Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
#921
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
those were UK figures, including Scotland.
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Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.19fcd4f2137a54a3989e36@news.eastlink.ca.. .
: In article <zrCkb.132$NG2.1254506@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: jeep@_nospam_milne.info says...
: > We have about 3,400 deaths per year for 60,000,000 people. That is 5 ten
: > thousandths of one percent.
: > Big deal.
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: > news:MPG.19fcc664c225db67989e35@news.eastlink.ca.. .
: > : In article <qLBkb.74$Oq2.1029332@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: > : jeep@_nospam_milne.info says...
: > : > works for us, and our roadways are a hell of a lot more crowded than
: > yours..
: > : >
: > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > : >
: > :
: > : I would hardly call over 20,000 road deaths a year, "working". But
then
: > : again people have come to accept that sort of number as low and
: > : acceptable, as long as their kid isn't number 19,856.
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: Are you in Scotland or aren't you?
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Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.19fcd4f2137a54a3989e36@news.eastlink.ca.. .
: In article <zrCkb.132$NG2.1254506@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: jeep@_nospam_milne.info says...
: > We have about 3,400 deaths per year for 60,000,000 people. That is 5 ten
: > thousandths of one percent.
: > Big deal.
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: > news:MPG.19fcc664c225db67989e35@news.eastlink.ca.. .
: > : In article <qLBkb.74$Oq2.1029332@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: > : jeep@_nospam_milne.info says...
: > : > works for us, and our roadways are a hell of a lot more crowded than
: > yours..
: > : >
: > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > : >
: > :
: > : I would hardly call over 20,000 road deaths a year, "working". But
then
: > : again people have come to accept that sort of number as low and
: > : acceptable, as long as their kid isn't number 19,856.
: > : --
: > : ____________________
: > : Remove "X" from email address to reply.
: >
: >
: >
:
: Are you in Scotland or aren't you?
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#922
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
those were UK figures, including Scotland.
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Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.19fcd4f2137a54a3989e36@news.eastlink.ca.. .
: In article <zrCkb.132$NG2.1254506@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: jeep@_nospam_milne.info says...
: > We have about 3,400 deaths per year for 60,000,000 people. That is 5 ten
: > thousandths of one percent.
: > Big deal.
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: > news:MPG.19fcc664c225db67989e35@news.eastlink.ca.. .
: > : In article <qLBkb.74$Oq2.1029332@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: > : jeep@_nospam_milne.info says...
: > : > works for us, and our roadways are a hell of a lot more crowded than
: > yours..
: > : >
: > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > : >
: > :
: > : I would hardly call over 20,000 road deaths a year, "working". But
then
: > : again people have come to accept that sort of number as low and
: > : acceptable, as long as their kid isn't number 19,856.
: > : --
: > : ____________________
: > : Remove "X" from email address to reply.
: >
: >
: >
:
: Are you in Scotland or aren't you?
: --
: ____________________
: Remove "X" from email address to reply.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.19fcd4f2137a54a3989e36@news.eastlink.ca.. .
: In article <zrCkb.132$NG2.1254506@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: jeep@_nospam_milne.info says...
: > We have about 3,400 deaths per year for 60,000,000 people. That is 5 ten
: > thousandths of one percent.
: > Big deal.
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: > news:MPG.19fcc664c225db67989e35@news.eastlink.ca.. .
: > : In article <qLBkb.74$Oq2.1029332@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: > : jeep@_nospam_milne.info says...
: > : > works for us, and our roadways are a hell of a lot more crowded than
: > yours..
: > : >
: > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > : >
: > :
: > : I would hardly call over 20,000 road deaths a year, "working". But
then
: > : again people have come to accept that sort of number as low and
: > : acceptable, as long as their kid isn't number 19,856.
: > : --
: > : ____________________
: > : Remove "X" from email address to reply.
: >
: >
: >
:
: Are you in Scotland or aren't you?
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: ____________________
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#923
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Chris Phillipo wrote:
>
> In article <3F92D89D.EEF86CC1@lisahorton.net>, Lisa@lisahorton.net
> says...
> >
> >
> > Chris Phillipo wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <3F91968B.2CC958BF@lisahorton.net>, Lisa@lisahorton.net
> > > says...
> > > > Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that I
> > > > can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it would
> > > > be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a bonus.
> > > >
> > > > Lisa
> > > >
> > >
> > > Your ignorance is what will kill you one of these days. Rainy on a
> > > curve with you driving? What is the current record for a small car
> > > rolling over in a ditch? 15 times I think? Let me know if you break
> > > it.
