Jeff Strickland

"John" <here@there.com> wrote in message
news:477d68a1$0$28846$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Jeff,
> You're absolutely right but you have the power to fix the problem. About
> two months ago I learned about killfile/filter. I set up a rule on my
> newsgroup reader that filtered out Bill ------ and a couple of others and
> now I only see useful information. So far so good as none of the Bill
> ------ messages come through my reader and it has really cleaned up my
> inbox and sanity.
>
> This --- guy is a different story. He knows how to beat filtering by
> changing the --- subject line and my inbox is flooded with his psychotic
> babble. I only hope Bill doesn't try this, otherwise this group will
> surely be lost.
>


I agree with you, but the idiots that are not Bill also change their name to
get past the filter(s).

Bill is a responder to the idiots. If he would not respond to them, then all
we would see from his would be useful links and not so useful links. I can't
recall ever seeing him start one of these flame wars, he just carries them
on and on and on and on and on and on ...

I set up a filter on '5 5' `5 5` -5 I5 5- and other iterations of 5 in the
Subject Line. I finally just filtered on 5. This works okay, except there
are valid reasons to use 5 in a sentence, and I'm going to filter them now.

I tried to Block Sender, but that doesn't work.

DougW

Jeff Strickland wrote:

> I set up a filter on '5 5' `5 5` -5 I5 5- and other iterations of 5
> in the Subject Line. I finally just filtered on 5. This works okay,
> except there are valid reasons to use 5 in a sentence, and I'm going
> to filter them now.
> I tried to Block Sender, but that doesn't work.

Since your using OE to read there arn't may easy options.
However, nFilter might be enough. http://www.nfilter.org/
It can filter on crossposts and that tends to squelch a lot
of the noise. To get more than that you almost have to use
Hamster or Hamster Playground and run your own news spool.
(not for the shy of bandwidth)
http://www.elbiah.de/hamster/doc/index.htm

I use hamster, but not for this group yet.

--
DougW

Greg

There isn't much on this group when you filter out all the garbage, I have
respected Bill and all his mass of info over the last 4 years I've had my
jeep, but after filtering all the other idiots all I am left with is a
couple posts a day and Bill's 50 replies to the idiots, so sorry Bill you
have now been added to my killfile, I held off thinking maybe if enough
regulars kept telling you to stop encuraging the idiots, that you would, but
after 6 months or more I guess that isn't going to happen, have a happy net
life with your idiot tribe, as no-one else will be seeing it.

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:B9cfj.3275$Je6.2966@trnddc01...
> Today, 01/03/08, I opened the newsgroup to 211 new messages. There were
> two or three replies to the clutch issue where the OP says he installed a
> box full of parts on a 4-banger CJ clutch, and the pedal does not work; a
> spammer post from the GPS salesman; another spammer passing out bogus $5
> bills; and 206 posts where the topic and discussion is, am to, am not, am
> too, am not, etc. ad neasum.
>
> TO BILL ------
> Stop talking to these idiots. You are wasting time, energy, and space.
> They have learned how to pull your crank, and you encourage them to pull
> it.
>
> TO THE IDIOTS
> Go pull your own crank, or sit in a circle ant take turns pulling each
> other's crank, I really don't care.
>
> No matter what Bill is, you are far more stupid. None of you guys ever,
> that's E-V-E-R, have anything useful to say pursuant to any topic that is
> posted. When somebody asks, why doesn't the clutch work? and your relpy
> is, Bill is a jerk, then you are really not adding anything of value to
> the discussion.
>
> TO ALL OF YOU
> You idiots, and Bill, have managed to ---- it up for the rest of us. There
> are only 3 rules in life, you gotta be happy, you gotta have fun, and you
> can't ---- it up for anybody else. You might be happy, clearly you are
> having fun, but you violate rule #3, you are ------- it up for everybody
> else.
>
> Looks like I gotta dust off the Killfile because it has become clear to me
> that none of you are going to grow a brain anytime soon. It's sad really
> that grown men can't figure out a way to ignore each other -- I fault Bill
> the most on this point.
>
>
>

J White

Personally, I would have to blame Bill for every bit of this idiocy.
Bill does indeed have quite a collection of decent information that he is
happy to share with the group but woe to anyone that disagreed or dared to
offer a different view point. There was never any room for polite,
thoughtful discussion. It was always his way or else. He finally ran across
someone that wouldn't put up with the crap and are more than happy to hand
it back in spades.
Bill kicked over this sh*tpile all by himself. Will it ever end? Probably
not, these guys are more alike than they are different. Sad. It used to be a
great group.


