I need R-12
06-01-2007, 01:49 AM
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Re: I need R-12
You got a thousand dollars? http://www.----------.com/R12.jpg
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> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.
>
>
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"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.
>
>
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06-01-2007, 01:49 AM
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Re: I need R-12
You got a thousand dollars? http://www.----------.com/R12.jpg
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"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.
>
>
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"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.
>
>
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06-01-2007, 01:49 AM
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Re: I need R-12
You got a thousand dollars? http://www.----------.com/R12.jpg
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"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.
>
>
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"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.
>
>
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06-01-2007, 08:35 AM
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Re: Re: I need R-12
On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:16:24 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:
>Most auto repair places will have R-12, you can't buy it yourself
>unless you're licensed, see below.
If you read the fine print, the law is kinda funny in that you can buy
it to resell it without a licence but you cannot legally buy it to
consume/use it. Also it more lax with 30 lb bottles than cans. I would
suggest you try R12a. It is extremely popular in Austrialia were
Dupont (who owns 134a patent) has little clout. It cools better than
even R12 and a lot better than R134. It is based on isobutane which
is flamable but there is not oxygen in system with it so it cannot
burn and any possible fire from a leak would be limited because of the
small amout present and BTU heat energy in that amount in AC system is
a lot less than 1% of the amount of stored heat/fire energy in a fuel
tank. You have far more to worry from about fuel tank in a wreck than
isobutane in AC. Also, plain old propane works really well too. One
more nice thing about R12a and Propane is that it binds fine to
mineral oil used in R12 systems so there is not problems unlike R134
conversions which require a oil to be added to system to bind the
mineral oil to R134a so it can be circulated through system. The
problem is that unless this a a new system or one that has had a
component change so that some system total oil volume is removed, the
added oil adds a protential overcharge of oil in system.
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TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>Most auto repair places will have R-12, you can't buy it yourself
>unless you're licensed, see below.
If you read the fine print, the law is kinda funny in that you can buy
it to resell it without a licence but you cannot legally buy it to
consume/use it. Also it more lax with 30 lb bottles than cans. I would
suggest you try R12a. It is extremely popular in Austrialia were
Dupont (who owns 134a patent) has little clout. It cools better than
even R12 and a lot better than R134. It is based on isobutane which
is flamable but there is not oxygen in system with it so it cannot
burn and any possible fire from a leak would be limited because of the
small amout present and BTU heat energy in that amount in AC system is
a lot less than 1% of the amount of stored heat/fire energy in a fuel
tank. You have far more to worry from about fuel tank in a wreck than
isobutane in AC. Also, plain old propane works really well too. One
more nice thing about R12a and Propane is that it binds fine to
mineral oil used in R12 systems so there is not problems unlike R134
conversions which require a oil to be added to system to bind the
mineral oil to R134a so it can be circulated through system. The
problem is that unless this a a new system or one that has had a
component change so that some system total oil volume is removed, the
added oil adds a protential overcharge of oil in system.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-01-2007, 08:35 AM
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Re: Re: I need R-12
On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:16:24 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:
>Most auto repair places will have R-12, you can't buy it yourself
>unless you're licensed, see below.
If you read the fine print, the law is kinda funny in that you can buy
it to resell it without a licence but you cannot legally buy it to
consume/use it. Also it more lax with 30 lb bottles than cans. I would
suggest you try R12a. It is extremely popular in Austrialia were
Dupont (who owns 134a patent) has little clout. It cools better than
even R12 and a lot better than R134. It is based on isobutane which
is flamable but there is not oxygen in system with it so it cannot
burn and any possible fire from a leak would be limited because of the
small amout present and BTU heat energy in that amount in AC system is
a lot less than 1% of the amount of stored heat/fire energy in a fuel
tank. You have far more to worry from about fuel tank in a wreck than
isobutane in AC. Also, plain old propane works really well too. One
more nice thing about R12a and Propane is that it binds fine to
mineral oil used in R12 systems so there is not problems unlike R134
conversions which require a oil to be added to system to bind the
mineral oil to R134a so it can be circulated through system. The
problem is that unless this a a new system or one that has had a
component change so that some system total oil volume is removed, the
added oil adds a protential overcharge of oil in system.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>Most auto repair places will have R-12, you can't buy it yourself
>unless you're licensed, see below.
