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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
"Bill Funk" <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:02:37 -0500, Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net>
> wrote:
>
> >> what a woman can do with her body, etc.
> >
> >When I and others are forced to pay for the consequences, yes. Don't
> >make me and others pay for the consequences for her behavior, and I'll
> >quit telling her what she can and can't do that I and others will have
> >to pay for later.
>
> I always found the argument that we can't tell a woman what to do with
> her body rather strange.
> We most certainly can, and do, just that: it's illegal for a woman to
> use illegal drugs on/in her body, for example. That destroys the
> argument right there.
Prostitution is illegal as well, even though the women make the choice what
to do with their bodies, the government tells them they can't. What's your
answer to this Lloyd?
>
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:56:52 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
>>You're free to pay for their healthcare any time you want. But what
>>idiot believes that they have the right to reach into my pocket and take
>>what is mine (it's called stealing). So - really - who is preventing
>>you and anyone who feels that way from paying for the treatment of these
>>people? You have that right, as do I - but by freedom of will - not by
>>confiscation.
>>
>
>It's called living in a society. Society has the right to compel you to pay
>taxes, and it's the height of idiocy to call it stealing or theft. If you
>don't want to live in a society, you can leave. Nobody's keeping you here.
That assumes that all taxes are for legimitate purposes.
And that's hardly the case.
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>>You're free to pay for their healthcare any time you want. But what
>>idiot believes that they have the right to reach into my pocket and take
>>what is mine (it's called stealing). So - really - who is preventing
>>you and anyone who feels that way from paying for the treatment of these
>>people? You have that right, as do I - but by freedom of will - not by
>>confiscation.
>>
>
>It's called living in a society. Society has the right to compel you to pay
>taxes, and it's the height of idiocy to call it stealing or theft. If you
>don't want to live in a society, you can leave. Nobody's keeping you here.
That assumes that all taxes are for legimitate purposes.
And that's hardly the case.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:56:52 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
>>You're free to pay for their healthcare any time you want. But what
>>idiot believes that they have the right to reach into my pocket and take
>>what is mine (it's called stealing). So - really - who is preventing
>>you and anyone who feels that way from paying for the treatment of these
>>people? You have that right, as do I - but by freedom of will - not by
>>confiscation.
>>
>
>It's called living in a society. Society has the right to compel you to pay
>taxes, and it's the height of idiocy to call it stealing or theft. If you
>don't want to live in a society, you can leave. Nobody's keeping you here.
That assumes that all taxes are for legimitate purposes.
And that's hardly the case.
--
Bill Funk
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wrote:
>>You're free to pay for their healthcare any time you want. But what
>>idiot believes that they have the right to reach into my pocket and take
>>what is mine (it's called stealing). So - really - who is preventing
>>you and anyone who feels that way from paying for the treatment of these
>>people? You have that right, as do I - but by freedom of will - not by
>>confiscation.
>>
>
>It's called living in a society. Society has the right to compel you to pay
>taxes, and it's the height of idiocy to call it stealing or theft. If you
>don't want to live in a society, you can leave. Nobody's keeping you here.
That assumes that all taxes are for legimitate purposes.
And that's hardly the case.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:56:52 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
>>You're free to pay for their healthcare any time you want. But what
>>idiot believes that they have the right to reach into my pocket and take
>>what is mine (it's called stealing). So - really - who is preventing
>>you and anyone who feels that way from paying for the treatment of these
>>people? You have that right, as do I - but by freedom of will - not by
>>confiscation.
>>
>
>It's called living in a society. Society has the right to compel you to pay
>taxes, and it's the height of idiocy to call it stealing or theft. If you
>don't want to live in a society, you can leave. Nobody's keeping you here.
That assumes that all taxes are for legimitate purposes.
And that's hardly the case.
--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"
wrote:
>>You're free to pay for their healthcare any time you want. But what
>>idiot believes that they have the right to reach into my pocket and take
>>what is mine (it's called stealing). So - really - who is preventing
>>you and anyone who feels that way from paying for the treatment of these
>>people? You have that right, as do I - but by freedom of will - not by
>>confiscation.
>>
>
>It's called living in a society. Society has the right to compel you to pay
>taxes, and it's the height of idiocy to call it stealing or theft. If you
>don't want to live in a society, you can leave. Nobody's keeping you here.
That assumes that all taxes are for legimitate purposes.
And that's hardly the case.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:54:53 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
>In article <2c7qsvgrtldnv0d50g0u57c2j0cadcc7if@4ax.com>,
> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:37:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
>>> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>>>health
>>>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for
>insurance
>>>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>>>
>>>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and Japan,
>>>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover everybody?
>>
>>Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
>>canadian health care problems
>>This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
>>friends promise.
>>
>
>Oh great, he wants me to absorb his right-wing propaganda.
>
>Try this:
>
>http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.e.../HealthCare/Co
>nsumerReports-Sep92.html.gz#Does%20Canada%20Have%20The%20Answer?
Consumer Reports???
You've GOT to be kidding.
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wrote:
>In article <2c7qsvgrtldnv0d50g0u57c2j0cadcc7if@4ax.com>,
> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:37:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
>>> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>>>health
>>>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for
>insurance
>>>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>>>
>>>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and Japan,
>>>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover everybody?
>>
>>Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
>>canadian health care problems
>>This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
>>friends promise.
>>
>
>Oh great, he wants me to absorb his right-wing propaganda.
>
>Try this:
>
>http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.e.../HealthCare/Co
>nsumerReports-Sep92.html.gz#Does%20Canada%20Have%20The%20Answer?
Consumer Reports???