"Rod's SHAW" <rod.gram@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:i0efj.386$EA5.122@pd7urf2no...
>
> "John" <here@there.com> wrote in message
> news:477d68a1$0$28846$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Jeff,
>> You're absolutely right but you have the power to fix the problem. About
>> two months ago I learned about killfile/filter. I set up a rule on my
>> newsgroup reader that filtered out Bill ------ and a couple of others and
>> now I only see useful information. So far so good as none of the Bill
>> ------ messages come through my reader and it has really cleaned up my
>> inbox and sanity.
>>
>> This --- guy is a different story. He knows how to beat filtering by
>> changing the --- subject line and my inbox is flooded with his psychotic
>> babble. I only hope Bill doesn't try this, otherwise this group will
>> surely be lost.
>
> Just create a rule with your OE ................ as opposed to blocking
> the sender. Just keep an observant eye out for commom terms/words in the
> subject line - make a few rules if required .............. worked for me
> !!!!!
>
>>
>> John
>>
>> > have learned how to pull your crank, and you encourage them to pull it.
>>>
>>> TO THE IDIOTS
>>> Go pull your own crank, or sit in a circle ant take turns pulling each
>>> other's crank, I really don't care.
>>>
>>> No matter what Bill is, you are far more stupid. None of you guys ever,
>>> that's E-V-E-R, have anything useful to say pursuant to any topic that
>>> is posted. When somebody asks, why doesn't the clutch work? and your
>>> relpy is, Bill is a jerk, then you are really not adding anything of
>>> value to the discussion.
>>>
>>> TO ALL OF YOU
>>> You idiots, and Bill, have managed to ---- it up for the rest of us.
>>> There are only 3 rules in life, you gotta be happy, you gotta have fun,
>>> and you can't ---- it up for anybody else. You might be happy, clearly
>>> you are having fun, but you violate rule #3, you are ------- it up for
>>> everybody else.
>>>
>>> Looks like I gotta dust off the Killfile because it has become clear to
>>> me that none of you are going to grow a brain anytime soon. It's sad
>>> really that grown men can't figure out a way to ignore each other -- I
>>> fault Bill the most on this point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

jerryg

On Jan 3, 7:58 pm, "J White" <jwhite...@spamthis.yahoo.com> wrote:
> Personally, I would have to blame Bill for every bit of this idiocy..
> Bill does indeed have quite a collection of decent information thathe is
> happy to share with the group but woe to anyone that disagreed or dared to
> offer a different view point. There was never any room for polite,
> thoughtful discussion. It was always his way or else. He finally ran across
> someone that wouldn't put up with the crap and are more than happy to hand
> it back in spades.
> Bill kicked over this sh*tpile all by himself. Will it ever end? Probably
> not, these guys are more alike than they are different. Sad. It used to bea
> great group.
>
> "Rod's SHAW" <rod.g...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:i0efj.386$EA5.122@pd7urf2no...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "John" <h...@there.com> wrote in message
> >news:477d68a1$0$28846$4c368faf@roadrunner.com.. .
> >> Jeff,
> >> You're absolutely right but you have the power to fix the problem. About
> >> two months ago I learned about killfile/filter. I set up a rule on my
> >> newsgroup reader that filtered out Bill ------ and a couple of others and
> >> now I only see useful information. So far so good as none of the Bill
> >> ------ messages come through my reader and it has really cleaned up my
> >> inbox and sanity.
>
> >> This --- guy is a different story. He knows how to beat filtering by
> >> changing the --- subject line and my inbox is flooded with his psychotic
> >> babble. I only hope Bill doesn't try this, otherwise this group will
> >> surely be lost.
>
> > Just create a rule with your OE ................ as opposed to blocking
> > the sender. Just keep an observant eye out for commom terms/words in the
> > subject line - make a few rules if required .............. worked for me
> > !!!!!
>
> >> John
>
> >> > have learned how to pull your crank, and you encourage them to pull it.
>
> >>> TO THE IDIOTS
> >>> Go pull your own crank, or sit in a circle ant take turns pulling each
> >>> other's crank, I really don't care.
>
> >>> No matter what Bill is, you are far more stupid. None of you guys ever,
> >>> that's E-V-E-R, have anything useful to say pursuant to any topic that
> >>> is posted. When somebody asks, why doesn't the clutch work? and your
> >>> relpy is, Bill is a jerk, then you are really not adding anything of
> >>> value to the discussion.
>
> >>> TO ALL OF YOU
> >>> You idiots, and Bill, have managed to ---- it up for the rest of us.
> >>> There are only 3 rules in life, you gotta be happy, you gotta have fun,
> >>> and you can't ---- it up for anybody else. You might be happy, clearly
> >>> you are having fun, but you violate rule #3, you are ------- it up for
> >>> everybody else.
>
> >>> Looks like I gotta dust off the Killfile because it has become clear to
> >>> me that none of you are going to grow a brain anytime soon. It's sad
> >>> really that grown men can't figure out a way to ignore each other -- I
> >>> fault Bill the most on this point.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yea, Bill should really give it up. I don't think he can win.

