Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <pXmkb.2271$np1.2060@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
spammersdie@slowlyandpainfully.com says...
> >
> > So tells us oh great one, what car do you drive that can out climb, out
> > tow, has greater cargo capacity and can handle deeper snow than whatever
> > truck any of us is driving.
> >
>
> Repeal CAFE and ask us again in about ten years. -Dave
>
>
>
Repeal CAFE and what, bring back the 454cu "family sedan"? Now there's
a plan. Offer it in 4wd and maybe I'll buy one.
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spammersdie@slowlyandpainfully.com says...
> >
> > So tells us oh great one, what car do you drive that can out climb, out
> > tow, has greater cargo capacity and can handle deeper snow than whatever
> > truck any of us is driving.
> >
>
> Repeal CAFE and ask us again in about ten years. -Dave
>
>
>
Repeal CAFE and what, bring back the 454cu "family sedan"? Now there's
a plan. Offer it in 4wd and maybe I'll buy one.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Dave C." <spammersdie@slowlyandpainfully.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > SUVs get 8mpg. Ya that's a good generalization. Keep'em coming.
>
> Actually, that's pretty accurate, if we're talking about the SUVs that
SELL
> WELL. The ones that get good mileage are enough like cars that they don't
> appeal to SUV buyers. -Dave
>
My 91 GMC K2500 pickup with a 350 engine gets 17.6 MPG highway and you think
saying an SUV geting 8 MPG is accurate?
Just what SUV are you thinking of here?
Even the largest of them should get 14 or better, though I don't have
accurate numbers handy at the moment.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Dave C." <spammersdie@slowlyandpainfully.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > SUVs get 8mpg. Ya that's a good generalization. Keep'em coming.
>
> Actually, that's pretty accurate, if we're talking about the SUVs that
SELL
> WELL. The ones that get good mileage are enough like cars that they don't
> appeal to SUV buyers. -Dave
>
My 91 GMC K2500 pickup with a 350 engine gets 17.6 MPG highway and you think
saying an SUV geting 8 MPG is accurate?
Just what SUV are you thinking of here?
Even the largest of them should get 14 or better, though I don't have
accurate numbers handy at the moment.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Dave C." <spammersdie@slowlyandpainfully.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > SUVs get 8mpg. Ya that's a good generalization. Keep'em coming.
>
> Actually, that's pretty accurate, if we're talking about the SUVs that
SELL
> WELL. The ones that get good mileage are enough like cars that they don't
> appeal to SUV buyers. -Dave
>
My 91 GMC K2500 pickup with a 350 engine gets 17.6 MPG highway and you think
saying an SUV geting 8 MPG is accurate?
Just what SUV are you thinking of here?
Even the largest of them should get 14 or better, though I don't have
accurate numbers handy at the moment.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
We can dream, can't of muscle car power, that chirp rubber in every
gear on normal automatic acceleration. With destruction derby type
bumpers we could use a jack on and actually jack up the car. :-) Oh
wait, I still own one: http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Chris Phillipo wrote:
>
> Repeal CAFE and what, bring back the 454cu "family sedan"? Now there's
> a plan. Offer it in 4wd and maybe I'll buy one.
> --
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gear on normal automatic acceleration. With destruction derby type
bumpers we could use a jack on and actually jack up the car. :-) Oh
wait, I still own one: http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Chris Phillipo wrote:
>
> Repeal CAFE and what, bring back the 454cu "family sedan"? Now there's
> a plan. Offer it in 4wd and maybe I'll buy one.
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
We can dream, can't of muscle car power, that chirp rubber in every
gear on normal automatic acceleration. With destruction derby type
bumpers we could use a jack on and actually jack up the car. :-) Oh
wait, I still own one: http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Chris Phillipo wrote:
>
> Repeal CAFE and what, bring back the 454cu "family sedan"? Now there's
> a plan. Offer it in 4wd and maybe I'll buy one.
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
gear on normal automatic acceleration. With destruction derby type
bumpers we could use a jack on and actually jack up the car. :-) Oh
wait, I still own one: http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Chris Phillipo wrote:
>
> Repeal CAFE and what, bring back the 454cu "family sedan"? Now there's
> a plan. Offer it in 4wd and maybe I'll buy one.
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
We can dream, can't of muscle car power, that chirp rubber in every
gear on normal automatic acceleration. With destruction derby type
bumpers we could use a jack on and actually jack up the car. :-) Oh
wait, I still own one: http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Chris Phillipo wrote:
>
> Repeal CAFE and what, bring back the 454cu "family sedan"? Now there's
> a plan. Offer it in 4wd and maybe I'll buy one.
