i am new
07-16-2007, 03:47 PM
#11
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Re: i am new
SnoMan wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:19:46 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Having no clutch in nice in traffic and when rock crawling, but is not
>> really nice if sand pit wall climbing due to uncontrolled downshifting.
>
> This is bizarre, uncontolled down shifing? Maybe if you never use gear
> selector but since when is being able to downshift UNDER POWER in snad
> bad??? Maybe it is better to just bog ot with a stick at times.
Unlike you, we off road. When sand pit wall or ravine wall climbing,
you need steady power, momentum and torque, you cannot shift gears half
way up.
An automatic when put into 2nd to limit that one down shift at least can
get up the speed to have some momentum, but then halfway up the hill,
the sucker downshifts and the Jeep just stops and digs holes.
I have many photos of the poor folks with automatics trying and trying
and trying to get up the pit walls. The have to go around usually.
They make a kit to lock out first gear for some of the automatic trannys
to help avoid this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:19:46 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Having no clutch in nice in traffic and when rock crawling, but is not
>> really nice if sand pit wall climbing due to uncontrolled downshifting.
>
> This is bizarre, uncontolled down shifing? Maybe if you never use gear
> selector but since when is being able to downshift UNDER POWER in snad
> bad??? Maybe it is better to just bog ot with a stick at times.
Unlike you, we off road. When sand pit wall or ravine wall climbing,
you need steady power, momentum and torque, you cannot shift gears half
way up.
An automatic when put into 2nd to limit that one down shift at least can
get up the speed to have some momentum, but then halfway up the hill,
the sucker downshifts and the Jeep just stops and digs holes.
I have many photos of the poor folks with automatics trying and trying
and trying to get up the pit walls. The have to go around usually.
They make a kit to lock out first gear for some of the automatic trannys
to help avoid this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-16-2007, 03:47 PM
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Re: i am new
SnoMan wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:19:46 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Having no clutch in nice in traffic and when rock crawling, but is not
>> really nice if sand pit wall climbing due to uncontrolled downshifting.
>
> This is bizarre, uncontolled down shifing? Maybe if you never use gear
> selector but since when is being able to downshift UNDER POWER in snad
> bad??? Maybe it is better to just bog ot with a stick at times.
Unlike you, we off road. When sand pit wall or ravine wall climbing,
you need steady power, momentum and torque, you cannot shift gears half
way up.
An automatic when put into 2nd to limit that one down shift at least can
get up the speed to have some momentum, but then halfway up the hill,
the sucker downshifts and the Jeep just stops and digs holes.
I have many photos of the poor folks with automatics trying and trying
and trying to get up the pit walls. The have to go around usually.
They make a kit to lock out first gear for some of the automatic trannys
to help avoid this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:19:46 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Having no clutch in nice in traffic and when rock crawling, but is not
>> really nice if sand pit wall climbing due to uncontrolled downshifting.
>
> This is bizarre, uncontolled down shifing? Maybe if you never use gear
> selector but since when is being able to downshift UNDER POWER in snad
> bad??? Maybe it is better to just bog ot with a stick at times.
Unlike you, we off road. When sand pit wall or ravine wall climbing,
you need steady power, momentum and torque, you cannot shift gears half
way up.
An automatic when put into 2nd to limit that one down shift at least can
get up the speed to have some momentum, but then halfway up the hill,
the sucker downshifts and the Jeep just stops and digs holes.
I have many photos of the poor folks with automatics trying and trying
and trying to get up the pit walls. The have to go around usually.
They make a kit to lock out first gear for some of the automatic trannys
to help avoid this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-16-2007, 03:47 PM
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Re: i am new
SnoMan wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:19:46 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Having no clutch in nice in traffic and when rock crawling, but is not
>> really nice if sand pit wall climbing due to uncontrolled downshifting.
>
> This is bizarre, uncontolled down shifing? Maybe if you never use gear
> selector but since when is being able to downshift UNDER POWER in snad
> bad??? Maybe it is better to just bog ot with a stick at times.
