I need R-12
06-01-2007, 11:07 AM
#31
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Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
In article <4660300f$0$4694$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com says...
>
> >
> > Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
> >
> > You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
> >
> > And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
> > when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
> >
>
> Mike,
> Just a little tidbit of info.
> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
> work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
> gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
> environment.
Can you find a modern car today with the fuel tank in the passenger
cabin?
Can you find fuel lines running through the passenger cabing?
Do you smoke? What happens if someone lights up a cigarette with a
evaporator leaking hc's into the cabin?
Have you seen evaporators, condensers, compressors, and the passenger
cabin after a propane a/c system explosion? Its like turning your a/c
system into an IED. Its real easy for the pressures to get out of hand.
Not only do you endanger people inside the car but you also endanger
anyone working on or around the car. Especially anyone trying to service
the car. That compressor and condensor would go off like a grenade.
Running anything other than r12 in a r12 system or 134a in a 134a system
is nothing short of stupid.
askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com says...
>
> >
> > Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
> >
> > You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
> >
> > And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
> > when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
> >
>
> Mike,
> Just a little tidbit of info.
> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
> work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
> gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
> environment.
Can you find a modern car today with the fuel tank in the passenger
cabin?
Can you find fuel lines running through the passenger cabing?
Do you smoke? What happens if someone lights up a cigarette with a
evaporator leaking hc's into the cabin?
Have you seen evaporators, condensers, compressors, and the passenger
cabin after a propane a/c system explosion? Its like turning your a/c
system into an IED. Its real easy for the pressures to get out of hand.
Not only do you endanger people inside the car but you also endanger
anyone working on or around the car. Especially anyone trying to service
the car. That compressor and condensor would go off like a grenade.
Running anything other than r12 in a r12 system or 134a in a 134a system
is nothing short of stupid.
06-01-2007, 11:07 AM
#32
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Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
In article <4660300f$0$4694$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com says...
>
> >
> > Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
> >
> > You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
> >
> > And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
> > when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
> >
>
> Mike,
> Just a little tidbit of info.
> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
> work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
> gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
> environment.
Can you find a modern car today with the fuel tank in the passenger
cabin?
Can you find fuel lines running through the passenger cabing?
Do you smoke? What happens if someone lights up a cigarette with a
evaporator leaking hc's into the cabin?
Have you seen evaporators, condensers, compressors, and the passenger
cabin after a propane a/c system explosion? Its like turning your a/c
system into an IED. Its real easy for the pressures to get out of hand.
Not only do you endanger people inside the car but you also endanger
anyone working on or around the car. Especially anyone trying to service
the car. That compressor and condensor would go off like a grenade.
Running anything other than r12 in a r12 system or 134a in a 134a system
is nothing short of stupid.
askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com says...
>
> >
> > Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
> >
> > You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
> >
> > And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
> > when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
> >
>
> Mike,
> Just a little tidbit of info.
> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
> work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
> gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
> environment.
Can you find a modern car today with the fuel tank in the passenger
cabin?
Can you find fuel lines running through the passenger cabing?
Do you smoke? What happens if someone lights up a cigarette with a
evaporator leaking hc's into the cabin?
Have you seen evaporators, condensers, compressors, and the passenger
cabin after a propane a/c system explosion? Its like turning your a/c
system into an IED. Its real easy for the pressures to get out of hand.
Not only do you endanger people inside the car but you also endanger
anyone working on or around the car. Especially anyone trying to service
the car. That compressor and condensor would go off like a grenade.
Running anything other than r12 in a r12 system or 134a in a 134a system
is nothing short of stupid.
06-01-2007, 11:07 AM
#33
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Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
In article <4660300f$0$4694$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com says...
>
> >
> > Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
> >
> > You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
> >
> > And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
> > when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
> >
>
> Mike,
> Just a little tidbit of info.
> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
> work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
> gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
> environment.
Can you find a modern car today with the fuel tank in the passenger
cabin?
Can you find fuel lines running through the passenger cabing?
Do you smoke? What happens if someone lights up a cigarette with a
evaporator leaking hc's into the cabin?
Have you seen evaporators, condensers, compressors, and the passenger
cabin after a propane a/c system explosion? Its like turning your a/c
system into an IED. Its real easy for the pressures to get out of hand.
Not only do you endanger people inside the car but you also endanger
anyone working on or around the car. Especially anyone trying to service
the car. That compressor and condensor would go off like a grenade.