Greg

Rod's SHAW

"J White" <jwhite_00@spamthis.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:477d92b5$0$5125$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Personally, I would have to blame Bill for every bit of this idiocy.

I dunno ........... I must say I'm naive to the back_room and board_room
goings on. All I know is that all of the ballistics aimed at ole Billy have
become untolerable.

> Bill does indeed have quite a collection of decent information that he
> is happy to share with the group but woe to anyone that disagreed or dared
> to offer a different view point. There was never any room for polite,
> thoughtful discussion. It was always his way or else. He finally ran
> across someone

SOME one ??? It looks more like he ran across an army

that wouldn't put up with the crap and are more than happy to hand
> it back in spades.
> Bill kicked over this sh*tpile all by himself. Will it ever end?
> Probably not, these guys are more alike than they are different. Sad. It
> used to be a great group.

Still is ................... just need to be active with kill_file citeria
>
>
> "Rod's SHAW" <rod.gram@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:i0efj.386$EA5.122@pd7urf2no...
>>
>> "John" <here@there.com> wrote in message
>> news:477d68a1$0$28846$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> Jeff,
>>> You're absolutely right but you have the power to fix the problem.
>>> About two months ago I learned about killfile/filter. I set up a rule
>>> on my newsgroup reader that filtered out Bill ------ and a couple of
>>> others and now I only see useful information. So far so good as none of
>>> the Bill ------ messages come through my reader and it has really
>>> cleaned up my inbox and sanity.
>>>
>>> This --- guy is a different story. He knows how to beat filtering by
>>> changing the --- subject line and my inbox is flooded with his psychotic
>>> babble. I only hope Bill doesn't try this, otherwise this group will
>>> surely be lost.
>>
>> Just create a rule with your OE ................ as opposed to blocking
>> the sender. Just keep an observant eye out for commom terms/words in the
>> subject line - make a few rules if required .............. worked for me
>> !!!!!
>>
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> > have learned how to pull your crank, and you encourage them to pull
>>> > it.
>>>>
>>>> TO THE IDIOTS
>>>> Go pull your own crank, or sit in a circle ant take turns pulling each
>>>> other's crank, I really don't care.
>>>>
>>>> No matter what Bill is, you are far more stupid. None of you guys ever,
>>>> that's E-V-E-R, have anything useful to say pursuant to any topic that
>>>> is posted. When somebody asks, why doesn't the clutch work? and your
>>>> relpy is, Bill is a jerk, then you are really not adding anything of
>>>> value to the discussion.
>>>>
>>>> TO ALL OF YOU
>>>> You idiots, and Bill, have managed to ---- it up for the rest of us.
>>>> There are only 3 rules in life, you gotta be happy, you gotta have fun,
>>>> and you can't ---- it up for anybody else. You might be happy, clearly
>>>> you are having fun, but you violate rule #3, you are ------- it up for
>>>> everybody else.
>>>>
>>>> Looks like I gotta dust off the Killfile because it has become clear to
>>>> me that none of you are going to grow a brain anytime soon. It's sad
>>>> really that grown men can't figure out a way to ignore each other -- I
>>>> fault Bill the most on this point.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

My Conscience

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> Today, 01/03/08, I opened the newsgroup to 211 new messages. There were
> two or three replies to the clutch issue where the OP says he installed
> a box full of parts on a 4-banger CJ clutch, and the pedal does not
> work; a spammer post from the GPS salesman; another spammer passing out
> bogus $5 bills; and 206 posts where the topic and discussion is, am to,
> am not, am too, am not, etc. ad neasum.

Sad, isn't it?

> TO BILL ------
> Stop talking to these idiots. You are wasting time, energy, and space.
> They have learned how to pull your crank, and you encourage them to pull
> it.

Yick! What a revolting thought!

> TO THE IDIOTS
> Go pull your own crank, or sit in a circle ant take turns pulling each
> other's crank, I really don't care.

If you didn't care, you wouldn't be so steamed up about all this.

> No matter what Bill is, you are far more stupid. None of you guys ever,
> that's E-V-E-R, have anything useful to say pursuant to any topic that
> is posted. When somebody asks, why doesn't the clutch work? and your
> relpy is, Bill is a jerk, then you are really not adding anything of
> value to the discussion.

Oh, fiddlesticks. It's very important to let people know that Bill is
not only a jerk, but a liar and thief as well. Wouldn't you say that it
is your duty as a good citizen to alert other citizens to a con man in
your midst? Such is our Bill.

> TO ALL OF YOU
> You idiots, and Bill, have managed to ---- it up for the rest of us.
> There are only 3 rules in life, you gotta be happy, you gotta have fun,
> and you can't ---- it up for anybody else. You might be happy, clearly
> you are having fun, but you violate rule #3, you are ------- it up for
> everybody else.

