On Tue, 02 Dec 03 13:57:22 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:

>In article <4tgpsv0qjj3fk9mq5t2goiuibmpnu8k64r@4ax.com>,
> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 05:17:32 GMT, "David J. Allen"
>><dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Reminds me of my experience in a country a few years ago that had "free"
>>>(i.e., rationed) medical care for all. The demand for care outstripped the
>>>supply and the only people who got decent medical care were the people with
>>>money, who could pay for a private doctor. Everyone else had to go wait in
>>>line at the clinic and hope for decent care.
>>
>>Well, Hillary's solution would have fixed that; any doctor caught
>>giving care outside the approved system would be liable to legal
>>prosecution, with penalties including fines, jail time & loss of
>>license.
>
>That's a lie. That was never, ever part of any proposal. The plan was
>similar to Canada's -- a single payer, with anyone being able to purchase
>additional private insurance. What was banned was selling insurance that
>covered the SAME thing the government plan would already cover.

No lie.
It was called "Managed Competition".
Look it up, and learn.
>
>>A true utopia.
>>>
>>>This is the template one could overlay anything. Energy, Healthcare, Food,
>>>etc., etc. Those who support Kyoto are lefties and the farther left you go,
>>>the more strident the support for Kyoto. The "rich" are the ones one need
>>>to be reigned in so the "poor" will have a chance.
>>

--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"

 

On Tue, 02 Dec 03 13:57:22 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:

>In article <4tgpsv0qjj3fk9mq5t2goiuibmpnu8k64r@4ax.com>,
> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 05:17:32 GMT, "David J. Allen"
>><dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Reminds me of my experience in a country a few years ago that had "free"
>>>(i.e., rationed) medical care for all. The demand for care outstripped the
>>>supply and the only people who got decent medical care were the people with
>>>money, who could pay for a private doctor. Everyone else had to go wait in
>>>line at the clinic and hope for decent care.
>>
>>Well, Hillary's solution would have fixed that; any doctor caught
>>giving care outside the approved system would be liable to legal
>>prosecution, with penalties including fines, jail time & loss of
>>license.
>
>That's a lie. That was never, ever part of any proposal. The plan was
>similar to Canada's -- a single payer, with anyone being able to purchase
>additional private insurance. What was banned was selling insurance that
>covered the SAME thing the government plan would already cover.

No lie.
It was called "Managed Competition".
Look it up, and learn.
>
>>A true utopia.
>>>
>>>This is the template one could overlay anything. Energy, Healthcare, Food,
>>>etc., etc. Those who support Kyoto are lefties and the farther left you go,
>>>the more strident the support for Kyoto. The "rich" are the ones one need
>>>to be reigned in so the "poor" will have a chance.
>>

--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bqiml8$him$3@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <SNLyb.60941$t01.26184@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> "David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >"z" <gzuckier@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:b5b4685f.0312010806.78d80d53@posting.google. com...
> >> "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> wrote in message
> >news:<bqbpqa021gd@enews2.newsguy.com>...
> >> > > I'd rather take my chances with global warming rather than turn
> >control
> >> > over to the wackos who have grabbed onto the global warming scenario
as
> >a
> >> > way to force the implementation of their ideas of how I should live.
If
> >> > global warming wasn't
> >> > available, the wackos would have to create it, or something else like
it
> >so
> >> > they can have an excuse for forcing the implementation of their
ideas.>
> >> >
> >> > Bravo, Ed! These people are attempting to impose their own social
> >> > reengineering upon everyone based upon their own crypto-communist
> >ideals.
> >> > They hate capitalism and the abilities of free peoples to do as they
> >choose.
> >> > They latched onto this madness when people actually took them
seriously
> >30
> >> > years ago that a "new ice age" was upon us, when that fell apart they
> >> > concocted this latest scam. The more people pillory these arrogant
> >bastards
> >> > the better off we'll all be.
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah, that's a requirement for a grant, like your predecessors here
> >> say. You have to say 'and if funded, this project will destroy
> >> capitalism and further the crypto-communist agenda, destroying the
> >> middle class life style of myself and others like me and my family'.
> >> Bravo, you've figured it out. Down with science!!!
> >
> >This is the strategy of the left. When they find them on the wrong side
of
> >morality, they redefine morality. Now it's science. If you disagree
with
> >the "science" of global warming (and the global disaster it leads to)
then
> >you reject science. Likewise, morality is no longer fidelity, honesty,
> >personal responsibility. It's now support for the policies of the left,
> >like gay marriage and adopting the Kyoto protocol.
>
> Spoken like a good little creationist.
>
> >
> >The groups standing behind extreme environmentalists are Socialists and
> >Communists. They are idealogical siblings to protect people from "evil
> >corporations".
> >
> >
> And the folks standing behind you and your ilk are Fascists and *****.
Want
> to call names? OK.

