Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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"vlj" <v@l.j> wrote in message
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> "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> sez:
> <snip>
> >It is not a marriage. <snip>
>
> Marriage started out as a property rite of ancient societies. It was then
> co-opted by the church(es). Then governments got into the act when the
> church was no longer one in the same as the government.
>
> Sticking to a dogmatic ritual that had its roots in protection of property
> and bloodlines when the involved had little say or choice in the matter
and
> then foist that definition on everyone at large in today's society is most
> medieval ...
>
Sounds like the first lecture in Feminism 101. Talk about dogma! The
purpose of marriage, even to patriarchal societies, is still vital for the
purpose of raising children.
> VLJ
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>
>
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Bill Funk wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:45:58 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
> wrote:
>>But if you replace the carb, then the pistons, then the exhaust, you've got
>>enough of a new engine that you ought to not still have the exemption that old
>>engines get from emissions standards.
>
>
> Why not?
> It's the same block, but better (lower emissions).
> Why do you want to encourage the owner from making it better by adding
> more regulations and costs?
>
Fortunately, even the Environut Proselytization Agency is smarter than
Lloyd....
> On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:45:58 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
> wrote:
>>But if you replace the carb, then the pistons, then the exhaust, you've got
>>enough of a new engine that you ought to not still have the exemption that old
>>engines get from emissions standards.
>
>
> Why not?
> It's the same block, but better (lower emissions).
> Why do you want to encourage the owner from making it better by adding
> more regulations and costs?
>
Fortunately, even the Environut Proselytization Agency is smarter than
Lloyd....
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Bill Funk wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:45:58 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
> wrote:
>>But if you replace the carb, then the pistons, then the exhaust, you've got
>>enough of a new engine that you ought to not still have the exemption that old
>>engines get from emissions standards.
>
>
> Why not?
> It's the same block, but better (lower emissions).
> Why do you want to encourage the owner from making it better by adding
> more regulations and costs?
>
Fortunately, even the Environut Proselytization Agency is smarter than
Lloyd....
> On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:45:58 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
> wrote:
>>But if you replace the carb, then the pistons, then the exhaust, you've got
>>enough of a new engine that you ought to not still have the exemption that old
>>engines get from emissions standards.
>
>
> Why not?
> It's the same block, but better (lower emissions).
> Why do you want to encourage the owner from making it better by adding
> more regulations and costs?
>
Fortunately, even the Environut Proselytization Agency is smarter than
Lloyd....
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Bill Funk wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:45:58 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
> wrote:
>>But if you replace the carb, then the pistons, then the exhaust, you've got
>>enough of a new engine that you ought to not still have the exemption that old
>>engines get from emissions standards.
>
>
> Why not?
> It's the same block, but better (lower emissions).
> Why do you want to encourage the owner from making it better by adding
> more regulations and costs?
>
Fortunately, even the Environut Proselytization Agency is smarter than
Lloyd....
> On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:45:58 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
> wrote:
>>But if you replace the carb, then the pistons, then the exhaust, you've got
>>enough of a new engine that you ought to not still have the exemption that old
>>engines get from emissions standards.
>
>
> Why not?
> It's the same block, but better (lower emissions).
> Why do you want to encourage the owner from making it better by adding
> more regulations and costs?
>
Fortunately, even the Environut Proselytization Agency is smarter than
Lloyd....
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C. E. White wrote:
>
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>
>>When I used "we", I meant those of us who are in the field of science.
>
>
> It is commendable that you have appointed yourself the voice of science. I
> wonder if all scientist would agree with the appointment?
I can answer that right now. I don't. It even says "Scientist" in my job
title. Woohoo for me.
:-)
>
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>
>>When I used "we", I meant those of us who are in the field of science.
>
>
> It is commendable that you have appointed yourself the voice of science. I
> wonder if all scientist would agree with the appointment?
I can answer that right now. I don't. It even says "Scientist" in my job
title. Woohoo for me.
:-)
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C. E. White wrote:
>
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>
>>When I used "we", I meant those of us who are in the field of science.
>
>
> It is commendable that you have appointed yourself the voice of science. I
> wonder if all scientist would agree with the appointment?
I can answer that right now. I don't. It even says "Scientist" in my job
title. Woohoo for me.
:-)
>
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>
>>When I used "we", I meant those of us who are in the field of science.
>
>
> It is commendable that you have appointed yourself the voice of science. I
> wonder if all scientist would agree with the appointment?
I can answer that right now. I don't. It even says "Scientist" in my job
title. Woohoo for me.
:-)
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C. E. White wrote:
>
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>
>>When I used "we", I meant those of us who are in the field of science.
>
>
> It is commendable that you have appointed yourself the voice of science. I
> wonder if all scientist would agree with the appointment?
I can answer that right now. I don't. It even says "Scientist" in my job
title. Woohoo for me.
:-)
>
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>
>>When I used "we", I meant those of us who are in the field of science.
>
>
> It is commendable that you have appointed yourself the voice of science. I
> wonder if all scientist would agree with the appointment?
I can answer that right now. I don't. It even says "Scientist" in my job
title. Woohoo for me.
:-)
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Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Jenn Wasdyke wrote:
>
>
>>>So your perception of Canadian healthcare is based on the experience of a
>>>friend of yours who was warned off the system by some unknown other
>>>individuals.
>>>Mine is based on getting very suddenly struck down with a large and lodged
>>>kidney stone at 4 in the morning while in Toronto. Extremely painful, but
>>>not life threatening. I was diagnosed, treated, operated upon and
>>>prescribed suitable meds in a fast, efficient, capable, thorough manner.
>
>
>>As opposed to the American health care system where kidney stone
>>patients are tossed out on the street and beaten before being put out of
>>their misery...
