I need R-12
06-03-2007, 10:16 PM
#251
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Re: I need R-12
Hey Jeff
I like Art Bell and George Noorie as much as anyone else. But wasn't
Dupont the company that invented nylon rope. Suddenly, every farmer
who was required by law to grow hemp became a criminal overnight if
they didn't destroy their hemp crop immediately.
Conspiracy?
Merrill
On Jun 1, 8:45 pm, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> SNORT! Yeah, there is a reason it's illegal alright, Duponts patent ran
> out so anyone could make the stuff, that's why it was so cheap. So this
> scare got cooked up that Freon was destroying the planet and it got
> banned and replaced by another Dupont product with a fresh patent.
>
> Around the time that patent runs out we'll see them start to ban 134a
> and require the use of yet another refrigerant.
>
> I'm no fan of conspiracy theories but I believe this one.
>
> Jeff DeWitt- Hide quoted text -
I like Art Bell and George Noorie as much as anyone else. But wasn't
Dupont the company that invented nylon rope. Suddenly, every farmer
who was required by law to grow hemp became a criminal overnight if
they didn't destroy their hemp crop immediately.
Conspiracy?
Merrill
On Jun 1, 8:45 pm, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> SNORT! Yeah, there is a reason it's illegal alright, Duponts patent ran
> out so anyone could make the stuff, that's why it was so cheap. So this
> scare got cooked up that Freon was destroying the planet and it got
> banned and replaced by another Dupont product with a fresh patent.
>
> Around the time that patent runs out we'll see them start to ban 134a
> and require the use of yet another refrigerant.
>
> I'm no fan of conspiracy theories but I believe this one.
>
> Jeff DeWitt- Hide quoted text -
06-03-2007, 10:16 PM
#252
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Re: I need R-12
Hey Jeff
I like Art Bell and George Noorie as much as anyone else. But wasn't
Dupont the company that invented nylon rope. Suddenly, every farmer
who was required by law to grow hemp became a criminal overnight if
they didn't destroy their hemp crop immediately.
Conspiracy?
Merrill
On Jun 1, 8:45 pm, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> SNORT! Yeah, there is a reason it's illegal alright, Duponts patent ran
> out so anyone could make the stuff, that's why it was so cheap. So this
> scare got cooked up that Freon was destroying the planet and it got
> banned and replaced by another Dupont product with a fresh patent.
>
> Around the time that patent runs out we'll see them start to ban 134a
> and require the use of yet another refrigerant.
>
> I'm no fan of conspiracy theories but I believe this one.
>
> Jeff DeWitt- Hide quoted text -
I like Art Bell and George Noorie as much as anyone else. But wasn't
Dupont the company that invented nylon rope. Suddenly, every farmer
who was required by law to grow hemp became a criminal overnight if
they didn't destroy their hemp crop immediately.
Conspiracy?
Merrill
On Jun 1, 8:45 pm, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> SNORT! Yeah, there is a reason it's illegal alright, Duponts patent ran
> out so anyone could make the stuff, that's why it was so cheap. So this
> scare got cooked up that Freon was destroying the planet and it got
> banned and replaced by another Dupont product with a fresh patent.
>
> Around the time that patent runs out we'll see them start to ban 134a
> and require the use of yet another refrigerant.
>
> I'm no fan of conspiracy theories but I believe this one.
>
> Jeff DeWitt- Hide quoted text -
06-03-2007, 10:16 PM
#253
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Re: I need R-12
Hey Jeff
I like Art Bell and George Noorie as much as anyone else. But wasn't
Dupont the company that invented nylon rope. Suddenly, every farmer
who was required by law to grow hemp became a criminal overnight if
they didn't destroy their hemp crop immediately.
Conspiracy?
Merrill
On Jun 1, 8:45 pm, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> SNORT! Yeah, there is a reason it's illegal alright, Duponts patent ran
> out so anyone could make the stuff, that's why it was so cheap. So this
> scare got cooked up that Freon was destroying the planet and it got
> banned and replaced by another Dupont product with a fresh patent.
>
> Around the time that patent runs out we'll see them start to ban 134a
> and require the use of yet another refrigerant.
