Install question on Jeep Wrangler
12-01-2003, 09:02 AM
#21
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Re: Install question on Jeep Wrangler
I am doing the same in my 2004. I did not buy the upgraded sterio because
it was such crap in my 2002.
J L Audio has a 6-1/2" subwoofer - reported to be very good. It needs a
small enclosure. Do a google search. Somepone has info on replacing the
original Mopar sub with this unit.
I am going to try an 8" sub built for a vented enclosure in the console. I
replaced the front speakers with Infinities from my 2002 Wrangler. I used
Metra adapter plates and canted the speakers slightly up. Made a big
difference. But, the sound bar is different and the 5-1/4" infinities did
not fit the sound bar the same way. I had to cut the plastic shims off the
factory speakers to mount the infinities and I believe this has cut bass
response. They were better in the 2002. I will have to mess more with the
mounting to improve the sound.
Oh, the grill is not a nock-out. The sub mounts behind it and the grill
protects the sub. As for replacing the radio, make sure it has a removable
face. Depending on where you are, an upgrade will dissapear real fast out
of your TJ.
"Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.12.01.02.12.01.275579@ix.netcom.com. ..
> Hello,
>
> Talked to the local car audio shop (good reputation locally) about
> replacing my '04 Wrangler soft-top's factory stereo system with a decent
> deck and speakers. Looking at an Alpine CDA-9815 with the XM radio
> option, plus 4 Alpine speakers in the factory locations (either side of
> the lower dash and in the speaker bar behind the upper sport bar). I've
> got the following questions about the information I received:
>
> 1) The center console has a knock-out grill for a sub-woofer (my Jeep
> doesn't have a sub-woofer, but does have the console). The salesman told
> me it would cost $500 extra to mount a sub-woofer in this area due to the
> complications of "building a custom enclosure" and that only a 6" speaker
> would fit, eliminating most of the advantages of a sub-woofer. This all
> sounds like BS to me (how does the factory get one in there?), but why
> would they tell me this when I'm willing to pay (reasonable) money for a
> sub-woofer and install (he clearly did not expect me to pop for the $500,
> and knew I wouldn't go for it even before he gave me the info).
>
> 2) The soft-top eliminates the roof as a possible mount-point for the XM
> radio antennna. The salesman said we could put it inside the vehicle, on
> top of the dash. Anyone see any potential problems or have a better
> suggestion? Anyone using an XM antenna inside the car? Any problems with
> reception?
>
> Thanks,
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
it was such crap in my 2002.
J L Audio has a 6-1/2" subwoofer - reported to be very good. It needs a
small enclosure. Do a google search. Somepone has info on replacing the
original Mopar sub with this unit.
I am going to try an 8" sub built for a vented enclosure in the console. I
replaced the front speakers with Infinities from my 2002 Wrangler. I used
Metra adapter plates and canted the speakers slightly up. Made a big
difference. But, the sound bar is different and the 5-1/4" infinities did
not fit the sound bar the same way. I had to cut the plastic shims off the
factory speakers to mount the infinities and I believe this has cut bass
response. They were better in the 2002. I will have to mess more with the
mounting to improve the sound.
Oh, the grill is not a nock-out. The sub mounts behind it and the grill
protects the sub. As for replacing the radio, make sure it has a removable
face. Depending on where you are, an upgrade will dissapear real fast out
of your TJ.
"Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.12.01.02.12.01.275579@ix.netcom.com. ..
> Hello,
>
> Talked to the local car audio shop (good reputation locally) about
> replacing my '04 Wrangler soft-top's factory stereo system with a decent
> deck and speakers. Looking at an Alpine CDA-9815 with the XM radio
> option, plus 4 Alpine speakers in the factory locations (either side of
> the lower dash and in the speaker bar behind the upper sport bar). I've
> got the following questions about the information I received:
>
> 1) The center console has a knock-out grill for a sub-woofer (my Jeep
> doesn't have a sub-woofer, but does have the console). The salesman told
> me it would cost $500 extra to mount a sub-woofer in this area due to the
> complications of "building a custom enclosure" and that only a 6" speaker
> would fit, eliminating most of the advantages of a sub-woofer. This all
> sounds like BS to me (how does the factory get one in there?), but why
> would they tell me this when I'm willing to pay (reasonable) money for a
> sub-woofer and install (he clearly did not expect me to pop for the $500,
> and knew I wouldn't go for it even before he gave me the info).