Running anything other than r12 in a r12 system or 134a in a 134a system
is nothing short of stupid.
askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com says...
>
> >
> > Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
> >
> > You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
> >
> > And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
> > when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
> >
>
> Mike,
> Just a little tidbit of info.
> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
> work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
> gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
> environment.
Can you find a modern car today with the fuel tank in the passenger
cabin?
Can you find fuel lines running through the passenger cabing?
Do you smoke? What happens if someone lights up a cigarette with a
evaporator leaking hc's into the cabin?
Have you seen evaporators, condensers, compressors, and the passenger
cabin after a propane a/c system explosion? Its like turning your a/c
system into an IED. Its real easy for the pressures to get out of hand.
Not only do you endanger people inside the car but you also endanger
anyone working on or around the car. Especially anyone trying to service
the car. That compressor and condensor would go off like a grenade.
Running anything other than r12 in a r12 system or 134a in a 134a system
is nothing short of stupid.
06-01-2007, 11:08 AM
#34
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Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
Spdloader wrote:
>> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>>
>> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>>
>> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
>> when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>>
>
> Mike,
> Just a little tidbit of info.
> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
> work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
> gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
> environment.
>
> Now, that said, I love to jump on Snojob anytime he spews his nonsense, so
> I'm not getting into that, your statement just brought up an old memory.
>
> Spdloader
>
>
I was aware of how good propane is and how explosive thanks, hence my
comment.
The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems in
Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle will fill
up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of a static spark
or spark with the door light switch even and you would be BBQ ed.
Have a small leak see a static spark or a switch spark or even a radio
spark and you have a blow torch going under your dash!
That Snojob fool gives me crap abut perfectly legal and 'normal' things
and yet advocates breaking the law and using explosives in a Jeep.
Mike
>> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>>
>> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>>
>> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
>> when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>>
>
> Mike,
> Just a little tidbit of info.
> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
> work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
> gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
> environment.
>
> Now, that said, I love to jump on Snojob anytime he spews his nonsense, so
> I'm not getting into that, your statement just brought up an old memory.
>
> Spdloader
>
>
I was aware of how good propane is and how explosive thanks, hence my
comment.
The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems in
Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle will fill
up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of a static spark
or spark with the door light switch even and you would be BBQ ed.
Have a small leak see a static spark or a switch spark or even a radio
spark and you have a blow torch going under your dash!
That Snojob fool gives me crap abut perfectly legal and 'normal' things
and yet advocates breaking the law and using explosives in a Jeep.
Mike
06-01-2007, 11:08 AM
#35
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Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
Spdloader wrote:
>> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>>
>> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>>
>> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
>> when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>>
>
> Mike,
> Just a little tidbit of info.
> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
> work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
> gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
> environment.
>
> Now, that said, I love to jump on Snojob anytime he spews his nonsense, so
> I'm not getting into that, your statement just brought up an old memory.
>
> Spdloader
>
>
I was aware of how good propane is and how explosive thanks, hence my
comment.
The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems in
Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle will fill
up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of a static spark
or spark with the door light switch even and you would be BBQ ed.
Have a small leak see a static spark or a switch spark or even a radio
spark and you have a blow torch going under your dash!
That Snojob fool gives me crap abut perfectly legal and 'normal' things
and yet advocates breaking the law and using explosives in a Jeep.
Mike
>> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>>
>> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>>
>> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
>> when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>>
>
> Mike,
> Just a little tidbit of info.
> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
> work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
> gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
> environment.
>
> Now, that said, I love to jump on Snojob anytime he spews his nonsense, so
> I'm not getting into that, your statement just brought up an old memory.
>
> Spdloader
>
>
I was aware of how good propane is and how explosive thanks, hence my
comment.
The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems in
Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle will fill
up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of a static spark
or spark with the door light switch even and you would be BBQ ed.
Have a small leak see a static spark or a switch spark or even a radio
spark and you have a blow torch going under your dash!
That Snojob fool gives me crap abut perfectly legal and 'normal' things
and yet advocates breaking the law and using explosives in a Jeep.
Mike
06-01-2007, 11:08 AM
#36
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Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
Spdloader wrote:
>> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>>
>> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>>
>> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
>> when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>>
>
> Mike,
> Just a little tidbit of info.
> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
> work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
> gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
> environment.
