Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
#1601
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Called me the --- contingent once. Hurt my feelings. ;-)
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
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> I won't deny we have had a few run-ins in the past, but he hasn't called
me
> an idiot / claimed I haven't attended school / recommended I learn some
> science yet, so no unpleasantness so far !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "FDRanger92" <richmay@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:5sglb.9963$W16.7834@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> : If you had the audacity to disagree with him you sure did.
> :
> : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> : news:dtflb.1657$jG7.15372499@news-text.cableinet.net...
> : > Did I insult you Lloyd ?
> : >
> : > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : >
> : > "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> : > news:bn3fu9$ipg$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> : > : In article <KwXkb.760$qE5.7107783@news-text.cableinet.net>,
> : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> : > : >Godwin's law - proposed addendum:
> : > : >
> : > : >"unfavourable reference to Saddaam Hussein or Bin Laden shall be
> : treated
> : > in
> : > : >the same manner as if it were a reference to Hitler."
> : > :
> : > : Parker's law -- insult me and liberals, don't whine about getting
> : insulted
> : > : back. Stones, glass houses, and all that.
> : > :
> : > : >
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:Duhlb.1862$PC.16555055@news-text.cableinet.net...
> I won't deny we have had a few run-ins in the past, but he hasn't called
me
> an idiot / claimed I haven't attended school / recommended I learn some
> science yet, so no unpleasantness so far !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "FDRanger92" <richmay@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:5sglb.9963$W16.7834@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> : If you had the audacity to disagree with him you sure did.
> :
> : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> : news:dtflb.1657$jG7.15372499@news-text.cableinet.net...
> : > Did I insult you Lloyd ?
> : >
> : > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : >
> : > "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> : > news:bn3fu9$ipg$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> : > : In article <KwXkb.760$qE5.7107783@news-text.cableinet.net>,
> : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> : > : >Godwin's law - proposed addendum:
> : > : >
> : > : >"unfavourable reference to Saddaam Hussein or Bin Laden shall be
> : treated
> : > in
> : > : >the same manner as if it were a reference to Hitler."
> : > :
> : > : Parker's law -- insult me and liberals, don't whine about getting
> : insulted
> : > : back. Stones, glass houses, and all that.
> : > :
> : > : >
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
#1602
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Called me the --- contingent once. Hurt my feelings. ;-)
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:Duhlb.1862$PC.16555055@news-text.cableinet.net...
> I won't deny we have had a few run-ins in the past, but he hasn't called
me
> an idiot / claimed I haven't attended school / recommended I learn some
> science yet, so no unpleasantness so far !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "FDRanger92" <richmay@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:5sglb.9963$W16.7834@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> : If you had the audacity to disagree with him you sure did.
> :
> : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> : news:dtflb.1657$jG7.15372499@news-text.cableinet.net...
> : > Did I insult you Lloyd ?
> : >
> : > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : >
> : > "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> : > news:bn3fu9$ipg$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> : > : In article <KwXkb.760$qE5.7107783@news-text.cableinet.net>,
> : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> : > : >Godwin's law - proposed addendum:
> : > : >
> : > : >"unfavourable reference to Saddaam Hussein or Bin Laden shall be
> : treated
> : > in
> : > : >the same manner as if it were a reference to Hitler."
> : > :
> : > : Parker's law -- insult me and liberals, don't whine about getting
> : insulted
> : > : back. Stones, glass houses, and all that.
> : > :
> : > : >
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:Duhlb.1862$PC.16555055@news-text.cableinet.net...
> I won't deny we have had a few run-ins in the past, but he hasn't called
me
> an idiot / claimed I haven't attended school / recommended I learn some
> science yet, so no unpleasantness so far !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "FDRanger92" <richmay@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:5sglb.9963$W16.7834@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> : If you had the audacity to disagree with him you sure did.
> :
> : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> : news:dtflb.1657$jG7.15372499@news-text.cableinet.net...
> : > Did I insult you Lloyd ?
> : >
> : > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : >
> : > "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> : > news:bn3fu9$ipg$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> : > : In article <KwXkb.760$qE5.7107783@news-text.cableinet.net>,
> : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> : > : >Godwin's law - proposed addendum:
> : > : >
> : > : >"unfavourable reference to Saddaam Hussein or Bin Laden shall be
> : treated
> : > in
> : > : >the same manner as if it were a reference to Hitler."
> : > :
> : > : Parker's law -- insult me and liberals, don't whine about getting
> : insulted
> : > : back. Stones, glass houses, and all that.
> : > :
> : > : >
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
#1603
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Called me the --- contingent once. Hurt my feelings. ;-)
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:Duhlb.1862$PC.16555055@news-text.cableinet.net...