You've GOT to be kidding.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:54:53 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
>In article <2c7qsvgrtldnv0d50g0u57c2j0cadcc7if@4ax.com>,
> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:37:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
>>> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>>>health
>>>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for
>insurance
>>>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>>>
>>>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and Japan,
>>>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover everybody?
>>
>>Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
>>canadian health care problems
>>This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
>>friends promise.
>>
>
>Oh great, he wants me to absorb his right-wing propaganda.
>
>Try this:
>
>http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.e.../HealthCare/Co
>nsumerReports-Sep92.html.gz#Does%20Canada%20Have%20The%20Answer?
Consumer Reports???
You've GOT to be kidding.
--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"
wrote:
>In article <2c7qsvgrtldnv0d50g0u57c2j0cadcc7if@4ax.com>,
> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:37:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
>>> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>>>health
>>>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for
>insurance
>>>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>>>
>>>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and Japan,
>>>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover everybody?
>>
>>Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
>>canadian health care problems
>>This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
>>friends promise.
>>
>
>Oh great, he wants me to absorb his right-wing propaganda.
>
>Try this:
>
>http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.e.../HealthCare/Co
>nsumerReports-Sep92.html.gz#Does%20Canada%20Have%20The%20Answer?
Consumer Reports???
You've GOT to be kidding.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:54:53 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
>In article <2c7qsvgrtldnv0d50g0u57c2j0cadcc7if@4ax.com>,
> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:37:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
>>> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>>>health
>>>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for
>insurance
>>>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>>>
>>>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and Japan,
>>>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover everybody?
>>
>>Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
>>canadian health care problems
>>This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
>>friends promise.
>>
>
>Oh great, he wants me to absorb his right-wing propaganda.
>
>Try this:
>
>http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.e.../HealthCare/Co
>nsumerReports-Sep92.html.gz#Does%20Canada%20Have%20The%20Answer?
Consumer Reports???
You've GOT to be kidding.
--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"
wrote:
>In article <2c7qsvgrtldnv0d50g0u57c2j0cadcc7if@4ax.com>,
> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:37:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
>>> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>>>health
>>>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for
>insurance
>>>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>>>
>>>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and Japan,
>>>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover everybody?
>>
>>Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
>>canadian health care problems
>>This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
>>friends promise.
>>
>
>Oh great, he wants me to absorb his right-wing propaganda.
>
>Try this:
>
>http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.e.../HealthCare/Co
>nsumerReports-Sep92.html.gz#Does%20Canada%20Have%20The%20Answer?
Consumer Reports???
You've GOT to be kidding.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:53:28 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
>>Explain then Lloyd why bus loads of Canadians with life threating health
>>problems are forced to come to the USA for treatment at their own expense.
>>Sure they can get free care in Canada, IF they can wait 6 months to a year
>>for treatment.
>>
>>
>
>Like asking why people travel to Mexico for Christmas trees. It simply does
>not happen.
>
>Read, for example,
>http://www.worldpolicy.org/globalrig...da-health.html
Um, Lloyd...
Remember how you complain when we quote conservative sources?
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wrote:
>>Explain then Lloyd why bus loads of Canadians with life threating health
>>problems are forced to come to the USA for treatment at their own expense.
>>Sure they can get free care in Canada, IF they can wait 6 months to a year
>>for treatment.
>>
>>
>
>Like asking why people travel to Mexico for Christmas trees. It simply does
>not happen.
>
>Read, for example,
>http://www.worldpolicy.org/globalrig...da-health.html
Um, Lloyd...
Remember how you complain when we quote conservative sources?
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:53:28 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
>>Explain then Lloyd why bus loads of Canadians with life threating health
>>problems are forced to come to the USA for treatment at their own expense.
>>Sure they can get free care in Canada, IF they can wait 6 months to a year
>>for treatment.
>>
>>
>
>Like asking why people travel to Mexico for Christmas trees. It simply does
>not happen.
>
>Read, for example,
>http://www.worldpolicy.org/globalrig...da-health.html
Um, Lloyd...
Remember how you complain when we quote conservative sources?
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Bill Funk
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wrote:
>>Explain then Lloyd why bus loads of Canadians with life threating health
>>problems are forced to come to the USA for treatment at their own expense.
>>Sure they can get free care in Canada, IF they can wait 6 months to a year
>>for treatment.
>>
>>
>
>Like asking why people travel to Mexico for Christmas trees. It simply does
>not happen.
>
>Read, for example,
>http://www.worldpolicy.org/globalrig...da-health.html
Um, Lloyd...
Remember how you complain when we quote conservative sources?
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:53:28 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
>>Explain then Lloyd why bus loads of Canadians with life threating health
>>problems are forced to come to the USA for treatment at their own expense.
>>Sure they can get free care in Canada, IF they can wait 6 months to a year
>>for treatment.
>>
>>
>
>Like asking why people travel to Mexico for Christmas trees. It simply does
>not happen.
>
>Read, for example,
>http://www.worldpolicy.org/globalrig...da-health.html
Um, Lloyd...
Remember how you complain when we quote conservative sources?
--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"
wrote:
>>Explain then Lloyd why bus loads of Canadians with life threating health
>>problems are forced to come to the USA for treatment at their own expense.
>>Sure they can get free care in Canada, IF they can wait 6 months to a year
>>for treatment.
>>
>>
>
>Like asking why people travel to Mexico for Christmas trees. It simply does
>not happen.
>
>Read, for example,
>http://www.worldpolicy.org/globalrig...da-health.html
Um, Lloyd...
Remember how you complain when we quote conservative sources?
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