Re: Ignition switch/lock problem
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:02:06 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote: >Are you sure of that? Yes. > >The lock set is way up high on the steering column, and the ignition switch >itself is down by the brake pedal. There is a linkage that connects the two. Wrong. > >I have not done this job on an XJ, but I did it on my Ford and my CJ5, and >both had the same configuration -- albeit different parts and a a variation >on the implementation of them. I have no reason to expect the XJ to be very >much different than my >CJ. OK then, continue assuming you know what you're talking about and keep misleading the guy. > >In any case, the OP will be able to see the broken stuff once he gets the >steering wheel and lock plate and (maybe) the turn signal switch off. Steering wheel does not need to come off. T/S switch does not need to come off. Doesn't have a lock plate. > > > > > >"bllsht" <nospam@dot.net> wrote in message >news:sdg8a315rvtv2klr33k91iqco432ug9mln@4ax.com.. . >> There is no rack. Since the ignition lock cylinder goes directly into >> the switch, there is no linkage between the two. >> >> Most llikely, and most common failure is the ignition lock cylinder. >> >> >> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:45:10 -0400, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> >> wrote: >> >>>That sounds like it fits, do you think the rack is bad? What part do I >>>ask for? >>> >>>Is this the same bar that releases the steering lock? When the cover >>>was off today I could see that moving back and forth. >>> >>>Thanks! >>> >>>Jeff DeWitt >>> >>>Jeff Strickland wrote: >>>> My vote is on the linkage between the lock set and the switch. >>>> >>>> The lock set has a gear on the back that engages a rack that pulls a bar >>>> that operates the switch. Your trouble is in the rack. >>>> >>>> You have to remove the steering wheel and the steering lock ring and >>>> part of the shrouding between the back of the steering wheel and the >>>> dash board. If you have tilt steering, you have to take that apart as >>>> well. It's really not very difficult, you will need a GM Steering Wheel >>>> Lock Ring Removal Tool as the only special tool, and you can use the >>>> loaners at Autozone, or buy one for about $10. >>>> >>>> The turn signal switch is in your way too. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message >>>> news:46a3e2e6$0$29639$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>>>> My 96 XJ has something like 330k on it and the ignition switch and >>>>> lock has never given any trouble until today. >>>>> >>>>> Got in the Jeep, turned the key and it felt like something went >>>>> "crunch", and when it got to the start position nothing happend. >>>>> >>>>> The dash lights come on, and with a push I got it started and home >>>>> (thank goodness for stick shifts!). It's now hotwired so I can get to >>>>> work until it's fixed but what to fix? >>>>> >>>>> I'm thinking it's the ignition switch, the key turns all the way but >>>>> the starter never engages. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Jeff DeWitt >>>> |
Re: Ignition switch/lock problem
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:02:06 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote: >Are you sure of that? Yes. > >The lock set is way up high on the steering column, and the ignition switch >itself is down by the brake pedal. There is a linkage that connects the two. Wrong. > >I have not done this job on an XJ, but I did it on my Ford and my CJ5, and >both had the same configuration -- albeit different parts and a a variation >on the implementation of them. I have no reason to expect the XJ to be very >much different than my >CJ. OK then, continue assuming you know what you're talking about and keep misleading the guy. > >In any case, the OP will be able to see the broken stuff once he gets the >steering wheel and lock plate and (maybe) the turn signal switch off. Steering wheel does not need to come off. T/S switch does not need to come off. Doesn't have a lock plate. > > > > > >"bllsht" <nospam@dot.net> wrote in message >news:sdg8a315rvtv2klr33k91iqco432ug9mln@4ax.com.. . >> There is no rack. Since the ignition lock cylinder goes directly into >> the switch, there is no linkage between the two. >> >> Most llikely, and most common failure is the ignition lock cylinder. >> >> >> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:45:10 -0400, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> >> wrote: >> >>>That sounds like it fits, do you think the rack is bad? What part do I >>>ask for? >>> >>>Is this the same bar that releases the steering lock? When the cover >>>was off today I could see that moving back and