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On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:40:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
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>No, you reject facts that don't fit your dogma. That's creationism.
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>No, you reject facts that don't fit your dogma. That's creationism.
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On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:40:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
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>No, you reject facts that don't fit your dogma. That's creationism.
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On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:40:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
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>No, you reject facts that don't fit your dogma. That's creationism.
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>No, you reject facts that don't fit your dogma. That's creationism.
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On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:37:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
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>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>health
>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for insurance
>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>
>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>
>>
>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and Japan,
>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover everybody?
Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
canadian health care problems
This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
friends promise.
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wrote:
>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>health
>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for insurance
>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>
>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>
>>
>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and Japan,
>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover everybody?
Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
canadian health care problems
This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
friends promise.
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On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:37:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>health
>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for insurance
>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>
>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>
>>
>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and Japan,
>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover everybody?
Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
canadian health care problems
This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
friends promise.
--
Bill Funk
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wrote:
>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>health
>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for insurance
>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>
>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>
>>
>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and Japan,
>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover everybody?
Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
canadian health care problems
This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
friends promise.
--
Bill Funk
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On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:37:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>health
>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for insurance
>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>
>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>
>>
>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and Japan,
>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover everybody?
Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
canadian health care problems
This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
friends promise.
--
Bill Funk
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wrote:
>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>health
>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for insurance
>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>
>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>
>>
>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and Japan,
>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover everybody?
Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
canadian health care problems
This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
friends promise.
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Bill Funk
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On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:43:32 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
>> And yes, the Canada care system with its people fleeing to the US to get
>>needed healthcare would be an improvement in your alternate reality.
>
>Totally false.
Wow, Lloyd, you really are in an ivory tower, aren't you?
Do that Google search I recommended, and learn.
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Bill Funk
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wrote:
>> And yes, the Canada care system with its people fleeing to the US to get
>>needed healthcare would be an improvement in your alternate reality.
>
>Totally false.
Wow, Lloyd, you really are in an ivory tower, aren't you?
Do that Google search I recommended, and learn.
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On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:43:32 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
>> And yes, the Canada care system with its people fleeing to the US to get
>>needed healthcare would be an improvement in your alternate reality.
>
>Totally false.
Wow, Lloyd, you really are in an ivory tower, aren't you?
Do that Google search I recommended, and learn.
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Bill Funk
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wrote:
>> And yes, the Canada care system with its people fleeing to the US to get
>>needed healthcare would be an improvement in your alternate reality.
>
>Totally false.
Wow, Lloyd, you really are in an ivory tower, aren't you?
Do that Google search I recommended, and learn.
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On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:43:32 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
>> And yes, the Canada care system with its people fleeing to the US to get
>>needed healthcare would be an improvement in your alternate reality.
>
>Totally false.
Wow, Lloyd, you really are in an ivory tower, aren't you?
Do that Google search I recommended, and learn.
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Bill Funk
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wrote:
>> And yes, the Canada care system with its people fleeing to the US to get
>>needed healthcare would be an improvement in your alternate reality.
>
>Totally false.
Wow, Lloyd, you really are in an ivory tower, aren't you?
Do that Google search I recommended, and learn.
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On Tue, 02 Dec 03 13:57:22 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
>In article <4tgpsv0qjj3fk9mq5t2goiuibmpnu8k64r@4ax.com>,
> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 05:17:32 GMT, "David J. Allen"
>><dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Reminds me of my experience in a country a few years ago that had "free"
>>>(i.e., rationed) medical care for all. The demand for care outstripped the
>>>supply and the only people who got decent medical care were the people with
>>>money, who could pay for a private doctor. Everyone else had to go wait in
>>>line at the clinic and hope for decent care.
>>
>>Well, Hillary's solution would have fixed that; any doctor caught
>>giving care outside the approved system would be liable to legal
>>prosecution, with penalties including fines, jail time & loss of
>>license.
>
>That's a lie. That was never, ever part of any proposal. The plan was
>similar to Canada's -- a single payer, with anyone being able to purchase
>additional private insurance. What was banned was selling insurance that
>covered the SAME thing the government plan would already cover.
No lie.
It was called "Managed Competition".
Look it up, and learn.
>
>>A true utopia.
>>>
>>>This is the template one could overlay anything. Energy, Healthcare, Food,
>>>etc., etc. Those who support Kyoto are lefties and the farther left you go,
>>>the more strident the support for Kyoto. The "rich" are the ones one need
>>>to be reigned in so the "poor" will have a chance.
>>
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wrote:
>In article <4tgpsv0qjj3fk9mq5t2goiuibmpnu8k64r@4ax.com>,
> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 05:17:32 GMT, "David J. Allen"
>><dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Reminds me of my experience in a country a few years ago that had "free"
>>>(i.e., rationed) medical care for all. The demand for care outstripped the
>>>supply and the only people who got decent medical care were the people with
>>>money, who could pay for a private doctor. Everyone else had to go wait in
>>>line at the clinic and hope for decent care.
>>
>>Well, Hillary's solution would have fixed that; any doctor caught
>>giving care outside the approved system would be liable to legal
>>prosecution, with penalties including fines, jail time & loss of
>>license.
>
>That's a lie. That was never, ever part of any proposal. The plan was
>similar to Canada's -- a single payer, with anyone being able to purchase
>additional private insurance. What was banned was selling insurance that
>covered the SAME thing the government plan would already cover.
No lie.
It was called "Managed Competition".
Look it up, and learn.
>
>>A true utopia.
>>>
>>>This is the template one could overlay anything. Energy, Healthcare, Food,
>>>etc., etc. Those who support Kyoto are lefties and the farther left you go,
>>>the more strident the support for Kyoto. The "rich" are the ones one need
>>>to be reigned in so the "poor" will have a chance.
>>
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