Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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Brandon Sommerville wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:06:25 -0700, Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:21:10 GMT, Brandon Sommerville
> ><grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote:
> >
> >>This confuses me greatly. If two men or two women want to be joined
> >>as a family in a marriage, how does it detract from your marriage?
> >
> >It doesn't.
> >
> >Marriage, in our culture (Judeo/Christian) has been historically
> >defined by the religious society, and then codified by the
> >governments.
>
> So change the codification slightly. Instead of specifying that it's
> a man and woman specify that it's two people. Problem solved, no
> other laws need to be changed.
Why should it be only two people? If three consenting people wish to be
married, why discriminate against them?
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:06:25 -0700, Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:21:10 GMT, Brandon Sommerville
> ><grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote:
> >
> >>This confuses me greatly. If two men or two women want to be joined
> >>as a family in a marriage, how does it detract from your marriage?
> >
> >It doesn't.
> >
> >Marriage, in our culture (Judeo/Christian) has been historically
> >defined by the religious society, and then codified by the
> >governments.
>
> So change the codification slightly. Instead of specifying that it's
> a man and woman specify that it's two people. Problem solved, no
> other laws need to be changed.
Why should it be only two people? If three consenting people wish to be
married, why discriminate against them?
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Brandon Sommerville wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:06:25 -0700, Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:21:10 GMT, Brandon Sommerville
> ><grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote:
> >
> >>This confuses me greatly. If two men or two women want to be joined
> >>as a family in a marriage, how does it detract from your marriage?
> >
> >It doesn't.
> >
> >Marriage, in our culture (Judeo/Christian) has been historically
> >defined by the religious society, and then codified by the
> >governments.
>
> So change the codification slightly. Instead of specifying that it's
> a man and woman specify that it's two people. Problem solved, no
> other laws need to be changed.
Why should it be only two people? If three consenting people wish to be
married, why discriminate against them?
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:06:25 -0700, Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:21:10 GMT, Brandon Sommerville
> ><grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote:
> >
> >>This confuses me greatly. If two men or two women want to be joined
> >>as a family in a marriage, how does it detract from your marriage?
> >
> >It doesn't.
> >
> >Marriage, in our culture (Judeo/Christian) has been historically
> >defined by the religious society, and then codified by the
> >governments.
>
> So change the codification slightly. Instead of specifying that it's
> a man and woman specify that it's two people. Problem solved, no
> other laws need to be changed.
Why should it be only two people? If three consenting people wish to be
married, why discriminate against them?
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Brandon Sommerville wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:06:25 -0700, Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:21:10 GMT, Brandon Sommerville
> ><grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote:
> >
> >>This confuses me greatly. If two men or two women want to be joined
> >>as a family in a marriage, how does it detract from your marriage?
> >
> >It doesn't.
> >
> >Marriage, in our culture (Judeo/Christian) has been historically
> >defined by the religious society, and then codified by the
> >governments.
>
> So change the codification slightly. Instead of specifying that it's
> a man and woman specify that it's two people. Problem solved, no
> other laws need to be changed.
Why should it be only two people? If three consenting people wish to be
married, why discriminate against them?
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:06:25 -0700, Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:21:10 GMT, Brandon Sommerville
> ><grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote:
> >
> >>This confuses me greatly. If two men or two women want to be joined
> >>as a family in a marriage, how does it detract from your marriage?
> >
> >It doesn't.
> >
> >Marriage, in our culture (Judeo/Christian) has been historically
> >defined by the religious society, and then codified by the
> >governments.
>
> So change the codification slightly. Instead of specifying that it's
> a man and woman specify that it's two people. Problem solved, no
> other laws need to be changed.
Why should it be only two people? If three consenting people wish to be
married, why discriminate against them?
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In article <Pine.SOL.4.44.0312032057380.21202-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu>,
Daniel J. Stern <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>So your perception of Canadian healthcare is based on the experience of a
>friend of yours who was warned off the system by some unknown other
>individuals.
>
>Mine is based on getting very suddenly struck down with a large and lodged
>kidney stone at 4 in the morning while in Toronto. Extremely painful, but
>not life threatening. I was diagnosed, treated, operated upon and
>prescribed suitable meds in a fast, efficient, capable, thorough manner.
And you'd likely get the same in the US. Both system can handle the
more common stuff.
For the less usual stuff -- apparently the wait for hip arthroscopy is
at least 3 years. Both Canada's detractors and supporters point to
the much larger number of MRIs in the US, which means a longer wait
for diagnosis in Canada as well.
--
Matthew T. Russotto mrussotto@speakeasy.net
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.
Daniel J. Stern <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>So your perception of Canadian healthcare is based on the experience of a
>friend of yours who was warned off the system by some unknown other
>individuals.