>
>
> Try getting a lodged kidney stone in America without medical coverage or
> lots of money, then get back to us.
>
> DS
>
Dan, living in America without medical coverage is stupid. I don't have
any patience for people who are deliberately stupid, nor do I want to
subsidize them. Decent health care is affordable here, so let's stick to
comparing someone in the US who HAS coverage (not lots of money) to
someone in Canada. At least you get to PICK your coverage and your
doctor here.
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Jenn Wasdyke wrote:
>
>
>>>So your perception of Canadian healthcare is based on the experience of a
>>>friend of yours who was warned off the system by some unknown other
>>>individuals.
>>>Mine is based on getting very suddenly struck down with a large and lodged
>>>kidney stone at 4 in the morning while in Toronto. Extremely painful, but
>>>not life threatening. I was diagnosed, treated, operated upon and
>>>prescribed suitable meds in a fast, efficient, capable, thorough manner.
>
>
>>As opposed to the American health care system where kidney stone
>>patients are tossed out on the street and beaten before being put out of
>>their misery...
>
>
> Try getting a lodged kidney stone in America without medical coverage or
> lots of money, then get back to us.
>
> DS
>
Dan, living in America without medical coverage is stupid. I don't have
any patience for people who are deliberately stupid, nor do I want to
subsidize them. Decent health care is affordable here, so let's stick to
comparing someone in the US who HAS coverage (not lots of money) to
someone in Canada. At least you get to PICK your coverage and your
doctor here.
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Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Jenn Wasdyke wrote:
>
>
>>>So your perception of Canadian healthcare is based on the experience of a
>>>friend of yours who was warned off the system by some unknown other
>>>individuals.
>>>Mine is based on getting very suddenly struck down with a large and lodged
>>>kidney stone at 4 in the morning while in Toronto. Extremely painful, but
>>>not life threatening. I was diagnosed, treated, operated upon and
>>>prescribed suitable meds in a fast, efficient, capable, thorough manner.
>
>
>>As opposed to the American health care system where kidney stone
>>patients are tossed out on the street and beaten before being put out of
>>their misery...
>
>
> Try getting a lodged kidney stone in America without medical coverage or
> lots of money, then get back to us.
>
> DS
>
Dan, living in America without medical coverage is stupid. I don't have
any patience for people who are deliberately stupid, nor do I want to
subsidize them. Decent health care is affordable here, so let's stick to
comparing someone in the US who HAS coverage (not lots of money) to
someone in Canada. At least you get to PICK your coverage and your
doctor here.
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Jenn Wasdyke wrote:
>
>
>>>So your perception of Canadian healthcare is based on the experience of a
>>>friend of yours who was warned off the system by some unknown other
>>>individuals.
>>>Mine is based on getting very suddenly struck down with a large and lodged
>>>kidney stone at 4 in the morning while in Toronto. Extremely painful, but
>>>not life threatening. I was diagnosed, treated, operated upon and
>>>prescribed suitable meds in a fast, efficient, capable, thorough manner.
>
>
>>As opposed to the American health care system where kidney stone
>>patients are tossed out on the street and beaten before being put out of
>>their misery...
>
>
> Try getting a lodged kidney stone in America without medical coverage or
> lots of money, then get back to us.
>
> DS
>
Dan, living in America without medical coverage is stupid. I don't have
any patience for people who are deliberately stupid, nor do I want to
subsidize them. Decent health care is affordable here, so let's stick to
comparing someone in the US who HAS coverage (not lots of money) to
someone in Canada. At least you get to PICK your coverage and your
doctor here.
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Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Jenn Wasdyke wrote:
>
>
>>>So your perception of Canadian healthcare is based on the experience of a
>>>friend of yours who was warned off the system by some unknown other
>>>individuals.
>>>Mine is based on getting very suddenly struck down with a large and lodged
>>>kidney stone at 4 in the morning while in Toronto. Extremely painful, but
>>>not life threatening. I was diagnosed, treated, operated upon and
>>>prescribed suitable meds in a fast, efficient, capable, thorough manner.
>
>
>>As opposed to the American health care system where kidney stone
>>patients are tossed out on the street and beaten before being put out of
>>their misery...
>
>
> Try getting a lodged kidney stone in America without medical coverage or
> lots of money, then get back to us.
>
> DS
>
Dan, living in America without medical coverage is stupid. I don't have
any patience for people who are deliberately stupid, nor do I want to
subsidize them. Decent health care is affordable here, so let's stick to
comparing someone in the US who HAS coverage (not lots of money) to
someone in Canada. At least you get to PICK your coverage and your
doctor here.
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Jenn Wasdyke wrote:
>
>
>>>So your perception of Canadian healthcare is based on the experience of a
>>>friend of yours who was warned off the system by some unknown other
>>>individuals.
>>>Mine is based on getting very suddenly struck down with a large and lodged
>>>kidney stone at 4 in the morning while in Toronto. Extremely painful, but
>>>not life threatening. I was diagnosed, treated, operated upon and
>>>prescribed suitable meds in a fast, efficient, capable, thorough manner.
>
>
>>As opposed to the American health care system where kidney stone
>>patients are tossed out on the street and beaten before being put out of
>>their misery...
>
>
> Try getting a lodged kidney stone in America without medical coverage or
> lots of money, then get back to us.
>
> DS
>
Dan, living in America without medical coverage is stupid. I don't have
any patience for people who are deliberately stupid, nor do I want to
subsidize them. Decent health care is affordable here, so let's stick to
comparing someone in the US who HAS coverage (not lots of money) to
someone in Canada. At least you get to PICK your coverage and your
doctor here.