>
> I'm no fan of conspiracy theories but I believe this one.
>
> Jeff DeWitt- Hide quoted text -
I like Art Bell and George Noorie as much as anyone else. But wasn't
Dupont the company that invented nylon rope. Suddenly, every farmer
who was required by law to grow hemp became a criminal overnight if
they didn't destroy their hemp crop immediately.
Conspiracy?
Merrill
On Jun 1, 8:45 pm, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> SNORT! Yeah, there is a reason it's illegal alright, Duponts patent ran
> out so anyone could make the stuff, that's why it was so cheap. So this
> scare got cooked up that Freon was destroying the planet and it got
> banned and replaced by another Dupont product with a fresh patent.
>
> Around the time that patent runs out we'll see them start to ban 134a
> and require the use of yet another refrigerant.
>
> I'm no fan of conspiracy theories but I believe this one.
>
> Jeff DeWitt- Hide quoted text -
06-04-2007, 09:40 PM
#254
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Re: I need R-12
We were always taught it was the tobacco companies, trying to kill the
competition.
Not that hemp aka ditch weed is worth the match.
merrill proclaimed:
> Hey Jeff
>
> I like Art Bell and George Noorie as much as anyone else. But wasn't
> Dupont the company that invented nylon rope. Suddenly, every farmer
> who was required by law to grow hemp became a criminal overnight if
> they didn't destroy their hemp crop immediately.
>
> Conspiracy?
>
> Merrill
>
>
> On Jun 1, 8:45 pm, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>SNORT! Yeah, there is a reason it's illegal alright, Duponts patent ran
>>out so anyone could make the stuff, that's why it was so cheap. So this
>>scare got cooked up that Freon was destroying the planet and it got
>>banned and replaced by another Dupont product with a fresh patent.
>>
>>Around the time that patent runs out we'll see them start to ban 134a
>>and require the use of yet another refrigerant.
>>
>>I'm no fan of conspiracy theories but I believe this one.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt- Hide quoted text -
>
>
competition.
Not that hemp aka ditch weed is worth the match.
merrill proclaimed:
> Hey Jeff
>
> I like Art Bell and George Noorie as much as anyone else. But wasn't
> Dupont the company that invented nylon rope. Suddenly, every farmer
> who was required by law to grow hemp became a criminal overnight if
> they didn't destroy their hemp crop immediately.
>
> Conspiracy?
>
> Merrill
>
>
> On Jun 1, 8:45 pm, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>SNORT! Yeah, there is a reason it's illegal alright, Duponts patent ran
>>out so anyone could make the stuff, that's why it was so cheap. So this
>>scare got cooked up that Freon was destroying the planet and it got
>>banned and replaced by another Dupont product with a fresh patent.
>>
>>Around the time that patent runs out we'll see them start to ban 134a
>>and require the use of yet another refrigerant.
>>
>>I'm no fan of conspiracy theories but I believe this one.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt- Hide quoted text -
>
>
06-04-2007, 09:40 PM
#255
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Posts: n/a
Re: I need R-12
We were always taught it was the tobacco companies, trying to kill the
competition.
Not that hemp aka ditch weed is worth the match.
merrill proclaimed:
> Hey Jeff
>
> I like Art Bell and George Noorie as much as anyone else. But wasn't
> Dupont the company that invented nylon rope. Suddenly, every farmer
> who was required by law to grow hemp became a criminal overnight if
> they didn't destroy their hemp crop immediately.
>
> Conspiracy?
>
> Merrill
>
>
> On Jun 1, 8:45 pm, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>SNORT! Yeah, there is a reason it's illegal alright, Duponts patent ran
>>out so anyone could make the stuff, that's why it was so cheap. So this
>>scare got cooked up that Freon was destroying the planet and it got
>>banned and replaced by another Dupont product with a fresh patent.
>>
>>Around the time that patent runs out we'll see them start to ban 134a
>>and require the use of yet another refrigerant.
>>
>>I'm no fan of conspiracy theories but I believe this one.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt- Hide quoted text -
>
>
competition.