>
> 2) The soft-top eliminates the roof as a possible mount-point for the XM
> radio antennna. The salesman said we could put it inside the vehicle, on
> top of the dash. Anyone see any potential problems or have a better
> suggestion? Anyone using an XM antenna inside the car? Any problems with
> reception?
>
> Thanks,
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
12-01-2003, 09:02 AM
#22
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Re: Install question on Jeep Wrangler
I am doing the same in my 2004. I did not buy the upgraded sterio because
it was such crap in my 2002.
J L Audio has a 6-1/2" subwoofer - reported to be very good. It needs a
small enclosure. Do a google search. Somepone has info on replacing the
original Mopar sub with this unit.
I am going to try an 8" sub built for a vented enclosure in the console. I
replaced the front speakers with Infinities from my 2002 Wrangler. I used
Metra adapter plates and canted the speakers slightly up. Made a big
difference. But, the sound bar is different and the 5-1/4" infinities did
not fit the sound bar the same way. I had to cut the plastic shims off the
factory speakers to mount the infinities and I believe this has cut bass
response. They were better in the 2002. I will have to mess more with the
mounting to improve the sound.
Oh, the grill is not a nock-out. The sub mounts behind it and the grill
protects the sub. As for replacing the radio, make sure it has a removable
face. Depending on where you are, an upgrade will dissapear real fast out
of your TJ.
"Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.12.01.02.12.01.275579@ix.netcom.com. ..
> Hello,
>
> Talked to the local car audio shop (good reputation locally) about
> replacing my '04 Wrangler soft-top's factory stereo system with a decent
> deck and speakers. Looking at an Alpine CDA-9815 with the XM radio
> option, plus 4 Alpine speakers in the factory locations (either side of
> the lower dash and in the speaker bar behind the upper sport bar). I've
> got the following questions about the information I received:
>
> 1) The center console has a knock-out grill for a sub-woofer (my Jeep
> doesn't have a sub-woofer, but does have the console). The salesman told
> me it would cost $500 extra to mount a sub-woofer in this area due to the
> complications of "building a custom enclosure" and that only a 6" speaker
> would fit, eliminating most of the advantages of a sub-woofer. This all
> sounds like BS to me (how does the factory get one in there?), but why
> would they tell me this when I'm willing to pay (reasonable) money for a
> sub-woofer and install (he clearly did not expect me to pop for the $500,
> and knew I wouldn't go for it even before he gave me the info).
>
> 2) The soft-top eliminates the roof as a possible mount-point for the XM
> radio antennna. The salesman said we could put it inside the vehicle, on
> top of the dash. Anyone see any potential problems or have a better
> suggestion? Anyone using an XM antenna inside the car? Any problems with
> reception?
>
> Thanks,
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
it was such crap in my 2002.
J L Audio has a 6-1/2" subwoofer - reported to be very good. It needs a
small enclosure. Do a google search. Somepone has info on replacing the
original Mopar sub with this unit.
I am going to try an 8" sub built for a vented enclosure in the console. I
replaced the front speakers with Infinities from my 2002 Wrangler. I used
Metra adapter plates and canted the speakers slightly up. Made a big
difference. But, the sound bar is different and the 5-1/4" infinities did
not fit the sound bar the same way. I had to cut the plastic shims off the
factory speakers to mount the infinities and I believe this has cut bass
response. They were better in the 2002. I will have to mess more with the
mounting to improve the sound.
Oh, the grill is not a nock-out. The sub mounts behind it and the grill
protects the sub. As for replacing the radio, make sure it has a removable
face. Depending on where you are, an upgrade will dissapear real fast out
of your TJ.
