HUMMER
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Re: HUMMER
There are lots of differences. I think a key one that you must deal
with arises from the fact that Diesels have a smaller useable RPM range.
This means more gears in the tranny and more shifting to keep the
engine in the 'sweet' spot. This affects drivability significantly,
especially if you live in urban and/or hilly terrain. This often is
missed in this debate.
The price per mile of Diesel is not all that much different than
gasoline. They are subject to pretty much the same market pressures.
They likely will stay close. Diesel is always harder to find. I sure
would not let this be the main reason to go with Diesel. If fuel costs
are important, buy a small engined Jeep.
The Diesel is heavier. And more expensive.
Diesel engines are more scalable. In fact, the bigger the better. It
is difficult to make a small Diesel since it takes a large displacement
to get the necessary compression ratio.
If fed clean fuel and properly maintained, Diesels tend to go longer
between overhauls. This is really the key for why they are used in most
commercial applications where the engine will be run to overhaul
multiple times before it is retired.
The largest pickups are large enough and need enough power to
successfully mount a Diesel and the pollution laws make it difficult to
field an equivalent amount of power in a gasoline engine. Hummers might
fall into this category.
For most consumers who will get tired of the vehicle and trade it long
before even a gasoline engine needs an overhaul, the Diesel has little
advantage.
Just my $.02 worth, and you didn't even pay that!
> what i need help at is the maintenance difference between a diesel and a
> gasoline engine. Is there a lot of difference? with the high gas price
with arises from the fact that Diesels have a smaller useable RPM range.
This means more gears in the tranny and more shifting to keep the
engine in the 'sweet' spot. This affects drivability significantly,
especially if you live in urban and/or hilly terrain. This often is
missed in this debate.
The price per mile of Diesel is not all that much different than
gasoline. They are subject to pretty much the same market pressures.
They likely will stay close. Diesel is always harder to find. I sure
would not let this be the main reason to go with Diesel. If fuel costs
are important, buy a small engined Jeep.
The Diesel is heavier. And more expensive.
Diesel engines are more scalable. In fact, the bigger the better. It
is difficult to make a small Diesel since it takes a large displacement
to get the necessary compression ratio.
If fed clean fuel and properly maintained, Diesels tend to go longer
between overhauls. This is really the key for why they are used in most
commercial applications where the engine will be run to overhaul
multiple times before it is retired.
The largest pickups are large enough and need enough power to
successfully mount a Diesel and the pollution laws make it difficult to
field an equivalent amount of power in a gasoline engine. Hummers might
fall into this category.
For most consumers who will get tired of the vehicle and trade it long
before even a gasoline engine needs an overhaul, the Diesel has little
advantage.
Just my $.02 worth, and you didn't even pay that!
> what i need help at is the maintenance difference between a diesel and a
> gasoline engine. Is there a lot of difference? with the high gas price
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Re: HUMMER
There are lots of differences. I think a key one that you must deal
with arises from the fact that Diesels have a smaller useable RPM range.
This means more gears in the tranny and more shifting to keep the
engine in the 'sweet' spot. This affects drivability significantly,
especially if you live in urban and/or hilly terrain. This often is
missed in this debate.
The price per mile of Diesel is not all that much different than
gasoline. They are subject to pretty much the same market pressures.
They likely will stay close. Diesel is always harder to find. I sure
would not let this be the main reason to go with Diesel. If fuel costs
are important, buy a small engined Jeep.
The Diesel is heavier. And more expensive.
Diesel engines are more scalable. In fact, the bigger the better. It
is difficult to make a small Diesel since it takes a large displacement
to get the necessary compression ratio.
If fed clean fuel and properly maintained, Diesels tend to go longer
between overhauls. This is really the key for why they are used in most
commercial applications where the engine will be run to overhaul
multiple times before it is retired.