Not that hemp aka ditch weed is worth the match.
merrill proclaimed:
> Hey Jeff
>
> I like Art Bell and George Noorie as much as anyone else. But wasn't
> Dupont the company that invented nylon rope. Suddenly, every farmer
> who was required by law to grow hemp became a criminal overnight if
> they didn't destroy their hemp crop immediately.
>
> Conspiracy?
>
> Merrill
>
>
> On Jun 1, 8:45 pm, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>SNORT! Yeah, there is a reason it's illegal alright, Duponts patent ran
>>out so anyone could make the stuff, that's why it was so cheap. So this
>>scare got cooked up that Freon was destroying the planet and it got
>>banned and replaced by another Dupont product with a fresh patent.
>>
>>Around the time that patent runs out we'll see them start to ban 134a
>>and require the use of yet another refrigerant.
>>
>>I'm no fan of conspiracy theories but I believe this one.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt- Hide quoted text -
>
>
06-04-2007, 09:40 PM
#256
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Re: I need R-12
We were always taught it was the tobacco companies, trying to kill the
competition.
Not that hemp aka ditch weed is worth the match.
merrill proclaimed:
> Hey Jeff
>
> I like Art Bell and George Noorie as much as anyone else. But wasn't
> Dupont the company that invented nylon rope. Suddenly, every farmer
> who was required by law to grow hemp became a criminal overnight if
> they didn't destroy their hemp crop immediately.
>
> Conspiracy?
>
> Merrill
>
>
> On Jun 1, 8:45 pm, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>SNORT! Yeah, there is a reason it's illegal alright, Duponts patent ran
>>out so anyone could make the stuff, that's why it was so cheap. So this
>>scare got cooked up that Freon was destroying the planet and it got
>>banned and replaced by another Dupont product with a fresh patent.
>>
>>Around the time that patent runs out we'll see them start to ban 134a
>>and require the use of yet another refrigerant.
>>
>>I'm no fan of conspiracy theories but I believe this one.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt- Hide quoted text -
>
>
competition.
Not that hemp aka ditch weed is worth the match.
merrill proclaimed:
> Hey Jeff
>
> I like Art Bell and George Noorie as much as anyone else. But wasn't
> Dupont the company that invented nylon rope. Suddenly, every farmer
> who was required by law to grow hemp became a criminal overnight if
> they didn't destroy their hemp crop immediately.
>
> Conspiracy?
>
> Merrill
>
>
> On Jun 1, 8:45 pm, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>SNORT! Yeah, there is a reason it's illegal alright, Duponts patent ran
>>out so anyone could make the stuff, that's why it was so cheap. So this
>>scare got cooked up that Freon was destroying the planet and it got
>>banned and replaced by another Dupont product with a fresh patent.
>>
>>Around the time that patent runs out we'll see them start to ban 134a
>>and require the use of yet another refrigerant.
>>
>>I'm no fan of conspiracy theories but I believe this one.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt- Hide quoted text -
>
>
06-04-2007, 09:40 PM
#257
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Re: I need R-12
We were always taught it was the tobacco companies, trying to kill the
competition.
Not that hemp aka ditch weed is worth the match.
merrill proclaimed:
> Hey Jeff
>
> I like Art Bell and George Noorie as much as anyone else. But wasn't
> Dupont the company that invented nylon rope. Suddenly, every farmer
> who was required by law to grow hemp became a criminal overnight if
> they didn't destroy their hemp crop immediately.
>
> Conspiracy?
>
> Merrill
>
>
> On Jun 1, 8:45 pm, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>SNORT! Yeah, there is a reason it's illegal alright, Duponts patent ran
>>out so anyone could make the stuff, that's why it was so cheap. So this
>>scare got cooked up that Freon was destroying the planet and it got
>>banned and replaced by another Dupont product with a fresh patent.
>>
>>Around the time that patent runs out we'll see them start to ban 134a
>>and require the use of yet another refrigerant.
>>
>>I'm no fan of conspiracy theories but I believe this one.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt- Hide quoted text -
>
>
competition.
Not that hemp aka ditch weed is worth the match.
merrill proclaimed:
> Hey Jeff
>
> I like Art Bell and George Noorie as much as anyone else. But wasn't
> Dupont the company that invented nylon rope. Suddenly, every farmer
> who was required by law to grow hemp became a criminal overnight if
> they didn't destroy their hemp crop immediately.