"Patrick Mills" <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.12.01.02.12.01.275579@ix.netcom.com. ..
> Hello,
>
> Talked to the local car audio shop (good reputation locally) about
> replacing my '04 Wrangler soft-top's factory stereo system with a decent
> deck and speakers. Looking at an Alpine CDA-9815 with the XM radio
> option, plus 4 Alpine speakers in the factory locations (either side of
> the lower dash and in the speaker bar behind the upper sport bar). I've
> got the following questions about the information I received:
>
> 1) The center console has a knock-out grill for a sub-woofer (my Jeep
> doesn't have a sub-woofer, but does have the console). The salesman told
> me it would cost $500 extra to mount a sub-woofer in this area due to the
> complications of "building a custom enclosure" and that only a 6" speaker
> would fit, eliminating most of the advantages of a sub-woofer. This all
> sounds like BS to me (how does the factory get one in there?), but why
> would they tell me this when I'm willing to pay (reasonable) money for a
> sub-woofer and install (he clearly did not expect me to pop for the $500,
> and knew I wouldn't go for it even before he gave me the info).
>
> 2) The soft-top eliminates the roof as a possible mount-point for the XM
> radio antennna. The salesman said we could put it inside the vehicle, on
> top of the dash. Anyone see any potential problems or have a better
> suggestion? Anyone using an XM antenna inside the car? Any problems with
> reception?
>
> Thanks,
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
12-01-2003, 12:13 PM
#23
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Re: Install question on Jeep Wrangler
The only audio equipment I try to keep in my Jeeps are disposable
Radio Shack CBs. Maybe a portable AM, FM, CD, or cassette player for a
couple of trips until it dies.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> You may be right, but if you are, I'm sure going to be disappointed. I'm
> planning to go places where I think they might come in pretty handy. ;-)
>
> I went wheeling with a real experienced buddy yesterday (his jeep - an
> older CJ - very rough cosmetically, but in good shape mechanically). He
> didn't have lockers, and pulled off some (to me) amazing feats. At one
> point, I was pressing my feet pretty hard to the floor while he climbed a
> steep valley side (passage was blocked at the bottom). He looked over,
> grinned, and said he appreciated the help keeping the front end down...
>
> I doubt I could follow this guy with all four wheels driving, though...
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
Radio Shack CBs. Maybe a portable AM, FM, CD, or cassette player for a
couple of trips until it dies.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> You may be right, but if you are, I'm sure going to be disappointed. I'm
> planning to go places where I think they might come in pretty handy. ;-)
>
> I went wheeling with a real experienced buddy yesterday (his jeep - an
> older CJ - very rough cosmetically, but in good shape mechanically). He
> didn't have lockers, and pulled off some (to me) amazing feats. At one
> point, I was pressing my feet pretty hard to the floor while he climbed a
> steep valley side (passage was blocked at the bottom). He looked over,
> grinned, and said he appreciated the help keeping the front end down...
>
> I doubt I could follow this guy with all four wheels driving, though...
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
12-01-2003, 12:13 PM
#24
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Re: Install question on Jeep Wrangler
The only audio equipment I try to keep in my Jeeps are disposable
Radio Shack CBs. Maybe a portable AM, FM, CD, or cassette player for a
couple of trips until it dies.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> You may be right, but if you are, I'm sure going to be disappointed. I'm
> planning to go places where I think they might come in pretty handy. ;-)
>
> I went wheeling with a real experienced buddy yesterday (his jeep - an
> older CJ - very rough cosmetically, but in good shape mechanically). He
> didn't have lockers, and pulled off some (to me) amazing feats. At one
> point, I was pressing my feet pretty hard to the floor while he climbed a
> steep valley side (passage was blocked at the bottom). He looked over,
> grinned, and said he appreciated the help keeping the front end down...
>
> I doubt I could follow this guy with all four wheels driving, though...