If you read the fine print, the law is kinda funny in that you can buy
it to resell it without a licence but you cannot legally buy it to
consume/use it. Also it more lax with 30 lb bottles than cans. I would
suggest you try R12a. It is extremely popular in Austrialia were
Dupont (who owns 134a patent) has little clout. It cools better than
even R12 and a lot better than R134. It is based on isobutane which
is flamable but there is not oxygen in system with it so it cannot
burn and any possible fire from a leak would be limited because of the
small amout present and BTU heat energy in that amount in AC system is
a lot less than 1% of the amount of stored heat/fire energy in a fuel
tank. You have far more to worry from about fuel tank in a wreck than
isobutane in AC. Also, plain old propane works really well too. One
more nice thing about R12a and Propane is that it binds fine to
mineral oil used in R12 systems so there is not problems unlike R134
conversions which require a oil to be added to system to bind the
mineral oil to R134a so it can be circulated through system. The
problem is that unless this a a new system or one that has had a
component change so that some system total oil volume is removed, the
added oil adds a protential overcharge of oil in system.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-01-2007, 08:35 AM
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Re: Re: I need R-12
On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:16:24 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:
>Most auto repair places will have R-12, you can't buy it yourself
>unless you're licensed, see below.
If you read the fine print, the law is kinda funny in that you can buy
it to resell it without a licence but you cannot legally buy it to
consume/use it. Also it more lax with 30 lb bottles than cans. I would
suggest you try R12a. It is extremely popular in Austrialia were
Dupont (who owns 134a patent) has little clout. It cools better than
even R12 and a lot better than R134. It is based on isobutane which
is flamable but there is not oxygen in system with it so it cannot
burn and any possible fire from a leak would be limited because of the
small amout present and BTU heat energy in that amount in AC system is
a lot less than 1% of the amount of stored heat/fire energy in a fuel
tank. You have far more to worry from about fuel tank in a wreck than
isobutane in AC. Also, plain old propane works really well too. One
more nice thing about R12a and Propane is that it binds fine to
mineral oil used in R12 systems so there is not problems unlike R134
conversions which require a oil to be added to system to bind the
mineral oil to R134a so it can be circulated through system. The
problem is that unless this a a new system or one that has had a
component change so that some system total oil volume is removed, the
added oil adds a protential overcharge of oil in system.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>Most auto repair places will have R-12, you can't buy it yourself
>unless you're licensed, see below.
If you read the fine print, the law is kinda funny in that you can buy
it to resell it without a licence but you cannot legally buy it to
consume/use it. Also it more lax with 30 lb bottles than cans. I would
suggest you try R12a. It is extremely popular in Austrialia were
Dupont (who owns 134a patent) has little clout. It cools better than
even R12 and a lot better than R134. It is based on isobutane which
is flamable but there is not oxygen in system with it so it cannot
burn and any possible fire from a leak would be limited because of the
small amout present and BTU heat energy in that amount in AC system is
a lot less than 1% of the amount of stored heat/fire energy in a fuel
tank. You have far more to worry from about fuel tank in a wreck than
isobutane in AC. Also, plain old propane works really well too. One
more nice thing about R12a and Propane is that it binds fine to
mineral oil used in R12 systems so there is not problems unlike R134
conversions which require a oil to be added to system to bind the
mineral oil to R134a so it can be circulated through system. The
problem is that unless this a a new system or one that has had a
component change so that some system total oil volume is removed, the
added oil adds a protential overcharge of oil in system.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-01-2007, 08:35 AM
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Re: Re: I need R-12
On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:16:24 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:
>Most auto repair places will have R-12, you can't buy it yourself
>unless you're licensed, see below.
If you read the fine print, the law is kinda funny in that you can buy
it to resell it without a licence but you cannot legally buy it to
consume/use it. Also it more lax with 30 lb bottles than cans. I would
suggest you try R12a. It is extremely popular in Austrialia were
Dupont (who owns 134a patent) has little clout. It cools better than
even R12 and a lot better than R134. It is based on isobutane which
is flamable but there is not oxygen in system with it so it cannot
burn and any possible fire from a leak would be limited because of the
small amout present and BTU heat energy in that amount in AC system is
a lot less than 1% of the amount of stored heat/fire energy in a fuel
tank. You have far more to worry from about fuel tank in a wreck than
isobutane in AC. Also, plain old propane works really well too. One
more nice thing about R12a and Propane is that it binds fine to
mineral oil used in R12 systems so there is not problems unlike R134
conversions which require a oil to be added to system to bind the
mineral oil to R134a so it can be circulated through system. The
problem is that unless this a a new system or one that has had a
component change so that some system total oil volume is removed, the
added oil adds a protential overcharge of oil in system.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>Most auto repair places will have R-12, you can't buy it yourself
>unless you're licensed, see below.