> I won't deny we have had a few run-ins in the past, but he hasn't called
me
> an idiot / claimed I haven't attended school / recommended I learn some
> science yet, so no unpleasantness so far !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "FDRanger92" <richmay@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:5sglb.9963$W16.7834@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> : If you had the audacity to disagree with him you sure did.
> :
> : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> : news:dtflb.1657$jG7.15372499@news-text.cableinet.net...
> : > Did I insult you Lloyd ?
> : >
> : > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : >
> : > "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> : > news:bn3fu9$ipg$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> : > : In article <KwXkb.760$qE5.7107783@news-text.cableinet.net>,
> : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> : > : >Godwin's law - proposed addendum:
> : > : >
> : > : >"unfavourable reference to Saddaam Hussein or Bin Laden shall be
> : treated
> : > in
> : > : >the same manner as if it were a reference to Hitler."
> : > :
> : > : Parker's law -- insult me and liberals, don't whine about getting
> : insulted
> : > : back. Stones, glass houses, and all that.
> : > :
> : > : >
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:Duhlb.1862$PC.16555055@news-text.cableinet.net...
> I won't deny we have had a few run-ins in the past, but he hasn't called
me
> an idiot / claimed I haven't attended school / recommended I learn some
> science yet, so no unpleasantness so far !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "FDRanger92" <richmay@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:5sglb.9963$W16.7834@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> : If you had the audacity to disagree with him you sure did.
> :
> : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> : news:dtflb.1657$jG7.15372499@news-text.cableinet.net...
> : > Did I insult you Lloyd ?
> : >
> : > Dave Milne, Scotland
> : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> : >
> : > "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> : > news:bn3fu9$ipg$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> : > : In article <KwXkb.760$qE5.7107783@news-text.cableinet.net>,
> : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
> : > : >Godwin's law - proposed addendum:
> : > : >
> : > : >"unfavourable reference to Saddaam Hussein or Bin Laden shall be
> : treated
> : > in
> : > : >the same manner as if it were a reference to Hitler."
> : > :
> : > : Parker's law -- insult me and liberals, don't whine about getting
> : insulted
> : > : back. Stones, glass houses, and all that.
> : > :
> : > : >
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
#1604
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
that's pretty impressive, you being a whole contingent !!
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"FDRanger92" <csu13081@nospammail.clayton.edu> wrote in message
news:Rdolb.11119$W16.10510@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
: Called me the --- contingent once. Hurt my feelings. ;-)
:
:
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: news:Duhlb.1862$PC.16555055@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > I won't deny we have had a few run-ins in the past, but he hasn't called
: me
: > an idiot / claimed I haven't attended school / recommended I learn some
: > science yet, so no unpleasantness so far !
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "FDRanger92" <richmay@mindspring.com> wrote in message
: > news:5sglb.9963$W16.7834@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: > : If you had the audacity to disagree with him you sure did.
: > :
: > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > : news:dtflb.1657$jG7.15372499@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > : > Did I insult you Lloyd ?
: > : >
: > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > : >
: > : > "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
: > : > news:bn3fu9$ipg$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
: > : > : In article <KwXkb.760$qE5.7107783@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: > : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: > : > : >Godwin's law - proposed addendum:
: > : > : >
: > : > : >"unfavourable reference to Saddaam Hussein or Bin Laden shall be
: > : treated
: > : > in
: > : > : >the same manner as if it were a reference to Hitler."
: > : > :
: > : > : Parker's law -- insult me and liberals, don't whine about getting
: > : insulted
: > : > : back. Stones, glass houses, and all that.
: > : > :
: > : > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"FDRanger92" <csu13081@nospammail.clayton.edu> wrote in message
news:Rdolb.11119$W16.10510@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
: Called me the --- contingent once. Hurt my feelings. ;-)
:
:
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: news:Duhlb.1862$PC.16555055@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > I won't deny we have had a few run-ins in the past, but he hasn't called
: me
: > an idiot / claimed I haven't attended school / recommended I learn some
: > science yet, so no unpleasantness so far !
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "FDRanger92" <richmay@mindspring.com> wrote in message
: > news:5sglb.9963$W16.7834@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: > : If you had the audacity to disagree with him you sure did.
: > :
: > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > : news:dtflb.1657$jG7.15372499@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > : > Did I insult you Lloyd ?
: > : >
: > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > : >
: > : > "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
: > : > news:bn3fu9$ipg$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
: > : > : In article <KwXkb.760$qE5.7107783@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: > : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: > : > : >Godwin's law - proposed addendum:
: > : > : >
: > : > : >"unfavourable reference to Saddaam Hussein or Bin Laden shall be
: > : treated
: > : > in
: > : > : >the same manner as if it were a reference to Hitler."