There aren't any names bad enough to call you Lloyd, you are beyond totally,
hopelessly braindead, the last time you had an intelligent thought was when
you decided to further your education, although your Daddy probably made
that decision for you, and did your work for you so you could pass. Do you
appoint one of your students to teach your classes for you, so your
stupidity won't be revealed?

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bqiml8$him$3@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <SNLyb.60941$t01.26184@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> "David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >"z" <gzuckier@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:b5b4685f.0312010806.78d80d53@posting.google. com...
> >> "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> wrote in message
> >news:<bqbpqa021gd@enews2.newsguy.com>...
> >> > > I'd rather take my chances with global warming rather than turn
> >control
> >> > over to the wackos who have grabbed onto the global warming scenario
as
> >a
> >> > way to force the implementation of their ideas of how I should live.
If
> >> > global warming wasn't
> >> > available, the wackos would have to create it, or something else like
it
> >so
> >> > they can have an excuse for forcing the implementation of their
ideas.>
> >> >
> >> > Bravo, Ed! These people are attempting to impose their own social
> >> > reengineering upon everyone based upon their own crypto-communist
> >ideals.
> >> > They hate capitalism and the abilities of free peoples to do as they
> >choose.
> >> > They latched onto this madness when people actually took them
seriously
> >30
> >> > years ago that a "new ice age" was upon us, when that fell apart they
> >> > concocted this latest scam. The more people pillory these arrogant
> >bastards
> >> > the better off we'll all be.
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah, that's a requirement for a grant, like your predecessors here
> >> say. You have to say 'and if funded, this project will destroy
> >> capitalism and further the crypto-communist agenda, destroying the
> >> middle class life style of myself and others like me and my family'.
> >> Bravo, you've figured it out. Down with science!!!
> >
> >This is the strategy of the left. When they find them on the wrong side
of
> >morality, they redefine morality. Now it's science. If you disagree
with
> >the "science" of global warming (and the global disaster it leads to)
then
> >you reject science. Likewise, morality is no longer fidelity, honesty,
> >personal responsibility. It's now support for the policies of the left,
> >like gay marriage and adopting the Kyoto protocol.
>
> Spoken like a good little creationist.
>
> >
> >The groups standing behind extreme environmentalists are Socialists and
> >Communists. They are idealogical siblings to protect people from "evil
> >corporations".
> >
> >
> And the folks standing behind you and your ilk are Fascists and *****.
Want
> to call names? OK.

There aren't any names bad enough to call you Lloyd, you are beyond totally,
hopelessly braindead, the last time you had an intelligent thought was when
you decided to further your education, although your Daddy probably made
that decision for you, and did your work for you so you could pass. Do you
appoint one of your students to teach your classes for you, so your
stupidity won't be revealed?

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bqiml8$him$3@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <SNLyb.60941$t01.26184@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> "David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >"z" <gzuckier@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:b5b4685f.0312010806.78d80d53@posting.google. com...
> >> "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> wrote in message
> >news:<bqbpqa021gd@enews2.newsguy.com>...
> >> > > I'd rather take my chances with global warming rather than turn
> >control
> >> > over to the wackos who have grabbed onto the global warming scenario
as
> >a
> >> > way to force the implementation of their ideas of how I should live.
If
> >> > global warming wasn't
> >> > available, the wackos would have to create it, or something else like
it
> >so
> >> > they can have an excuse for forcing the implementation of their
ideas.>
> >> >
> >> > Bravo, Ed! These people are attempting to impose their own social
> >> > reengineering upon everyone based upon their own crypto-communist
> >ideals.
> >> > They hate capitalism and the abilities of free peoples to do as they
> >choose.
> >> > They latched onto this madness when people actually took them
seriously
> >30
> >> > years ago that a "new ice age" was upon us, when that fell apart they
> >> > concocted this latest scam. The more people pillory these arrogant
> >bastards
> >> > the better off we'll all be.
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah, that's a requirement for a grant, like your predecessors here
> >> say. You have to say 'and if funded, this project will destroy
> >> capitalism and further the crypto-communist agenda, destroying the
> >> middle class life style of myself and others like me and my family'.
> >> Bravo, you've figured it out. Down with science!!!
> >
> >This is the strategy of the left. When they find them on the wrong side
of
> >morality, they redefine morality. Now it's science. If you disagree
with
> >the "science" of global warming (and the global disaster it leads to)
then
> >you reject science. Likewise, morality is no longer fidelity, honesty,
> >personal responsibility. It's now support for the policies of the left,
> >like gay marriage and adopting the Kyoto protocol.
>
> Spoken like a good little creationist.
>
> >
> >The groups standing behind extreme environmentalists are Socialists and
> >Communists. They are idealogical siblings to protect people from "evil
> >corporations".
> >
> >
> And the folks standing behind you and your ilk are Fascists and *****.
Want
> to call names? OK.

