Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 02:23:33 GMT, tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P)
wrote:
>In article <3MSxb.46777$Gj.16411@twister.socal.rr.com>, David J. Allen wrote:
>
>> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
>
>>> China releases less "noise", by far. Which is why most people are
>>> concentrating on the largest releasers of "noise" first.
>
>> The pollution in China is way worse than here. Smog is choking.
>
>Once upon a time a co-worker of mine went to china to support the plant
>there. He returned with pictures. I am looking at the photos and ask,
>'what's the haze over the photos?', thinking it was a photographic
>problem. The response, 'that's just the way it is there'.
>
China is one of the last bastions of steam locomotion and power
generating.
They use charcoal for heating & cooking.
The pollution is far wors ethan in the US.
No wonder Lloyd likes to move manufacturing there: China's communist,
and moving manufacuring there punishes the US. A liberal's dream.
--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"
wrote:
>In article <3MSxb.46777$Gj.16411@twister.socal.rr.com>, David J. Allen wrote:
>
>> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
>
>>> China releases less "noise", by far. Which is why most people are
>>> concentrating on the largest releasers of "noise" first.
>
>> The pollution in China is way worse than here. Smog is choking.
>
>Once upon a time a co-worker of mine went to china to support the plant
>there. He returned with pictures. I am looking at the photos and ask,
>'what's the haze over the photos?', thinking it was a photographic
>problem. The response, 'that's just the way it is there'.
>
China is one of the last bastions of steam locomotion and power
generating.
They use charcoal for heating & cooking.
The pollution is far wors ethan in the US.
No wonder Lloyd likes to move manufacturing there: China's communist,
and moving manufacuring there punishes the US. A liberal's dream.
--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"
#5122
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 02:23:33 GMT, tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P)
wrote:
>In article <3MSxb.46777$Gj.16411@twister.socal.rr.com>, David J. Allen wrote:
>
>> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
>
>>> China releases less "noise", by far. Which is why most people are
>>> concentrating on the largest releasers of "noise" first.
>
>> The pollution in China is way worse than here. Smog is choking.
>
>Once upon a time a co-worker of mine went to china to support the plant
>there. He returned with pictures. I am looking at the photos and ask,
>'what's the haze over the photos?', thinking it was a photographic
>problem. The response, 'that's just the way it is there'.
>
China is one of the last bastions of steam locomotion and power
generating.
They use charcoal for heating & cooking.
The pollution is far wors ethan in the US.
No wonder Lloyd likes to move manufacturing there: China's communist,
and moving manufacuring there punishes the US. A liberal's dream.
--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"
wrote:
>In article <3MSxb.46777$Gj.16411@twister.socal.rr.com>, David J. Allen wrote:
>
>> "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
>
>>> China releases less "noise", by far. Which is why most people are
>>> concentrating on the largest releasers of "noise" first.
>
>> The pollution in China is way worse than here. Smog is choking.
>
>Once upon a time a co-worker of mine went to china to support the plant
>there. He returned with pictures. I am looking at the photos and ask,
>'what's the haze over the photos?', thinking it was a photographic
>problem. The response, 'that's just the way it is there'.
>
China is one of the last bastions of steam locomotion and power
generating.
They use charcoal for heating & cooking.
The pollution is far wors ethan in the US.
No wonder Lloyd likes to move manufacturing there: China's communist,
and moving manufacuring there punishes the US. A liberal's dream.
--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"
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Re: ICE AGE? (was Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?)
If the "Atlantic Conveyor" stops due to the salinity change, then places
like Scotland which are kept warm by it, will experience a lot more ice (we
have the same latitude as Moscow), but I haven't heard anyone claim that
constitutes an ice age.
Dave Milne, Scotland.
"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yDTub.248491$HS4.2192754@attbi_s01...
> In article <bpgqk6$c1v$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>, Robert A. Matern
wrote:
> Oh, but there is the idea that global warming will melt too much ice
> reducing the salinity of oceans, changing the currents, shuting down
> the gulf stream, and resulting in a ICE AGE.
like Scotland which are kept warm by it, will experience a lot more ice (we
have the same latitude as Moscow), but I haven't heard anyone claim that
constitutes an ice age.
Dave Milne, Scotland.
"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yDTub.248491$HS4.2192754@attbi_s01...
> In article <bpgqk6$c1v$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>, Robert A. Matern
wrote:
> Oh, but there is the idea that global warming will melt too much ice
> reducing the salinity of oceans, changing the currents, shuting down
> the gulf stream, and resulting in a ICE AGE.
#5124
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Re: ICE AGE? (was Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?)
If the "Atlantic Conveyor" stops due to the salinity change, then places
like Scotland which are kept warm by it, will experience a lot more ice (we
have the same latitude as Moscow), but I haven't heard anyone claim that
constitutes an ice age.
Dave Milne, Scotland.
"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yDTub.248491$HS4.2192754@attbi_s01...
> In article <bpgqk6$c1v$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>, Robert A. Matern
wrote:
> Oh, but there is the idea that global warming will melt too much ice
> reducing the salinity of oceans, changing the currents, shuting down
> the gulf stream, and resulting in a ICE AGE.
like Scotland which are kept warm by it, will experience a lot more ice (we
have the same latitude as Moscow), but I haven't heard anyone claim that
constitutes an ice age.
Dave Milne, Scotland.
"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yDTub.248491$HS4.2192754@attbi_s01...