> >
> > I don't drive a small car. I also don't drive at or beyond the limits
> > of my vehicle or skill. I'l be doing the watching, not the rolling.
> >
> > Lisa
> >
>
> You clearly don't understand what type of maneuver would cause a car to
> roll and yet you tell me you would be able to avoid it. You are clearly
> irrelevant to this discussion.
You have absolutely no basis for your assertion about my knowledge.
Pulling assertions out of your *** makes you an ignoratn fool.
Lisa
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Chris Phillipo wrote:
>
> In article <3F92D89D.EEF86CC1@lisahorton.net>, Lisa@lisahorton.net
> says...
> >
> >
> > Chris Phillipo wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <3F91968B.2CC958BF@lisahorton.net>, Lisa@lisahorton.net
> > > says...
> > > > Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that I
> > > > can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it would
> > > > be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a bonus.
> > > >
> > > > Lisa
> > > >
> > >
> > > Your ignorance is what will kill you one of these days. Rainy on a
> > > curve with you driving? What is the current record for a small car
> > > rolling over in a ditch? 15 times I think? Let me know if you break
> > > it.
> >
> > I don't drive a small car. I also don't drive at or beyond the limits
> > of my vehicle or skill. I'l be doing the watching, not the rolling.
> >
> > Lisa
> >
>
> You clearly don't understand what type of maneuver would cause a car to
> roll and yet you tell me you would be able to avoid it. You are clearly
> irrelevant to this discussion.
You have absolutely no basis for your assertion about my knowledge.
Pulling assertions out of your *** makes you an ignoratn fool.
Lisa
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Chris Phillipo wrote:
>
> In article <3F92D89D.EEF86CC1@lisahorton.net>, Lisa@lisahorton.net
> says...
> >
> >
> > Chris Phillipo wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <3F91968B.2CC958BF@lisahorton.net>, Lisa@lisahorton.net
> > > says...
> > > > Not being an SUV driver, I'd simply steer out of the way, knowing that I
> > > > can actually turn sharply without rolling over. With any luck, it would
> > > > be rainy, or on a curve, and I could see evolution in action as a bonus.
> > > >
> > > > Lisa
> > > >
> > >
> > > Your ignorance is what will kill you one of these days. Rainy on a
> > > curve with you driving? What is the current record for a small car
> > > rolling over in a ditch? 15 times I think? Let me know if you break
> > > it.
> >
> > I don't drive a small car. I also don't drive at or beyond the limits
> > of my vehicle or skill. I'l be doing the watching, not the rolling.
> >
> > Lisa
> >
>
> You clearly don't understand what type of maneuver would cause a car to
> roll and yet you tell me you would be able to avoid it. You are clearly
> irrelevant to this discussion.
You have absolutely no basis for your assertion about my knowledge.
Pulling assertions out of your *** makes you an ignoratn fool.
Lisa
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Oh please - if I was so chicken that I worried about that, I wouldn't get
out of bed in the morning. Apart from the much more real threat of cancer,
we have GM crops, fluoride in water, BSE/CJD etc for the government to spend
money worrying about rather than trying to reduce a 0.005% problem that we
all live with and most of us (clearly not you) accept as being part and
parcel of modern life. The benefits outweigh the disadvantages hugely.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
news:3F92FD46.3080203@computer.org...
: Dave Milne wrote:
: > We have about 3,400 deaths per year for 60,000,000 people. That is 5 ten
: > thousandths of one percent.
: > Big deal.
:
: It is a big deal if you are one of the 3,400.
:
:
: Matt
:
out of bed in the morning. Apart from the much more real threat of cancer,
we have GM crops, fluoride in water, BSE/CJD etc for the government to spend
money worrying about rather than trying to reduce a 0.005% problem that we
all live with and most of us (clearly not you) accept as being part and
parcel of modern life. The benefits outweigh the disadvantages hugely.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
news:3F92FD46.3080203@computer.org...
: Dave Milne wrote:
: > We have about 3,400 deaths per year for 60,000,000 people. That is 5 ten
: > thousandths of one percent.
: > Big deal.
:
: It is a big deal if you are one of the 3,400.
:
:
: Matt
:
#927
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Oh please - if I was so chicken that I worried about that, I wouldn't get
out of bed in the morning. Apart from the much more real threat of cancer,
we have GM crops, fluoride in water, BSE/CJD etc for the government to spend
money worrying about rather than trying to reduce a 0.005% problem that we
all live with and most of us (clearly not you) accept as being part and
parcel of modern life. The benefits outweigh the disadvantages hugely.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
news:3F92FD46.3080203@computer.org...