: > : > :
: > : > : Parker's law -- insult me and liberals, don't whine about getting
: > : insulted
: > : > : back. Stones, glass houses, and all that.
: > : > :
: > : > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
#1605
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
that's pretty impressive, you being a whole contingent !!
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"FDRanger92" <csu13081@nospammail.clayton.edu> wrote in message
news:Rdolb.11119$W16.10510@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
: Called me the --- contingent once. Hurt my feelings. ;-)
:
:
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: news:Duhlb.1862$PC.16555055@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > I won't deny we have had a few run-ins in the past, but he hasn't called
: me
: > an idiot / claimed I haven't attended school / recommended I learn some
: > science yet, so no unpleasantness so far !
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "FDRanger92" <richmay@mindspring.com> wrote in message
: > news:5sglb.9963$W16.7834@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: > : If you had the audacity to disagree with him you sure did.
: > :
: > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > : news:dtflb.1657$jG7.15372499@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > : > Did I insult you Lloyd ?
: > : >
: > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > : >
: > : > "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
: > : > news:bn3fu9$ipg$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
: > : > : In article <KwXkb.760$qE5.7107783@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: > : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: > : > : >Godwin's law - proposed addendum:
: > : > : >
: > : > : >"unfavourable reference to Saddaam Hussein or Bin Laden shall be
: > : treated
: > : > in
: > : > : >the same manner as if it were a reference to Hitler."
: > : > :
: > : > : Parker's law -- insult me and liberals, don't whine about getting
: > : insulted
: > : > : back. Stones, glass houses, and all that.
: > : > :
: > : > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"FDRanger92" <csu13081@nospammail.clayton.edu> wrote in message
news:Rdolb.11119$W16.10510@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
: Called me the --- contingent once. Hurt my feelings. ;-)
:
:
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: news:Duhlb.1862$PC.16555055@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > I won't deny we have had a few run-ins in the past, but he hasn't called
: me
: > an idiot / claimed I haven't attended school / recommended I learn some
: > science yet, so no unpleasantness so far !
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "FDRanger92" <richmay@mindspring.com> wrote in message
: > news:5sglb.9963$W16.7834@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: > : If you had the audacity to disagree with him you sure did.
: > :
: > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > : news:dtflb.1657$jG7.15372499@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > : > Did I insult you Lloyd ?
: > : >
: > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > : >
: > : > "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
: > : > news:bn3fu9$ipg$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
: > : > : In article <KwXkb.760$qE5.7107783@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: > : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: > : > : >Godwin's law - proposed addendum:
: > : > : >
: > : > : >"unfavourable reference to Saddaam Hussein or Bin Laden shall be
: > : treated
: > : > in
: > : > : >the same manner as if it were a reference to Hitler."
: > : > :
: > : > : Parker's law -- insult me and liberals, don't whine about getting
: > : insulted
: > : > : back. Stones, glass houses, and all that.
: > : > :
: > : > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
#1606
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
that's pretty impressive, you being a whole contingent !!
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"FDRanger92" <csu13081@nospammail.clayton.edu> wrote in message
news:Rdolb.11119$W16.10510@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
: Called me the --- contingent once. Hurt my feelings. ;-)
:
:
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: news:Duhlb.1862$PC.16555055@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > I won't deny we have had a few run-ins in the past, but he hasn't called
: me
: > an idiot / claimed I haven't attended school / recommended I learn some
: > science yet, so no unpleasantness so far !
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "FDRanger92" <richmay@mindspring.com> wrote in message
: > news:5sglb.9963$W16.7834@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: > : If you had the audacity to disagree with him you sure did.
: > :
: > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > : news:dtflb.1657$jG7.15372499@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > : > Did I insult you Lloyd ?
: > : >
: > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > : >
: > : > "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
: > : > news:bn3fu9$ipg$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
: > : > : In article <KwXkb.760$qE5.7107783@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: > : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: > : > : >Godwin's law - proposed addendum:
: > : > : >
: > : > : >"unfavourable reference to Saddaam Hussein or Bin Laden shall be
: > : treated
: > : > in
: > : > : >the same manner as if it were a reference to Hitler."
: > : > :
: > : > : Parker's law -- insult me and liberals, don't whine about getting
: > : insulted
: > : > : back. Stones, glass houses, and all that.