>
>Mine is based on getting very suddenly struck down with a large and lodged
>kidney stone at 4 in the morning while in Toronto. Extremely painful, but
>not life threatening. I was diagnosed, treated, operated upon and
>prescribed suitable meds in a fast, efficient, capable, thorough manner.
And you'd likely get the same in the US. Both system can handle the
more common stuff.
For the less usual stuff -- apparently the wait for hip arthroscopy is
at least 3 years. Both Canada's detractors and supporters point to
the much larger number of MRIs in the US, which means a longer wait
for diagnosis in Canada as well.
--
Matthew T. Russotto mrussotto@speakeasy.net
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.
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In article <Pine.SOL.4.44.0312032057380.21202-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu>,
Daniel J. Stern <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>So your perception of Canadian healthcare is based on the experience of a
>friend of yours who was warned off the system by some unknown other
>individuals.
>
>Mine is based on getting very suddenly struck down with a large and lodged
>kidney stone at 4 in the morning while in Toronto. Extremely painful, but
>not life threatening. I was diagnosed, treated, operated upon and
>prescribed suitable meds in a fast, efficient, capable, thorough manner.
And you'd likely get the same in the US. Both system can handle the
more common stuff.
For the less usual stuff -- apparently the wait for hip arthroscopy is
at least 3 years. Both Canada's detractors and supporters point to
the much larger number of MRIs in the US, which means a longer wait
for diagnosis in Canada as well.
--
Matthew T. Russotto mrussotto@speakeasy.net
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.
Daniel J. Stern <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>So your perception of Canadian healthcare is based on the experience of a
>friend of yours who was warned off the system by some unknown other
>individuals.
>
>Mine is based on getting very suddenly struck down with a large and lodged
>kidney stone at 4 in the morning while in Toronto. Extremely painful, but
>not life threatening. I was diagnosed, treated, operated upon and
>prescribed suitable meds in a fast, efficient, capable, thorough manner.
And you'd likely get the same in the US. Both system can handle the
more common stuff.
For the less usual stuff -- apparently the wait for hip arthroscopy is
at least 3 years. Both Canada's detractors and supporters point to
the much larger number of MRIs in the US, which means a longer wait
for diagnosis in Canada as well.
--
Matthew T. Russotto mrussotto@speakeasy.net
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.
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In article <Pine.SOL.4.44.0312032057380.21202-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu>,
Daniel J. Stern <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>So your perception of Canadian healthcare is based on the experience of a
>friend of yours who was warned off the system by some unknown other
>individuals.
>
>Mine is based on getting very suddenly struck down with a large and lodged
>kidney stone at 4 in the morning while in Toronto. Extremely painful, but
>not life threatening. I was diagnosed, treated, operated upon and
>prescribed suitable meds in a fast, efficient, capable, thorough manner.
And you'd likely get the same in the US. Both system can handle the
more common stuff.
For the less usual stuff -- apparently the wait for hip arthroscopy is
at least 3 years. Both Canada's detractors and supporters point to
the much larger number of MRIs in the US, which means a longer wait
for diagnosis in Canada as well.
--
Matthew T. Russotto mrussotto@speakeasy.net
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.
Daniel J. Stern <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>So your perception of Canadian healthcare is based on the experience of a
>friend of yours who was warned off the system by some unknown other
>individuals.
>
>Mine is based on getting very suddenly struck down with a large and lodged
>kidney stone at 4 in the morning while in Toronto. Extremely painful, but
>not life threatening. I was diagnosed, treated, operated upon and
>prescribed suitable meds in a fast, efficient, capable, thorough manner.
And you'd likely get the same in the US. Both system can handle the
more common stuff.
For the less usual stuff -- apparently the wait for hip arthroscopy is
at least 3 years. Both Canada's detractors and supporters point to
the much larger number of MRIs in the US, which means a longer wait
for diagnosis in Canada as well.
--
Matthew T. Russotto mrussotto@speakeasy.net
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.
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Can't you three or four guys that are continuing this thread find some
common group to post to, rather than all of this crossposting?
Try alt.argumentative.idiots.wont.give.up
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Can't you three or four guys that are continuing this thread find some
common group to post to, rather than all of this crossposting?
Try alt.argumentative.idiots.wont.give.up
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Can't you three or four guys that are continuing this thread find some
common group to post to, rather than all of this crossposting?
Try alt.argumentative.idiots.wont.give.up
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Lloyd Parker wrote:
> Heaven forbid people should read the 9th amendment.
Reading it is not enough. You need to understand it - which apparently is not so
easy.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/c...n/amendment09/
Regards,
Ed White


