i am new
07-16-2007, 11:03 PM
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Re: i am new
Hi Stephen
What is your budget? What do you plan to do with a Jeep?
Merrill
On Jul 16, 11:03 am, "stephenbudd...@gmail.com"
<stephenbudd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
What is your budget? What do you plan to do with a Jeep?
Merrill
On Jul 16, 11:03 am, "stephenbudd...@gmail.com"
<stephenbudd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
07-17-2007, 12:27 AM
#22
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Re: i am new
Hi there. What do you plan to do with the Jeep? My last 2 Jeeps have
been manuals and I like it that way.
Tomes
<stephenbuddrus@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
>
been manuals and I like it that way.
Tomes
<stephenbuddrus@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
>
07-17-2007, 12:27 AM
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Re: i am new
Hi there. What do you plan to do with the Jeep? My last 2 Jeeps have
been manuals and I like it that way.
Tomes
<stephenbuddrus@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184598230.488324.50110@o61g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
>
been manuals and I like it that way.
Tomes
<stephenbuddrus@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184598230.488324.50110@o61g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
>
07-17-2007, 12:27 AM
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Re: i am new
Hi there. What do you plan to do with the Jeep? My last 2 Jeeps have
been manuals and I like it that way.
Tomes
<stephenbuddrus@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184598230.488324.50110@o61g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
>
been manuals and I like it that way.
Tomes
<stephenbuddrus@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184598230.488324.50110@o61g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
>
07-17-2007, 12:27 AM
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Re: i am new
Hi there. What do you plan to do with the Jeep? My last 2 Jeeps have
been manuals and I like it that way.
Tomes
<stephenbuddrus@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184598230.488324.50110@o61g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
>
been manuals and I like it that way.
Tomes
<stephenbuddrus@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184598230.488324.50110@o61g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
>
07-17-2007, 05:56 AM
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:12:53 GMT, SnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:
>>An auto costs in gas mileage also.
>
>THis is not realy true musch any more as some modern 4 and more speed
>automatic can get as good of MPG as a stick and automatic tend to be
>more consistant with MPG too. A Maunal can give you better speed
>controll under some conditions off road because you do not have the
>converter stall making things "sloppy" at lower speeds. Automatic are
>more forgiving with big tires and stock gears because of torque
>converter helping in launch and theycan muiltpy torque up to 2x and
>more in gear while a manual does not multiply anything slipping
>clutch.
OK, a little anecdotal evidence to counter this. I have a '95 YJ, 4
cyl, 5 speed, all stock. My kid had a '95 YJ, 4 cyl, auto, all stock.
I consistantly got about 4-5 miles to the gallon better than him over
the same roads.
Of course we weren't plowing snow at the time.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
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>>An auto costs in gas mileage also.
>
>THis is not realy true musch any more as some modern 4 and more speed
>automatic can get as good of MPG as a stick and automatic tend to be
>more consistant with MPG too. A Maunal can give you better speed
>controll under some conditions off road because you do not have the
>converter stall making things "sloppy" at lower speeds. Automatic are
>more forgiving with big tires and stock gears because of torque
>converter helping in launch and theycan muiltpy torque up to 2x and
>more in gear while a manual does not multiply anything slipping
>clutch.
OK, a little anecdotal evidence to counter this. I have a '95 YJ, 4
cyl, 5 speed, all stock. My kid had a '95 YJ, 4 cyl, auto, all stock.
I consistantly got about 4-5 miles to the gallon better than him over
the same roads.
Of course we weren't plowing snow at the time.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
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07-17-2007, 05:56 AM
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Re: i am new
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:12:53 GMT, SnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:
>>An auto costs in gas mileage also.
>
>THis is not realy true musch any more as some modern 4 and more speed
>automatic can get as good of MPG as a stick and automatic tend to be
>more consistant with MPG too. A Maunal can give you better speed
>controll under some conditions off road because you do not have the
>converter stall making things "sloppy" at lower speeds. Automatic are
>more forgiving with big tires and stock gears because of torque
>converter helping in launch and theycan muiltpy torque up to 2x and
>more in gear while a manual does not multiply anything slipping
>clutch.
OK, a little anecdotal evidence to counter this. I have a '95 YJ, 4
cyl, 5 speed, all stock. My kid had a '95 YJ, 4 cyl, auto, all stock.
I consistantly got about 4-5 miles to the gallon better than him over
the same roads.
Of course we weren't plowing snow at the time.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>An auto costs in gas mileage also.
>
>THis is not realy true musch any more as some modern 4 and more speed
>automatic can get as good of MPG as a stick and automatic tend to be
>more consistant with MPG too. A Maunal can give you better speed
>controll under some conditions off road because you do not have the
>converter stall making things "sloppy" at lower speeds. Automatic are
>more forgiving with big tires and stock gears because of torque
>converter helping in launch and theycan muiltpy torque up to 2x and
>more in gear while a manual does not multiply anything slipping
>clutch.
OK, a little anecdotal evidence to counter this. I have a '95 YJ, 4
cyl, 5 speed, all stock. My kid had a '95 YJ, 4 cyl, auto, all stock.
I consistantly got about 4-5 miles to the gallon better than him over
the same roads.