Unlike you, we off road. When sand pit wall or ravine wall climbing,
you need steady power, momentum and torque, you cannot shift gears half
way up.
An automatic when put into 2nd to limit that one down shift at least can
get up the speed to have some momentum, but then halfway up the hill,
the sucker downshifts and the Jeep just stops and digs holes.
I have many photos of the poor folks with automatics trying and trying
and trying to get up the pit walls. The have to go around usually.
They make a kit to lock out first gear for some of the automatic trannys
to help avoid this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:19:46 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Having no clutch in nice in traffic and when rock crawling, but is not
>> really nice if sand pit wall climbing due to uncontrolled downshifting.
>
> This is bizarre, uncontolled down shifing? Maybe if you never use gear
> selector but since when is being able to downshift UNDER POWER in snad
> bad??? Maybe it is better to just bog ot with a stick at times.
Unlike you, we off road. When sand pit wall or ravine wall climbing,
you need steady power, momentum and torque, you cannot shift gears half
way up.
An automatic when put into 2nd to limit that one down shift at least can
get up the speed to have some momentum, but then halfway up the hill,
the sucker downshifts and the Jeep just stops and digs holes.
I have many photos of the poor folks with automatics trying and trying
and trying to get up the pit walls. The have to go around usually.
They make a kit to lock out first gear for some of the automatic trannys
to help avoid this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-16-2007, 09:19 PM
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Re: i am new
Hi and welcome.
It really depends on your personal preferences and what you will be doing. My own
preference is for a stick, unless driving a large pickup truck, however, an auto
would sure be nice when I have to go to the city and end up stuck in traffic. lol.
Its really what you like and what you do. I suspect the next time I get a car it
will be an auto, but I really like my Jeep to be a manual. Part of that is probably
because I learned to drive on manual transmissions. It was many years before I drove
my first automatic and I still have issues with them some times. =)
-jenn
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:03:50 -0000, "stephenbuddrus@gmail.com"
<stephenbuddrus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
>>have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
>>standard or automatic???
It really depends on your personal preferences and what you will be doing. My own
preference is for a stick, unless driving a large pickup truck, however, an auto
would sure be nice when I have to go to the city and end up stuck in traffic. lol.
Its really what you like and what you do. I suspect the next time I get a car it
will be an auto, but I really like my Jeep to be a manual. Part of that is probably
because I learned to drive on manual transmissions. It was many years before I drove
my first automatic and I still have issues with them some times. =)
-jenn
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:03:50 -0000, "stephenbuddrus@gmail.com"
<stephenbuddrus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
>>have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
>>standard or automatic???
07-16-2007, 09:19 PM
#15
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Re: i am new
Hi and welcome.
It really depends on your personal preferences and what you will be doing. My own
preference is for a stick, unless driving a large pickup truck, however, an auto
would sure be nice when I have to go to the city and end up stuck in traffic. lol.
Its really what you like and what you do. I suspect the next time I get a car it
will be an auto, but I really like my Jeep to be a manual. Part of that is probably
because I learned to drive on manual transmissions. It was many years before I drove
my first automatic and I still have issues with them some times. =)
-jenn
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:03:50 -0000, "stephenbuddrus@gmail.com"
<stephenbuddrus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
>>have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
>>standard or automatic???
It really depends on your personal preferences and what you will be doing. My own
preference is for a stick, unless driving a large pickup truck, however, an auto
would sure be nice when I have to go to the city and end up stuck in traffic. lol.
Its really what you like and what you do. I suspect the next time I get a car it
will be an auto, but I really like my Jeep to be a manual. Part of that is probably
because I learned to drive on manual transmissions. It was many years before I drove
my first automatic and I still have issues with them some times. =)
-jenn
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:03:50 -0000, "stephenbuddrus@gmail.com"
<stephenbuddrus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
>>have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
>>standard or automatic???