>
> Now, that said, I love to jump on Snojob anytime he spews his nonsense, so
> I'm not getting into that, your statement just brought up an old memory.
>
> Spdloader
>
>
I was aware of how good propane is and how explosive thanks, hence my
comment.
The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems in
Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle will fill
up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of a static spark
or spark with the door light switch even and you would be BBQ ed.
Have a small leak see a static spark or a switch spark or even a radio
spark and you have a blow torch going under your dash!
That Snojob fool gives me crap abut perfectly legal and 'normal' things
and yet advocates breaking the law and using explosives in a Jeep.
Mike
>> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>>
>> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>>
>> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
>> when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>>
>
> Mike,
> Just a little tidbit of info.
> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
> work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
> gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
> environment.
>
> Now, that said, I love to jump on Snojob anytime he spews his nonsense, so
> I'm not getting into that, your statement just brought up an old memory.
>
> Spdloader
>
>
I was aware of how good propane is and how explosive thanks, hence my
comment.
The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems in
Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle will fill
up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of a static spark
or spark with the door light switch even and you would be BBQ ed.
Have a small leak see a static spark or a switch spark or even a radio
spark and you have a blow torch going under your dash!
That Snojob fool gives me crap abut perfectly legal and 'normal' things
and yet advocates breaking the law and using explosives in a Jeep.
Mike
06-01-2007, 11:08 AM
#37
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Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
Spdloader wrote:
>> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>>
>> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>>
>> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
>> when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>>
>
> Mike,
> Just a little tidbit of info.
> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
> work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
> gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
> environment.
>
> Now, that said, I love to jump on Snojob anytime he spews his nonsense, so
> I'm not getting into that, your statement just brought up an old memory.
>
> Spdloader
>
>
I was aware of how good propane is and how explosive thanks, hence my
comment.
The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems in
Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle will fill
up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of a static spark
or spark with the door light switch even and you would be BBQ ed.
Have a small leak see a static spark or a switch spark or even a radio
spark and you have a blow torch going under your dash!
That Snojob fool gives me crap abut perfectly legal and 'normal' things
and yet advocates breaking the law and using explosives in a Jeep.
Mike
>> Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
>>
>> You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
>>
>> And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
>> when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
>>
>
> Mike,
> Just a little tidbit of info.
> When I was in A/C school sponsored by Toyota in the mid-80's, we made A/C
> work with a number of things you wouldn't normally use as refrigerants.
> Propane was among them, and the best of all of them.
> Would it be dangerous? Who knows. Probably. But there's already pressurized
> gasoline under the hood of most vehicles, so it's already a dangerous
> environment.
>
> Now, that said, I love to jump on Snojob anytime he spews his nonsense, so
> I'm not getting into that, your statement just brought up an old memory.
>
> Spdloader
>
>
I was aware of how good propane is and how explosive thanks, hence my
comment.
The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems in
Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle will fill
up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of a static spark
or spark with the door light switch even and you would be BBQ ed.
Have a small leak see a static spark or a switch spark or even a radio
spark and you have a blow torch going under your dash!
That Snojob fool gives me crap abut perfectly legal and 'normal' things
and yet advocates breaking the law and using explosives in a Jeep.
Mike
06-01-2007, 11:10 AM
#38
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Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems
> in Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle
> will fill up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of
> a static spark or spark with the door light switch even and you
> would be BBQ ed.
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> The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems
> in Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle
> will fill up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of
> a static spark or spark with the door light switch even and you
> would be BBQ ed.
See? "They" said smoking was dangerous! ;)
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06-01-2007, 11:10 AM
#39
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Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems
> in Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle
> will fill up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of
> a static spark or spark with the door light switch even and you
> would be BBQ ed.
See? "They" said smoking was dangerous! ;)
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> The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems
> in Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle
> will fill up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of
> a static spark or spark with the door light switch even and you
> would be BBQ ed.
See? "They" said smoking was dangerous! ;)
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06-01-2007, 11:10 AM
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Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems
> in Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle
> will fill up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of
> a static spark or spark with the door light switch even and you
> would be BBQ ed.
See? "They" said smoking was dangerous! ;)
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> The 'big' issue is that a 'very' 'very' common leak for AC systems
> in Jeeps is in the unit under the dash so the cab of the vehicle
> will fill up with the flammable gas. Light a cigarette or set of
> a static spark or spark with the door light switch even and you
> would be BBQ ed.
See? "They" said smoking was dangerous! ;)
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