If you read the fine print, the law is kinda funny in that you can buy
it to resell it without a licence but you cannot legally buy it to
consume/use it. Also it more lax with 30 lb bottles than cans. I would
suggest you try R12a. It is extremely popular in Austrialia were
Dupont (who owns 134a patent) has little clout. It cools better than
even R12 and a lot better than R134. It is based on isobutane which
is flamable but there is not oxygen in system with it so it cannot
burn and any possible fire from a leak would be limited because of the
small amout present and BTU heat energy in that amount in AC system is
a lot less than 1% of the amount of stored heat/fire energy in a fuel
tank. You have far more to worry from about fuel tank in a wreck than
isobutane in AC. Also, plain old propane works really well too. One
more nice thing about R12a and Propane is that it binds fine to
mineral oil used in R12 systems so there is not problems unlike R134
conversions which require a oil to be added to system to bind the
mineral oil to R134a so it can be circulated through system. The
problem is that unless this a a new system or one that has had a
component change so that some system total oil volume is removed, the
added oil adds a protential overcharge of oil in system.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-01-2007, 10:01 AM
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Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
SnoMan wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:16:24 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Most auto repair places will have R-12, you can't buy it yourself
>> unless you're licensed, see below.
>
> I would suggest you try R12a. It is extremely popular in Austrialia were
> Dupont (who owns 134a patent) has little clout. It is based on isobutane which
> is flamable but there is not oxygen in system with it so it cannot
> burn and any possible fire from a leak would be limited.
Yo SnoJob, another of your seriously mentally deficient statements.
Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
You are 'soo' far out in space.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:16:24 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Most auto repair places will have R-12, you can't buy it yourself
>> unless you're licensed, see below.
>
> I would suggest you try R12a. It is extremely popular in Austrialia were
> Dupont (who owns 134a patent) has little clout. It is based on isobutane which
> is flamable but there is not oxygen in system with it so it cannot
> burn and any possible fire from a leak would be limited.
Yo SnoJob, another of your seriously mentally deficient statements.
Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
You are 'soo' far out in space.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
06-01-2007, 10:01 AM
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Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
SnoMan wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:16:24 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Most auto repair places will have R-12, you can't buy it yourself
>> unless you're licensed, see below.
>
> I would suggest you try R12a. It is extremely popular in Austrialia were
> Dupont (who owns 134a patent) has little clout. It is based on isobutane which
> is flamable but there is not oxygen in system with it so it cannot
> burn and any possible fire from a leak would be limited.
Yo SnoJob, another of your seriously mentally deficient statements.
Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
You are 'soo' far out in space.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:16:24 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Most auto repair places will have R-12, you can't buy it yourself
>> unless you're licensed, see below.
>
> I would suggest you try R12a. It is extremely popular in Austrialia were
> Dupont (who owns 134a patent) has little clout. It is based on isobutane which
> is flamable but there is not oxygen in system with it so it cannot
> burn and any possible fire from a leak would be limited.
Yo SnoJob, another of your seriously mentally deficient statements.
Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
You are 'soo' far out in space.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
06-01-2007, 10:01 AM
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Re: I need R-12= WARNING DEADLY ADVICE INSIDE!
SnoMan wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:16:24 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Most auto repair places will have R-12, you can't buy it yourself
>> unless you're licensed, see below.
>
> I would suggest you try R12a. It is extremely popular in Austrialia were
> Dupont (who owns 134a patent) has little clout. It is based on isobutane which
> is flamable but there is not oxygen in system with it so it cannot
> burn and any possible fire from a leak would be limited.
Yo SnoJob, another of your seriously mentally deficient statements.
Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
You are 'soo' far out in space.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:16:24 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Most auto repair places will have R-12, you can't buy it yourself
>> unless you're licensed, see below.
>
> I would suggest you try R12a. It is extremely popular in Austrialia were
> Dupont (who owns 134a patent) has little clout. It is based on isobutane which
> is flamable but there is not oxygen in system with it so it cannot
> burn and any possible fire from a leak would be limited.
Yo SnoJob, another of your seriously mentally deficient statements.
Why not just tell him to fill it with freaking propane?
You are once AGAIN giving life threatening advice in a public place!
And 'you' have the nerve to call me on total -------- about pool lights
when you advocate an explosive gas in the AC?
You are 'soo' far out in space.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)