: > : > :
: > : > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"FDRanger92" <csu13081@nospammail.clayton.edu> wrote in message
news:Rdolb.11119$W16.10510@newsread2.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
: Called me the --- contingent once. Hurt my feelings. ;-)
:
:
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: news:Duhlb.1862$PC.16555055@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > I won't deny we have had a few run-ins in the past, but he hasn't called
: me
: > an idiot / claimed I haven't attended school / recommended I learn some
: > science yet, so no unpleasantness so far !
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "FDRanger92" <richmay@mindspring.com> wrote in message
: > news:5sglb.9963$W16.7834@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: > : If you had the audacity to disagree with him you sure did.
: > :
: > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > : news:dtflb.1657$jG7.15372499@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > : > Did I insult you Lloyd ?
: > : >
: > : > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > : > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > : >
: > : > "Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
: > : > news:bn3fu9$ipg$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
: > : > : In article <KwXkb.760$qE5.7107783@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: > : > : "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: > : > : >Godwin's law - proposed addendum:
: > : > : >
: > : > : >"unfavourable reference to Saddaam Hussein or Bin Laden shall be
: > : treated
: > : > in
: > : > : >the same manner as if it were a reference to Hitler."
: > : > :
: > : > : Parker's law -- insult me and liberals, don't whine about getting
: > : insulted
: > : > : back. Stones, glass houses, and all that.
: > : > :
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#1607
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Aardwolf" <se1aard1@itis.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> > "Bill Funk" <bfunk33@qwest.net> wrote in message
> > news:j125pvsmhb5lf23c37195irqubf---rh03@4ax.com...
> > >
> > > But Billy Bob has to do all that, too, and the flea-driver *does* gat
> > > the break you want him to have, simply because he doesn't use (and pay
> > > for) the expendables that Billy Bob is paying for.
> >
> > That is a point. However, it's not that strong a point and here is why.
> > For
> > starters, when we are talking expendables, the only ones that really
matter
> > here are fuel, as vehicle fuel dwarfs the expendable consumption of
every
> > other expendable on the vehicle. So let's be honest and say gas/fuel.
> >
> > In the world, (not just the US) just about every non-mideast country is
a
> > net importer of oil. There are a few notable exceptions of course, but
> > they don't set the world oil price, OPEC does.
> >
> > So here is the problem from the US's side. Every barrel of oil
> > consumed that is over the US max production is subject to
> > artifical price control by OPEC, which is accomplished by artifical
> > limiting of the oil supply. Simply put, that price control is bad for
> > the US's economy. The upshot is that even though Billy Bob might have
> > to pay more for fuel, the fact that he is consuming more fuel and
> > thus helping to increase the oil demand past what the US can supply
> > makes prices rise for ALL fuel purchasers.
>
> And more drilling ain't gonna be enough to help once India and China (at a
> billion plus inhabitants a piece) become modern, G7-style industrial
nations.
> Which they're just about to do.
>
Shhh - don't give the SUV owners nightmares. :-)
Using oil as a motor vehicle fuel is totally unsupportable in the long run.
What is
ultimately going to happen is the price of gas will be driven so high that
it will
eclipse the cost of going electric, and that will be the end of the internal
combusion
engine in passenger cars. Alcohol is not an answer, there's not enough
biomass
production in the country to produce the fuel needed. The choices are going
to
be electric generation plants powered by coal, or nuclear, both of which the
greens hate, powering the majority of passenger cars, probably with a few
hardy souls running off natural gas.
But of course you can't tell the SUV owners this, they think that we are all
going
to be burning hydrogen in our cars. Just wait until they find out that no
city of
any appreciable population density is going to permit a gas station that
contains
10,000 gallons of compressed hydrogen stored in tanks anywhere in the city
limits,
where an exploson will remove about 10 blocks from the tax rolls.
Ted
#1608
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Aardwolf" <se1aard1@itis.com> wrote in message
news:3F95EEA3.7F5DA87F@itis.com...
>
>
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> > "Bill Funk" <bfunk33@qwest.net> wrote in message
> > news:j125pvsmhb5lf23c37195irqubf---rh03@4ax.com...
> > >
> > > But Billy Bob has to do all that, too, and the flea-driver *does* gat
> > > the break you want him to have, simply because he doesn't use (and pay
> > > for) the expendables that Billy Bob is paying for.
> >
> > That is a point. However, it's not that strong a point and here is why.
> > For
> > starters, when we are talking expendables, the only ones that really
matter
> > here are fuel, as vehicle fuel dwarfs the expendable consumption of
every
> > other expendable on the vehicle. So let's be honest and say gas/fuel.
> >
> > In the world, (not just the US) just about every non-mideast country is
a
> > net importer of oil. There are a few notable exceptions of course, but
> > they don't set the world oil price, OPEC does.