forth. >>> >>>Thanks! >>> >>>Jeff DeWitt >>> >>>Jeff Strickland wrote: >>>> My vote is on the linkage between the lock set and the switch. >>>> >>>> The lock set has a gear on the back that engages a rack that pulls a bar >>>> that operates the switch. Your trouble is in the rack. >>>> >>>> You have to remove the steering wheel and the steering lock ring and >>>> part of the shrouding between the back of the steering wheel and the >>>> dash board. If you have tilt steering, you have to take that apart as >>>> well. It's really not very difficult, you will need a GM Steering Wheel >>>> Lock Ring Removal Tool as the only special tool, and you can use the >>>> loaners at Autozone, or buy one for about $10. >>>> >>>> The turn signal switch is in your way too. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message >>>> news:46a3e2e6$0$29639$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>>>> My 96 XJ has something like 330k on it and the ignition switch and >>>>> lock has never given any trouble until today. >>>>> >>>>> Got in the Jeep, turned the key and it felt like something went >>>>> "crunch", and when it got to the start position nothing happend. >>>>> >>>>> The dash lights come on, and with a push I got it started and home >>>>> (thank goodness for stick shifts!). It's now hotwired so I can get to >>>>> work until it's fixed but what to fix? >>>>> >>>>> I'm thinking it's the ignition switch, the key turns all the way but >>>>> the starter never engages. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Jeff DeWitt >>>> |
Re: Ignition switch/lock problem
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:02:06 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote: >Are you sure of that? Yes. > >The lock set is way up high on the steering column, and the ignition switch >itself is down by the brake pedal. There is a linkage that connects the two. Wrong. > >I have not done this job on an XJ, but I did it on my Ford and my CJ5, and >both had the same configuration -- albeit different parts and a a variation >on the implementation of them. I have no reason to expect the XJ to be very >much different than my >CJ. OK then, continue assuming you know what you're talking about and keep misleading the guy. > >In any case, the OP will be able to see the broken stuff once he gets the >steering wheel and lock plate and (maybe) the turn signal switch off. Steering wheel does not need to come off. T/S switch does not need to come off. Doesn't have a lock plate. > > > > > >"bllsht" <nospam@dot.net> wrote in message >news:sdg8a315rvtv2klr33k91iqco432ug9mln@4ax.com.. . >> There is no rack. Since the ignition lock cylinder goes directly into >> the switch, there is no linkage between the two. >> >> Most llikely, and most common failure is the ignition lock cylinder. >> >> >> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:45:10 -0400, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> >> wrote: >> >>>That sounds like it fits, do you think the rack is bad? What part do I >>>ask for? >>> >>>Is this the same bar that releases the steering lock? When the cover >>>was off today I could see that moving back and forth. >>> >>>Thanks! >>> >>>Jeff DeWitt >>> >>>Jeff Strickland wrote: >>>> My vote is on the linkage between the lock set and the switch. >>>> >>>> The lock set has a gear on the back that engages a rack that pulls a bar >>>> that operates the switch. Your trouble is in the rack. >>>> >>>> You have to remove the steering wheel and the steering lock ring and >>>> part of the shrouding between the back of the steering wheel and the >>>> dash board. If you have tilt steering, you have to take that apart as >>>> well. It's really not very difficult, you will need a GM Steering Wheel >>>> Lock Ring Removal Tool as the only special tool, and you can use the >>>> loaners at Autozone, or buy one for about $10. >>>> >>>> The turn signal switch is in your way too. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message >>>> news:46a3e2e6$0$29639$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>>>> My 96 XJ has something like 330k on it and the ignition switch and >>>>> lock has never given any trouble until today. >>>>> >>>>> Got in the Jeep, turned the key and it felt like something went >>>>> "crunch", and when it got to the start position nothing happend. >>>>> >>>>> The dash lights come on, and with a push I got it started and home >>>>> (thank goodness for stick shifts!). It's now hotwired so I can get to >>>>> work until it's fixed but what to fix? >>>>> >>>>> I'm thinking it's the ignition switch, the key turns all the way but >>>>> the starter never engages. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Jeff DeWitt >>>> |
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