I think there are a lot more rules than that, but thanks for your glib
oversimplification. You've been so useful.

> Looks like I gotta dust off the Killfile because it has become clear to
> me that none of you are going to grow a brain anytime soon. It's sad
> really that grown men can't figure out a way to ignore each other -- I
> fault Bill the most on this point.

Well, good for you. Maybe you're not completely useless.

But please, before your whining gets any more melodramatic, allow me to
be the first to say:

<PLONK>

My Conscience

J White wrote:
> Personally, I would have to blame Bill for every bit of this idiocy.

You are wise beyond your years.

> Bill does indeed have quite a collection of decent information that he is
> happy to share with the group but woe to anyone that disagreed or dared to
> offer a different view point. There was never any room for polite,
> thoughtful discussion. It was always his way or else. He finally ran across
> someone that wouldn't put up with the crap and are more than happy to hand
> it back in spades.

Bingo! Give the man a cigar. I could not have put it better myself,
and I'm quite the erudite fellow.

> Bill kicked over this sh*tpile all by himself. Will it ever end? Probably
> not, these guys are more alike than they are different. Sad. It used to be a
> great group.

Oh, it will absolutely end some day, I guarantee you that. I just can't
tell you when--only Bill can, when he either smartens up and decides not
to reply any more (don't hold your breath waiting for that one) or when
he can't post anymore due to being in jail, or burning through all
possible ISPs, or kicking the bucket, or numerous other etcs.

> "Rod's SHAW" <rod.gram@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:i0efj.386$EA5.122@pd7urf2no...
>> "John" <here@there.com> wrote in message
>> news:477d68a1$0$28846$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> Jeff,
>>> You're absolutely right but you have the power to fix the problem. About
>>> two months ago I learned about killfile/filter. I set up a rule on my
>>> newsgroup reader that filtered out Bill ------ and a couple of others and
>>> now I only see useful information. So far so good as none of the Bill
>>> ------ messages come through my reader and it has really cleaned up my
>>> inbox and sanity.
>>>
>>> This --- guy is a different story. He knows how to beat filtering by
>>> changing the --- subject line and my inbox is flooded with his psychotic
>>> babble. I only hope Bill doesn't try this, otherwise this group will
>>> surely be lost.
>> Just create a rule with your OE ................ as opposed to blocking
>> the sender. Just keep an observant eye out for commom terms/words in the
>> subject line - make a few rules if required .............. worked for me
>> !!!!!
>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>> have learned how to pull your crank, and you encourage them to pull it.
>>>>
>>>> TO THE IDIOTS
>>>> Go pull your own crank, or sit in a circle ant take turns pulling each
>>>> other's crank, I really don't care.
>>>>
>>>> No matter what Bill is, you are far more stupid. None of you guys ever,
>>>> that's E-V-E-R, have anything useful to say pursuant to any topic that
>>>> is posted. When somebody asks, why doesn't the clutch work? and your
>>>> relpy is, Bill is a jerk, then you are really not adding anything of
>>>> value to the discussion.
>>>>
>>>> TO ALL OF YOU
>>>> You idiots, and Bill, have managed to ---- it up for the rest of us.
>>>> There are only 3 rules in life, you gotta be happy, you gotta have fun,
>>>> and you can't ---- it up for anybody else. You might be happy, clearly
>>>> you are having fun, but you violate rule #3, you are ------- it up for
>>>> everybody else.
>>>>
>>>> Looks like I gotta dust off the Killfile because it has become clear to
>>>> me that none of you are going to grow a brain anytime soon. It's sad
>>>> really that grown men can't figure out a way to ignore each other -- I
>>>> fault Bill the most on this point.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>

Barking dog

John wrote:
> Jeff,

>
> This --- guy is a different story. He knows how to beat filtering by
> changing the --- subject line and my inbox is flooded with his psychotic
> babble.
>
> John
>
>

For the --- idiot I found this filter in another group I did a copy and
paste for all the Groups that I read

---[,'` \.\-]I[,'` \.\-]5.p.}

So far, it seems to be working.

BD

Kate

"J White" <jwhite_00@spamthis.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:477d92b5$0$5125$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Personally, I would have to blame Bill for every bit of this idiocy.
Bill does indeed have quite a collection of decent information that he is
happy to share with the group but woe to anyone that disagreed or dared to
offer a different view point. There was never any room for polite,
thoughtful discussion. It was always his way or else. He finally ran across
someone that wouldn't put up with the crap and are more than happy to hand
it back in spades.
Bill kicked over this sh*tpile all by himself. Will it ever end? Probably
not, these guys are more alike than they are different. Sad. It used to be a
great group.


--
AMEN to that.
If Bill would just shut the hell up and stop antagonizing these other guys -
with luck - the group could return to normal.
In the meantime it's hard finding a place where there are familar faces that
a person can ask the occasional stupid question.

Kate