> >
> > So here is the problem from the US's side. Every barrel of oil
> > consumed that is over the US max production is subject to
> > artifical price control by OPEC, which is accomplished by artifical
> > limiting of the oil supply. Simply put, that price control is bad for
> > the US's economy. The upshot is that even though Billy Bob might have
> > to pay more for fuel, the fact that he is consuming more fuel and
> > thus helping to increase the oil demand past what the US can supply
> > makes prices rise for ALL fuel purchasers.
>
> And more drilling ain't gonna be enough to help once India and China (at a
> billion plus inhabitants a piece) become modern, G7-style industrial
nations.
> Which they're just about to do.
>
Shhh - don't give the SUV owners nightmares. :-)
Using oil as a motor vehicle fuel is totally unsupportable in the long run.
What is
ultimately going to happen is the price of gas will be driven so high that
it will
eclipse the cost of going electric, and that will be the end of the internal
combusion
engine in passenger cars. Alcohol is not an answer, there's not enough
biomass
production in the country to produce the fuel needed. The choices are going
to
be electric generation plants powered by coal, or nuclear, both of which the
greens hate, powering the majority of passenger cars, probably with a few
hardy souls running off natural gas.
But of course you can't tell the SUV owners this, they think that we are all
going
to be burning hydrogen in our cars. Just wait until they find out that no
city of
any appreciable population density is going to permit a gas station that
contains
10,000 gallons of compressed hydrogen stored in tanks anywhere in the city
limits,
where an exploson will remove about 10 blocks from the tax rolls.
Ted
#1609
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Aardwolf" <se1aard1@itis.com> wrote in message
news:3F95EEA3.7F5DA87F@itis.com...
>
>
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> > "Bill Funk" <bfunk33@qwest.net> wrote in message
> > news:j125pvsmhb5lf23c37195irqubf---rh03@4ax.com...
> > >
> > > But Billy Bob has to do all that, too, and the flea-driver *does* gat
> > > the break you want him to have, simply because he doesn't use (and pay
> > > for) the expendables that Billy Bob is paying for.
> >
> > That is a point. However, it's not that strong a point and here is why.
> > For
> > starters, when we are talking expendables, the only ones that really
matter
> > here are fuel, as vehicle fuel dwarfs the expendable consumption of
every
> > other expendable on the vehicle. So let's be honest and say gas/fuel.
> >
> > In the world, (not just the US) just about every non-mideast country is
a
> > net importer of oil. There are a few notable exceptions of course, but
> > they don't set the world oil price, OPEC does.
> >
> > So here is the problem from the US's side. Every barrel of oil
> > consumed that is over the US max production is subject to
> > artifical price control by OPEC, which is accomplished by artifical
> > limiting of the oil supply. Simply put, that price control is bad for
> > the US's economy. The upshot is that even though Billy Bob might have
> > to pay more for fuel, the fact that he is consuming more fuel and
> > thus helping to increase the oil demand past what the US can supply
> > makes prices rise for ALL fuel purchasers.
>
> And more drilling ain't gonna be enough to help once India and China (at a
> billion plus inhabitants a piece) become modern, G7-style industrial
nations.
> Which they're just about to do.
>
Shhh - don't give the SUV owners nightmares. :-)
Using oil as a motor vehicle fuel is totally unsupportable in the long run.
What is
ultimately going to happen is the price of gas will be driven so high that
it will
eclipse the cost of going electric, and that will be the end of the internal
combusion
engine in passenger cars. Alcohol is not an answer, there's not enough
biomass
production in the country to produce the fuel needed. The choices are going
to
be electric generation plants powered by coal, or nuclear, both of which the
greens hate, powering the majority of passenger cars, probably with a few
hardy souls running off natural gas.
But of course you can't tell the SUV owners this, they think that we are all
going
to be burning hydrogen in our cars. Just wait until they find out that no
city of
any appreciable population density is going to permit a gas station that
contains
10,000 gallons of compressed hydrogen stored in tanks anywhere in the city
limits,
where an exploson will remove about 10 blocks from the tax rolls.
Ted
#1610
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Bill Putney" <bputney@kinez.net> wrote in message
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>
> Gee - imagine that. Conservatives opposing the raising of taxes. How
> unusual! Have you ever heard of such a thing!? To quote Mel Brooks:
> "Wooof!".
>
Your the one that is bitching about allowing morons on the road
because their children will be punished if they can't drive. Yet your
now opposing one of the few mechanisms that we have to keep the
morons off the road, which is making vehicle ownership more
expensive? I guess you don't realize that most of the morons
in the country don't happen to be that wealthy. (save the morons
in the White House and Congress, of course)
Ted