
> > -----
> > damn impressed for a little 6.5" "sub", but I'm a JL -----.
>
> there have been a few installs that have used it as a woofer not a sub
> per-se, Morel and Focal both make 6" "subs." I would also look at home
> audio they seem to like small diam. spks. that go low
>
>