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
gear on normal automatic acceleration. With destruction derby type
bumpers we could use a jack on and actually jack up the car. :-) Oh
wait, I still own one: http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Chris Phillipo wrote:
>
> Repeal CAFE and what, bring back the 454cu "family sedan"? Now there's
> a plan. Offer it in 4wd and maybe I'll buy one.
> --
> ____________________
> Remove "X" from email address to reply.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <newscache$0x5ymh$13o1$1@news.ipinc.net>, Ted Mittelstaedt
wrote:
>
> > This may be true, but CAFE has also saved lives, because forcing
vehicles
> > to use less fuel helps to reduce pollution, and thus fewer people dying
each
> > year as a result of pollution-related illnesses. Most likely the lives
lost by
> > one thing are balanced by the other.
>
> The pollution requirements are gram per mile. Honda civic or Ford crown
> victoria, they have to meet the same standard. The only people who die
> from CO2 are in a sealed room and don't have to worry about the cars
> going down the road.
>
It's not just the Carbon Dioxide and Carbon Monoxide from car exhaust
that is the problem. As you mention those aren't a health problem
(particularly
since carbom monoxide breaks down rapidly in the environment)
The big killer is Nitrogen Oxide and the particulates. NOX goes up and
destroys
the ozone layer
You have got to be kidding if you think that auto exhaust isn't toxic. But
obviously you do, and your going to keep believing it no matter that the
facts are otherwise.
For the non-morons in the group that are actually willing to listen, see the
following:
http://www.epa.gov/airtrends/sixpoll.html
and while your at it, take a look here for the estimated deaths as a result
of air pollution:
http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/nata/maprisk.html
Ted
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:UTlkb.174134$%h1.168048@sccrnsc02...
> In article <newscache$0x5ymh$13o1$1@news.ipinc.net>, Ted Mittelstaedt
wrote:
>
> > This may be true, but CAFE has also saved lives, because forcing
vehicles
> > to use less fuel helps to reduce pollution, and thus fewer people dying
each
> > year as a result of pollution-related illnesses. Most likely the lives
lost by
> > one thing are balanced by the other.
>
> The pollution requirements are gram per mile. Honda civic or Ford crown
> victoria, they have to meet the same standard. The only people who die
> from CO2 are in a sealed room and don't have to worry about the cars
> going down the road.
>
It's not just the Carbon Dioxide and Carbon Monoxide from car exhaust
that is the problem. As you mention those aren't a health problem
(particularly
since carbom monoxide breaks down rapidly in the environment)
The big killer is Nitrogen Oxide and the particulates. NOX goes up and
destroys
the ozone layer
You have got to be kidding if you think that auto exhaust isn't toxic. But
obviously you do, and your going to keep believing it no matter that the
facts are otherwise.
For the non-morons in the group that are actually willing to listen, see the
following:
http://www.epa.gov/airtrends/sixpoll.html
and while your at it, take a look here for the estimated deaths as a result
of air pollution:
http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/nata/maprisk.html
Ted
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:UTlkb.174134$%h1.168048@sccrnsc02...
> In article <newscache$0x5ymh$13o1$1@news.ipinc.net>, Ted Mittelstaedt
wrote:
>
> > This may be true, but CAFE has also saved lives, because forcing
vehicles
> > to use less fuel helps to reduce pollution, and thus fewer people dying
each
> > year as a result of pollution-related illnesses. Most likely the lives
lost by
> > one thing are balanced by the other.
>
> The pollution requirements are gram per mile. Honda civic or Ford crown
> victoria, they have to meet the same standard. The only people who die
> from CO2 are in a sealed room and don't have to worry about the cars
> going down the road.
>
It's not just the Carbon Dioxide and Carbon Monoxide from car exhaust
that is the problem. As you mention those aren't a health problem
(particularly
since carbom monoxide breaks down rapidly in the environment)
The big killer is Nitrogen Oxide and the particulates. NOX goes up and
destroys
the ozone layer
You have got to be kidding if you think that auto exhaust isn't toxic. But
obviously you do, and your going to keep believing it no matter that the
facts are otherwise.
For the non-morons in the group that are actually willing to listen, see the
following:
http://www.epa.gov/airtrends/sixpoll.html
and while your at it, take a look here for the estimated deaths as a result
of air pollution:
http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/nata/maprisk.html
Ted