The largest pickups are large enough and need enough power to
successfully mount a Diesel and the pollution laws make it difficult to
field an equivalent amount of power in a gasoline engine. Hummers might
fall into this category.
For most consumers who will get tired of the vehicle and trade it long
before even a gasoline engine needs an overhaul, the Diesel has little
advantage.
Just my $.02 worth, and you didn't even pay that!
> what i need help at is the maintenance difference between a diesel and a
> gasoline engine. Is there a lot of difference? with the high gas price
with arises from the fact that Diesels have a smaller useable RPM range.
This means more gears in the tranny and more shifting to keep the
engine in the 'sweet' spot. This affects drivability significantly,
especially if you live in urban and/or hilly terrain. This often is
missed in this debate.
The price per mile of Diesel is not all that much different than
gasoline. They are subject to pretty much the same market pressures.
They likely will stay close. Diesel is always harder to find. I sure
would not let this be the main reason to go with Diesel. If fuel costs
are important, buy a small engined Jeep.
The Diesel is heavier. And more expensive.
Diesel engines are more scalable. In fact, the bigger the better. It
is difficult to make a small Diesel since it takes a large displacement
to get the necessary compression ratio.
If fed clean fuel and properly maintained, Diesels tend to go longer
between overhauls. This is really the key for why they are used in most
commercial applications where the engine will be run to overhaul
multiple times before it is retired.
The largest pickups are large enough and need enough power to
successfully mount a Diesel and the pollution laws make it difficult to
field an equivalent amount of power in a gasoline engine. Hummers might
fall into this category.
For most consumers who will get tired of the vehicle and trade it long
before even a gasoline engine needs an overhaul, the Diesel has little
advantage.
Just my $.02 worth, and you didn't even pay that!
> what i need help at is the maintenance difference between a diesel and a
> gasoline engine. Is there a lot of difference? with the high gas price
Guest
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Re: HUMMER
There are lots of differences. I think a key one that you must deal
with arises from the fact that Diesels have a smaller useable RPM range.
This means more gears in the tranny and more shifting to keep the
engine in the 'sweet' spot. This affects drivability significantly,
especially if you live in urban and/or hilly terrain. This often is
missed in this debate.
The price per mile of Diesel is not all that much different than
gasoline. They are subject to pretty much the same market pressures.
They likely will stay close. Diesel is always harder to find. I sure
would not let this be the main reason to go with Diesel. If fuel costs
are important, buy a small engined Jeep.
The Diesel is heavier. And more expensive.
Diesel engines are more scalable. In fact, the bigger the better. It
is difficult to make a small Diesel since it takes a large displacement
to get the necessary compression ratio.
If fed clean fuel and properly maintained, Diesels tend to go longer
between overhauls. This is really the key for why they are used in most
commercial applications where the engine will be run to overhaul
multiple times before it is retired.
The largest pickups are large enough and need enough power to
successfully mount a Diesel and the pollution laws make it difficult to
field an equivalent amount of power in a gasoline engine. Hummers might
fall into this category.
For most consumers who will get tired of the vehicle and trade it long
before even a gasoline engine needs an overhaul, the Diesel has little
advantage.
Just my $.02 worth, and you didn't even pay that!
> what i need help at is the maintenance difference between a diesel and a
> gasoline engine. Is there a lot of difference? with the high gas price
with arises from the fact that Diesels have a smaller useable RPM range.
This means more gears in the tranny and more shifting to keep the
engine in the 'sweet' spot. This affects drivability significantly,
especially if you live in urban and/or hilly terrain. This often is
missed in this debate.
The price per mile of Diesel is not all that much different than
gasoline. They are subject to pretty much the same market pressures.
They likely will stay close. Diesel is always harder to find. I sure
would not let this be the main reason to go with Diesel. If fuel costs
are important, buy a small engined Jeep.
The Diesel is heavier. And more expensive.
Diesel engines are more scalable. In fact, the bigger the better. It
is difficult to make a small Diesel since it takes a large displacement
to get the necessary compression ratio.