There aren't any names bad enough to call you Lloyd, you are beyond totally,
hopelessly braindead, the last time you had an intelligent thought was when
you decided to further your education, although your Daddy probably made
that decision for you, and did your work for you so you could pass. Do you
appoint one of your students to teach your classes for you, so your
stupidity won't be revealed?

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bqit92$of5$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <MK5zb.46$rE3.8@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> "David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >> Yeah, that's a requirement for a grant, like your predecessors here
> >> >> say. You have to say 'and if funded, this project will destroy
> >> >> capitalism and further the crypto-communist agenda, destroying the
> >> >> middle class life style of myself and others like me and my family'.
> >> >> Bravo, you've figured it out. Down with science!!!
> >> >
> >> >This is the strategy of the left. When they find them on the wrong
side
> >of
> >> >morality, they redefine morality. Now it's science. If you disagree
> >with
> >> >the "science" of global warming (and the global disaster it leads to)
> >then
> >> >you reject science. Likewise, morality is no longer fidelity,
honesty,
> >> >personal responsibility. It's now support for the policies of the
left,
> >> >like gay marriage and adopting the Kyoto protocol.
> >>
> >> Spoken like a good little creationist.
> >>
> >
> >Who? Me? I don't buy into "Creation Science". But the lefts
redefinition
> >of "morality" and "science" is no different than what Creationists do to
> >force fit science into Genesis. Only it's force fit of science (and
> >religion) into anti-capitalism.
>
> No, you reject facts that don't fit your dogma. That's creationism.

Surprise surprise Lloyd, that is exactly what you do, reject any facts that
aren't pre-approved for you by your Liberal buddies.
That's stupidity, which describes you to a "T".

>
> >
> >> >
> >> >The groups standing behind extreme environmentalists are Socialists
and
> >> >Communists. They are idealogical siblings to protect people from
"evil
> >> >corporations".
> >> >
> >> >
> >> And the folks standing behind you and your ilk are Fascists and *****.
> >Want
> >> to call names? OK.
> >
> >Not at all. When you see who shows up to those anti-globalist
> >(anti-corporate) demonstrations you see Socialist signs and booths all
over
> >the place. No "name" calling was intended. And if you're looking for
nasty
> >names to fit conservatives, you're really missing the mark with Fascist
and
> >****. Those are on the opposite side of the political spectrum, away
from
> >limited government.
>
> So are conservatives -- telling people what kind of --- to have, what
genders
> can marry, what a woman can do with her body, etc.
>
>

You are a sick excuse for a human lloyd, why don't you go visit Nate?

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bqit92$of5$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <MK5zb.46$rE3.8@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> "David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >> Yeah, that's a requirement for a grant, like your predecessors here
> >> >> say. You have to say 'and if funded, this project will destroy
> >> >> capitalism and further the crypto-communist agenda, destroying the
> >> >> middle class life style of myself and others like me and my family'.
> >> >> Bravo, you've figured it out. Down with science!!!
> >> >
> >> >This is the strategy of the left. When they find them on the wrong
side
> >of
> >> >morality, they redefine morality. Now it's science. If you disagree
> >with
> >> >the "science" of global warming (and the global disaster it leads to)
> >then
> >> >you reject science. Likewise, morality is no longer fidelity,
honesty,
> >> >personal responsibility. It's now support for the policies of the
left,
> >> >like gay marriage and adopting the Kyoto protocol.
> >>
> >> Spoken like a good little creationist.
> >>
> >
> >Who? Me? I don't buy into "Creation Science". But the lefts
redefinition
> >of "morality" and "science" is no different than what Creationists do to
> >force fit science into Genesis. Only it's force fit of science (and
> >religion) into anti-capitalism.
>
> No, you reject facts that don't fit your dogma. That's creationism.