Of course we weren't plowing snow at the time.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
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07-17-2007, 05:56 AM
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Re: i am new
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:12:53 GMT, SnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:
>>An auto costs in gas mileage also.
>
>THis is not realy true musch any more as some modern 4 and more speed
>automatic can get as good of MPG as a stick and automatic tend to be
>more consistant with MPG too. A Maunal can give you better speed
>controll under some conditions off road because you do not have the
>converter stall making things "sloppy" at lower speeds. Automatic are
>more forgiving with big tires and stock gears because of torque
>converter helping in launch and theycan muiltpy torque up to 2x and
>more in gear while a manual does not multiply anything slipping
>clutch.
OK, a little anecdotal evidence to counter this. I have a '95 YJ, 4
cyl, 5 speed, all stock. My kid had a '95 YJ, 4 cyl, auto, all stock.
I consistantly got about 4-5 miles to the gallon better than him over
the same roads.
Of course we weren't plowing snow at the time.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>An auto costs in gas mileage also.
>
>THis is not realy true musch any more as some modern 4 and more speed
>automatic can get as good of MPG as a stick and automatic tend to be
>more consistant with MPG too. A Maunal can give you better speed
>controll under some conditions off road because you do not have the
>converter stall making things "sloppy" at lower speeds. Automatic are
>more forgiving with big tires and stock gears because of torque
>converter helping in launch and theycan muiltpy torque up to 2x and
>more in gear while a manual does not multiply anything slipping
>clutch.
OK, a little anecdotal evidence to counter this. I have a '95 YJ, 4
cyl, 5 speed, all stock. My kid had a '95 YJ, 4 cyl, auto, all stock.
I consistantly got about 4-5 miles to the gallon better than him over
the same roads.
Of course we weren't plowing snow at the time.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
07-17-2007, 05:56 AM
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Re: i am new
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:12:53 GMT, SnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:
>>An auto costs in gas mileage also.
>
>THis is not realy true musch any more as some modern 4 and more speed
>automatic can get as good of MPG as a stick and automatic tend to be
>more consistant with MPG too. A Maunal can give you better speed
>controll under some conditions off road because you do not have the
>converter stall making things "sloppy" at lower speeds. Automatic are
>more forgiving with big tires and stock gears because of torque
>converter helping in launch and theycan muiltpy torque up to 2x and
>more in gear while a manual does not multiply anything slipping
>clutch.
OK, a little anecdotal evidence to counter this. I have a '95 YJ, 4
cyl, 5 speed, all stock. My kid had a '95 YJ, 4 cyl, auto, all stock.
I consistantly got about 4-5 miles to the gallon better than him over
the same roads.
Of course we weren't plowing snow at the time.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>An auto costs in gas mileage also.
>
>THis is not realy true musch any more as some modern 4 and more speed
>automatic can get as good of MPG as a stick and automatic tend to be
>more consistant with MPG too. A Maunal can give you better speed
>controll under some conditions off road because you do not have the
>converter stall making things "sloppy" at lower speeds. Automatic are
>more forgiving with big tires and stock gears because of torque
>converter helping in launch and theycan muiltpy torque up to 2x and
>more in gear while a manual does not multiply anything slipping
>clutch.
OK, a little anecdotal evidence to counter this. I have a '95 YJ, 4
cyl, 5 speed, all stock. My kid had a '95 YJ, 4 cyl, auto, all stock.
I consistantly got about 4-5 miles to the gallon better than him over
the same roads.
Of course we weren't plowing snow at the time.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
07-17-2007, 10:07 AM
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Re: i am new
stephenbuddrus@gmail.com wrote:
> i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
>
I realize transmission type is a very important factor, however have you
decided on a particular model Jeep yet? If you are looking for a
"vintage" or somewhat older Jeep having already decided on a trans type
may be a limiting factor. Of course, if you are looking for a new Jeep,
you can get it in whichever you want.
For what it's worth, I have an auto in my '87 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, and
like it. I tend to shift it manually a lot while on the road & off. Of
course, you don't really get the same level of control as you do a
stick, but I like it. It's nice to be able to hop in & not worry about
clutching sometimes.
On the other hand, the auto transmission in my Jeep tends to get warm
when the transmission is under load. With a large "towing package"
cooler in front of my radiator, it heats up the entire engine
compartment while off roading if in high-range.
I think it really comes down to what you want to use it for & what your
personal preferance is. Even with the drawbacks, I like the auto in my
Jeep.
Good luck!
Clay
> i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
>
I realize transmission type is a very important factor, however have you
decided on a particular model Jeep yet? If you are looking for a
"vintage" or somewhat older Jeep having already decided on a trans type
may be a limiting factor. Of course, if you are looking for a new Jeep,
you can get it in whichever you want.
For what it's worth, I have an auto in my '87 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, and
like it. I tend to shift it manually a lot while on the road & off. Of
course, you don't really get the same level of control as you do a
stick, but I like it. It's nice to be able to hop in & not worry about
clutching sometimes.
On the other hand, the auto transmission in my Jeep tends to get warm
when the transmission is under load. With a large "towing package"
cooler in front of my radiator, it heats up the entire engine
compartment while off roading if in high-range.
I think it really comes down to what you want to use it for & what your
personal preferance is. Even with the drawbacks, I like the auto in my
Jeep.
Good luck!
Clay