If fed clean fuel and properly maintained, Diesels tend to go longer
between overhauls. This is really the key for why they are used in most
commercial applications where the engine will be run to overhaul
multiple times before it is retired.
The largest pickups are large enough and need enough power to
successfully mount a Diesel and the pollution laws make it difficult to
field an equivalent amount of power in a gasoline engine. Hummers might
fall into this category.
For most consumers who will get tired of the vehicle and trade it long
before even a gasoline engine needs an overhaul, the Diesel has little
advantage.
Just my $.02 worth, and you didn't even pay that!
> what i need help at is the maintenance difference between a diesel and a
> gasoline engine. Is there a lot of difference? with the high gas price
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Re: HUMMER
Reminds me of my Cummins 350 and Fuller eighteen speed combination,
each speed was three to four miles an hour change, and Heaven help me if
I missed one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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River Horse wrote:
>
> There are lots of differences. I think a key one that you must deal
> with arises from the fact that Diesels have a smaller useable RPM range.
> This means more gears in the tranny and more shifting to keep the
> engine in the 'sweet' spot. This affects drivability significantly,
> especially if you live in urban and/or hilly terrain. This often is
> missed in this debate.
>
> The price per mile of Diesel is not all that much different than
> gasoline. They are subject to pretty much the same market pressures.
> They likely will stay close. Diesel is always harder to find. I sure
> would not let this be the main reason to go with Diesel. If fuel costs
> are important, buy a small engined Jeep.
>
> The Diesel is heavier. And more expensive.
>
> Diesel engines are more scalable. In fact, the bigger the better. It
> is difficult to make a small Diesel since it takes a large displacement
> to get the necessary compression ratio.
>
> If fed clean fuel and properly maintained, Diesels tend to go longer
> between overhauls. This is really the key for why they are used in most
> commercial applications where the engine will be run to overhaul
> multiple times before it is retired.
>
> The largest pickups are large enough and need enough power to
> successfully mount a Diesel and the pollution laws make it difficult to
> field an equivalent amount of power in a gasoline engine. Hummers might
> fall into this category.
>
> For most consumers who will get tired of the vehicle and trade it long
> before even a gasoline engine needs an overhaul, the Diesel has little
> advantage.
>
> Just my $.02 worth, and you didn't even pay that!
each speed was three to four miles an hour change, and Heaven help me if
I missed one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
River Horse wrote:
>
> There are lots of differences. I think a key one that you must deal
> with arises from the fact that Diesels have a smaller useable RPM range.
> This means more gears in the tranny and more shifting to keep the
> engine in the 'sweet' spot. This affects drivability significantly,
> especially if you live in urban and/or hilly terrain. This often is
> missed in this debate.
>
> The price per mile of Diesel is not all that much different than
> gasoline. They are subject to pretty much the same market pressures.
> They likely will stay close. Diesel is always harder to find. I sure
> would not let this be the main reason to go with Diesel. If fuel costs
> are important, buy a small engined Jeep.
>
> The Diesel is heavier. And more expensive.
>
> Diesel engines are more scalable. In fact, the bigger the better. It
> is difficult to make a small Diesel since it takes a large displacement
> to get the necessary compression ratio.
>
> If fed clean fuel and properly maintained, Diesels tend to go longer
> between overhauls. This is really the key for why they are used in most
> commercial applications where the engine will be run to overhaul
> multiple times before it is retired.
>
> The largest pickups are large enough and need enough power to
> successfully mount a Diesel and the pollution laws make it difficult to
> field an equivalent amount of power in a gasoline engine. Hummers might
> fall into this category.
>
> For most consumers who will get tired of the vehicle and trade it long
> before even a gasoline engine needs an overhaul, the Diesel has little
> advantage.
>
> Just my $.02 worth, and you didn't even pay that!