Surprise surprise Lloyd, that is exactly what you do, reject any facts that
aren't pre-approved for you by your Liberal buddies.
That's stupidity, which describes you to a "T".

>
> >
> >> >
> >> >The groups standing behind extreme environmentalists are Socialists
and
> >> >Communists. They are idealogical siblings to protect people from
"evil
> >> >corporations".
> >> >
> >> >
> >> And the folks standing behind you and your ilk are Fascists and *****.
> >Want
> >> to call names? OK.
> >
> >Not at all. When you see who shows up to those anti-globalist
> >(anti-corporate) demonstrations you see Socialist signs and booths all
over
> >the place. No "name" calling was intended. And if you're looking for
nasty
> >names to fit conservatives, you're really missing the mark with Fascist
and
> >****. Those are on the opposite side of the political spectrum, away
from
> >limited government.
>
> So are conservatives -- telling people what kind of --- to have, what
genders
> can marry, what a woman can do with her body, etc.
>
>

You are a sick excuse for a human lloyd, why don't you go visit Nate?

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bqit92$of5$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <MK5zb.46$rE3.8@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> "David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >> Yeah, that's a requirement for a grant, like your predecessors here
> >> >> say. You have to say 'and if funded, this project will destroy
> >> >> capitalism and further the crypto-communist agenda, destroying the
> >> >> middle class life style of myself and others like me and my family'.
> >> >> Bravo, you've figured it out. Down with science!!!
> >> >
> >> >This is the strategy of the left. When they find them on the wrong
side
> >of
> >> >morality, they redefine morality. Now it's science. If you disagree
> >with
> >> >the "science" of global warming (and the global disaster it leads to)
> >then
> >> >you reject science. Likewise, morality is no longer fidelity,
honesty,
> >> >personal responsibility. It's now support for the policies of the
left,
> >> >like gay marriage and adopting the Kyoto protocol.
> >>
> >> Spoken like a good little creationist.
> >>
> >
> >Who? Me? I don't buy into "Creation Science". But the lefts
redefinition
> >of "morality" and "science" is no different than what Creationists do to
> >force fit science into Genesis. Only it's force fit of science (and
> >religion) into anti-capitalism.
>
> No, you reject facts that don't fit your dogma. That's creationism.

Surprise surprise Lloyd, that is exactly what you do, reject any facts that
aren't pre-approved for you by your Liberal buddies.
That's stupidity, which describes you to a "T".

>
> >
> >> >
> >> >The groups standing behind extreme environmentalists are Socialists
and
> >> >Communists. They are idealogical siblings to protect people from
"evil
> >> >corporations".
> >> >
> >> >
> >> And the folks standing behind you and your ilk are Fascists and *****.
> >Want
> >> to call names? OK.
> >
> >Not at all. When you see who shows up to those anti-globalist
> >(anti-corporate) demonstrations you see Socialist signs and booths all
over
> >the place. No "name" calling was intended. And if you're looking for
nasty
> >names to fit conservatives, you're really missing the mark with Fascist
and
> >****. Those are on the opposite side of the political spectrum, away
from
> >limited government.
>
> So are conservatives -- telling people what kind of --- to have, what
genders
> can marry, what a woman can do with her body, etc.
>
>

You are a sick excuse for a human lloyd, why don't you go visit Nate?

 

On Tue, 02 Dec 03 13:44:06 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:

>>Right. Peer reviewed grants are adjudicated and funded by established
>>scientists in a field, not on the basis of scientific validity or
>>track record, but on the basis of how much hysteria is in the grant
>>proposal.
>
>A total, flat-out lie.

Lloyd, you incredible imbicile, your reading comprehension still
sucks.
Get a clue.
Look up 'sarcasm'.

--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"

 

On Tue, 02 Dec 03 13:44:06 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:

>>Right. Peer reviewed grants are adjudicated and funded by established
>>scientists in a field, not on the basis of scientific validity or
>>track record, but on the basis of how much hysteria is in the grant
>>proposal.
>
>A total, flat-out lie.

Lloyd, you incredible imbicile, your reading comprehension still
sucks.
Get a clue.
Look up 'sarcasm'.

--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"