07-16-2007, 09:19 PM
#16
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Re: i am new
Hi and welcome.
It really depends on your personal preferences and what you will be doing. My own
preference is for a stick, unless driving a large pickup truck, however, an auto
would sure be nice when I have to go to the city and end up stuck in traffic. lol.
Its really what you like and what you do. I suspect the next time I get a car it
will be an auto, but I really like my Jeep to be a manual. Part of that is probably
because I learned to drive on manual transmissions. It was many years before I drove
my first automatic and I still have issues with them some times. =)
-jenn
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:03:50 -0000, "stephenbuddrus@gmail.com"
<stephenbuddrus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
>>have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
>>standard or automatic???
It really depends on your personal preferences and what you will be doing. My own
preference is for a stick, unless driving a large pickup truck, however, an auto
would sure be nice when I have to go to the city and end up stuck in traffic. lol.
Its really what you like and what you do. I suspect the next time I get a car it
will be an auto, but I really like my Jeep to be a manual. Part of that is probably
because I learned to drive on manual transmissions. It was many years before I drove
my first automatic and I still have issues with them some times. =)
-jenn
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:03:50 -0000, "stephenbuddrus@gmail.com"
<stephenbuddrus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
>>have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
>>standard or automatic???
07-16-2007, 09:19 PM
#17
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Re: i am new
Hi and welcome.
It really depends on your personal preferences and what you will be doing. My own
preference is for a stick, unless driving a large pickup truck, however, an auto
would sure be nice when I have to go to the city and end up stuck in traffic. lol.
Its really what you like and what you do. I suspect the next time I get a car it
will be an auto, but I really like my Jeep to be a manual. Part of that is probably
because I learned to drive on manual transmissions. It was many years before I drove
my first automatic and I still have issues with them some times. =)
-jenn
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:03:50 -0000, "stephenbuddrus@gmail.com"
<stephenbuddrus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
>>have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
>>standard or automatic???
It really depends on your personal preferences and what you will be doing. My own
preference is for a stick, unless driving a large pickup truck, however, an auto
would sure be nice when I have to go to the city and end up stuck in traffic. lol.
Its really what you like and what you do. I suspect the next time I get a car it
will be an auto, but I really like my Jeep to be a manual. Part of that is probably
because I learned to drive on manual transmissions. It was many years before I drove
my first automatic and I still have issues with them some times. =)
-jenn
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:03:50 -0000, "stephenbuddrus@gmail.com"
<stephenbuddrus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
>>have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
>>standard or automatic???
07-16-2007, 11:03 PM
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Re: i am new
Hi Stephen
What is your budget? What do you plan to do with a Jeep?
Merrill
On Jul 16, 11:03 am, "stephenbudd...@gmail.com"
<stephenbudd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
What is your budget? What do you plan to do with a Jeep?
Merrill
On Jul 16, 11:03 am, "stephenbudd...@gmail.com"
<stephenbudd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
07-16-2007, 11:03 PM
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Re: i am new
Hi Stephen
What is your budget? What do you plan to do with a Jeep?
Merrill
On Jul 16, 11:03 am, "stephenbudd...@gmail.com"
<stephenbudd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
What is your budget? What do you plan to do with a Jeep?
Merrill
On Jul 16, 11:03 am, "stephenbudd...@gmail.com"
<stephenbudd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
07-16-2007, 11:03 PM
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Re: i am new
Hi Stephen
What is your budget? What do you plan to do with a Jeep?
Merrill
On Jul 16, 11:03 am, "stephenbudd...@gmail.com"
<stephenbudd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???
What is your budget? What do you plan to do with a Jeep?
Merrill
On Jul 16, 11:03 am, "stephenbudd...@gmail.com"
<stephenbudd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i am new to the jeep community and i have been looking for a wile, and
> have wonderd what is prefered by jeep owners when it comes to a trany,
> standard or automatic???