Guest
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Re: HUMMER
Reminds me of my Cummins 350 and Fuller eighteen speed combination,
each speed was three to four miles an hour change, and Heaven help me if
I missed one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
River Horse wrote:
>
> There are lots of differences. I think a key one that you must deal
> with arises from the fact that Diesels have a smaller useable RPM range.
> This means more gears in the tranny and more shifting to keep the
> engine in the 'sweet' spot. This affects drivability significantly,
> especially if you live in urban and/or hilly terrain. This often is
> missed in this debate.
>
> The price per mile of Diesel is not all that much different than
> gasoline. They are subject to pretty much the same market pressures.
> They likely will stay close. Diesel is always harder to find. I sure
> would not let this be the main reason to go with Diesel. If fuel costs
> are important, buy a small engined Jeep.
>
> The Diesel is heavier. And more expensive.
>
> Diesel engines are more scalable. In fact, the bigger the better. It
> is difficult to make a small Diesel since it takes a large displacement
> to get the necessary compression ratio.
>
> If fed clean fuel and properly maintained, Diesels tend to go longer
> between overhauls. This is really the key for why they are used in most
> commercial applications where the engine will be run to overhaul
> multiple times before it is retired.
>
> The largest pickups are large enough and need enough power to
> successfully mount a Diesel and the pollution laws make it difficult to
> field an equivalent amount of power in a gasoline engine. Hummers might
> fall into this category.
>
> For most consumers who will get tired of the vehicle and trade it long
> before even a gasoline engine needs an overhaul, the Diesel has little
> advantage.
>
> Just my $.02 worth, and you didn't even pay that!
each speed was three to four miles an hour change, and Heaven help me if
I missed one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
River Horse wrote:
>
> There are lots of differences. I think a key one that you must deal
> with arises from the fact that Diesels have a smaller useable RPM range.
> This means more gears in the tranny and more shifting to keep the
> engine in the 'sweet' spot. This affects drivability significantly,
> especially if you live in urban and/or hilly terrain. This often is
> missed in this debate.
>
> The price per mile of Diesel is not all that much different than
> gasoline. They are subject to pretty much the same market pressures.
> They likely will stay close. Diesel is always harder to find. I sure
> would not let this be the main reason to go with Diesel. If fuel costs
> are important, buy a small engined Jeep.
>
> The Diesel is heavier. And more expensive.
>
> Diesel engines are more scalable. In fact, the bigger the better. It
> is difficult to make a small Diesel since it takes a large displacement
> to get the necessary compression ratio.
>
> If fed clean fuel and properly maintained, Diesels tend to go longer
> between overhauls. This is really the key for why they are used in most
> commercial applications where the engine will be run to overhaul
> multiple times before it is retired.
>
> The largest pickups are large enough and need enough power to
> successfully mount a Diesel and the pollution laws make it difficult to
> field an equivalent amount of power in a gasoline engine. Hummers might
> fall into this category.
>
> For most consumers who will get tired of the vehicle and trade it long
> before even a gasoline engine needs an overhaul, the Diesel has little
> advantage.
>
> Just my $.02 worth, and you didn't even pay that!
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: HUMMER
Reminds me of my Cummins 350 and Fuller eighteen speed combination,
each speed was three to four miles an hour change, and Heaven help me if
I missed one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
River Horse wrote:
>
> There are lots of differences. I think a key one that you must deal
> with arises from the fact that Diesels have a smaller useable RPM range.
> This means more gears in the tranny and more shifting to keep the
> engine in the 'sweet' spot. This affects drivability significantly,
> especially if you live in urban and/or hilly terrain. This often is
> missed in this debate.
>
> The price per mile of Diesel is not all that much different than
> gasoline. They are subject to pretty much the same market pressures.
> They likely will stay close. Diesel is always harder to find. I sure
> would not let this be the main reason to go with Diesel. If fuel costs
> are important, buy a small engined Jeep.