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
Radio Shack CBs. Maybe a portable AM, FM, CD, or cassette player for a
couple of trips until it dies.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> You may be right, but if you are, I'm sure going to be disappointed. I'm
> planning to go places where I think they might come in pretty handy. ;-)
>
> I went wheeling with a real experienced buddy yesterday (his jeep - an
> older CJ - very rough cosmetically, but in good shape mechanically). He
> didn't have lockers, and pulled off some (to me) amazing feats. At one
> point, I was pressing my feet pretty hard to the floor while he climbed a
> steep valley side (passage was blocked at the bottom). He looked over,
> grinned, and said he appreciated the help keeping the front end down...
>
> I doubt I could follow this guy with all four wheels driving, though...
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
12-01-2003, 12:13 PM
#25
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Re: Install question on Jeep Wrangler
The only audio equipment I try to keep in my Jeeps are disposable
Radio Shack CBs. Maybe a portable AM, FM, CD, or cassette player for a
couple of trips until it dies.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> You may be right, but if you are, I'm sure going to be disappointed. I'm
> planning to go places where I think they might come in pretty handy. ;-)
>
> I went wheeling with a real experienced buddy yesterday (his jeep - an
> older CJ - very rough cosmetically, but in good shape mechanically). He
> didn't have lockers, and pulled off some (to me) amazing feats. At one
> point, I was pressing my feet pretty hard to the floor while he climbed a
> steep valley side (passage was blocked at the bottom). He looked over,
> grinned, and said he appreciated the help keeping the front end down...
>
> I doubt I could follow this guy with all four wheels driving, though...
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
Radio Shack CBs. Maybe a portable AM, FM, CD, or cassette player for a
couple of trips until it dies.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> You may be right, but if you are, I'm sure going to be disappointed. I'm
> planning to go places where I think they might come in pretty handy. ;-)
>
> I went wheeling with a real experienced buddy yesterday (his jeep - an
> older CJ - very rough cosmetically, but in good shape mechanically). He
> didn't have lockers, and pulled off some (to me) amazing feats. At one
> point, I was pressing my feet pretty hard to the floor while he climbed a
> steep valley side (passage was blocked at the bottom). He looked over,
> grinned, and said he appreciated the help keeping the front end down...
>
> I doubt I could follow this guy with all four wheels driving, though...
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
12-01-2003, 12:22 PM
#26
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Re: Install question on Jeep Wrangler
Approximately 11/30/03 21:53, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> Why, they are as useless to him as ---- on a bore.
That's "boar" as in hog, which is the final word of that
expression.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
> Why, they are as useless to him as ---- on a bore.
That's "boar" as in hog, which is the final word of that
expression.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
12-01-2003, 12:22 PM
#27
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Re: Install question on Jeep Wrangler
Approximately 11/30/03 21:53, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> Why, they are as useless to him as ---- on a bore.
That's "boar" as in hog, which is the final word of that
expression.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
> Why, they are as useless to him as ---- on a bore.
That's "boar" as in hog, which is the final word of that
expression.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
12-01-2003, 12:22 PM
#28
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Re: Install question on Jeep Wrangler
Approximately 11/30/03 21:53, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> Why, they are as useless to him as ---- on a bore.
That's "boar" as in hog, which is the final word of that
expression.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
> Why, they are as useless to him as ---- on a bore.
That's "boar" as in hog, which is the final word of that
expression.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
12-01-2003, 12:36 PM
#29
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Re: Install question on Jeep Wrangler
Take a Welshmen for what he means, not what he writes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> That's "boar" as in hog, which is the final word of that
> expression.
>
> --
> Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> That's "boar" as in hog, which is the final word of that
> expression.
>
> --
> Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
12-01-2003, 12:36 PM
#30
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Posts: n/a
Re: Install question on Jeep Wrangler
Take a Welshmen for what he means, not what he writes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> That's "boar" as in hog, which is the final word of that
> expression.
>
> --
> Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> That's "boar" as in hog, which is the final word of that
> expression.
>
> --
> Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.