> In article <bpgqk6$c1v$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>, Robert A. Matern
wrote:
> Oh, but there is the idea that global warming will melt too much ice
> reducing the salinity of oceans, changing the currents, shuting down
> the gulf stream, and resulting in a ICE AGE.
#5125
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Re: ICE AGE? (was Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?)
If the "Atlantic Conveyor" stops due to the salinity change, then places
like Scotland which are kept warm by it, will experience a lot more ice (we
have the same latitude as Moscow), but I haven't heard anyone claim that
constitutes an ice age.
Dave Milne, Scotland.
"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yDTub.248491$HS4.2192754@attbi_s01...
> In article <bpgqk6$c1v$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>, Robert A. Matern
wrote:
> Oh, but there is the idea that global warming will melt too much ice
> reducing the salinity of oceans, changing the currents, shuting down
> the gulf stream, and resulting in a ICE AGE.
like Scotland which are kept warm by it, will experience a lot more ice (we
have the same latitude as Moscow), but I haven't heard anyone claim that
constitutes an ice age.
Dave Milne, Scotland.
"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yDTub.248491$HS4.2192754@attbi_s01...
> In article <bpgqk6$c1v$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>, Robert A. Matern
wrote:
> Oh, but there is the idea that global warming will melt too much ice
> reducing the salinity of oceans, changing the currents, shuting down
> the gulf stream, and resulting in a ICE AGE.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
> No wonder Lloyd likes to move manufacturing there: China's communist, and
moving manufacuring there punishes the US. A liberal's dream.>
And THERE you have it, the heart of Leftist Lloyd's agenda! Attack the core
of the society and you can cripple it irreparably, make the "big lie" stick.
Meanwhile his comrades in China can do whatever they want, as long as the
society he hates is damaged.
Fortunately people are smart enough in free societies to see through all
this --------.
moving manufacuring there punishes the US. A liberal's dream.>
And THERE you have it, the heart of Leftist Lloyd's agenda! Attack the core
of the society and you can cripple it irreparably, make the "big lie" stick.
Meanwhile his comrades in China can do whatever they want, as long as the
society he hates is damaged.
Fortunately people are smart enough in free societies to see through all
this --------.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
> No wonder Lloyd likes to move manufacturing there: China's communist, and
moving manufacuring there punishes the US. A liberal's dream.>
And THERE you have it, the heart of Leftist Lloyd's agenda! Attack the core
of the society and you can cripple it irreparably, make the "big lie" stick.
Meanwhile his comrades in China can do whatever they want, as long as the
society he hates is damaged.
Fortunately people are smart enough in free societies to see through all
this --------.
moving manufacuring there punishes the US. A liberal's dream.>
And THERE you have it, the heart of Leftist Lloyd's agenda! Attack the core
of the society and you can cripple it irreparably, make the "big lie" stick.
Meanwhile his comrades in China can do whatever they want, as long as the
society he hates is damaged.
Fortunately people are smart enough in free societies to see through all
this --------.
#5128
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
> No wonder Lloyd likes to move manufacturing there: China's communist, and
moving manufacuring there punishes the US. A liberal's dream.>
And THERE you have it, the heart of Leftist Lloyd's agenda! Attack the core
of the society and you can cripple it irreparably, make the "big lie" stick.
Meanwhile his comrades in China can do whatever they want, as long as the
society he hates is damaged.
Fortunately people are smart enough in free societies to see through all
this --------.
moving manufacuring there punishes the US. A liberal's dream.>
And THERE you have it, the heart of Leftist Lloyd's agenda! Attack the core
of the society and you can cripple it irreparably, make the "big lie" stick.
Meanwhile his comrades in China can do whatever they want, as long as the
society he hates is damaged.
Fortunately people are smart enough in free societies to see through all
this --------.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
z wrote:
> But that's what corporations do. Particularly for-profit. What is your
> impression, that people go into climatology research because they
> hunger for power and money, and that corporations plan their actions
> based on what would best improve the lives of the 6 billion humans
> plodding around on the planet?
If you think individuals doing academic research are all sweetness and nice, I think you are naive. Ask yourself this, how
much grant money is flowing to scientist who say everything is OK? What is more likely to generate grant money, a Chicken
Little like performance, or a calm reasoned presentation that says climate is a subject to long term trends that are the
result of many factors which are not well understood?
I'd rather take my chances with global warming rather than turn control over to the wackos who have grabbed onto the global
warming scenario as a way to force the implementation of their ideas of how I should live. If global warming wasn't
available, the wackos would have to create it, or something else like it so they can have an excuse for forcing the
implementation of their ideas.
Ed
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
z wrote:
> But that's what corporations do. Particularly for-profit. What is your
> impression, that people go into climatology research because they
> hunger for power and money, and that corporations plan their actions
> based on what would best improve the lives of the 6 billion humans
> plodding around on the planet?
If you think individuals doing academic research are all sweetness and nice, I think you are naive. Ask yourself this, how
much grant money is flowing to scientist who say everything is OK? What is more likely to generate grant money, a Chicken
Little like performance, or a calm reasoned presentation that says climate is a subject to long term trends that are the
result of many factors which are not well understood?
I'd rather take my chances with global warming rather than turn control over to the wackos who have grabbed onto the global
warming scenario as a way to force the implementation of their ideas of how I should live. If global warming wasn't
available, the wackos would have to create it, or something else like it so they can have an excuse for forcing the
implementation of their ideas.
Ed