>
> The Diesel is heavier. And more expensive.
>
> Diesel engines are more scalable. In fact, the bigger the better. It
> is difficult to make a small Diesel since it takes a large displacement
> to get the necessary compression ratio.
>
> If fed clean fuel and properly maintained, Diesels tend to go longer
> between overhauls. This is really the key for why they are used in most
> commercial applications where the engine will be run to overhaul
> multiple times before it is retired.
>
> The largest pickups are large enough and need enough power to
> successfully mount a Diesel and the pollution laws make it difficult to
> field an equivalent amount of power in a gasoline engine. Hummers might
> fall into this category.
>
> For most consumers who will get tired of the vehicle and trade it long
> before even a gasoline engine needs an overhaul, the Diesel has little
> advantage.
>
> Just my $.02 worth, and you didn't even pay that!
each speed was three to four miles an hour change, and Heaven help me if
I missed one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
River Horse wrote:
>
> There are lots of differences. I think a key one that you must deal
> with arises from the fact that Diesels have a smaller useable RPM range.
> This means more gears in the tranny and more shifting to keep the
> engine in the 'sweet' spot. This affects drivability significantly,
> especially if you live in urban and/or hilly terrain. This often is
> missed in this debate.
>
> The price per mile of Diesel is not all that much different than
> gasoline. They are subject to pretty much the same market pressures.
> They likely will stay close. Diesel is always harder to find. I sure
> would not let this be the main reason to go with Diesel. If fuel costs
> are important, buy a small engined Jeep.
>
> The Diesel is heavier. And more expensive.
>
> Diesel engines are more scalable. In fact, the bigger the better. It
> is difficult to make a small Diesel since it takes a large displacement
> to get the necessary compression ratio.
>
> If fed clean fuel and properly maintained, Diesels tend to go longer
> between overhauls. This is really the key for why they are used in most
> commercial applications where the engine will be run to overhaul
> multiple times before it is retired.
>
> The largest pickups are large enough and need enough power to
> successfully mount a Diesel and the pollution laws make it difficult to
> field an equivalent amount of power in a gasoline engine. Hummers might
> fall into this category.
>
> For most consumers who will get tired of the vehicle and trade it long
> before even a gasoline engine needs an overhaul, the Diesel has little
> advantage.
>
> Just my $.02 worth, and you didn't even pay that!
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: HUMMER
Reminds me of my Cummins 350 and Fuller eighteen speed combination,
each speed was three to four miles an hour change, and Heaven help me if
I missed one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
River Horse wrote:
>
> There are lots of differences. I think a key one that you must deal
> with arises from the fact that Diesels have a smaller useable RPM range.
> This means more gears in the tranny and more shifting to keep the
> engine in the 'sweet' spot. This affects drivability significantly,
> especially if you live in urban and/or hilly terrain. This often is
> missed in this debate.
>
> The price per mile of Diesel is not all that much different than
> gasoline. They are subject to pretty much the same market pressures.
> They likely will stay close. Diesel is always harder to find. I sure
> would not let this be the main reason to go with Diesel. If fuel costs
> are important, buy a small engined Jeep.
>
> The Diesel is heavier. And more expensive.
>
> Diesel engines are more scalable. In fact, the bigger the better. It
> is difficult to make a small Diesel since it takes a large displacement
> to get the necessary compression ratio.
>
> If fed clean fuel and properly maintained, Diesels tend to go longer
> between overhauls. This is really the key for why they are used in most
> commercial applications where the engine will be run to overhaul
> multiple times before it is retired.
>
> The largest pickups are large enough and need enough power to
> successfully mount a Diesel and the pollution laws make it difficult to
> field an equivalent amount of power in a gasoline engine. Hummers might
> fall into this category.
>
> For most consumers who will get tired of the vehicle and trade it long
> before even a gasoline engine needs an overhaul, the Diesel has little
> advantage.