: Dave Milne wrote:
: > We have about 3,400 deaths per year for 60,000,000 people. That is 5 ten
: > thousandths of one percent.
: > Big deal.
:
: It is a big deal if you are one of the 3,400.
:
:
: Matt
:
out of bed in the morning. Apart from the much more real threat of cancer,
we have GM crops, fluoride in water, BSE/CJD etc for the government to spend
money worrying about rather than trying to reduce a 0.005% problem that we
all live with and most of us (clearly not you) accept as being part and
parcel of modern life. The benefits outweigh the disadvantages hugely.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
news:3F92FD46.3080203@computer.org...
: Dave Milne wrote:
: > We have about 3,400 deaths per year for 60,000,000 people. That is 5 ten
: > thousandths of one percent.
: > Big deal.
:
: It is a big deal if you are one of the 3,400.
:
:
: Matt
:
#928
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Oh please - if I was so chicken that I worried about that, I wouldn't get
out of bed in the morning. Apart from the much more real threat of cancer,
we have GM crops, fluoride in water, BSE/CJD etc for the government to spend
money worrying about rather than trying to reduce a 0.005% problem that we
all live with and most of us (clearly not you) accept as being part and
parcel of modern life. The benefits outweigh the disadvantages hugely.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
news:3F92FD46.3080203@computer.org...
: Dave Milne wrote:
: > We have about 3,400 deaths per year for 60,000,000 people. That is 5 ten
: > thousandths of one percent.
: > Big deal.
:
: It is a big deal if you are one of the 3,400.
:
:
: Matt
:
out of bed in the morning. Apart from the much more real threat of cancer,
we have GM crops, fluoride in water, BSE/CJD etc for the government to spend
money worrying about rather than trying to reduce a 0.005% problem that we
all live with and most of us (clearly not you) accept as being part and
parcel of modern life. The benefits outweigh the disadvantages hugely.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
news:3F92FD46.3080203@computer.org...
: Dave Milne wrote:
: > We have about 3,400 deaths per year for 60,000,000 people. That is 5 ten
: > thousandths of one percent.
: > Big deal.
:
: It is a big deal if you are one of the 3,400.
:
:
: Matt
:
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <RpDkb.223$qr3.2413606@news-text.cableinet.net>,
jeep@_nospam_milne.info says...
> those were UK figures, including Scotland.
>
>
I kind of doubted there was sixty million people in Scotland, more like
five million. With so few people is it really that crowded? There were
around 20,000 road casualties in Scotland last year (sorry I said deaths
before, that was incorrect), even with the short distances driven there
don't you think better designed roads would cut that 20,000 figure down?
Your fortunate in that you don't have many opurtunities there for high
speed head on collisions to occur. A quick look at used cars for sale
in Scotland shows about 8-10,000 miles per year on them, I drove about
that much last month.
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jeep@_nospam_milne.info says...
> those were UK figures, including Scotland.
>
>
I kind of doubted there was sixty million people in Scotland, more like
five million. With so few people is it really that crowded? There were
around 20,000 road casualties in Scotland last year (sorry I said deaths
before, that was incorrect), even with the short distances driven there
don't you think better designed roads would cut that 20,000 figure down?
Your fortunate in that you don't have many opurtunities there for high
speed head on collisions to occur. A quick look at used cars for sale
in Scotland shows about 8-10,000 miles per year on them, I drove about
that much last month.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <RpDkb.223$qr3.2413606@news-text.cableinet.net>,
jeep@_nospam_milne.info says...
> those were UK figures, including Scotland.
>
>
I kind of doubted there was sixty million people in Scotland, more like
five million. With so few people is it really that crowded? There were
around 20,000 road casualties in Scotland last year (sorry I said deaths
before, that was incorrect), even with the short distances driven there
don't you think better designed roads would cut that 20,000 figure down?
Your fortunate in that you don't have many opurtunities there for high
speed head on collisions to occur. A quick look at used cars for sale
in Scotland shows about 8-10,000 miles per year on them, I drove about
that much last month.
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jeep@_nospam_milne.info says...
> those were UK figures, including Scotland.
>
>
I kind of doubted there was sixty million people in Scotland, more like
five million. With so few people is it really that crowded? There were
around 20,000 road casualties in Scotland last year (sorry I said deaths
before, that was incorrect), even with the short distances driven there
don't you think better designed roads would cut that 20,000 figure down?
Your fortunate in that you don't have many opurtunities there for high
speed head on collisions to occur. A quick look at used cars for sale
in Scotland shows about 8-10,000 miles per year on them, I drove about
that much last month.
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