>
> Conspiracy?
>
> Merrill
>
>
> On Jun 1, 8:45 pm, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>SNORT! Yeah, there is a reason it's illegal alright, Duponts patent ran
>>out so anyone could make the stuff, that's why it was so cheap. So this
>>scare got cooked up that Freon was destroying the planet and it got
>>banned and replaced by another Dupont product with a fresh patent.
>>
>>Around the time that patent runs out we'll see them start to ban 134a
>>and require the use of yet another refrigerant.
>>
>>I'm no fan of conspiracy theories but I believe this one.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt- Hide quoted text -
>
>
06-05-2007, 07:00 PM
#258
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Re: I need R-12
On 2007-06-02, RSMuddog <u34723@uwe> wrote:
> than others with their cooling capacities, and then there are those that are
> toxic and flamable. A ideal refrigerant has low toxicity and low flamability.
> Propane is neither, but has good refrigerant capacity.
Propane is toxic? AFAICT it's no more toxic than good ol' Nitrogen. I'm
having trouble finding an MSDS whose toxicology section says it is more
than an asphyxiant, or that the liquid can boil on your skin and cause
frostbite.
I'd still be wary of using it in an A/C because of the flamability and
possibly increased pressures.
Ivan
> than others with their cooling capacities, and then there are those that are
> toxic and flamable. A ideal refrigerant has low toxicity and low flamability.
> Propane is neither, but has good refrigerant capacity.
Propane is toxic? AFAICT it's no more toxic than good ol' Nitrogen. I'm
having trouble finding an MSDS whose toxicology section says it is more
than an asphyxiant, or that the liquid can boil on your skin and cause
frostbite.
I'd still be wary of using it in an A/C because of the flamability and
possibly increased pressures.
Ivan
06-05-2007, 07:00 PM
#259
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Re: I need R-12
On 2007-06-02, RSMuddog <u34723@uwe> wrote:
> than others with their cooling capacities, and then there are those that are
> toxic and flamable. A ideal refrigerant has low toxicity and low flamability.
> Propane is neither, but has good refrigerant capacity.
Propane is toxic? AFAICT it's no more toxic than good ol' Nitrogen. I'm
having trouble finding an MSDS whose toxicology section says it is more
than an asphyxiant, or that the liquid can boil on your skin and cause
frostbite.
I'd still be wary of using it in an A/C because of the flamability and
possibly increased pressures.
Ivan
> than others with their cooling capacities, and then there are those that are
> toxic and flamable. A ideal refrigerant has low toxicity and low flamability.
> Propane is neither, but has good refrigerant capacity.
Propane is toxic? AFAICT it's no more toxic than good ol' Nitrogen. I'm
having trouble finding an MSDS whose toxicology section says it is more
than an asphyxiant, or that the liquid can boil on your skin and cause
frostbite.
I'd still be wary of using it in an A/C because of the flamability and
possibly increased pressures.
Ivan
06-05-2007, 07:00 PM
#260
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Re: I need R-12
On 2007-06-02, RSMuddog <u34723@uwe> wrote:
> than others with their cooling capacities, and then there are those that are
> toxic and flamable. A ideal refrigerant has low toxicity and low flamability.
> Propane is neither, but has good refrigerant capacity.
Propane is toxic? AFAICT it's no more toxic than good ol' Nitrogen. I'm
having trouble finding an MSDS whose toxicology section says it is more
than an asphyxiant, or that the liquid can boil on your skin and cause
frostbite.
I'd still be wary of using it in an A/C because of the flamability and
possibly increased pressures.
Ivan
> than others with their cooling capacities, and then there are those that are
> toxic and flamable. A ideal refrigerant has low toxicity and low flamability.
> Propane is neither, but has good refrigerant capacity.
Propane is toxic? AFAICT it's no more toxic than good ol' Nitrogen. I'm
having trouble finding an MSDS whose toxicology section says it is more
than an asphyxiant, or that the liquid can boil on your skin and cause
frostbite.
I'd still be wary of using it in an A/C because of the flamability and
possibly increased pressures.
Ivan