>
> Just my $.02 worth, and you didn't even pay that!
each speed was three to four miles an hour change, and Heaven help me if
I missed one.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
River Horse wrote:
>
> There are lots of differences. I think a key one that you must deal
> with arises from the fact that Diesels have a smaller useable RPM range.
> This means more gears in the tranny and more shifting to keep the
> engine in the 'sweet' spot. This affects drivability significantly,
> especially if you live in urban and/or hilly terrain. This often is
> missed in this debate.
>
> The price per mile of Diesel is not all that much different than
> gasoline. They are subject to pretty much the same market pressures.
> They likely will stay close. Diesel is always harder to find. I sure
> would not let this be the main reason to go with Diesel. If fuel costs
> are important, buy a small engined Jeep.
>
> The Diesel is heavier. And more expensive.
>
> Diesel engines are more scalable. In fact, the bigger the better. It
> is difficult to make a small Diesel since it takes a large displacement
> to get the necessary compression ratio.
>
> If fed clean fuel and properly maintained, Diesels tend to go longer
> between overhauls. This is really the key for why they are used in most
> commercial applications where the engine will be run to overhaul
> multiple times before it is retired.
>
> The largest pickups are large enough and need enough power to
> successfully mount a Diesel and the pollution laws make it difficult to
> field an equivalent amount of power in a gasoline engine. Hummers might
> fall into this category.
>
> For most consumers who will get tired of the vehicle and trade it long
> before even a gasoline engine needs an overhaul, the Diesel has little
> advantage.
>
> Just my $.02 worth, and you didn't even pay that!
Guest
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Re: HUMMER
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, Failed Philosopher wrote:
> what i need help at is the maintenance difference between a diesel and a
> gasoline engine. Is there a lot of difference? with the high gas price
> these days, is diesel the way to go?
Here in damp New England, diesel prices are seasonally affected by home
heating oil demand (they are closely related products). During the last
two winters diesel prices peaked $0.10 to $0.20 per gallon higher than
premium gasoline.
> what i need help at is the maintenance difference between a diesel and a
> gasoline engine. Is there a lot of difference? with the high gas price
> these days, is diesel the way to go?
Here in damp New England, diesel prices are seasonally affected by home
heating oil demand (they are closely related products). During the last
two winters diesel prices peaked $0.10 to $0.20 per gallon higher than
premium gasoline.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: HUMMER
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, Failed Philosopher wrote:
> what i need help at is the maintenance difference between a diesel and a
> gasoline engine. Is there a lot of difference? with the high gas price
> these days, is diesel the way to go?
Here in damp New England, diesel prices are seasonally affected by home
heating oil demand (they are closely related products). During the last
two winters diesel prices peaked $0.10 to $0.20 per gallon higher than
premium gasoline.
> what i need help at is the maintenance difference between a diesel and a
> gasoline engine. Is there a lot of difference? with the high gas price
> these days, is diesel the way to go?
Here in damp New England, diesel prices are seasonally affected by home
heating oil demand (they are closely related products). During the last
two winters diesel prices peaked $0.10 to $0.20 per gallon higher than
premium gasoline.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: HUMMER
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, Failed Philosopher wrote:
> what i need help at is the maintenance difference between a diesel and a
> gasoline engine. Is there a lot of difference? with the high gas price
> these days, is diesel the way to go?
Here in damp New England, diesel prices are seasonally affected by home
heating oil demand (they are closely related products). During the last
two winters diesel prices peaked $0.10 to $0.20 per gallon higher than
premium gasoline.
> what i need help at is the maintenance difference between a diesel and a
> gasoline engine. Is there a lot of difference? with the high gas price
> these days, is diesel the way to go?
Here in damp New England, diesel prices are seasonally affected by home
heating oil demand (they are closely related products). During the last
two winters diesel prices peaked $0.10 to $0.20 per gallon higher than
premium gasoline.